Thanks for creating this great video. From my perspective as an engineer in electronics and computer science with great passion for video and audio, I have the impression that the Trinnov overall approach is the by far most advanced one. Any other approach that uses only one microphone to do some room measurement will only result in adjustments of the levels along the frequency, i.e. some kind of automated parametric EQ. While this may be sufficient for many cases, for example when doing quick adjustments to a smaller PA system to make it sound nicely, the Trinnov systems can measure in 3D, thereby finding out which portion of the sound comes directly from the speakers and which portion is from the first reflections. With this information, the internal SW can not only calibrate some kind of EQ curve but also optimize the phase behavior of the speakers in a specific room for a specific listening position. From my understanding, this would even mean that the Trinnov-System can calibrate the overall audio chain, including the power amps, the speaker cables, the speakers with their built-in crossover networks, and the room. Of course, the room needs some beforehand treatment, and the speakers need to be in a good position. Pls let me know if my assumptions are wrong in any way.
Hello Maikel ! Adding a subwoofer for 2.1 system is simple, basically just like adding another speaker, for more technical questions please contact our support team, support@trinnov.com
Thank you for your interest ! There is currently a similar app in the works for windows, but for now you can simply use a browser via VNC to login into the unit. You will need an internet connection though, with the app or not. If there is no direct access to the router via RJ45 the unit can also connect to the Wi-Fi via a simple access box. Hope it answers your question, and if you have more, please email our support team at support@trinnov.com
Hello Mathias, adding a sub is actually super easy with our processors, basically just like adding any other speaker! If you would like a more in-depth explanation or have more technical questions, please email our support team there : support@trinnov.com
Usually, Any measurement microphone can be used for recording, and some have become very beloved. DPA was founded because their parent company Bruel & Kjaer found out that lots and lots of recording engineers went through all kinds of hoops to be able to record with their fantastic measurement microphones. The first many DPA microphones where just measurement microphones in a different housing and with an XLR output instead of the proprietary system @@HS-ed3dz
is there a general suggestion of whether it is better to place the ST2 before or after the monitor controller? this would be for a simple monitor controller that provides only volume control before going out to the speakers...
There is no basic answer to the question, depending on your setup and needs, please write to our talented support team. They will advise the best solution for you, support@trinnov.com
the app looks cool, however, I don't even get my mac osx to connect with the ST2 Pro. it asks me for an IP address and that is about it. Yes, I got the ST2 connected to my mac... any help would be appreciated.
Cool video! I'd actually be interested in the system, but when I downloaded the Mac app to check it out it told me that it is to old to run on this OS. I'm already running an old OS (Catalina) which means the app hasn't been updated in years. I don't want to invest in a system which is no longer supported, so I hope you can tell me what's going on :)
Our macOS app is currently compatible with the latest software and M1 Processors, we update it constantly :) Catalina might require an older version that you can ask our support team. The app still is only there for control and will not work without a Trinnov processor!
@@TrinnovAudio Thanks a lot for your response! That is what hoped to hear/read :) 👍 I actually found the issue, it's the Mac gate keeper which shows a somewhat confusing message that the app needs to be updated. While in fact the problem is that the app hasn’t been notarized with Apple. Right click -> open -> open anyway does the trick :)
Hello Lauroon ! We actually do not use Pink Noise but a modified maximum length sequence (MLS) measurement technique, which was developed solely for use in room acoustics.
In this video you are using the Dangerous as a monitor controller. I wrote Dangerous and they told me that if I connect the Dangerous to the ST2 pro, I will then be monitoring thourgh the Trinnov and lose the monitoring capabilities of the Dangerous. How come?...I bought the Dangerous ST for the transparency in the signal chain and their step FLETCHER attenuator, and the Trinnov just for the room Optimization, NOT for monitoring. Will I lose all of that Dangerous functions if I connect that with the Trinnov?...will the Trinnov ruin the Dangerous ST monitoring capabilities?...IT'S getting very confusing right now
Hello Federico, not at all, both units can work really nicely together and a lot of our users own both! What you would do here is place the Trinnov right before your speakers and after the Monitor ST, the Trinnov will therefore take care of room correction and speaker optimization and the Dangerous of all monitoring purposes, please write to our support team for any help support@trinnov.com they will help you set up in the nicest way possible.
Thanks for creating this great video.
From my perspective as an engineer in electronics and computer science with great passion for video and audio, I have the impression that the Trinnov overall approach is the by far most advanced one.
Any other approach that uses only one microphone to do some room measurement will only result in adjustments of the levels along the frequency, i.e. some kind of automated parametric EQ. While this may be sufficient for many cases, for example when doing quick adjustments to a smaller PA system to make it sound nicely, the Trinnov systems can measure in 3D, thereby finding out which portion of the sound comes directly from the speakers and which portion is from the first reflections. With this information, the internal SW can not only calibrate some kind of EQ curve but also optimize the phase behavior of the speakers in a specific room for a specific listening position.
From my understanding, this would even mean that the Trinnov-System can calibrate the overall audio chain, including the power amps, the speaker cables, the speakers with their built-in crossover networks, and the room. Of course, the room needs some beforehand treatment, and the speakers need to be in a good position.
Pls let me know if my assumptions are wrong in any way.
Thank you ! This is actually great analysis and not far from the truth ;)
really nice !
Thanks for the video.
Can you guys explain in another video how to connect the Trinnov to do the calibration of a subwoofer or a 2.1 system? Thanks
Hello Maikel ! Adding a subwoofer for 2.1 system is simple, basically just like adding another speaker, for more technical questions please contact our support team, support@trinnov.com
@@TrinnovAudio Thank you!
Can I use it? I don’t have a mac I’m using windows I have UAD interface and no access to the router only WiFi
@trinnovaudio would also like to know
Thank you for your interest ! There is currently a similar app in the works for windows, but for now you can simply use a browser via VNC to login into the unit. You will need an internet connection though, with the app or not. If there is no direct access to the router via RJ45 the unit can also connect to the Wi-Fi via a simple access box. Hope it answers your question, and if you have more, please email our support team at support@trinnov.com
FYI seems like you need to remove the USB stick before rebooting, just FYI. Mine went into a boot loop until I removed it, then it came up as shown. 👍
Will this work for room tuning a pa? how much latency does it have if any?
Hi Trinnov! Do you have any video explaining how to add a sub and how to do the setup in Trinnov ST2 Pro?. Best/Mathias
Hello Mathias, adding a sub is actually super easy with our processors, basically just like adding any other speaker! If you would like a more in-depth explanation or have more technical questions, please email our support team there : support@trinnov.com
@@TrinnovAudio Thanks :)
Hi cool video. Just wondering, can you do the calibration using the digital outputs to a dac?
Glad you liked it, And to answer your question: yes you can !
I'd love to hear what that microphone sounds. It might be good it might be bad but regardless it would be very interesting
Eh? The microphone takes measurements it doesn't sound like anything 😂
Usually, Any measurement microphone can be used for recording, and some have become very beloved. DPA was founded because their parent company Bruel & Kjaer found out that lots and lots of recording engineers went through all kinds of hoops to be able to record with their fantastic measurement microphones. The first many DPA microphones where just measurement microphones in a different housing and with an XLR output instead of the proprietary system @@HS-ed3dz
is there a general suggestion of whether it is better to place the ST2 before or after the monitor controller?
this would be for a simple monitor controller that provides only volume control before going out to the speakers...
There is no basic answer to the question, depending on your setup and needs, please write to our talented support team. They will advise the best solution for you, support@trinnov.com
@@TrinnovAudio thanks, I was already in contact with your distribution in Germany and they offered to assist!
Is the set up roughly the same for the ST2 Hifi? I’m about to receive a ST2 Hifi to demo. So far I am so so tempted to pull the trigger. 😬
The ST2 Hifi software is actually a bit different and offers a more streamlined user interface to integrate it more easily into a home set up !
@@TrinnovAudio ... TQ! Hope to find out soon.
the app looks cool, however, I don't even get my mac osx to connect with the ST2 Pro. it asks me for an IP address and that is about it. Yes, I got the ST2 connected to my mac... any help would be appreciated.
Please contact our support team they will sort you out, support@trinnov.com
Cool video! I'd actually be interested in the system, but when I downloaded the Mac app to check it out it told me that it is to old to run on this OS. I'm already running an old OS (Catalina) which means the app hasn't been updated in years. I don't want to invest in a system which is no longer supported, so I hope you can tell me what's going on :)
Our macOS app is currently compatible with the latest software and M1 Processors, we update it constantly :) Catalina might require an older version that you can ask our support team. The app still is only there for control and will not work without a Trinnov processor!
@@TrinnovAudio Thanks a lot for your response! That is what hoped to hear/read :) 👍
I actually found the issue, it's the Mac gate keeper which shows a somewhat confusing message that the app needs to be updated. While in fact the problem is that the app hasn’t been notarized with Apple. Right click -> open -> open anyway does the trick :)
I dont get it. It plays pink Noise? Thats ok for volume but can it do an EQ based on that? You will need a frequency Sweep!?
Hello Lauroon ! We actually do not use Pink Noise but a modified maximum length sequence (MLS) measurement technique, which was developed solely for use in room acoustics.
In this video you are using the Dangerous as a monitor controller. I wrote Dangerous and they told me that if I connect the Dangerous to the ST2 pro, I will then be monitoring thourgh the Trinnov and lose the monitoring capabilities of the Dangerous. How come?...I bought the Dangerous ST for the transparency in the signal chain and their step FLETCHER attenuator, and the Trinnov just for the room Optimization, NOT for monitoring. Will I lose all of that Dangerous functions if I connect that with the Trinnov?...will the Trinnov ruin the Dangerous ST monitoring capabilities?...IT'S getting very confusing right now
Hello Federico, not at all, both units can work really nicely together and a lot of our users own both! What you would do here is place the Trinnov right before your speakers and after the Monitor ST, the Trinnov will therefore take care of room correction and speaker optimization and the Dangerous of all monitoring purposes, please write to our support team for any help support@trinnov.com they will help you set up in the nicest way possible.
So there's a box that automatically does to stereo what I do to individual drivers in my six way car stereo? Sheesh.
So if I have near field plus 2 monitors plus a sub will it work?
Hello John ! The ST2 is limited to 4 channels of optimization, for higher channel count, please look into our D-MON processor for example
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