You missed one: The portrayal of the Spanish Flu. Even though Cora was much older than Lavinia, she lived through the plague while Lavinia did not. The Spanish Flu did routinely take young adults who were perfectly healthy to their deathbeds in as little as 36 hours. The age group was disproportionately affected. The quickness of the onset of Lavinia’s symptoms and subsequent death were heartbreakingly accurate.
Cora was American, and considering having Mrs. Levinson as a mother, She likely had more routine and modern medical care in her childhood than Lavinia did. Cora's immune system was better prepared for the fight.
I had to write an essay on period dramas for film studies and chose Downton. I then proceeded on 'forcing' myself to watch the first 3 episodes so I can write the essay... A day later and I binged the first 3 series. Hooked. Probably the best period drama ever! (mad men comes a close second)
10. The Titanic 9. World War I 8. views on technology 7. fashion 6. royal scandals 5. downstairs romances 4. class struggles 3. women's rights 2. british marrying rich americans 1. the entail
As a lifelong fan of Victorian and Early 20th Century architecture, I have always wondered what the lives of the Owners and occupants of these magnificent Estates and Castles were really like. Then came 'Downton Abbey'... I cannot begin to offer up enough Thank You wishes! God Bless Madam Maggie Smith! - you ROCK the world of Downton Abbey!
You might add that American heiresses married for a title - it was a two way deal. also, not ALL properties were entailed. Many didn't do it. The older ones were, but newer aristocrats whose fortunes and titles were based on the onset of the Industrial revolution and agriculture, didn't entail.
There are more stories. Romance between Lady Rose and the black singer Jack Ross, Barrow’s homosexuality, the decline of British aristocracy after WW1, and the approach of jazz.
If you were ever to make a part 2, it would be a good idea to also mention Thomas being homosexual and the struggle he has to go through because of that!
@@cellpat7392 I love the fact the British shows don't shy away from showing romance between older couples. Downton was full of them: Isabelle and her Lord, Carson and Mrs. Hughes, Mrs. Patmore and Daisy's FIL...
Omg.I didn't realize this was the heir that gave up the throne for Wallis Simpson. Outside of putting the first world war in 9 episodes,DA was always historically accurate and one member of the family or staff was always affected,eg. Mrs. Patmore's nephew Archie.I was so glad Robert solved that so delicately for her.
Not only that, they *listened* to the historical advisor. A lot of period shows have and had historical advisors, mostly just to say they have one, while listening to them has been sadly rare.
Correct- the coming Great Depression, WW II, and finally the post WW II Socialist period would spell the death knell of the large country houses, which exist mainly today as both tourist attractions and venues for weddings, parties, etc.
My favorite of all period dramas! Partly because of close depiction of truth in acting, costumes, stories, etc! It even is an amazing show! Super excited for the movie! I hope they finish it soon! 😍😍😍
Yesterday, I just finished rewatching 6 seasons, 52 episodes and 1 film of Downton Abbey. I miss the whole cast already. Easily one of my top 5 tv series of all time
Exactly 1 year ago end of 2023, (it’s Jan 2024 now) while hospitalized I started streaming my first season of Downton Abbey - because their cable was horrible. Literally, I have not stopped bingeing on it. It’s made the rest of television unbearably pathetic to watch! Out of this entire year, I’ve probably just watched 2 or 3 other shows! DA has been such peace and love to recuperate by. Right now it’s on in the background with Lord Grantham announcing the war has begun at their summer picnic. (Party). I love at the end of Season 6 when Bertie and Edith married, I can get to start it all back to Season 1 and with Ep 2 it’s so wonderful seeing Matthew again! ❤ Obviously, I’m in serious need of help!! 😂😂😂
Idk if anyone noticed this but the Turkish character "Kemal Pamuk" is given the surname "Pamuk". However, surnames weren't used in Turkey till mid-thirties. Yes, Pamuk is a real Turkish surname but no Turk would be using surnames in 1912.
I loved that show... very historical correct as you have pointed out... except... one funny error I found multiple times.. people were smoking filtered cigs... hahahaha... that was a post WWII invention....very minor... I'm sure smoking Lucky's was a worse option.
Women's voting rights. Hrm-hm! At 7:46 Ms Mojo presumes to tell us about voting rights "in the Commonwealth" based upon those in Canada. Let's put it straight! Women in New Zealand had voting rights in 1893. Women in Australia could vote for Federal Parliament in 1902. By 1912, the UK was well behind. They certainly did not lead the way in countries of the British Empire.
Best PBS series ever written...could have watched it forever! I do own the complete series plus the movie. It's definitely the kind of worthwhile entertainment people need to be watching...not the junk that's out there with the "fake name" entertainment.
there was a tv show about how servants stopped being such a good job a girl who broke her leg was a maid, she stood with her leg on a stool to do her job, then was sacked for being LAZY
I love the first season the best. I watch it over and over. It’s amazing how that stupid entail is still in effect. How many historic homes might still be in families if women had run the finances?
One item I have always questioned is Thomas’ cigarettes, which always appear too long and with a modern white filter. I feel sure that cigarettes then were shorter and had - if any - a cork filter until the 50s or 60s.
I already know everything you mentioned here. Since Downton Abbey is a historical drama series, it has to be accurate otherwise it wouldn't be so successful and interesting to watch... ;) Ps. I love history. Sometimes the british politicians and aristocrats are very sexist and to old fashioned. I mean what would be wrong, if woman could inherit the title, the house and everything? Nothing would be wrong !! It's just the pigheadedness of the man and the politicians ! :(
Very good video in the most part. One error, however, was the reason for many of the old families to be in financial trouble. Between the First and Second Boer Wars and The Great War a large number of members of these aristocratic families perished. Remember that as a social class, Noblesse Oblige was very much a real and practiced ideal. The English Aristocracy lost a higher percentage of the men in the Boer Wars as well as both World Wars, often times without any opportunity for estate planning, and the death duties were ruinous. Some families lost 3 generations of heirs in sequence in the 4 years of the Great War alone. Those great Country Estates are also very expensive to operate. In today's money, Highclere Castle Estate costs somewhat in the region of £150,000 simply to maintain and operate. That amount is after tax. The blight was so bad it inspired Evelyn Waugh to write Brideshead Revisited to highlight the loss of the great estates.
@@SummerRain368 Ditto here. I was aware of some of the historic effects of the wars, but not to this detailed extend. And what a delight to see someone educated and capable to explain something like this so well.
@@junewilson1629 This is why I have to keep rewatching the entire series! (Any excuse !😅) As I get more educated about the situations, it does make me understand their desperation.
@@SummerRain368 yuph. No excuse needed for any of that though is there? But yes, I am most certainly guilty of watching the reruns via Amazon Prime. And not just for the historic parts.......
@@junewilson1629 BUT … at the very least, 25 times .. entire seasons. Peacock streaming ,. Endlessly. Exactly one year from when I found it. LOL. It’s been a marvelous recuperation therapy … keeping me happy, calm and loving. The music is ethereal!I I just can’t watch anything else since DA. Truly! It’s ruined fluff, mindless TV for me. I need a DA support group. 😂
.........they should have been dirtier? Uh, no. Laundry and washerwomen and all that existed. People weren't wandering around in filth-encrusted clothing, bathing once a year. Good gods.
The Entail was a device in thev series that was used to create a storyline drama, in reality Lady Mary would be expected to marry within her class of a Baron, Viscount, Earl, Marquess or Duke and she would then have moved into her husband's estate; thus having Mary be an hier to both Downton Abbey and that of her future husband's estate wolld have proved both over-whelming, impractical, and a robbery of her other siblings. Of course WW I killed off most of the aristrocrats of Great Britain and the changing influence of international world trade, especially agriculture, made these pocket estates uneconomic against imports from more generous landed countries!
Lady Mary would have never inherited the title nor Downton Abbey itself. The issue really was could she have her mother's money. Which is what the entail prevented. Robert's father knew that if for whatever reason Cora's money was taken out of the estate the estate would fail. Which was the whole point of the entail.
My parents would like this a lot. Me? I'd rather watch Curious George, thank you. (If you don't get the reference, my parents watch Downtown Abbey on PBS whenever it's on and that I prefer PBS Kids over PBS.)
Agreed. It's all very historically accurate for the time. The only licenses they really took were with the characters themselves. And even that I enjoyed that. I like the fact that it was true to its time even though the characters themselves were not real people. I especially love how you see the characters grow and develop so much over the six seasons because during that time people did change a lot. Households like this did go from having tons and tons of servants to significantly less. Both because people were living more simply and because it was more expensive to pay service
Sorry but Downton Abbey got some details wrong about the Titanic. It was never advertised as "unsinkable" before the sinking; that myth grew up afterwards. Someone reading of the tragedy when it happened would not have had the reaction Lord Grantham has in the clip shown in this video.
Jeffrey Wilheim I thought some newspaperman said that even God himself couldn’t sink that ship. It was one of the reasons why it was said to be an act of God.
In 1911 issues of the Irish News and Shipbuilder printed that “The Captain may, by simply moving an electric switch, instantly close the doors throughout and make the vessel practically unsinkable.” referring, of course, to the Titanic.
Jeffrey Wilheim The builders never said it were unsinkable, but the press did report this even at the time because of the advanced electrically operated watertight doors, double keel, and superior bulkhead layout to most other ships. It was most certainly talked about in unaffiliated media that it was "virtually unsinkable" because of these factors, but Thomas Andrews and anyone else involved in the design never remarked anything of the sort, that much is true
@@glen7318 Because they were of German descent. They even changed their name to Windsor during or after WW1 to show they were on the side of their subjects although all their ancestors were German
Yes. Until the 19th century when a woman married her entire estate would legally become her husband’s property. I imagine the entail was originally devised to prevent family estates from leaving the family.
Not exactly. The entail links the inheritance of the estate to the title bearer, whoever that may be. An estate and a title are two legally distinct concepts; the entail fuses them together. Who can inherit the title is determined in the original "letters patent" when the title was created. That was usually to the eldest son, but there are a few titles that can pass to a female under whatever circumstances are specified (either the last male to bear the title has no sons or the entire male line is extinct). So from a practical point of view, yes women are excluded from the inheritance due to the entail linking inheritance to the title... but so too are second and subsequent sons, barring death of the eldest.
The entail was something added on to the marriage contract between Robert and Cora by Roberts late father. It prevented Cora's money from being separated from the estate for any reason. The reason for that was that he knew that if Cora's money was separated from the estate the estate would fail. Now this would not have been a problem had they had a boy. Cora and Robert Robert's son would inherit Cora's money and Roberts title as well as the estate. Since they didn't have a son that's when the issue arose. Because Roberts heir was entitled to everything Robert had but not necessarily everything Cora had. If we're not for the entail coras money could have been taken out of the estate, divided by the daughters and the estate would have failed
Eh I don't mind entail law not being destroyed. Trying to introduce equality to a system that purports inequality seems illogical. In fact, the downton entail is only one of many. Typically, the rules of succession for each title is determined upon its creation. In Scotland, many old titles can in fact be inherited in the female line but only when that mechanism was specified when the title was created. In many cases, the estates aren't actually entailed upon the heir to the title but by convention would go to them anyway. A good example is the Scottish title, Earl of Loudoun. the family ran out of male heirs at multiple points so the title passed through the female line and is currently held by an Australian man. Some people say that inheritance shouldn't exist at all, so i don't really care if uber rich daughters don't get the estates and titles anyway. It's not anyone's right to inherit, but if it must go to someone, then why not preserve tradition... that's the only argument in favour of the entire peerage system and landed estates anyway
A good argument and all these titles and estates no longer are aligned with great wealth or income! Bee if male or female succession, the title always goes to the eldest child and not necessarilty the most deserving or intelligent hier! Today the sign of power is creating one's own business out of nothing but sheer determination and hard work, not inheritance.
The show does not accurately represent the working conditions in most houses. It was a really bad job. Virtually no time off, the pay was low, you had to keep quiet most of the time, and you were treated like a booger by the family. In fact, they ignored you when you did your job well, and chewed you out when you didn't.
And the fact in most households if a woman became romantically involved with anyone (even sometimes outside the household) they could be fired. Oh and gotta love that you could be called in the night tow work if say someone was sick or wanted water etc. To be at the beck and call of the family at nearly all times would be exciting and anxiety creating.
Downton Abbey got a telephone in 1914. Ridiculous. On Little House on the Prairie TV series, poor farmer Almanzo and Laura had a telephone in their house in 1885 Minnesota
As a history major, I can tell you that is accurate. At the start of WWI most even rural areas in the USA had telephones, while in Europe only the major cities had telephones.
I would be nice if you could actually get the name right in the title - Downtown, not Downton :-( Also...a lot of BBC period dramas are well researched (usually).
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You missed one: The portrayal of the Spanish Flu. Even though Cora was much older than Lavinia, she lived through the plague while Lavinia did not. The Spanish Flu did routinely take young adults who were perfectly healthy to their deathbeds in as little as 36 hours. The age group was disproportionately affected. The quickness of the onset of Lavinia’s symptoms and subsequent death were heartbreakingly accurate.
Cora was American, and considering having Mrs. Levinson as a mother, She likely had more routine and modern medical care in her childhood than Lavinia did. Cora's immune system was better prepared for the fight.
I had to write an essay on period dramas for film studies and chose Downton. I then proceeded on 'forcing' myself to watch the first 3 episodes so I can write the essay... A day later and I binged the first 3 series. Hooked. Probably the best period drama ever! (mad men comes a close second)
Andreas A agreed!!!
Andreas A best ever!!
Agreed! Yes Mad men is great too but ooh Downton is legendary.
I had to write one on William S. Porter, you got off easy.
Whatever you do, do not...I repeat...DO NOT watch Pride & Prejudice 1995. There will be no turning back! 🤣
I watched this show 13 times. yes all 6 seasons! it's one of the best shows ever made
and its happening now.........
Me too
You can also watch "Upstairs Downstairs", which has many similarities to "Downton Abbey".
I've watched it 7 times xD
I have watched the entire series at least that many times. I've memorized most of the dialogue.
10. The Titanic
9. World War I
8. views on technology
7. fashion
6. royal scandals
5. downstairs romances
4. class struggles
3. women's rights
2. british marrying rich americans
1. the entail
As a lifelong fan of Victorian and Early 20th Century architecture, I have always wondered what the lives of the Owners and occupants of these magnificent Estates and Castles were really like.
Then came 'Downton Abbey'...
I cannot begin to offer up enough Thank You wishes!
God Bless Madam Maggie Smith! - you ROCK the world of Downton Abbey!
My favourite period drama!! And thank goodness they said 'Lord Grantham' and not 'Lord Robert'. It's amazing how many videos get it wrong 😂
You might add that American heiresses married for a title - it was a two way deal. also, not ALL properties were entailed. Many didn't do it. The older ones were, but newer aristocrats whose fortunes and titles were based on the onset of the Industrial revolution and agriculture, didn't entail.
There are more stories. Romance between Lady Rose and the black singer Jack Ross, Barrow’s homosexuality, the decline of British aristocracy after WW1, and the approach of jazz.
If you were ever to make a part 2, it would be a good idea to also mention Thomas being homosexual and the struggle he has to go through because of that!
ChristinCe there appears to be a follow up with him in the movie.
@@cellpat7392 I love the fact the British shows don't shy away from showing romance between older couples. Downton was full of them: Isabelle and her Lord, Carson and Mrs. Hughes, Mrs. Patmore and Daisy's FIL...
ALL PRAISE Maggie Smith.
No- all praise to Julian Fellows and the other writers who penned these clever dialogue and plot lines!
She is wonderful as Lady Wendy in Hook! So yes, absolutely; a great praisal of her, indeed.
Anyone else catch the quick clip from the Titanic movie durring #2?
Easily one of my all time favorite shows, I love Downton Abbey!
Omg.I didn't realize this was the heir that gave up the throne for Wallis Simpson.
Outside of putting the first world war in 9 episodes,DA was always historically accurate and one member of the family or staff was always affected,eg. Mrs. Patmore's nephew Archie.I was so glad Robert solved that so delicately for her.
They had a historical advisor working with the show, that helped. lol
Not only that, they *listened* to the historical advisor. A lot of period shows have and had historical advisors, mostly just to say they have one, while listening to them has been sadly rare.
yes----this presumptive snippet video is rather condescending compared to the ENORMOUS amount of research and work put into this series.
💖 Great show! I only wish they would have done more seasons.
The Frugal Life - with Mercedes yes I wish I could see them into the 1930s or more at least
Correct- the coming Great Depression, WW II, and finally the post WW II Socialist period would spell the death knell of the large country houses, which exist mainly today as both tourist attractions and venues for weddings, parties, etc.
Movie comes out next September
I guess the Carnavans couldn't take it much more than 3 yrs
My favorite of all period dramas! Partly because of close depiction of truth in acting, costumes, stories, etc! It even is an amazing show! Super excited for the movie! I hope they finish it soon! 😍😍😍
Yesterday, I just finished rewatching 6 seasons, 52 episodes and 1 film of Downton Abbey. I miss the whole cast already.
Easily one of my top 5 tv series of all time
Exactly 1 year ago end of 2023, (it’s Jan 2024 now) while hospitalized I started streaming my first season of Downton Abbey - because their cable was horrible. Literally, I have not stopped bingeing on it. It’s made the rest of television unbearably pathetic to watch! Out of this entire year, I’ve probably just watched 2 or 3 other shows! DA has been such peace and love to recuperate by. Right now it’s on in the background with Lord Grantham announcing the war has begun at their summer picnic. (Party).
I love at the end of Season 6 when Bertie and Edith married, I can get to start it all back to Season 1 and with Ep 2 it’s so wonderful seeing Matthew again! ❤
Obviously, I’m in serious need of help!! 😂😂😂
As a HUGE Downton Abbey fan and history buff, this list is spot on!
This show is the best tbh
gwtw99 Yep
The producers also got the kitchen, food and meal services korrect.. and the medicine and state of hygiene and fear of disease
Idk if anyone noticed this but the Turkish character "Kemal Pamuk" is given the surname "Pamuk". However, surnames weren't used in Turkey till mid-thirties. Yes, Pamuk is a real Turkish surname but no Turk would be using surnames in 1912.
Love Downton Abbey! Thank you for sharing and your picks/comments!
Favourite show❤️❤️
Z Same!! :)
I loved that show... very historical correct as you have pointed out... except... one funny error I found multiple times.. people were smoking filtered cigs... hahahaha... that was a post WWII invention....very minor... I'm sure smoking Lucky's was a worse option.
Top 10 Downton Abbey Episodes please! I know they don’t have names but it could be a great list!
Women's voting rights.
Hrm-hm! At 7:46 Ms Mojo presumes to tell us about voting rights "in the Commonwealth" based upon those in Canada.
Let's put it straight!
Women in New Zealand had voting rights in 1893.
Women in Australia could vote for Federal Parliament in 1902.
By 1912, the UK was well behind. They certainly did not lead the way in countries of the British Empire.
Maybe you should express your opinion more respectful
Ryan,
Are you indicating that I am being disrespectful to Miss Mojo for getting some basic historical facts extremely wrong?
Thank you for giving us the facts. I was irritated by Ms Mojos presentation, too.
I miss this show so so much
I was hooked the first season both this show andMad Men. I thought thank you shows for adults.
Mary was always my favorite Crawley! She’s so savage
Edith was my first choice and then Anna.
Mrs Hughes was mine. Strong when needed to be and compassionate towards everyone when called for.
The best show ever👌🏻
Branson is just
“Wait what? It still exists?”
"Oh..."
I LOVE THIS SHOW!!!
I wonder how Robert would have dealt with the 1936 abdication
That would be an awesome movie subplot
I’d be more interested in seeing how Carson reacted lol.
It was one of the best accidents in British history, had Edward been king WW 2 could have been very different.
Quite the series. I was so sad to see it end. The two follow-up movies were most enjoyable.
Best PBS series ever written...could have watched it forever! I do own the complete series plus the movie. It's definitely the kind of worthwhile entertainment people need to be watching...not the junk that's out there with the "fake name" entertainment.
I loved the episode when Mr. C almost got whacked by the hitmen ordered by the dowager countess in season 1.
We're now on series 6 with just the finale left.We have to see the film afterwards!Brilliant!!!!
You forgot about poor Ethel when you were talking about illegitimate children. Her life was ruined.
there was a tv show about how servants stopped being such a good job a girl who broke her leg was a maid, she stood with her leg on a stool to do her job, then was sacked for being LAZY
FANTASTIC Job Ms.Mojo. 😁
The only person that knows the script of Downton Abbey far Better than I, might be Julian Fellows.
Liked before watching
Ms. Mojo loves Gossip Girl and Downton Abbey doesn't she?
What music was used for this video? It sounds nice.
THE ENTAIL MUST BE PRESERVED PEOPLE!!! Otherwise we wouldn’t have Downton Abbey stories.
I have 2 screen shots of a TV aerial and a security movement detector from DA.
I just got into this series because charlie cox in the first episode,I loved the whole series 💖 thanks to Charlie Cox 💝💖
I love the first season the best. I watch it over and over. It’s amazing how that stupid entail is still in effect. How many historic homes might still be in families if women had run the finances?
One item I have always questioned is Thomas’ cigarettes, which always appear too long and with a modern white filter. I feel sure that cigarettes then were shorter and had - if any - a cork filter until the 50s or 60s.
I mean they strived to make this show historically accurate with the wardrobe etc.
The entire Downton Abbey story centred on the succession. The need for a male heir.
I already know everything you mentioned here.
Since Downton Abbey is a historical drama series, it has to be accurate otherwise it wouldn't be so successful and interesting to watch... ;)
Ps. I love history.
Sometimes the british politicians and aristocrats are very sexist and to old fashioned.
I mean what would be wrong, if woman could inherit the title, the house and everything?
Nothing would be wrong !!
It's just the pigheadedness of the man and the politicians ! :(
Very good video in the most part. One error, however, was the reason for many of the old families to be in financial trouble. Between the First and Second Boer Wars and The Great War a large number of members of these aristocratic families perished. Remember that as a social class, Noblesse Oblige was very much a real and practiced ideal. The English Aristocracy lost a higher percentage of the men in the Boer Wars as well as both World Wars, often times without any opportunity for estate planning, and the death duties were ruinous. Some families lost 3 generations of heirs in sequence in the 4 years of the Great War alone. Those great Country Estates are also very expensive to operate. In today's money, Highclere Castle Estate costs somewhat in the region of £150,000 simply to maintain and operate. That amount is after tax. The blight was so bad it inspired Evelyn Waugh to write Brideshead Revisited to highlight the loss of the great estates.
Thank you so much. Now I more thoroughly understand what happened!
@@SummerRain368
Ditto here. I was aware of some of the historic effects of the wars, but not to this detailed extend. And what a delight to see someone educated and capable to explain something like this so well.
@@junewilson1629 This is why I have to keep rewatching the entire series! (Any excuse !😅) As I get more educated about the situations, it does make me understand their desperation.
@@SummerRain368 yuph. No excuse needed for any of that though is there? But yes, I am most certainly guilty of watching the reruns via Amazon Prime. And not just for the historic parts.......
@@junewilson1629 BUT … at the very least, 25 times .. entire seasons. Peacock streaming ,. Endlessly. Exactly one year from when I found it. LOL. It’s been a marvelous recuperation therapy … keeping me happy, calm and loving. The music is ethereal!I I just can’t watch anything else since DA. Truly! It’s ruined fluff, mindless TV for me. I need a DA support group. 😂
This show is great
.........they should have been dirtier? Uh, no. Laundry and washerwomen and all that existed. People weren't wandering around in filth-encrusted clothing, bathing once a year. Good gods.
The movie was perfect!
"Grapefruit spoon, jam spoon.."
"You damn fool, that's Lady Mary's Coke spoon!"
Did people do coke in 1912?
You could legally buy it over the counter at the chemists until 1918 along with laudenum they were used like paracetamol and aspirin today
Princess Buttercup where is a DeLorean or a TARDIS when one's needed? Or the telephone booth from Bill and Ted, I'm not picky!
Coca-Cola didn't even become cocaine-free until 1929. It was commonly used in medicines.
The Man From Krypton
Pretty sure that scene is from series 4, set in 1922 or there abouts but lol
@@lygophilia4127 um, Coke still isn't cocaine free it just got trace amounts in it. In fact they are only people allow to import the leaves in the USA
yess i Do agree with your picks, and that the Endtail still excist, the Dowager Countess of Grantham is always Right !!
Highly derivative of Upstairs , Downstairs and spectacularly inferior in every way to the 1970's drama .
My friends love this show❤️❤️
Hello msmojo
Lady Sybil!!!!!!
;;p
Wow
I would have been more shocked if they missed any one of these facts in the series.
They slipped a scene from Titanic in there?
Marita Marbut What do you mean
@@maxeyre2024 yes they did.
Marita Marbut it's how the very first episode begins, with the death of the heir to the title and estate in the sinking.
@@spencerwilton5831 She means that in the video, at 9:27 there's a short scene from the movie, "Titanic", with Kathy Bates.
"Women's rights are still being debated today"
That hurt
The Entail was a device in thev series that was used to create a storyline drama, in reality Lady Mary would be expected to marry within her class of a Baron, Viscount, Earl, Marquess or Duke and she would then have moved into her husband's estate; thus having Mary be an hier to both Downton Abbey and that of her future husband's estate wolld have proved both over-whelming, impractical, and a robbery of her other siblings. Of course WW I killed off most of the aristrocrats of Great Britain and the changing influence of international world trade, especially agriculture, made these pocket estates uneconomic against imports from more generous landed countries!
Lady Mary would have never inherited the title nor Downton Abbey itself. The issue really was could she have her mother's money. Which is what the entail prevented. Robert's father knew that if for whatever reason Cora's money was taken out of the estate the estate would fail. Which was the whole point of the entail.
I'm a middle child so my favorite was Edith.
The clothes!!!!!
Downton got everything right
My parents would like this a lot. Me? I'd rather watch Curious George, thank you.
(If you don't get the reference, my parents watch Downtown Abbey on PBS whenever it's on and that I prefer PBS Kids over PBS.)
Ironman 3 pays homage to Downton Abbey
There’s not much they got wrong IMO.
Agreed. It's all very historically accurate for the time. The only licenses they really took were with the characters themselves. And even that I enjoyed that. I like the fact that it was true to its time even though the characters themselves were not real people. I especially love how you see the characters grow and develop so much over the six seasons because during that time people did change a lot. Households like this did go from having tons and tons of servants to significantly less. Both because people were living more simply and because it was more expensive to pay service
Wow
Which women's rights are still being debated in the West today?
Sorry but Downton Abbey got some details wrong about the Titanic. It was never advertised as "unsinkable" before the sinking; that myth grew up afterwards. Someone reading of the tragedy when it happened would not have had the reaction Lord Grantham has in the clip shown in this video.
Jeffrey Wilheim it was said to be “virtually unsinkable.” You are correct in that it was never said to be literally unsinkable.
Jeffrey Wilheim I thought some newspaperman said that even God himself couldn’t sink that ship. It was one of the reasons why it was said to be an act of God.
In 1911 issues of the Irish News and Shipbuilder printed that “The Captain may, by simply moving an electric switch, instantly close the doors throughout and make the vessel practically unsinkable.” referring, of course, to the Titanic.
Jeffrey Wilheim
The builders never said it were unsinkable, but the press did report this even at the time because of the advanced electrically operated watertight doors, double keel, and superior bulkhead layout to most other ships.
It was most certainly talked about in unaffiliated media that it was "virtually unsinkable" because of these factors, but Thomas Andrews and anyone else involved in the design never remarked anything of the sort, that much is true
I lost total Interest after 3rd season
A minor addition. The german accent pf the royal family
why would they have German accents?
@@glen7318 Because they were of German descent. They even changed their name to Windsor during or after WW1 to show they were on the side of their subjects although all their ancestors were German
I'll bet Robert & Mr. Carson thinks their poo doesn't stink.
So one of the facts they got right was the date of the Titanic? Not very demanding
The British parliament didn't pass the bill.....I guess it really was 1913.
Hopefully they will keep trying until it gets passed.
The entail excludes women from an inheritance?
Yes. Until the 19th century when a woman married her entire estate would legally become her husband’s property. I imagine the entail was originally devised to prevent family estates from leaving the family.
Not exactly. The entail links the inheritance of the estate to the title bearer, whoever that may be. An estate and a title are two legally distinct concepts; the entail fuses them together. Who can inherit the title is determined in the original "letters patent" when the title was created. That was usually to the eldest son, but there are a few titles that can pass to a female under whatever circumstances are specified (either the last male to bear the title has no sons or the entire male line is extinct). So from a practical point of view, yes women are excluded from the inheritance due to the entail linking inheritance to the title... but so too are second and subsequent sons, barring death of the eldest.
The entail was something added on to the marriage contract between Robert and Cora by Roberts late father. It prevented Cora's money from being separated from the estate for any reason. The reason for that was that he knew that if Cora's money was separated from the estate the estate would fail. Now this would not have been a problem had they had a boy. Cora and Robert Robert's son would inherit Cora's money and Roberts title as well as the estate. Since they didn't have a son that's when the issue arose. Because Roberts heir was entitled to everything Robert had but not necessarily everything Cora had. If we're not for the entail coras money could have been taken out of the estate, divided by the daughters and the estate would have failed
Diminishing power of Europe.... ha, sure
Eh I don't mind entail law not being destroyed. Trying to introduce equality to a system that purports inequality seems illogical.
In fact, the downton entail is only one of many. Typically, the rules of succession for each title is determined upon its creation. In Scotland, many old titles can in fact be inherited in the female line but only when that mechanism was specified when the title was created. In many cases, the estates aren't actually entailed upon the heir to the title but by convention would go to them anyway.
A good example is the Scottish title, Earl of Loudoun. the family ran out of male heirs at multiple points so the title passed through the female line and is currently held by an Australian man.
Some people say that inheritance shouldn't exist at all, so i don't really care if uber rich daughters don't get the estates and titles anyway. It's not anyone's right to inherit, but if it must go to someone, then why not preserve tradition... that's the only argument in favour of the entire peerage system and landed estates anyway
A good argument and all these titles and estates no longer are aligned with great wealth or income! Bee if male or female succession, the title always goes to the eldest child and not necessarilty the most deserving or intelligent hier! Today the sign of power is creating one's own business out of nothing but sheer determination and hard work, not inheritance.
@@edmundcharles5278 there are very few titles in england that can be inherited by a female heir
If I was a Brit I would be so pissed that the entail exists today.
N Peace it only applies to titles, not money, land etc. You can't really have a female Duke, Lord or Earl, so I don't really see why it's an issue.
@@spencerwilton5831 that makes sense.
loved the video, hated the sleepy joe commercial. please keep politics out of your channel!
Because the people at Watchmojo have ever picked up a history book? This show wouldn’t be smart if someone threw a book at the producer’s head.
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I would work in Downton in an instant. You have a job, food and a place to live. What's not to like?
The show does not accurately represent the working conditions in most houses. It was a really bad job. Virtually no time off, the pay was low, you had to keep quiet most of the time, and you were treated like a booger by the family. In fact, they ignored you when you did your job well, and chewed you out when you didn't.
And the fact in most households if a woman became romantically involved with anyone (even sometimes outside the household) they could be fired. Oh and gotta love that you could be called in the night tow work if say someone was sick or wanted water etc. To be at the beck and call of the family at nearly all times would be exciting and anxiety creating.
Downton Abbey got a telephone in 1914. Ridiculous. On Little House on the Prairie TV series, poor farmer Almanzo and Laura had a telephone in their house in 1885 Minnesota
As a history major, I can tell you that is accurate. At the start of WWI most even rural areas in the USA had telephones, while in Europe only the major cities had telephones.
I think the research done for DA is superior to LHOTP.
I would be nice if you could actually get the name right in the title - Downtown, not Downton :-(
Also...a lot of BBC period dramas are well researched (usually).
Paul D it’s Downton Abbey. idk if you were making a joke
What are you saying? It’s DOWNTON Abbey. Geez, too many people make that mistake.
LOL idiot
You are the one that got the name wrong, dear sir.
Far too liberal, I thought as a factual channel you must stay unbiased. Of course socialists and liberals are often rather hypocritical
DowntoWn Abbey
Nope, it is Downton Abbey.