Pokemon Collectors Got Scammed For MILLIONS!
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025
- The Pokemon card community was rocked by a bombshell that many of the recently graded pokemon cards from the 1990s are actually FAKE! Millions have been lost on this scam after CGC the card grading company began telling people they were legit cards.
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It's prononucned po-keh-mon. Not pokimon.
I agree it’s CGC scams
FAKE NEWS! Nobody who collects Pokemon has $1M!
Hey, so with the AI feature on this video are you able to see questions people ask in your RUclips Studio?
@ if you ask the ai questions, I don’t see it, no.
The fact that a bunch of test cards from the mid-90s had 9-10/10 condition should have been a red flag to begin with.
Great point
For real. We were not gentle with our precious cards
@@jayridglyn8580 well these are supposed to be test cards so in theory they were only ever handled by adults, some if not most would have been kept by adults their entire life. These arent base set cards we opened in packs as kids
@@jayridglyn8580 every single yugioh card's back i have is destroyed lmao and they were sleeved and in a binder, maybe 2 are good
And yet the ones that indeed were authenticated afterwards with the dot method and were personally handed by Akabane (is this his name?) were in perfect condition.
It all depends. Let's not forget these cards were NOT possessed by children, but by adults using them as work material.
Kinda funny that you mentioned Logan Paul in this video. When I 1st saw the title of this video, the very 1st thing that I thought of was that 1 time, Logan lost $3.5 million when he thought he had paid for a sealed box of original Pokemon cards. That turned out to be a bunch of worthless GI Joe cards.
One of my favorite videos, always cracks me up.
@@ShaferScott Same here.
Did he also lose out on fake Pikachu paintbrush one?
He didn’t lose anything he gained more publicity thru that proven stunt
Wait, what happened to the GI Joe cards then? I could see slimeballs like the Pauls trying to sell them off, card by card, as "Paul touched cards from that one video" to try and recoup.
This is an interesting twist. The card graders have been SWAPPING ORIGINALS and shipping back forgeries they manufactured to the customers who have them graded. Then they go on to sell the original for full price.
I was so worried about this that I didnt want to send my basically mint charizard in
@@doomsdoorgood put it up for display and keep it safe that card is amazing I don’t want others cards being stolen
Possibly what coin graders do also
Pfm is a legend for making this public, he owns quite a few of these cards and could have sold them for a lot of money, but he decided to do the good thing here and tell everyone. Also i find it a little hard to believe akabane had no clue about the fakes , considering nobody even heard about these cards for 20+ years and then all the sudden tons of them pop up for sale on the market and some were printed in 24 that he signed
you are making the assumption that the autograph wasn't forged too
@ i think the only ones identified as real were not signed and i'm pretty sure he worked with cgc to authenticate his autograph
What is this, Madarame from Persona 4 case?
@@jo1948 the autograph was certified by akabane and cgc both, it's a real autograph
I don't know anything about the card game maker guy, but I wonder about dementia/alzheimers and people surrounding him.
I had an uncle who was dealing with memory issues got tricked and had all his savings stolen by a family member who ran off and wasted it all on drugs.
Maybe someone he knew had seen stuff he had in collections, made some fakes, and convinced him to sign them? Or forged his signature... Some people are just horrible...
There were a guy faking expensive wine. It turns out, the "expert collectors" can't distinguish between a cheap supermarket wine and a super expensive one.
Pokemon cards is just the same. They are expensive just because someone wants them to be expensive, they have no clue about what they are buying.
same is true for cigars, people will convince themselves a $20+ cigar is different from a $5 cigar.
Well yeah. Real cards are worth money because not everybody can have that card. Everybody has something they collect or do with their that gets them through life.
@@evanhandelong7685 "no one can have (THAT) bottle of wine" very same logic as Pokemon cards
Years ago an episode of I think "American Greed" dealt with wine forgery. Turns out the way to put a stop to a lot of it is to not allow people including staff of restaurants from taking the wine bottles home.
One way to stop fake wine is to inspect the cork. Nowadays a lot of wine corks have engraving on them. So if a wine cork is supposed to be from a time where this is going on and it doesn't then likely the wine is fake.
@@tonystark19631 kinda, you can clearly tell the difference between a $5 and $20 cigar(the quality of the leaf and wrapping is vastly better), but less so between a $20 and $20+ one
Fake graded cards are a nightmare for collectors. Either the counterfeiters are now so good, or the grading company failed badly.
Either way, perhaps we should let children's card games be enjoyed by children? These were never meant to be blue chip assets, and kids today can't get Pokemon cards because adults are hoarding them all.
To be fair, kids today are not after 1996 beta print Pokemon cards.
Nintendo Labo, Amiibo, Funky Pops, Sponge Bob, Pokemon cards, etc
I'm not sure how we could differentiate between a 40 years old male and a 7 years old boy in 2025...
Your idea is good but not enforceable.
@@SLRModShop dude, let me correct you there: it's not just men. Women, non-binary and so on types are no less into collecting stuff. Ever seen a Hello Kitty limited edition figure go on sale and the sheer bedlam that results from that among 30-50 year old ladies? Gotta know these things for my work, unfortunately, but humans are prone to collecting.
Usually something that piked their interest as a kid, or otherwise appeals to them in some way. Stamps, sand, Voltron's 4 incarnations, LEGO, teeth, fossils, car manuals, MLP, Transformers, crystals, videogames, etc. are just a few examples, you can't think of anything outrageous that won't be collected. And if it's a rare addition to the collection? You can bet your shiney hiney that even your dear old granny would wade into the melee for it.
@@SLRModShopSorry they hurt your feelings. But it’s a card game dude. Grow up
@ so I'm saying that card games are for kids, and you reply to me "it's a card game, grow up"...
Never let them know your next move lol
CGC will pay nothing. They lose comics, damage comics, inconsistent grading and the list goes on. Nothing comes of it all. They wash their hands clean. The only thing that will make them change is if people stop using their service.
They will if they're in a class action. Suddenly they have hundreds of thousands in legal fees.
I'm a small time Pokemon card collector. Not a single card is graded and I never plan to cause it's just a scam in general lol. I collect for the love of the cards and Pokemon. I find it very peaceful to just sort them then mess them up again to sort once more.
Seeing the cards become impossible to get thanks to people who just buy them for money or scalpers is very sad. I've not bought any for a good year or so now. I've taken to handing out my many doubles to kids in town who want them. I don't need more than one of something so hopefully they can enjoy it too.
Same.
I was hoping to collect all the Gardevoir cards, but some of the prices are insane.
I'm the same way. I like to collect Pokemon cards for the enjoyment of the cards, not to flip them.
It really has been ruined
The big stealing scandal was what did it for me. The problem is the people that pay scalper prices. If no one paid the outrageous prices we wouldn't be here today.
@@YetAnotherShadowBannedAccount the pokemon company is also the problem for not printing more cards
Another reason I dropped out of this hobby, it’s too expensive nowadays. And I’m one of the original collectors from 1999 as a child.
My local store doesn't even have players. Just collectors.
I had a lot of cards back in 1999. My dad bought them for me. Sold them too early, before the hype came back. But I found an unopened pack in a closet in his house, which I sold for quite a bit of money - but then it disappeared in the mail. Not sure if it got stolen or if the person who bought it told me it was gone to get a refund.
I bought some new packs as a former sports card, but I see that rabbit hole can be expensive.
Same
@makingadjustments
Nostalgic Nomics: You're just jealous, you're dumb and poor. Don't be mad you don't know how to capitalize off these cards.
People go to extreme lengths to counterfeit 20 dollar bills, which is full of anti-counterfeiting measures. So you can bet they will do the same to counterfeit these pieces of cardboard with none of that, which people are paying 10s of thousands of dollars for.
This is so real
Pokemon Scam all over *again?*
I hope LP has nothing to do with it this time.
Team Rocket strikes again!
Lol
''The Pokemon community''
99% have nothing to do with this. Only the rich that should place those in a museum for everyone to see.
There are people who didn't even care about Pokémon until it became the in thing to do. They just bought everything all at once and pretend to be a collector. That's a buyer.
It will now hurt everybody
Psa is a scam. I've been trying to tell people for over 10 years. My friends signed cards on video and sent them in. They authenticated them. You can open the slabs and send them in again and the grade will change. It's a joke.
Goofy people scammed themselves by thinking any of those pieces of cardboard had value to begin with 😂
I agree I'm totally goofy myself
But it’s not “thinking” nothing. There is huge value in cardboard genius. Probably more money in most average collections than you have in your bank account but keep making fun of it while living in mommy’s basement.
If you had some, you would sell for market value not throw them out
I'm doubting it's that the cards are just fake. I'm betting the grading company is stealing the originals sent in to authenticate them. I've heard those rumors for years.
No these are fake we have cards with printer metadata in them showing they where printed in 2024
@@Zretgul_timerunneryes they could have done it. And were
@Zretgul_timerunner you obviously didn't read or understand his comment
@@vm68chris dawg yall are so clueless to what we know thats its hilarious dont try and tell me ive known of this incident since it happend ive litterally helped on E4 forum this very story Being reported on is from. But yeah the originals where stolen hur durr...
Thr very fact they graded both all legit and fake cards that was given to them from akabane disputes this no point in chamging out just specifically one sets of cards and then a hodgepodge afterwords etc.
@Zretgul_timerunner did you take lessons to be this stupid or does it just come naturally for you?
When I glanced at this article I just thought it had been a problem between collectors and not something the creators of the game would be involved. This is crazy!
its a nice wholesome idea having your childhood base set still stored in a drawer somewhere and knowing its legit since you have had it since the time where a fake would be easily reckonisable.
It apparently isn't just Pokemon. There have also been claims made against dubious CGC certified Yu-Gi-Oh "Magic & Wizards" cards.
MTG next
Magics been a money grab since they got bought. "trading cards" are just gambling now. How the fuck can you own a card with other people? (talking about that 1.5 mil basketball card)
@@instrumental fr, it's just a piece of cardboard that so happens that someone spent a million on because they have nothing worthwhile spending on.
The fact that anyone even still sends stuff to PGA or CGC baffles me because they've been caught multiple times swapping what was sent to them with different ones. So either someone is intentionally scamming people or they're so inadequate they can't even keep track of who sent what in.
@a_sweetroll1627 yeah, it boggles me that they can be worth hundreds even, let alone millions. At least they're physical objects, unlike NFTs, where you just own a URL with a receipt saying you bought it. But spending a lot on either is kinda crazy to me
If it's a company that whole purpose is saying if something is authentic it deserves to go bankrupt if they're selling fakes
The damn rating/grading companies are pathetic and scammers. They demand outrageous payments and just glance at it, making up random scores.
It sounds like CGC is definitely at fault: at best, they failed to identify the counterfeits as being counterfeit, which invalidates their entire purpose. Akabane may or may not be complicit - he may have printed the counterfeit himself, or he may have given CGC a genuine card and assumed the counterfeit he received in return was the same card.
There is a lot of rumour in the comment section here that says CGC have been swapping cards out, so you send in your legitimate card and CGC slips your card away and sends you back a fake.
I wouldn't be surprised if the grading company or someone within the grading swapped the real cards with fake ones
With what I know of those companies, the former is highly improbably and the latter is usually prevented by security measures. Companies like theirs are all about image and trustworthiness, so it's far more likely they simply were fooled during the casual inspections they do. *shrugs* Fakes keep getting better made.
They already have, several times. The biggest one was last year where they were even faking higher grades to inflate the value.
There's a lot more and more safe&steady money to be made by accepting extra money to grade cards that should get 6.5-7 at 8-8.5 or whatever. No reason to risk it all on a scam like the one way you suggest imo.
I thought the same, you work there, you grade the card, forge it, swap, grade ^^
Praying for the downfall of grading businesses with another one of these massive scams coming out of them. Literally a sham business model that is 100% "source: trust us bro"
I used to buy boosters at a local stationary shop...turns out my entire collection was fake...2002
Bro fuck those people I spent so much money on fake cards when I was little
Thats nuts, they weren't worth much back in 2002, surprised they were making fakes back then.
@@ShaferScott If people will buy it someone will make a fake and scam people with it.
@@ShaferScott Fakes have been around since the 90s. I remember one kid on the playground showing us some cards that were the wrong thickness and colors and he got mad when we pointed it out to him.
Is it wrong for me to hope and wish that Logan has a phoney one? 😂
I feel terrible for any actual collector that got duped by these. But on the other hand, I can't help but laugh at the people who treat the hobby as an investment opportunity and got fucked by these lmfao
Honestly? Fuck Spec-Buyers. They make a supposed cheap hobby so expensive and inaccessible because of their Bullshit.
The duality of man
Pokemon Red and Green were the two first ones not Red and Blue, only here in the western world were Blue and Red the first
Love seeing ppl actually know these things
Came here to say the same thing
Nobody cares.
@@CptFuzzAldrin Loser
@@CptFuzzAldrin obviously they do... just cuz you don't doesn't mean others don't... and if you didn't, why comment? Why watch the video?
Card grading has always been a scam. Back in the day when grading started people would use magic eraser to get a higher score. Just keep sending the same cards in until it got the grade you like. Not consistent at all. Logan paul bought a card from pokemon Garry that he had submitted several times over a 15 year period and never got a perfect Beckett grade. Logan buys it and within weeks has a perfect 10.0 on his regrade.
Yeah I've seen a video of a guy who sent in two pokemon cards, one was originally graded as a psa 5, the other a psa 6, he cracked both of them and sent them back in, got them both back as psa 10. Also in most cases the value of the card only increases if it is a 10, otherwise you can actually end up losing value against the card.
@@captainweekend5276 Even the pricing of these grading companies are suspect. They charge plus for even looking at the things they grade. Once I read the websites of a few of them, and it makes me cringe when I hear people using them.
@@captainweekend5276 yes alot of stores use to crack the case when buying cards with an average grade. Crazy how people grade almost everything right now. Use to be only super rare was worth grading. I just wouldn't pay $25 in fees to grade a $40 card. But I guess in bulk you get discounts. I use to collect 2003-2014ish Back when pokemon packs would go on discount if the store had too many.And no i didn't buy a whole costco like people are doing now.
Its impossible Akebane is not involved. The only way such a forgery would work since there are a few that are indeed dated from 1996, is that someone had the real files and knew in what kind of printer and material they were made.
Akebane made a bank with all these sales, and most likely has kept the original files somewhere. Its easy to connect the dots from there.
It’s also possible that these Pokémon cards were created in 2024 of a different universe and then blipped through a momentary wormhole to be in our 1996 while our 1996 cards blipped to 2024 in the other universe because that’s how far behind they are than us. So these Pokémon cards could be authentic cards from a different 2024 AND they always existed in our universe since 1996. Ipso facto, unless you can rule out that possibility, you can’t say Akobano did anything wrong.
And honestly, if my theory is right and these cards were created legitimately in a different 2024 universe and wormholed into our universe in 1996, would that make them more or less authentic than if they were from our 1996? Please discuss.
@@DoctorBiobrain Fucking world record in mental gymnastics to defend a guy that proof indicates was involved in a scam 😂
Not necessarily. As long as they can find a close enough picture of what's to be made, they can print it. And without looking at it closely to look at the inking and coloring of the card, you generally can't tell since they've even been able to copy how the colors of the card should have faded over the years. It's been common practice to look at the inking of older Magic the Gathering cards because of this.
These companies are all at it, you have PSA printing and grading their own cards, Ace Grading in the UK staging a robbery for the insurance payout and now CGC too.
one time when i was a kid i had the limited edition promo ancient mew card from the movie and i put it against the car window of my grandma's car and it fell down into the crack inside the car door and i never saw it again
lesson learned
It isn't very hard to take apart a car door.
If you tried you could probably have been able to open it and put it back like it was.
I have repaired things in car doors many times they are made to be able to open and reassemble them.
@@cajampa"when i was a kid" im sure you disassembled car doors without problems when you were 7
@@MrFakefall The point is that is very possible to disassemble a car door.
And it is not very hard they are made to be disassembled for repairs.
If I lost something precious to me in a car door at 7, I am pretty sure I would have tried.
But I have always been good at such things. And I always liked to take things apart and reassemble them like fun mechanical puzzles when I was a kid.
😂
Probably wiser to ask to buy a new copy at the card store for what was probably $1-2 than mess with grandma's car without permission.
I feel vindicated now for warning people from jumping on the CGC bandwagon.
Been holding all my originals from childhood thankfully.
Any recommendations if I wanted to off some?
I feel like anyone who's willing to pay millions of dollars for cards or Video games, Deserves to get ripped off.
I find all of it to be a scam.
I always laugh when I search a game up on pricecharting I see a 100$ pricetag and then find it for 3$ on marketplace.
It frustrates me as someone who plays pokemon with my kids going to the local card shop. To get good cards to play with cost a lot of money and you struggle to find the trainer boxes when they come out to open. Sure we collect the cards but we also play with them that we collect. The entire thing is as stupid as people who collect sneakers.
@@DeusVivitI've been a Pokémon fan since 1999, and I always preferred playing with the cards too; they're game pieces, not Wall Street stock. I didn't have very many people at all to play the Pokémon TCG with, but I did buy the cards to build decks with. Nowadays I buy the packaged battle decks and play a couple variants of Pokémon solitaire with them.
@@jonofarc443Pokemon wall street takes a tumble
Me: who plays Pokemon with my friend: good
0:49 False, Pocket Monsters Red and Green* came out first in Japan, then Blue months later. In America, yes it was Red and Blue first. Green never came out here, so the one shown at 0:54 is a fake translated hack, which fits the theme of your video 😂
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@@mikeyd-yl3vv 🤡👆
3:25 "RUclips Scammer Logan Paul" that burn was awesome
Love it!
fun fact: In Japan, it was actually Red and Green that released, not Red and Blue. Red and Blue were an updated release, which featured some improvements (pokémon sprites IIRC were the thing that saw the most touch ups) for the international audience, and then Blue was re-released in Japan as the first ever "third version".
If this sounds surprising, it would actually be interesting to note that this actually was incredibly common back in the day, a Japanese game would be released internationally many months later with some updates and improvements, and then the international version would be released in Japan as an updated re-release, oft titled "International" despite being Japan-exclusive.
That's actually a really fun fact. I appreciate knowing this
Japanese language doesn't differentiate between blue and green, has to do with the way the language formed but most things that are blue are called green in Japan and blue everywhere else.
@@jcole1679
It's not that they don't differentiate, it's that Blue and Green are considered different shades of the same color, which isn't quiite the same thing. It's closer to someone who speaks English and differentiates "Navy Blue" or "Ocean Blue" from just plain "Blue".
They have a specific word (Midori) for something that is a light green, it's just also considered a shade of Ao, which is the word used for the entire spectrum of "Blue". Similarly they have words for dark blues and light blues, Kon and Mizuiro respectively,
Japanese colors are weird, like for instance they can use both the loanword "pink" for pink, or if it's a lighter shade, call it "peach colored" using momoiro. While it's a complex language that has a lot of words to describe specific things, sometimes the language surprisingly lacks words for a bunch of things, or straight up uses English loanwords instead because the Japanese term is too complicated and/or cumbersome.
@@jcole1679except Venusaur is on the box
@@jcole1679Uh, no. Some colors we would consider as green would indeed be called blue (green apples, green traffic lights etc) but blue and green are certainly not seen as the same.
Oh man i didn't think people outside my niche would be covering this so quickly
Lmao I was coming to say the other exact thing. Pokemon is not a niche anymore. When you have regular retail fighting over boxes at Costco it's not a niche. @@makingadjustments
@ Bro is just yapping
I am an archivist. In the middle ages and early modern period, different paper manufacturers would print their seal into each sheet of paper, and often changed this seal every 1-10 years, creating an easy way to identify the origin and date of the paper used (and therefore estimate the date of the book the paper is in). It’s very cool to know there is still a version of this in the modern tech era!
I bet both CGC and Pokémon developer where in on it. Both will claim ignorance..
CGC is in a catch 22, If they feign ignorance, then it's all over for them as a grading company. They can no longer be trusted. If it comes out they were involved, they can no-longer be trusted. They're either cooked or will have to rebrand.
i hate grading, all it does it play into the greater fool theory of these things. if you actually like the cards and collect them because of that i don't understand why a 7 8 9 or 10 matters to you. i have plenty of cards with rough edges or creases that i got for next to nothing because they're not worth getting graded
"Investing" has driven the market too high which breeds scams such as fakes.
Obscene. The earliest creators made very little... He literally tried to double-dip in the few things he has of value to sell from the franchise. 😂
CGC falling off hard rn, if I had any cards graded by them I'd be looking to move them off quickly
Why counterfeit currency when counterfeiting collectibles is soooo much easier. Man, CGC can't catch a break. It's one scandal after another. How are they still around?
This is crazy because CGC is also very dominant in other collecting markets such as Coin grading . I wonder what the knock on effect is gonna be.
Not much. They were screwing over comic book collectors back in December 2023 and the fact that anyone still goes to them is baffling.
I cannot believe this is an actual thing. Now I just need someone to certify my Beanie Babies and all the stupid McDonald's Happy Meal toys I have collected over the years...
Who's CGC going to throw under the bus for this one? There's no way they can deny involvement 🤔
I’m extremely surprised to see you covering this I love your videos! Thank you for looking into the actions of some crooks/scammers that infiltrated the Pokemon hobby
The dots printed on the card, also provide the serial number of the printer.
Get the FBI involved, and they can get the printer manufacturer to reveal where that printer was sold, and possibly who purchased it if a credit card was used.
Sure, they probably will be able to drop what they are doing and look up the printer that makes fakes for the game designed for children. People aren’t murdered every day or anything this will be what they should look into.
@Largecow_Moobeast Million + dollar international fraud gets their attention.
Most murders are handled by local police, not the FBI.
The FBI tracking counterfeiting is the whole reason those tracking dots exist. The FBI pressured the printer manufacturers into including them.
Scambuster is the best shirt, scams “r” us shirt was a little bit of a let down tho because I was honestly expecting logan Paul’s face on it for the promotion lol
CGC Company Rating: ➖️🔟 💩
Every time somebody tells me "It's too hard to fake (insert item) so nobody would" I laugh at their naivete. If anything gains speculative value, it's bound to have counterfeits passed off as legit before long.
Should prove that grading is a scam
"Aka-Bane" sounds like a Batman supervillain
Police use this ...not only can police tell you the type of printer they can tell you the exact printer ...it how secret service track down who writes threatening letters so fast
So like. Can we finally admit that most card grading companies are scams yet?
As a coin dealer knowing the parent company CCG that also owns the coin grading company NGC, I highly doubt a $10 million payout for this scandal would bankrupt the company. Three years ago an investment acquisition in the company attributed a $500 million valuation for CCG. Sure, this would definitely sting and bruise their reputation, but I highly doubt CCG would file bankruptcy over the fallout from this.
All the shirts are personally signed by Mr. Beast hired people. =)))
So glad the shirts are coming out. I like the Toys 'R Us, and the Blockbuster ones.
Thanks, I appreciate that. Hope people like them
As long as the hand of the person signing something has touched something that was touched by a famous person, it’s the same as if the famous person signed it. That’s the Transitive Property of Fame.
These fake cards could be nice for collectors to fill the gaps in the collection consisting of impossible to obtain ultra expensive cards. Where to buy them?
I collect Magic. I often wonder, as time goes on, tech gets better and better, if there will be a time when we simply cannot tell a fake from a real card.
That will truly be the best for the people who actually play the game instead of trying to make money on it. I hate finding a card I'd want to use in a deck only to find out that it's like $30 because people are trying to use it as an investment.
i know from some collector they had a fake so good you had to full inspect it to check it was $200+ card. They said themself it was a fake but others very well in the community for years (even judges) thought it was real.
CGC is done for sure
0:40 NOUP!... The first games were "Pocket Monsters RED" and "Pocket Monster GREEN", not blue.... "Pocket Monsters BLUE" came up 8 months later as Special Edition. Pocket Monster Yellow hit the shelfs late 1998.
Acksualy vibe
@@yommmrr
Neeeeeerrrd
If the source of these cards was only Akabane and the card designs were unknown to the public then how could a unassociated randomer forge them? Also why would a randomer forge something that wasn't publicly available? The fact the forgeries were 2024 would also imply they were created with knowledge of the forthcoming sale. I think the circumstantial evidence stacks up.
I dunno ... never understood spending thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of dollars - or more - for a silly Pokemon card.
Yeah I don't get it either 🤷🏻
@makingadjustments who prints your money big boy?
Damn! Well done on throwing shade st Paul. I had to listen to it twice just to make sure you called him a scammer. Love it!
*edit* i guess no one learned from the Logan Paul pokemon box scandal.
I collect strictly newer Pokemon cards because of how good a lot of the art can be, but also a little because of the option to make a little extra money by selling some of them off. Namely anything Charizard related since I hate that thing so it's easy to let go.
The BIGGEST reason why I never invested in older cards is because of this exact possibility as I've seen how well people can fake old figurines that have gone up in price--if they can make THOSE look legit, printed pieces of paper will inevitably be even easier to fake. I've honestly never felt more vindicated.
Also. I had no idea no one had really tried the law enforcement method for this until recently. Hopefully they start using this method more; it's obviously proven to be very useful.
Got a PSA ad while watching 😂
I am appalled that grown ups trade with pieces of paper with cartoon characters on it, for such amount of money. The world is crazy.
I remember being a kid and hated seeing fake cards that were oversized and poor quality. Now? Yeah I'd buy a obviously fake card if I liked the pokemon.
I got out of Pokémon cards in like 2018-2019 when Logan Paul was jacking up all the market values on sets cause he’s famous. I knew one day it wasn’t going to be worth it and all the grading would be worthless. Seems like that’s finally happening
Unfortunately now that the method by which these cards were discovered is public knowledge, future counterfeiters will be sure to set the date on their printer to 1995. It's a mistake they won't make twice.
As soon as you called Logan Paul a scammer, I knew I had to instantly subscribe to your channel. 😂🎉
Absolutely insane video. Crazy I hadn’t even heard of this before
The Pokemon company makes most of their money from kids and low-income households that spend their paychecks scalping new products; the Pokemon CG won't even feel this scandal. All you have to do is watch a couple of videos of the people that will go and get in fistfights at their local Costco whenever a new set comes in.
I’m sorry, but this is just hilarious to me. This is what you get for turning a children’s card game into a speculative asset. Anyone want to buy some Tulips?
My Tom Brady Heisman Trophy just got that much more valuable after viewing this.
Couldn't someone just change the time on their computer before printing? The market will hinge on high end fakes. Once they are identical, the entire game is over.
The dots are a part of the printer's firmware so the computer time isn't related. Changing the time on the printer will work though.
@@ViviSectia thank you, in the age of hacking, there has to be some sensible way to bypass this by some serious would be bad actor right?
I would look into CGC's Terms and Conditions to see if they are even liable. Most grading companies include clauses in the case of forgery protecting them from liability even if they do deem a card to be Authentic.
As an insurance adjuster, I wanted to weigh in on one part. I am sure the insurance company would be involved due to the liability, probably won't bankrupt CGC, but any time there's one of these instances it just erodes trust in these companies.
thats not pokemon collectors....those are some oportunistic scalpers who know nothing of trading card games, just think of them as a means to become rich....well this time backfired
Once again it turns out that grading companies are completely worthless and provide absolutely no service
"oh they are gonna reprint some old cards leaving them costing less than their current price" is what i expect clicking this video, not a full certification fraud and gamefreak confirming some cards are fake
lmfao. the fact that these have any value more than a few bucks shows how dumb we are.
This is insane! I own a TON of CGC graded comics and this just makes me feel so uneasy.
me and you both .....🤢🤢🤢
the grading companies have been proven to be pure BS artists when it came to comics and video games so it’s not a shock that they evolved to being involved in Pokemon cards
"Collectors" like a Logan Paul are what ruined this hobby for me lol. Like I'll open a pack every now and then if I feel like it, but the fact that we even have to deal with something like this it's just pathetic
Creating currency out of cardboard cards. Yeah, this is going to happen.
The very first baseball card authenticated by PSA, a 1909 Honus Wagner T206 tobacco card, turned out years later to have been altered.
That kind of shows you what a bunch of rubbish that card grading is. The grading companies have too much incentive to rubber stamp whatever grade their customer wants.
Lmao hold on, card grading companies don't even check for printer tracking dots? I would have thought that would be one of the first things they'd look for to determine authenticity 🤯
Card collecting and crypto are the same thing. Taking a while for people to realize this , finally getting there
I never collected any Pokemon cards. I only watched the shows.
I collect other cards so this fiasco doesn't bother me. Although all those who have those Pokemon cards will have to see if their watermark is legit now for verification. PSA is ranked as 1, CGC is ranked 2 and Beckett is ranked 3. Regardless, CGC is still a great grading company and Beckett still has their CEO fraud problem of Beckett insurance fraud.
Pfm right now is saying he’s in perfect health loves his life and would never unalive himself
I hope nothing suspicious happens to him
Have to be honest, I could not care less about any adult scammed for Pokeman cards. Their diminished wealth hopefully reduces the likelihood they breed
No, Red and Green came first, then Blue. Red and Green had different graphics, when Blue came out they improved the graphics. Then when the US got the games, they used the Japanese Blue Version as a base.
Luckily this is the first time CGC has being involved in a scam 🙄
people call it a card game yet ive NEVER seen anyone play. i doubt you can find a dozen people who collect pokemon that know how to play
There are 20 people playing at my locals on a weekly basis. People play the game, you just need to know where to look.
They literally have in person TCG competitions, people absolutely play this.
This is why collecting anything that is like antique or even new is not worth it nowadays because there's so many fakes out there are there can be so many bikes out there it's not even worth it no more
People shouldn't be so beholden to corporations for stuff like this, but it's their own fault. No one wants to play a free game with freely printable cards no matter how good the visual and game design is
There's an error early in the video. The original *Japanese* Pocket Monster games were Red and Green, _not_ Red and Blue. Pocket Monsters Blue *is* a real game, but it was an improved version of the originals.
Moreover, *both* Pokémon Red and Blue, the games we received _outside_ of Japan, are based on the Japanese Blue version.
Knew the grading industry was a scam for a while but this is next level.