@CIA - Central Intelligence Agency There is a comic where he does that Rob covers on this channel. Dormamu tries to use magic to control Galactus and Galactus consumes him, and pretty much wipes out the universe.
@CIA - Central Intelligence Agency he was amped from consuming magical energy, which he learned he was able to do. No real reason he couldnt just start absorbing Dormamu's when he is attacked. Dormamu's powers just feed Galactus anyway, its like trying to extinguish a fire with gasoline.
Can we all just take a moment and recognize the sheer amount of power house opponents Dr. Strange has faced over the years. Let's give that man a thumbs up!👍🏼
Strange didn't actually fight Cyttorak from what I remember, he just reasoned with him. That's one interesting aspect to this "evil" outer god like being, is that he has shown himself to be able to be reasoned with on several occasions.
Dormammu was relatively recently defeated easily by Galactus after Galactus realized he could eat magic. Galactus had previously devoured and gained the full power of many immensely powerful Demon Lords and other Magical Gods.
Doctor Proteus I always felt like that was an outlier of a story, based on what Dormammu has been shown capable of. Like galactus can defeat Dormammu but Eternity has a high diff fight? That story is hella cool but never really sat right with me
Honestly it's hard to gauge that fight because there's no telling how much power Galactus gained from consuming magical worlds. The power cosmic could have easily been ramped into overdrive, multiplied, or compounded by any number of magical energies
Yeah I noticed that too but that story doesn't make much sense to me. Because what about the Classic version of Dormammu ? It was said he could swallow the entire universe and he put up a tough battle for even the likes of eternity that could've destroyed them both . Idk
You forgot what happended with Juggernaut and Oblivion..Oblivion himself was impressed by Cyttoraks magic..so to let Juggernaut leave he asked for a piece of it..plus Cyttorak was shown both god and demon over the years..he is more of a mystical abstract..even the Vishanti fear him.
Hmmm probably gonna give it to Cyttorak he's stated to be more powerful than Galactus and though Dormammu lost to Galactus it was an amped version so we don't know how he would fair against a regular Galactus but this would be an interesting battle
@@blueeyeswhitedragon9569 No such thing as a "fully fed Galactus" his hunger is infinite hence why he was begging the Beyonder to end his endless hunger, And No he was amped big time there isn't any "much amped" he absorbed an entire planet worth of magical power from Dormammu and Mephisto
@@cheeseburgerfreddy6350 there actually his it's called lifebranger and he no longer has his hunger but I didnt think I had to say that I thought people would just know I ment him and I'm saying a non starving gulactus as well but it is not true that theres no such thing as a fully feed gulactus cuz he has had machines in the past that give him nutritions and even got full in squirrel girl .What I mean in fully fed is him not at a weakened state because of his hunger
@@cheeseburgerfreddy6350 so hes full he dosnt need to consume energy kinda the definition of being full he didnt need to eat so he would by that logic full and it's the closest we got in life bringer and I still stand on that squirrel girl fight
Dormmau might win a "most times seen and defeated" contest, but how would he defeat someone who HE calls upon? Would he use Cyttorak's bands against him? That is like a sorcery trap, "whosoever calls upon the power of Cyttorak, shall forever become bound and become the thrall of the Crimson lord". PEACE family.
@Lord Jay we should not suppose when giving an answer, Dor, has been weak enough to have to call for "help" during battle, we have not seen Cyt do so. alright, a boxer is in the ring, in a poor position, and calls to his ringside trainers for help, then the trainer gets on the phone and calls a buddy for help, then who is greater? you decide. PEACE family.
or he's just borrowing a more convenient source of power, seems Cyttorak doesn't care who uses his power so long as they can do the spell, maybe Dormammyu's just flexing on Strange showing him his spells are nothing special, or maybe he just felt like playing around a bit, or a million other things, saying that just because Dormammu uses Cyttorak's power he is weaker than Cyttorak is a serious leap of logic.
@@ahkilleuskosmos6836 Cyt states that he gains from the destruction caused by using his power, why would Dorm, if he were showing Dr Strange how insignificant his powers were, use the SAME power source? wouldn't it seem more "stunt worthy" for the master of the dark dimension to counter the crimson bands by show of his OWN power? for whatever reason marvel stories have promoted Dorm more than Cyt, however only one of the two is a foundational power source for the many neutral magic users in the marvel universe. in fact Loki with the norn stones, may be more powerful, or equal to dormmamu in the earth realm. judge them by their, and their servants exploits......Cyttorak wins. PEACE family.
@@germanpenn with a weak argument. just because Dorm has more stories doesn't make him stronger, just busier, besides he loses each and every time, while Cyttorak merely sits in his realm looking and plotting. which is stronger AC or DC? you better find out before you take your phone from the charger. PEACE family.
@master10ize I don't think he can. I believe if one has the knowledge of the spell and the mystical power they can invoke abilities or power from supernatural beings. However, the Invoked might be able to add stipulations, conditions and, if the Invoker loses mental control, gain control over the Invoker to exact a hefty toll. That's how it's seemed to me.
[The funniest thing I've ever seen happened was when Doctor Strange was fighting dormammu and he invoked your dormammu name in a spell] --- That is the magical equivalent of "Why you hittin' yourself?"😂🤣😂
Cytorrak is likely more powerful and more pragmatic. He is a builder and destroyer. When he wanted to be worshiped, he did not conquer, he created a race to worship him. He has done plenty of destruction directly and through his agents. But, some magic users actually have summoned his agents to build.
I typically don't watch fan fiction or versus vids, but the eye candy got me bitin on this one! Olympus versus Asgard next! Why stop at individuals. Keep it up, man! You da man! Crimson Bands gonna seal the deal & Dormommu's fate as well
When a character “invokes” another characters name, that DOESN’T mean that said character is more powerful, it just means that THAT character has a “specialty” that they are know for. Cyttorak is known for his Crimson bands, supposedly no one makes better “bands” than he does, so they call on him to use his bands. Just like they call on the “Winds of Wattoomb”, to use his powerful winds, if you need to blow something over. Or the “rings of Raggadorr” to circle of surround something. A huge part that you missed is if Cyttorak is nearly omnipotent, then the other 7 members of the Octessence are omnipotent as well, why else would they have a contest to see who is more powerful? They all must be nearly equal.
I've been trying to find out more about the other Octessence for along time now. This is the most info I've ever been able to gather, thank you. Do you make videos yourself? If so, I'll stop by.
@@erictheguapo It's about time. There's literally no Arab characters in Marvel. Joke, but I suppose you're not satisfied with the millions of the white LEADING characters.
@@alissa6 Nope, hijacking characters that are already established and changing them into something completely unrecognizable. Birds of Prey being a great example. And also things like the New Warriors.
I love Cyttorak, mostly cuz he just wants ppl to acknowledge his power. He could dominate and conquer, but Eh, he's cool. The type of character that could just destroy everything, but doesn't cuz its too easy. Fuckin A
Nice! I’ve been asking for this match up on multiple channels for a while. It should be a best of three match, one in each of their respective realms and one on earth for the tie breaker 🙌👏
Hey Rob, if you’re looking for more stories to cover since new comics aren’t coming out I think you could cover Ghost Rider: Trail of Tears. Now if you’ve already covered that I didn’t know since you have a massive backlog of videos. But if you haven’t it’s a really good story.
And don’t forget, in this same Dr Strange series, earlier Satannish and Cyttorak battled, it wasn’t shown, but they fought. And Dormammu created Satannish, so if his creation could battle Cyttorak, Dormammu should be able to beat him.
@@Simondadrummer I mean that the fight between dormamu and cytorak depended on the location of fight just like trigon vs dormamu would. If dormamu went to azerath he would prolly lose, but anywhere else I bet he'd win
I’m really glad that we got a different intro with this one. It’s not that the normal intro sound byte is bad, but after hearing it hundreds of times, I wanted to claw my eardrums out.
Mark Keller really? I wonder if we’re talking about the same intro then because I don’t remember there being anything copyright-able from the one I’m thinking of. That’s interesting though.
Juggernaut vs thanos Silver surfer vs Thor Shuma gorath vs dr doom - prep and no prep Adam warlock vs marquis of death Marquis of death vs the beyonder Death vs protege marquis of death vs protege chaos king vs marquis of death
Michael Pryor that was my first thought also. But I was thinking, what if cyttorak gave juggernaut more of his power while he was fighting thanos. Truth be told, we usually see juggernaut at his weakest potential in most cases. If cytorrak gave him more power, out smarting juggs before he gets beat would be thanos only hope.
Michael Pryor definitely... Juggernaut doesn’t get his just dues. Without a doubt Thanos would outsmart juggs. I just hate to think that it would be that simple for thanos.
This is just my opinion on who would win (don't take it personally): Thanos Silver surfer and thor are pretty even Shuma gorath Marquis of death The beyonders Protege Protege Chaos King and Marquis of Death are pretty even
That comic with Spyte and ths Juggernaut vs Despayre was AWESOME! Theres a great shot of Marko just standing as a smoldering skeleton and hes SUPER PISSED!!! 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
You expect him to make content at a fast rate for free bud? Hell yeah he’s pushing it on you just like everybody pushes on him to make more videos and videos they want to see.
Dormammu has more feats and one side is seen being comparable to Odin to then manipulating Eternity etc, however then we also have Cyttorak who is a an Elder God who is a tier above the highest Skyfayher like Odin; so it depends on what’s more important, concrete feats vs Marvel Universe implied and power portrayal.
@@GodShadowdeath yeah.. Okay.. You're forgetting Gorr grew stronger through slaying gods.. He kills Nekron and since this all theoretical. I mean have you got a mind that works?
I have a suggestion. I've asked all of my friends who read DC and NO ONE has an answer. What are lantern rings made of? I've seen them shattered and multiplied. I read mostly Marvel and my best conclusion is the emotion they come from. But why are they all rings and not a different ornament for each part of the spectrum?
Wait wait…just 5seconds into the actually VS video and I already notice there’s a difference in RUclips Robs voice and Patreon Rob 😂 I like RUclips Rob
Do we have info on the other seven entities that were part of the 8 with Cyttorak? Or their artifacts? That would be pretty cuke and if they were never brought up again that's some wasted potential right there.
Rob. I love you're vids! Ive been thinking about a really awesome idea for a video you could do. Spawn vs the doomslayer. Who would win? How would the match go? I think you're the only person that could figure it out. Id love it if you did this. Keep up all the awesome vids bro!
Okay look, I was HUGE into Marvel growing up as a kid in the 70s. Now sure I read tons of the comics and do not remember it being this intricate, just bonkers! LOL I mean, honestly I did more drawing than reading because me and my friends really enjoyed making our own comics and drawing them. One of my friends was absolutely INCREDIBLE at drawing and sadly I lost track of him so many years back, but I did find out that he became an illustrator for Marvel, just never found out anything more. He seems to have kept himself very hidden, anyway LOVE Marvel and DC comics! Brings back so many good memories 🙂😆😎👍💖
You know more about comics than me. But I’ve never been a fan of determining these bouts with feats when one (or both) party has very few showings. If they both had lots of feats, fine. But when one doesn’t have many, I don’t think it should be considered as being as important. I am glad you did this video though. I want to see more of obscure characters like Cyttorak.
The decision to stop digital comics from releasing is that it'll severely screw comic stores more than they already are. If they release the next six issues of "Whatever Comics" on digital and I read them, what incentive to I have to buy them in person or even go back to the store if I'm now used to the digital format? Adversely, what if I want all six issues in print for collection purposes? Does the comic store have to shell out funds to stock old issues as though they were new just in case? Better to keep everything on the same page and give everyone a breather for a bit.
I would lean that Cyt is more powerful BECAUSE he doesnt have the feats. I dont remember outright but I thought it was other gods who sealed him away not just sorcerers and people. The fact he isnt used is probably more telling to his power because actually having him enter a dimension is certain doom. As far as I remember Dormamu is also not as powerful outside his own dimension and routinely just banished by being tricked by strange. I would say cyt would mush him pretty easily even not in his own dimension. you should do some crossover vs vids like Dormamu Vs Myxilplik
It's not dumb that they are suspending digital releases, it's amazingly smart and kind; they are showing solidarity with their physical distribution partners who a fair amount of are small local shops that are suffering huge financial losses at the moment and will need that influx of people buying books there once this is over. I honestly surprised that they suspended digital, but that is honestly a blessing for many smaller business (now only if Wizards of the Coast would stop fucking over local game shops, sense they are far more reliant on them for continued business)
Litterly i was asking about this video few days ago after i watched one of your old videos about dr doom what if he became sorcerer supreme,where you mentioned dormamu.
Because - as Stan Lee put it - Galactus is potentially stronger than everything except "The One Above All". Galactus' purpose - to eventually absorb everything and cause its destruction and rebirth. Galactus has the ability to absorb anything that exists but wishes not to do so as to not upset the universal balance for as long as possible. Galactus purposefully starves himself to near death to prolong the existence of everything.
The reason why they are not releasing digital only is obvious . Digital comic sales are low. People still enjoy going to comic book stores. It's not rocket science
Can you please do a versus or explained videos with Zarathos, the spirit of vengeance inside Johnny blaze. Would love to see Zarathos’s true power and how it scales without The ghost rider!
No new comics? Just recap back issues. This what I am doing for my local mom and pop store... so they can survive this pandemic. I actually implore everyone to support your local comic store & buy back issues. There are SO many stories out there. This can be a time to catch up or start a new journey. Like Saga (hint-hint ROB!) or any lesser known books. I am currently getting all of the Buffy the vampire slayer & anything Johnathan Hickman books now.
Rob, I think I speak for alot of us saying this. We're just glad your healthy and safe. As for content as long as it is cool it and you enjoy yourself will do.👍
i know you have decided on video content, but i think it would be cool to talk about the creation and evolution of characters over time in conjunction with the writers handling the content
nah I've always Loved Cyttorak and imo He would win as we know he is powerful but never never his FULL power as for Dormammu he has to worry about the Mindless Ones invading his realm while Cyttorak doesn't have to worry about that crap.
Now, here's a question that just ran through my mind the first time while watching: Dr. Strange draws on the power of Cyttorak when invoking the Crimson Bands. Why does Cyttorak ALLOW Dr. Strange and other sorcerers to draw away his power to perform some minor task or spell he probably couldn't care less about?
Because it's for nefarious purposes. Cytorak has limitless power he is an elder God and thrives on destruction. Any time his name is invoked he will lend a portion for destruction. But Rob is wrong on this cytorak wins hands down he is from a higher plain and is truly immortal. That's why the pantheon never fought they are all immortal and there could never be a winner hence the avatar aspect.
Not only Dr. Strange, but Scarlet Witch and a few other magic users as well. As long as said user causes some destruction, Cyttorak doesn't care and will lend a hand sort of speak.
@@LegendaryDarkKnight602 the thing is I havent seen feats of cosmic hulk(galactus herald hulk) since at the end of the comic he only becomes galactus herald. But i believe the strongest hulk (stronger than WBH and Cosmic hulk) is Immortal cosmic hulk and he would definitely throw any juggenaut round like a ragdoll. Unfortunately tho this hulk is evil as he is basically possesed by the one below all
Dormamu: "Finally, I am free! I am pure energy and you can't stop me!"
Galactus: ...breathing intensifies
@CIA - Central Intelligence Agency There is a comic where he does that Rob covers on this channel. Dormamu tries to use magic to control Galactus and Galactus consumes him, and pretty much wipes out the universe.
@CIA - Central Intelligence Agency he was amped from consuming magical energy, which he learned he was able to do. No real reason he couldnt just start absorbing Dormamu's when he is attacked. Dormamu's powers just feed Galactus anyway, its like trying to extinguish a fire with gasoline.
@@daisyxcutter you actually can but it's not easy at all.
@@daisyxcutter exactly, galactus has defeated him before and taken his powers and became his herald
Dr. Strange: Dormamu I've come to bargain!
Dormamu: God dammit Strange NOT NOW!
Can we all just take a moment and recognize the sheer amount of power house opponents Dr. Strange has faced over the years. Let's give that man a thumbs up!👍🏼
Whatever it takes. Hahaha.
Word, that's true. From Loki, to Dormamu, to Eternity. And the list goes on.
Strange didn't actually fight Cyttorak from what I remember, he just reasoned with him. That's one interesting aspect to this "evil" outer god like being, is that he has shown himself to be able to be reasoned with on several occasions.
Who has been the most powerful opponent that he has faced?
@@matthewschwartz6607 dormammu
Either way, both of them win in the Social Distancing level.
Level: In your own dimension
Isn't there also a guy without a mustache?
@@willn8664 Yes i saw them both on one video comment section
Watch there be a third one
My name jeff
Doormamoo actually uses Cytroks name in spells. Thats kinda insane.
"I have SOLVED that problem. _laughs_ "
...D-did Rob bust some people's kneecaps? Crack some skulls?
I don't even know what was being referred to when he was talking about that
Pizzeria_ Mayhem I assume it involved getting around the patreon somehow to see his content. Idk i'm just some guy.
@@Argonak1 Top 10 Unsolved Mysteries
@@pizzeria_mayhem8736 he is referring to -8:35
@@evrettej i know that, but I dont know what exactly happened
World breaker hulk with the crimson gem of cyttorak VS. full Odin force Mangog who wins? (Just for fun😂)
Rayvon Jones I’ll have to go with mangog.
This would just make the universe implode
That depends on how much of Cyttoraks power hulk will get through the gen, if he gets max power hulks gonna win
Mangog
Mangog
Its scary and cool that we actually don't know a lot about Cyttorak. That we may never know how powerful he really is.
well we know that he is stronger than Pheonix Force its a mismatch
@@lil_oppahe said you better not think you can challenge him with 1/5th the Phoenix force. Wl
Dormammu was relatively recently defeated easily by Galactus after Galactus realized he could eat magic. Galactus had previously devoured and gained the full power of many immensely powerful Demon Lords and other Magical Gods.
i thought he blasted mephisto to death?
Doctor Proteus I always felt like that was an outlier of a story, based on what Dormammu has been shown capable of. Like galactus can defeat Dormammu but Eternity has a high diff fight? That story is hella cool but never really sat right with me
Honestly it's hard to gauge that fight because there's no telling how much power Galactus gained from consuming magical worlds. The power cosmic could have easily been ramped into overdrive, multiplied, or compounded by any number of magical energies
Yeah I noticed that too but that story doesn't make much sense to me. Because what about the Classic version of Dormammu ? It was said he could swallow the entire universe and he put up a tough battle for even the likes of eternity that could've destroyed them both . Idk
Follow the brick road But Eternity doesn’t eat magic.
You forgot what happended with Juggernaut and Oblivion..Oblivion himself was impressed by Cyttoraks magic..so to let Juggernaut leave he asked for a piece of it..plus Cyttorak was shown both god and demon over the years..he is more of a mystical abstract..even the Vishanti fear him.
Hmmm probably gonna give it to Cyttorak he's stated to be more powerful than Galactus and though Dormammu lost to Galactus it was an amped version so we don't know how he would fair against a regular Galactus but this would be an interesting battle
It was implied he can eat magic and would win regardless and he wasnt that much amped if we have a fully feed gulactus he would still smack dormamu
@@blueeyeswhitedragon9569 No such thing as a "fully fed Galactus" his hunger is infinite hence why he was begging the Beyonder to end his endless hunger, And No he was amped big time there isn't any "much amped" he absorbed an entire planet worth of magical power from Dormammu and Mephisto
@@cheeseburgerfreddy6350 there actually his it's called lifebranger and he no longer has his hunger but I didnt think I had to say that I thought people would just know I ment him and I'm saying a non starving gulactus as well but it is not true that theres no such thing as a fully feed gulactus cuz he has had machines in the past that give him nutritions and even got full in squirrel girl .What I mean in fully fed is him not at a weakened state because of his hunger
@@blueeyeswhitedragon9569 Life bringer Galactus is not a "fully fed Galactus" He no longer feeds and he creates life not feed upon it Lols
@@cheeseburgerfreddy6350 so hes full he dosnt need to consume energy kinda the definition of being full he didnt need to eat so he would by that logic full and it's the closest we got in life bringer and I still stand on that squirrel girl fight
Dormmau might win a "most times seen and defeated" contest, but how would he defeat someone who HE calls upon? Would he use Cyttorak's bands against him? That is like a sorcery trap, "whosoever calls upon the power of Cyttorak, shall forever become bound and become the thrall of the Crimson lord". PEACE family.
the video already covers that
@Lord Jay we should not suppose when giving an answer, Dor, has been weak enough to have to call for "help" during battle, we have not seen Cyt do so. alright, a boxer is in the ring, in a poor position, and calls to his ringside trainers for help, then the trainer gets on the phone and calls a buddy for help, then who is greater? you decide. PEACE family.
or he's just borrowing a more convenient source of power, seems Cyttorak doesn't care who uses his power so long as they can do the spell, maybe Dormammyu's just flexing on Strange showing him his spells are nothing special, or maybe he just felt like playing around a bit, or a million other things, saying that just because Dormammu uses Cyttorak's power he is weaker than Cyttorak is a serious leap of logic.
@@ahkilleuskosmos6836 Cyt states that he gains from the destruction caused by using his power, why would Dorm, if he were showing Dr Strange how insignificant his powers were, use the SAME power source? wouldn't it seem more "stunt worthy" for the master of the dark dimension to counter the crimson bands by show of his OWN power? for whatever reason marvel stories have promoted Dorm more than Cyt, however only one of the two is a foundational power source for the many neutral magic users in the marvel universe. in fact Loki with the norn stones, may be more powerful, or equal to dormmamu in the earth realm. judge them by their, and their servants exploits......Cyttorak wins. PEACE family.
@@germanpenn with a weak argument. just because Dorm has more stories doesn't make him stronger, just busier, besides he loses each and every time, while Cyttorak merely sits in his realm looking and plotting. which is stronger AC or DC? you better find out before you take your phone from the charger. PEACE family.
5:20 Does any of the other entities ever have an Avatar representing them?
Imagine if the living Tribunal had an avatar. That being would probably use cyttorak as a melee weapon to beat on dormamu with
Not currently marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Exemplars_(Earth-616)
I think so
marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Exemplars_members
Zarathos, and Spectre maybe?
Man they should go more into detail about the exemplars
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Beyond Omega Level: Resurrection Man
I don’t care what they say “Comics are Essential”
The funniest thing I've ever seen happened was when Doctor Strange was fighting dormammu and he invoked your dormammu name in a spell
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@@germanpenn legit was funny
@master10ize I don't think he can. I believe if one has the knowledge of the spell and the mystical power they can invoke abilities or power from supernatural beings.
However, the Invoked might be able to add stipulations, conditions and, if the Invoker loses mental control, gain control over the Invoker to exact a hefty toll.
That's how it's seemed to me.
@@danielseelye6005 yeah you know how salty that would make someone
[The funniest thing I've ever seen happened was when Doctor Strange was fighting dormammu and he invoked your dormammu name in a spell]
--- That is the magical equivalent of "Why you hittin' yourself?"😂🤣😂
Cytorrak is likely more powerful and more pragmatic. He is a builder and destroyer. When he wanted to be worshiped, he did not conquer, he created a race to worship him. He has done plenty of destruction directly and through his agents. But, some magic users actually have summoned his agents to build.
I typically don't watch fan fiction or versus vids, but the eye candy got me bitin on this one! Olympus versus Asgard next! Why stop at individuals. Keep it up, man! You da man! Crimson Bands gonna seal the deal & Dormommu's fate as well
I went into this fight thinking that Dormamu would win, but you convinced me that Cyttorak would actually win.
When a character “invokes” another characters name, that DOESN’T mean that said character is more powerful, it just means that THAT character has a “specialty” that they are know for. Cyttorak is known for his Crimson bands, supposedly no one makes better “bands” than he does, so they call on him to use his bands. Just like they call on the “Winds of Wattoomb”, to use his powerful winds, if you need to blow something over. Or the “rings of Raggadorr” to circle of surround something. A huge part that you missed is if Cyttorak is nearly omnipotent, then the other 7 members of the Octessence are omnipotent as well, why else would they have a contest to see who is more powerful? They all must be nearly equal.
I've been trying to find out more about the other Octessence for along time now. This is the most info I've ever been able to gather, thank you. Do you make videos yourself? If so, I'll stop by.
TheAlpha AndTheOmega Thanks for the kind words. I have a site on Quora, where I’ve answered A LOT of questions.
By going through feats alone, Dormammu's been around longer, so he should get the win
Why doesn't Dormammu have his own herald?
@@LegendaryDarkKnight602 because he is a dumbass
Your brother is also here.
@@KillaD55 broooo I’ve seen you in other videos 😂
Doesn't Dormammu draw power from Cyttorak 🤔
Juggernaut really needs more marvel love. Hes my favorite by far
They will probably turn him into an obese Arab lesbian in his next title
@@erictheguapo It's about time. There's literally no Arab characters in Marvel. Joke, but I suppose you're not satisfied with the millions of the white LEADING characters.
@@alissa6 I am not satisfied with the hijacking of culture to promote someones own political biases.
@@erictheguapo And Arabs are the the political biases you're reffering to, right?
@@alissa6 Nope, hijacking characters that are already established and changing them into something completely unrecognizable. Birds of Prey being a great example.
And also things like the New Warriors.
The cool thing is, the main stream audience has no idea of Dormammu or Cyttorak
I love Cyttorak, mostly cuz he just wants ppl to acknowledge his power. He could dominate and conquer, but Eh, he's cool. The type of character that could just destroy everything, but doesn't cuz its too easy. Fuckin A
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Nice! I’ve been asking for this match up on multiple channels for a while. It should be a best of three match, one in each of their respective realms and one on earth for the tie breaker 🙌👏
Hey Rob, if you’re looking for more stories to cover since new comics aren’t coming out I think you could cover Ghost Rider: Trail of Tears. Now if you’ve already covered that I didn’t know since you have a massive backlog of videos. But if you haven’t it’s a really good story.
The Surrealist definitely would love some more ghost rider, midnight sons and occult stuff
Trail of Tears was phenomenal! If possible, Rob, it’d be amazing if you covered Road to Damnation, another fantastic Ghost Rider storyline
Ghost rider 2006 series is epic
Finally a video about Cyttorak. I'm not big into comics but this is something I've been waiting for from this channel for a while.
And don’t forget, in this same Dr Strange series, earlier Satannish and Cyttorak battled, it wasn’t shown, but they fought. And Dormammu created Satannish, so if his creation could battle Cyttorak, Dormammu should be able to beat him.
Please keep the content coming its makes being quarantined a little better
I thought it would be cool to see like, an Avatar of Cyttorak, Doomsday.
Doomsday vs Unstoppable Colossus.
Doomsday is already OP if he was cyttoraks hreald he'd be an unstoppable beast
Time to stay safe inside and listen to Rob while reading some comics.
Can the next video be Trigon vs Darkseid or Trigon vs dormammu
H8 Darkside battles because of the true darkside form that makes his powerlvl hard to grasp. Imo true darkside ruined him as a character.
Dormammu beats Trigon. That’s my opinion
@@Simondadrummer lol again, it would prolly depend on where the fight took place, but I'm inclined to agree
What do you mean “again”?
@@Simondadrummer I mean that the fight between dormamu and cytorak depended on the location of fight just like trigon vs dormamu would. If dormamu went to azerath he would prolly lose, but anywhere else I bet he'd win
I’m really glad that we got a different intro with this one. It’s not that the normal intro sound byte is bad, but after hearing it hundreds of times, I wanted to claw my eardrums out.
The original intro was perfect. But lawsuits and stuff made changes happen.
Mark Keller really? I wonder if we’re talking about the same intro then because I don’t remember there being anything copyright-able from the one I’m thinking of. That’s interesting though.
Release the damn Cyttorak Beyond Omega level video!
Im surprised the other beings like cytorak arent fleshed out considering how formidable the the juggernaut is
Bro I've been watching your vids for ages. Please don't stop. It's like a mini reality for some of us....😂 😂 😂 😂
Thanks Rob and thank you patrons for sharing
I'd love to see you cover the Kingsmen comics
Juggernaut vs thanos
Silver surfer vs Thor
Shuma gorath vs dr doom
- prep and no prep
Adam warlock vs marquis of death
Marquis of death vs the beyonder
Death vs protege
marquis of death vs protege
chaos king vs marquis of death
Juggernaut vs Thanos lmao I’m interested
InjusticeBerserker i was honestly thinking the same thing. I just want some perspective. Over the years they have made juggernaut weaker.
Michael Pryor that was my first thought also. But I was thinking, what if cyttorak gave juggernaut more of his power while he was fighting thanos. Truth be told, we usually see juggernaut at his weakest potential in most cases. If cytorrak gave him more power, out smarting juggs before he gets beat would be thanos only hope.
Michael Pryor definitely... Juggernaut doesn’t get his just dues. Without a doubt Thanos would outsmart juggs. I just hate to think that it would be that simple for thanos.
This is just my opinion on who would win (don't take it personally):
Thanos
Silver surfer and thor are pretty even
Shuma gorath
Marquis of death
The beyonders
Protege
Protege
Chaos King and Marquis of Death are pretty even
Yo!...I was jamming out to the outro...good video man
That comic with Spyte and ths Juggernaut vs Despayre was AWESOME! Theres a great shot of Marko just standing as a smoldering skeleton and hes SUPER PISSED!!! 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
For those wondering about the outro music
Burning Up - Chi Vaughn
YESSSSSS!!!! I was waiting for this match up! THANKS, ROB! 🙏🐉🤘
Dormammu... I came to bargain.
You've come to die, your world is now my world. I connect all worlds.
Rob really pushing that paetrion on us(dont know if I spelt that right)
Yee he wants yo money
@@mementomori771 bloody hell he could be abit more subtle with it though. Robs cool tho
You expect him to make content at a fast rate for free bud? Hell yeah he’s pushing it on you just like everybody pushes on him to make more videos and videos they want to see.
Great video, we definitely need more of these to pass the time inside!
Kudos as always Rob
Vs series are so helpful XD my sons constantly asking who would win, if you have it (and I can't rationalize a position) you're the authority I go to.
Dormammu has more feats and one side is seen being comparable to Odin to then manipulating Eternity etc, however then we also have Cyttorak who is a an Elder God who is a tier above the highest Skyfayher like Odin; so it depends on what’s more important, concrete feats vs Marvel Universe implied and power portrayal.
Cyttorak empowered Juggernaut had no fear of an aspect of Oblivion and Oblivion could destroy him
Adam Warlock's Magus vs The Sentry's Void
Sentry's void.
I want to be a patron but you know, job loss and all.
Vince grey : you are correct. It was agomotto's realm. Thanks again for clearing that up.
Beyond Omega Level: The Endless
He started with "Wassup Patreons"....blushin
Rob! Will you cover more back issues? I love the vids you made on "secret wars" and "God loves man kills"
I got emotional thanks Rob!!!
Gorr the God Butcher vs. Nekron
Please. And the winner vs. The winner of Dormammu vs. Cyttorak
Gorr vs Cyttorak yeah thats gonna be a fun curbstomp to watch
@@GodShadowdeath 😄😄😄
@@GodShadowdeath yeah.. Okay.. You're forgetting Gorr grew stronger through slaying gods.. He kills Nekron and since this all theoretical.
I mean have you got a mind that works?
Dope video bro. Love your content. Tryna get like you big RUclipsr
Outro music is fire
The Spectre VS The Living Tribunal
Hey Rob, are you going to cover Flash Forward? Love the content!
I have a suggestion. I've asked all of my friends who read DC and NO ONE has an answer. What are lantern rings made of? I've seen them shattered and multiplied. I read mostly Marvel and my best conclusion is the emotion they come from. But why are they all rings and not a different ornament for each part of the spectrum?
Nice matchup Rob 😎
Wait wait…just 5seconds into the actually VS video and I already notice there’s a difference in RUclips Robs voice and Patreon Rob 😂 I like RUclips Rob
Do we have info on the other seven entities that were part of the 8 with Cyttorak? Or their artifacts? That would be pretty cuke and if they were never brought up again that's some wasted potential right there.
Awesome, watching it ASAP! Ty
Rob. I love you're vids! Ive been thinking about a really awesome idea for a video you could do. Spawn vs the doomslayer. Who would win? How would the match go? I think you're the only person that could figure it out. Id love it if you did this. Keep up all the awesome vids bro!
Okay look, I was HUGE into Marvel growing up as a kid in the 70s. Now sure I read tons of the comics and do not remember it being this intricate, just bonkers! LOL I mean, honestly I did more drawing than reading because me and my friends really enjoyed making our own comics and drawing them. One of my friends was absolutely INCREDIBLE at drawing and sadly I lost track of him so many years back, but I did find out that he became an illustrator for Marvel, just never found out anything more. He seems to have kept himself very hidden, anyway LOVE Marvel and DC comics! Brings back so many good memories 🙂😆😎👍💖
Awesome match up as always.
You know more about comics than me. But I’ve never been a fan of determining these bouts with feats when one (or both) party has very few showings.
If they both had lots of feats, fine. But when one doesn’t have many, I don’t think it should be considered as being as important. I am glad you did this video though. I want to see more of obscure characters like Cyttorak.
The decision to stop digital comics from releasing is that it'll severely screw comic stores more than they already are. If they release the next six issues of "Whatever Comics" on digital and I read them, what incentive to I have to buy them in person or even go back to the store if I'm now used to the digital format? Adversely, what if I want all six issues in print for collection purposes? Does the comic store have to shell out funds to stock old issues as though they were new just in case? Better to keep everything on the same page and give everyone a breather for a bit.
I had no idea Dormammu was that strong. I thought he was equal or less than Mephisto in terms of pure strength. Crazy.
When both out of their respective domains, I think Cyttorak would smoke him
If Dormammu Drew power from cyttorak than it seems he is weaker
Making sure the entry point for the majority of new comic readers as well as the communities formed around shops stay intact...seems important to me.
Thanks Rob
Those old Dr. Strange comics look similar to Egyptian hieroglyphics.
I would lean that Cyt is more powerful BECAUSE he doesnt have the feats. I dont remember outright but I thought it was other gods who sealed him away not just sorcerers and people. The fact he isnt used is probably more telling to his power because actually having him enter a dimension is certain doom. As far as I remember Dormamu is also not as powerful outside his own dimension and routinely just banished by being tricked by strange. I would say cyt would mush him pretty easily even not in his own dimension.
you should do some crossover vs vids like Dormamu Vs Myxilplik
Myxy would stomp, purely because, his strength doesn't wane crossing dimensions.
Marvel n dc leaving the doors open for new comic book companies
This would be a badass battle
LOVE Versus series!
It's not dumb that they are suspending digital releases, it's amazingly smart and kind; they are showing solidarity with their physical distribution partners who a fair amount of are small local shops that are suffering huge financial losses at the moment and will need that influx of people buying books there once this is over. I honestly surprised that they suspended digital, but that is honestly a blessing for many smaller business (now only if Wizards of the Coast would stop fucking over local game shops, sense they are far more reliant on them for continued business)
Litterly i was asking about this video few days ago after i watched one of your old videos about dr doom what if he became sorcerer supreme,where you mentioned dormamu.
I think Cyterak was one of the gods that sat in the shadows, from the god king Thor story line. I might be mistaken…
Lol. Some of u guys were sneaky. I picked up on what u were doin. Haha
if Dormammu can fight eternity to a stand-still, why did he lose to Galactus
Because - as Stan Lee put it - Galactus is potentially stronger than everything except "The One Above All". Galactus' purpose - to eventually absorb everything and cause its destruction and rebirth. Galactus has the ability to absorb anything that exists but wishes not to do so as to not upset the universal balance for as long as possible. Galactus purposefully starves himself to near death to prolong the existence of everything.
Dr Strange vs Juggernaut now that is a battle I would like to see!
Please cover IDW Ninja Turtles + Shredder in Hell :)
The reason why they are not releasing digital only is obvious . Digital comic sales are low. People still enjoy going to comic book stores. It's not rocket science
Rob now would be the perfect time to cover Dark Reign in its entirety
The book publishers are committed to keeping the local shops alive.
Can you please do a versus or explained videos with Zarathos, the spirit of vengeance inside Johnny blaze. Would love to see Zarathos’s true power and how it scales without The ghost rider!
Weaker then Mephisto
00:06 yo, is that Venom with bat wings? Wtf??
Harits Andhika Nugroho yeah, looks like it. I tried to see if there was a character behind, but I don’t see anyone.
Makes sense. If I had a symbiote I would grow wings,claws and other things.
@@shawn6860 but this is like the 1st time it happens right? He usually just swings like Spiderman
@@ShatteredGlass916 I thought someone pulled that trick. Forget who.
The X-MEN have a villain that looks like Venom, It may be him.
Beyond omega level John Constantine
Cyttorak is vastly more powerful than Dormammu.. Cytorrak >>>> Zom >>>> Dormammu >>>> Mephisto..
No new comics? Just recap back issues. This what I am doing for my local mom and pop store... so they can survive this pandemic. I actually implore everyone to support your local comic store & buy back issues. There are SO many stories out there. This can be a time to catch up or start a new journey. Like Saga (hint-hint ROB!) or any lesser known books. I am currently getting all of the Buffy the vampire slayer & anything Johnathan Hickman books now.
Rob, I think I speak for alot of us saying this. We're just glad your healthy and safe.
As for content as long as it is cool it and you enjoy yourself will do.👍
Finally i requested this long time ago
i know you have decided on video content, but i think it would be cool to talk about the creation and evolution of characters over time in conjunction with the writers handling the content
nah I've always Loved Cyttorak and imo He would win as we know he is powerful but never never his FULL power as for Dormammu he has to worry about the Mindless Ones invading his realm while Cyttorak doesn't have to worry about that crap.
Now, here's a question that just ran through my mind the first time while watching: Dr. Strange draws on the power of Cyttorak when invoking the Crimson Bands. Why does Cyttorak ALLOW Dr. Strange and other sorcerers to draw away his power to perform some minor task or spell he probably couldn't care less about?
Dr Strange has to worship him to gain the right (probably doesn't want to but it's worth it).
@@jimwest7107 Thank you Jim for your explanation. So the ritual Dr. Strange performs to e. g. summon the crimson bands is like an act of worship?
Because it's for nefarious purposes. Cytorak has limitless power he is an elder God and thrives on destruction. Any time his name is invoked he will lend a portion for destruction. But Rob is wrong on this cytorak wins hands down he is from a higher plain and is truly immortal. That's why the pantheon never fought they are all immortal and there could never be a winner hence the avatar aspect.
Not only Dr. Strange, but Scarlet Witch and a few other magic users as well. As long as said user causes some destruction, Cyttorak doesn't care and will lend a hand sort of speak.
Has the Hulk ever been a herald of Citerac? If so is he or would he be the most powerful herald?
Citerac?
I dont think hes been the herrald of cytorrak but he has been the herald of galactus and he was fucking insanely powerful
@@cornevandermerwe2902 Would be nice to see Galactus' Herald Hulk vs Unstoppable Colossus.
@@LegendaryDarkKnight602 the thing is I havent seen feats of cosmic hulk(galactus herald hulk) since at the end of the comic he only becomes galactus herald. But i believe the strongest hulk (stronger than WBH and Cosmic hulk) is Immortal cosmic hulk and he would definitely throw any juggenaut round like a ragdoll. Unfortunately tho this hulk is evil as he is basically possesed by the one below all
@@cornevandermerwe2902 You're right, let's move away from that Hulk and try Hulk as the horseman "WAR."