Cardioid is big shit heard d&b audiotechnik wich are all cardioid and have 1000 woofers in the back and is big shit an lácoustic subs sound better not being cardioid .
Je comprends pas trop le message là, en fait, l'impression que ça me fait c'est d'une, vous faites cowboy, voir mafieux avec des techniques d'intimidation, d'autre part, vous vous rendez vulnérables. Les gens qui utilisent vos produits sont dans le domaine professionnel, il recherchent avant tout une qualité irréprochable, et surtout une équipe a leur service. Vous amenez également pas mal avec les software, etc... Ce que vous faites très bien, je pense. Ce qui explique en partie vos tarifs excessif. Il y a des lois concernant la contrefaçon, et ça doit se passer sur le domaine juridique et exécutif. Dans un contexte actuel ou on parle d'écologie vous passez pour des shlag en plus. Au pire faites bloc commun avec toutes les marques pour faire du lobbying. J'aime beaucoup L'acoustic notamment pour son histoire et les avancées faites notamment avec les incremental et surtout vdosc. Longue vie à l acoustic.
Do you think China is worried about this video, they will always make fakes, there is no point in trying to intimidate, if L Acostic made this video and why is it so bad? or because the aesthetics are so perfect, maybe even the sound goes unnoticed.
Maybe someone can answer me this. I get that flying those uncertified boxes in unsave. But can the sound quality really be that bad? At the end of the day it's just wooden boxes which you can measure and build exactly like the original. Find a good enough driver and you're done. Where is the big difference? Ignoring DSP settings in the amp.
Sometimes it sounds very well but again, the problem here is he said his stuff was legit, tried to take their training course and could produce a single serial. Pretty bold
Making them was not the problem. I dint think they can sue you for making a speaker /box. But the problem was way bigger. They were selling them as originals with logo and everything.
I know this obliviously. I just want to know if those knock-off boxes really sound that bad as they say. At the end of the day, they're just wooden boxes you can measure and rebuild.@@sergeihalabi4996
What if you $pent thou$ands , only to find out it was a fake system ? "It's only a box",,,,,what about the wire used to wind voice coils ? Adhesives used to hold the cone ? Spider ? Magnet ? Can those be seen from outside ?
Totally agree with the destruction. Would love a more informative page on your website for how to spot fakes. From this quick video these look more realistic than I would have thought.
I don't think the Ukrainian workforce is superior to the Chinese. There was no point in breaking all this equipment, which was of very good quality in my opinion.
They are fakes. Would you want to stand under speakers 40’ off the ground that didn’t pass proper safety tests? What about faked amps, you could end up with a fatal shock.
It was totally useless to make a brittle spectacle of material that others have purchased, perhaps even with a quality of finish greater than or equal to yours. Remember that the l- brand makes speakers in mass where there is no need to be too careful. So the finish…… This reinforces my idea of having bought RCF since the start of my investments Whose finish is much superior I am ready to put the sound quality in competition, and I am calm
A video on how to identify fakes would have been much more helpful than this pointless exercise. Also, pls show us how you repurposed the destroyed fakes as furniture etc. as claimed at the end of the video. Until I've seen that I'll say that's just greenwashing!
A video on identifying fakes could be used to improve the fake boxes. Speakers aren’t as intricate as shoes are, so it would be easier to pass fakes through
@@tonygardner4077 Don’t understand why people buy fakes. It’s one thing if theyre on the ground. Still copyright infringement, but when you put them in the air? If you can’t afford real L-Acoustics products than you probably aren’t large enough of a company to own L-Acoustics products. Don’t understand why anyone would take that risk of purchasing fake products.
Man you don't have money for lácustic products so why hell asking a way to identify the original if you never be in the situation to buy them ...🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂
@@yonut7 How do you know? I know plenty of people that are in local bands that have their own LA rig. Also please use proper english cos I can’t understand a word you said
I agree with not counterfeiting products, but those speakers were pretty well built despite not being original. Why destroy something that was already done? Many things could have been rescued. (There was literally no difference compared to the original L-Acoustics models.) The phrase "one man's trash is another man's treasure" makes sense.
I'm not sure about the hate here. If someone took your ideas and hard work, copied your work and defrauded customers (one of you), would you be OK with that. Now it's not as good and people who hear it think it doesn't sound so good and kills your reputation. This is why you can not give it away. You would stand by and do nothing?
This is not a ridiculous way to make a point, its mandatory practice. It´s a good way to show they will hunt you down and destroy everything physically & financially if you fake it. Every brand you own is protect by law and fake/unsafe/not certified products can and most of the time will be destroyed. By the company themselves, a special company or customs. EU Customs alone had 115 million items in 2011, 75% was destroyed in that same year.. This video is not to educate you, its to warn you. And to show the destruction of some "l´acoustics" that makes your stomach do a 360.
This is what should happen with this company... A state of trance Rotterdam. The bass was unbearably hard and if it was the fault of the acoustics, then ok, but if it was the equipment, this company would be closed down
😂😂😂 not all china cheap speakers are bad.I work with Cvr audio line array like 3 years i did never have problem with them.First i was working with Rcf.Price are going to hight!!
Fake speakers and budget speakers are two different things. Fake speakers are never systematically designed, but budget speakers are, at least to some extent. I‘ve heard a pair of fake JBL SRX which sounds like sh*t. That's probably because the cabinet of SRX is designed to be used with low-profile lightweight neodymium speakers which occupies less capacity. When a huge speaker with heavy duty ferrite magnet is placed inside the box, there's no enough space for the speaker to work well. Also, the crossover used on fake speakers are never tuned to match the drivers and the cabinet. Sometimes the tweeter is far more sensitive than the midwoofer, but there's no treble attenuation circuitry on crossover board, so they sounds ear-piercing like a hundred of angle grinders are cutting on your eardrums.
Having a well earned copyright by years of R&D and destroying un-safe/tested/certified counterfeits is called "supremacy".. No man, its called the Law.. Welcome to the real world I guess.. You might as well throw everything away you have in your shed... because all brands do it lol.. Also I am wondering what L-Acoustics you have ever bought lol. EU Customs alone had 115 million items in 2011, 75% was destroyed in that same year..
All the modules seized from the prod. company were counterfeit. All of them were made to look like speakers that were under a patent, making it illegal to own, sell, and purchase.
About safety? Those chinese are not crazy. And the patent on the wst horn solution is expired. So what gives L-acoustics the right to damage al these equipment? Its about money and modelrights. And do you call this recycling? what a joke. I call this revenge and a warning of a big, mighty France company owned by a even bigger Japanese company Yamaha!
Idiot they look the same just put the lácoustic on them and you can pretend you have lacustic and a copy will never have same sound and quality like original .
Meyer is the ONLY pro line array and subwoofer array company I haven’t heard yet. I hear great things. L Acoustics is leagues ahead of all the others though.
Hey! You've unloaded the wrong truck, that stuff was ok ! ?
Was this video mixed on those counterfeit speakers? The "background" music is louder than the people speaking
Lacoustic is great but they now need to upgrade to the new cardioid system with superior rear sound rejection.
cardioid serves for a porpuse, edm music, with backstage will hate cardioid systems, or it will take more speakers to fill the gaps. so..
At what frequency? Also the way the subwoofer array is built (RFF, FRF) will influence both coverage and perceived sound quality.
All speakers push forward on my rigs... its more efficient
Cardioid is big shit heard d&b audiotechnik wich are all cardioid and have 1000 woofers in the back and is big shit an lácoustic subs sound better not being cardioid .
@@tonygardner4077That’s why I like end fire better. It’s also a tighter way to produce bass for the audience while still getting rear rejection.
Je comprends pas trop le message là, en fait, l'impression que ça me fait c'est d'une, vous faites cowboy, voir mafieux avec des techniques d'intimidation, d'autre part, vous vous rendez vulnérables. Les gens qui utilisent vos produits sont dans le domaine professionnel, il recherchent avant tout une qualité irréprochable, et surtout une équipe a leur service. Vous amenez également pas mal avec les software, etc... Ce que vous faites très bien, je pense. Ce qui explique en partie vos tarifs excessif. Il y a des lois concernant la contrefaçon, et ça doit se passer sur le domaine juridique et exécutif. Dans un contexte actuel ou on parle d'écologie vous passez pour des shlag en plus. Au pire faites bloc commun avec toutes les marques pour faire du lobbying. J'aime beaucoup
L'acoustic notamment pour son histoire et les avancées faites notamment avec les incremental et surtout vdosc. Longue vie à l acoustic.
Do you think China is worried about this video, they will always make fakes, there is no point in trying to intimidate, if L Acostic made this video and why is it so bad? or because the aesthetics are so perfect, maybe even the sound goes unnoticed.
Thats what i think. They scared on how good they are and dont like it jeje.
Maybe someone can answer me this. I get that flying those uncertified boxes in unsave. But can the sound quality really be that bad? At the end of the day it's just wooden boxes which you can measure and build exactly like the original. Find a good enough driver and you're done. Where is the big difference? Ignoring DSP settings in the amp.
Sometimes it sounds very well but again, the problem here is he said his stuff was legit, tried to take their training course and could produce a single serial. Pretty bold
Making them was not the problem. I dint think they can sue you for making a speaker /box. But the problem was way bigger. They were selling them as originals with logo and everything.
I know this obliviously. I just want to know if those knock-off boxes really sound that bad as they say. At the end of the day, they're just wooden boxes you can measure and rebuild.@@sergeihalabi4996
What if you $pent thou$ands , only to find out it was a fake system ? "It's only a box",,,,,what about the wire used to wind voice coils ? Adhesives used to hold the cone ? Spider ? Magnet ? Can those be seen from outside ?
Is what im saying. Just over hyped wood lol
Totally agree with the destruction. Would love a more informative page on your website for how to spot fakes. From this quick video these look more realistic than I would have thought.
Over priced gear. Would not buy at those prices!!
If you can't afford than it's not for you 😅. It's a high end line array system they're a reason they're the standard in the concert's.
I don't think the Ukrainian workforce is superior to the Chinese. There was no point in breaking all this equipment, which was of very good quality in my opinion.
If I use an L acoustic box and put a different logo on it, is it okay?
Why was it destroyed?
Counterfeit boxes and amplification. All taken from a company in Miami I believe.
They are fakes. Would you want to stand under speakers 40’ off the ground that didn’t pass proper safety tests? What about faked amps, you could end up with a fatal shock.
Is coming more fake speakers 🔊 I’m sorry for you 😂
It was totally useless to make a brittle spectacle of material that others have purchased, perhaps even with a quality of finish greater than or equal to yours.
Remember that the l- brand makes speakers in mass where there is no need to be too careful. So the finish……
This reinforces my idea of having bought RCF since the start of my investments
Whose finish is much superior
I am ready to put the sound quality in competition, and I am calm
A video on how to identify fakes would have been much more helpful than this pointless exercise. Also, pls show us how you repurposed the destroyed fakes as furniture etc. as claimed at the end of the video. Until I've seen that I'll say that's just greenwashing!
A video on identifying fakes could be used to improve the fake boxes. Speakers aren’t as intricate as shoes are, so it would be easier to pass fakes through
We had fake boxes in with a show the other week... they had plastic inserts for rigging... would work once or twice then would be a liablity
@@tonygardner4077 Don’t understand why people buy fakes. It’s one thing if theyre on the ground. Still copyright infringement, but when you put them in the air? If you can’t afford real L-Acoustics products than you probably aren’t large enough of a company to own L-Acoustics products. Don’t understand why anyone would take that risk of purchasing fake products.
Man you don't have money for lácustic products so why hell asking a way to identify the original if you never be in the situation to buy them ...🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂
@@yonut7 How do you know? I know plenty of people that are in local bands that have their own LA rig. Also please use proper english cos I can’t understand a word you said
Using one gallon gasoline and burning counterfeit product is a good option. But this release too much co2 imprint.
I am working in France on factory, I am doing this loudspeakers.. and this video makes me pain 😄😄😄
I agree with not counterfeiting products, but those speakers were pretty well built despite not being original. Why destroy something that was already done? Many things could have been rescued. (There was literally no difference compared to the original L-Acoustics models.)
The phrase "one man's trash is another man's treasure" makes sense.
Because the guy who owned them was renting them out as real L acoustics.
Because you dont want uncertified, badly built rigging coming down onto a crowd form 40' in the air!
I'm not sure about the hate here. If someone took your ideas and hard work, copied your work and defrauded customers (one of you), would you be OK with that. Now it's not as good and people who hear it think it doesn't sound so good and kills your reputation. This is why you can not give it away. You would stand by and do nothing?
Seems a waste of resources
This is a ridiculous way to make the point.
How about a disection, showing the details of how these products are inferior?
I’d like to see that
So the counterfeiters could make better fakes?
It wouldn't look as different inside as they'd have you believe
This is not a ridiculous way to make a point, its mandatory practice. It´s a good way to show they will hunt you down and destroy everything physically & financially if you fake it. Every brand you own is protect by law and fake/unsafe/not certified products can and most of the time will be destroyed. By the company themselves, a special company or customs. EU Customs alone had 115 million items in 2011, 75% was destroyed in that same year.. This video is not to educate you, its to warn you. And to show the destruction of some "l´acoustics" that makes your stomach do a 360.
at first they wanted to do that. but those forged ones turned out to be too good
Лучше бы мне отдали
L for L acoustics
Ok..but which brand was it ACTUALLY tho?!👀👀😂😂
7 sounds in FL
This is what should happen with this company... A state of trance Rotterdam. The bass was unbearably hard and if it was the fault of the acoustics, then ok, but if it was the equipment, this company would be closed down
Yeah! Shit products! If only they had software to modify the sound and training to educate the operators!
Very good. But still somehow hurts to watch 😅
wonderful
One of the cringiest pr stunts I’ve ever seen.
😂😂😂 not all china cheap speakers are bad.I work with Cvr audio line array like 3 years i did never have problem with them.First i was working with Rcf.Price are going to hight!!
At least better than Be*******ger.
Fake speakers and budget speakers are two different things. Fake speakers are never systematically designed, but budget speakers are, at least to some extent.
I‘ve heard a pair of fake JBL SRX which sounds like sh*t. That's probably because the cabinet of SRX is designed to be used with low-profile lightweight neodymium speakers which occupies less capacity. When a huge speaker with heavy duty ferrite magnet is placed inside the box, there's no enough space for the speaker to work well.
Also, the crossover used on fake speakers are never tuned to match the drivers and the cabinet. Sometimes the tweeter is far more sensitive than the midwoofer, but there's no treble attenuation circuitry on crossover board, so they sounds ear-piercing like a hundred of angle grinders are cutting on your eardrums.
Just recycle it properly
I will never buy an l'acoustics product again after watching this video. To hell with your supremacy
Having a well earned copyright by years of R&D and destroying un-safe/tested/certified counterfeits is called "supremacy".. No man, its called the Law.. Welcome to the real world I guess.. You might as well throw everything away you have in your shed... because all brands do it lol.. Also I am wondering what L-Acoustics you have ever bought lol. EU Customs alone had 115 million items in 2011, 75% was destroyed in that same year..
How the hell you to ever buy those cost more than a house idiot :))))
L acoustics is too expensive and your product are delicate . D&b is better
Its all about preference🤷
I think l acoustic better d&b.
They work together now 🎉
Both are good tho, it's based on artists preference
D&B is good, but not in the same league as L Acoustics.
A sect in action! Only join the ligit Cult!🤣
L Acoustics sounds TERRIBLE! EXTREMELY harsh high mids and treble. Martin Audio is wayyy better..
Fbt italy
Excellent and perfect
Could have donated somewhere
All the modules seized from the prod. company were counterfeit. All of them were made to look like speakers that were under a patent, making it illegal to own, sell, and purchase.
😢
You're just making more waste than you already are.
Made in china it's different class
That hurts seeing them all smashed up, could have donated them to local community centres…
You didn't understand a single word in this video, did you?
I completely understand thank you, just voicing my opinion which I’m entitled too.
no it makes L-Acoustics look bad if people use counterfeits and associate them with the legitimate manufacturer. Also they wanted to make a statement
Always china. Lol.
About safety? Those chinese are not crazy. And the patent on the wst horn solution is expired. So what gives L-acoustics the right to damage al these equipment? Its about money and modelrights. And do you call this recycling? what a joke. I call this revenge and a warning of a big, mighty France company owned by a even bigger Japanese company Yamaha!
Idiot they look the same just put the lácoustic on them and you can pretend you have lacustic and a copy will never have same sound and quality like original .
Any fake should be treated like this. Copying and putting another brand … ok … that’s how Behringer started … using falsified gear is a double crime.
Why ??
are you serios asking that :))) 🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂
L Acoustics is the best
no, Meyer sound
Meyer is the ONLY pro line array and subwoofer array company I haven’t heard yet. I hear great things. L Acoustics is leagues ahead of all the others though.
au moins récupérez les roulettes, c'est très limite votre video là...
Very Nice 🔥🔥
Just you can recycle...