So its as follows. Pull for Sunday if: - you're invested on Break but don't intend to switch HMC to RMC. - you didn't and/or won't invest on Break. - you're investing on using characters with summons (existing and upcoming). - you REALLY like the character and want to use him in game. Pull for Fugue if: - you're invested on Break and switching HMC to RMC. - you didn't pull for Jiaoqiu and are lacking another Nihility character that synergises w/ Acheron. - you're crazy enough to run a Mono-Fire team (Firefly implanting Fire weakness is busted). - you REALLY like the character and want to use her in game. *edit: Just fixed some typos.
@@Wilson-zu3rf He's not on my priority list for a few reasons: - I currently have Robin, Bronya and Ruan Mei so I'm in not in a rush to pick up another Harmony unit anytime soon. - We still don't have any official info regarding RMC apart from them having a summon (I don't actively look at leaks and never will thanks to Pokemon leakers). - We don't know when the next Super Break enabler character will be released, but we do know that we will most definitely get another character that buffs summons because thats the new planet's "flavour". I'd rather get Fugue to soldify my break team/s instead of switching between HMC and RMC. I will pull for Sunday if he does roll back again and we still don't have any other characters that buff summons, but knowing Hoyo, I think its highly unlikely they won't do so.
@@Snackie15910 It really depends on what teams you currently have in your account. If you joined around 2.4 and pulled for any of the characters released from then on , suggest you follow EOD's advice and invest on Sunday and the upcoming Remembrance characters. I wouldn't suggest pulling for Jing Yuan solely because you need a character that has summons. Sunday works just like Bronya and Sparkle, so you can use any Crit DPS you have for now and wait for Aglaea (or The Herta if she does have summons as part of her kit). Now if you have an E0 Acheron as your current main DPS, then that's a trickier scenario. I would still suggest you still pull for Sunday instead of Fugue if you have Pela or another debuffing Nihility character. You could potentially use your 5* selector ticket for Welt and make him a sub-DPS w/ high EHR. If you have no Nihility characters at your disposal at all, then I would say pull for Fugue as a last resort. At best, Fugue is an additional Nihility for to fulfill Acheron's passive and offers her faster Breaks through her skill to have the target ignore the enemies' elements. You could then either wait until you pull or Pela or use your selector ticket for Welt to fill the 2 Nihility requirement. Hope this was somewhat helpful to you!
Honestly one of the better account reviews. This actually helps people. It’s not the typical “look at how much this person spent” or “why is your Yanquing using a break build”
why do so many people act like summon is gonna be the only meta in 3.X, in 2.X we got acheron then firefly then feixiao 3 completely different "metas". Acheron's team still has a hole in it because of no nihility sustain, and superbreak team is gonna get the final puzzle piece with fugue soon and follow up is already completed
i think it's not even that, some people might simply just want to enjoy new things presented by the game lol it's just interesting to pull on summon units cause it's a new mechanic and is gonna be fun compared to what we're already used to. hoyoverse will also introduce summon meta to keep the hype of the game and have more players pull for summon units. idk why the playerbase are denying some people improvement in the game by questioning new things just cause people have already gotten used to or are hoping for older units to still uphold their value. i still main all the high cloud quintet since release, it's still fun to play the game and clear all game modes even as complete f2p and with summon it's gonna be refreshing. old units never lose value as long as the people who pulled them enjoy playing them and know how to build them well to keep up with content.
Honestly true, but I think the upcoming while will be "heavy" with rememberance and summons to "fill out the roster" That being said, I dont have anyone to use sunday with rn (altho ive always been tempted to get jing yuan on his reruns because I like him and LL visually and character) because im *hoping* the FATE crossover will actually be mage+summoned hero instead of just seperate
So I agree. I think it's because of hoyos history. Hyper carry used to be meta. Hell it was borderline required to play hyper carry back then. Then hyper carry fell off a cliff minus I guess acheron if you wanna count that. Now super break is meta and busted. So people assume when hoyo pushes summon and hyper carry again, super break falls off a cliff. Even if that is the case, it will be quite a while before that happens since they about to give us fugue. No shot they give us 5 star fugue and super break dies in a couple months. But yeah, we will see but I think break will be fine. Not meta, just fine.
Because its the first one being cooked, but of course it wont be the only one, but the point here is fugue vs sunday, fugue is for an archetype that dies in 3.x, you know summon meta is one of the archetypes that hoyo is gonna shill + another one hence sunday value being way higher, there is no acting here its just common sense, if you pull fugue its because you really like break despite knowing its gonna have the same fate as hypercarrys in 2.x, its that simple, they are literally giving you fugue so you can turn HMC into RMC and not kill your break team, its so easy to notice.
@@cristianfg20 so there is the issue right there. "archetype that DIES in 3.0." When you say that, that comes off as tier 4 garbage. I highly doubt that will be the case. More than likely it will be similar to DOT where its just ok. It aint meta, but you can clear end game with DOT just fine. I do with my Kafka and freakin Sampo. If someone wants truly meta top tier stuff? go sunday. Summons will be busted. But no, I highly doubt they release Fugue, 3.0 hits, and break teams go down with Natasha in the darkness. lmao its just they wont be meta anymore. Thats all. To suggest summon meta is "the only meta" is a huge exaggeration. But we will see. Hoyo may power creep even harder than normal.
I'm going Sunday for sure (I love Jing Yuan), but unfortunately Fugue would be a good pickup for me as well (I run Boothill and Himeko break). The best plan for me meta-wise would be pulling both and skipping 3.0 to save but that's so tough....
@@tyran8165because she doesnt apply her own imaginary weakness, so it takes longer to break enemies' weakness and win charges for her, but with Fugue's exo toughness, you break weaknesses faster, winning more charges for her ulti and faster
The main issue I have is I will have an E4 Bronya and I am pretty sure that Sunday has energy issues. I use a lot of break as well. So while Bronya won't be able to carry remembrance units summons, I do think that my Robin + Ruan Mei + Tingyun + Jiaoqiu + Pela should be able to make up for my lack of Sunday.
Tbf, if you are fine not getting sunday. It might be a good investment to just go for his LC. Tho that's dependent on how accurate the leaks are on his LC. But from what i've seen, the passive of his LC is definitely useable for Units like Tingyun and Bronya.
its funny how people keep coping about sunday powercreep (mostly waifu fans who dont want him on their team), when every leaks are indicating that Tribbie (the next harmony) wont really be a summon support.
Sunday is a dead pull gamble bro. He has uses for hypercarry or 1.0 dps. It's an easy skip and pick up on rerun if his BiS team is good and you wanna pull it.
They just dont know but its so obvious to notice that sunday will have his own bis summon team while tribbie will be the harmony of mydei+castorice, this "sunday is just sparkle waiting to be powecrept by 3.x robin" is so dumb when the info is literally on your face lmao
You know there's gonna be so many posts about "I want to play Aglaea/other pretty lady summon character but I hate Sunday"... bro welcome to the trenches, personally I already did my sacrifice and resentfully pulled Ruan Mei for Boothill
Just also a reminder that Fugue can also support Summons if they can also do super break, since Fugue super break is a passive field and not a buff like HMC.
@@ArcDraws Remembrance path summon unit on the field. You can buff it like any other unit. On special program stream, Aventurine shield Trailblazer summon
@@Delopresh Aventurine skill was recently buffed in 3.0 beta yes, but that does not apply to all skills, like Robin, Ruan Mei and Bronya ult and skills does not affect and cannot target summons. But they may rework that.
I'm going to pull E1S1 (maybe E2) Fugue and then Herta. I am going to be doing a "wait and see" approach with regards to Summon/3.0 meta. I have an eidolon invested Break Team and an eidolon invested FUA team, so I am very much in a place where I don't need to buy into the next meta right away. My current teams are going to be basically are maximum synergy, fully capable of clearing everything for quite a while. Of the announced 3.0 characters, I am interested in: The Herta, Castorice and Cipher. So, my current plan is to get Fugue with Eidolons to finish maximizing my Break Team, get The Herta as an "I like this character and will find a use for her" pull, and then wait to see who I need to pull to maximize Castorice/Cipher. If Sunday ends up being necessary for either of those teams, then I will get Sunday on his rerun to maximize those teams.
Okay sunday may be the first gateway for summon meta,but what people forget the exo toughness fugue has is universal buff to some dps already available. Like break% given by her to party, dps like acheron can reach even better damage. Then again, who knows exactly about the future. Lets see when they all been tested through and through :)
I might skip 2.7 because I'm not sure whether 3.x is rly summons meta as in every character that will be released are for summons teams (like ruan mei&robin release -> every break&FuA characters). There can be a chance that Rememberance is similar to Nihility, so summons is the key feature of the character, while they can support a different team (like current Lingsha).
it's been about one year since I've been seriously playing HSR, but I'm not as fully fleshed out as the first account (I'm f2p and can take breaks). for latest moc, i can clear up to floor 10-11 (maybe more, but not with 3* for 11 or 12), a decent amount of apocalyptic, and am not great at pure fiction. i have a black swan, blade, feixiao, aven, luocha, ruan mei, ratio, clara, HMC, and a few 4* s that are semi-built. i am leaning towards Sunday as my second limited harmony character. i have some investment in break + f/up, but am not all in for either. guess it makes sense for me to just prepare for the next meta. 👍 i would love a proper, limited erudition character, but pulling jade never worked out for me, and i do not have the funds for The Herta. maybe next time.
I am not going for Summon characters, but I'm really tempted to pull for Sunday. My Yunli is Robinless after losing both her 50/50. I could use my guarantee on him until she reruns. But I'm also torn to get my FF to E2...
For now, sunday is a better choice. But going forward it might get reversed. Fugue is the last batch of break support, so most likely there will be no support for break style anytime soon. Sunday on the other hand is the first batch of summon style support, making him in a rather “fragile” position since IF HYV release team wide summon support, he will be powercrept. Not to mention, most “apex” support is a team wide support, not a hypercarry support, and sadly sunday is leaning toward hypercarry playstyle.
The thing is, they absolutely will not be releasing a Robin for summons, because she was already a mistake. Potentially providing action advance to SIX allies is absurd and will never make it into the game. At best we get a Ruan Mei for summons, no action advance but maybe teamwide other types of buffs. Edit: forgot to make my actual point. Sunday will probably be the only action advance for summons for a long time so he will always have a niche
@@naw613or they can release a character that only advance forward summon while itself also deploy summon. So it advance forward 4 “character” simultaneously
@@dewanegara8333 oh okay, better to wait for aglaea kit details then to see if she works better with sunday or rmc, cause even as someone who uses jy if they release a teamwide summon harmony, that would be like having a 2nd superbreak
I don't think many people will switch Harmony to RMC simply put, both destruction and preservation SUX, so much that Harmony was the only one who saved Trailblazer. So either RMC makes MC a meta character, which I doubt. the way DPSer are treated in this game, it is like they either needs to be totally broken like Firefly or have so much investment like Acheron that makes the character really worthless for other teams. Fei Xiao was a change, cause the way she works for followup, her kit is really well tuned to ignore def and toughness. so even if enemies have Wind Resistance, she still can do some damage and her ultimate counts as followup attack. Anyway it doesn't matter it seems HSR community is wierd too much invested into future characters then present and working characters. so much investment that they just want their favorite to be meta even if all the signs shows it isn't. the amount of FLOP characters released outweigh the real META or Good Characters at E0.
Me right now: Own no break premiums. Hate break as a concept. Hate all the break characters so far on a personality level (Firefly/Boothill/Rappa). Knows Fugue's full and incomplete kit. Still going to pull Fugue. The tails must be floofed (no more E6 though).
Just today I got Aven at 81 pity winning my 50/50 & becoming full broke, So, I don't think I'll be able to pull on any banner for quite some time. Hence, 3.0 here we come.
In fact you probably need Fugue and Sunday for meta reasons : - Fugue to replace HMC for the break team so that the MC will be available for Remembrance and Summon meta without compromising the break team. - Sunday, probably the most important here, to prepare for summons with Aglea ^^ But, if you have Rappa, you dont quite need Fugue since your break team will work well enough I think since you would need her only when your mandatory second team is Summon team with the MC, in the case RMC is meta of course. If RMC is not meta or when you don't need to use Break and Summon for your two teams then yes you need either Rappa or Fugue (probably way better than Rappa ofc) Sunday is more important, taking the slot of Ruan Mei as the Harmony character we get right before a new world he is obviously going to be relevant for a long time. And we wont have any replacement for him in a long time. First summons teams are prob going to be : Aglea, RMC, Sunday and Lingsha. I will go for Sunday and Aglea, I will run some test with Rappa instead of HMC but will prob skip Fugue for Aglea and getting funds for her and her LC and other Amphoreus characters.
Love this content, I recently came back to the game and I would love to do a post so you can revew my account, when woul be the next video about this? 👏
If I have the three premium armonies should I still pull for Sunday? I am asking this because I like Aglaea desing and would like to get her, but I need Fugue for my break team too.
I need Kafka for dot and Sunday for summoner. I have Robin for FUA, and Ruan Mei and HMC for break. I don't need Fugue right now since I only have Boothill anyways, and HMC works fine. I'm going for Sunday since he has a ton of potential outside of being a summoner support. I'm also going for all of these specific metas because the game modes and enemies are always changing and you need a good roster that fits every fight. (Like when dot was the hype and I couldn't even beat MOC 11 and 12, or when FUA was hype and it took me the whole day to finish MOC 12 and more.) I was gonna go for Fugue after Sunday, but Phainon/Kevin changed all my plans...
Worth noting that half the 2.x accounts don't really have anything to actually run with Sunday with that's not terrible. I.e. you need to have pulled a non big 3 team in 2.0. (yunli, boothill or 1.x reruns). I guess early 2.x account could run hyper carry ratio, assuming they are using the rest of their FUA team on feixiao?
My 2 main teams are E6S1 FF, HMC, E2S0 RM, E2S0 Lingsha and E3S1 DHIL, E2S2 Sparkle, E6DDD Tingyu and E0S1 HuoHuo got BladeE0S1 Jingliu E0S0 and our general at E0S1 and all the standard chars with some eidolons. Should i even pull? Maybe Sunday for JY but I don't care about remembrance and the pet/summon meta at all.
Still such a hard pick. I got both FF and FARM team (started on FF banner) and really wanna invest in summon comp so Sunday seems like the best option. I really want Fugue too, but I think I'm gonna have to give up on her considering I wanna try for both The Herta and Aglea too. After that it's just saving for Mydei and Fate collab
If you're not planning to pull Aglaea next patch, there is really no reason to pull Sunday right now, where as Fugue will benefit your super break team instantly having immediate value . Personally I believe Sunday will be a better pull on a rerun once more summon units are out and he can prove his value by then if he is worth it or not.
Im pretty stuck right now, im a Ratio (E1S1 with Aven E1S1, RobinE0S1, SilverE1S0) max 70k dmg and Firefly (E1S0, HMC, Lingsha, Gallagher E2) 100k main and im stuck between picking Sunday or Fugue... considering Rememberance path is coming upL(
If team 1 is E6 Acheron, Ruan Mei, Pela & Fu Xuan & team 2 is Dr. Ratio, Topaz, Aventurine, & Robin, then who’s best to pull? Or is starting a new team archetype better?
It’s worth investing into break because we still have yet to see more break oriented supports. There’s two dps with boothill and firefly and arguably say there’s now three supports with HMC, Ruan Mei, and Fugue. If you have firefly I think it’s better to save for Ruan because she brings more benefit to break than fugue in this case because you don’t have either. Ruan mei might also rerun because she becomes important to the stories later on. Do you have a break sustain like Gallagher? What’s his eidolon?
@o00o45 Thank you for answering my question. Yes, I do have Gallagher and his eidiolon is e1. My account isn't far behind because I also have a feixiao and robin team. I will keep in watch for furture versions and beyond :)
My F2P account has DOT meta team + Rappa, so I might pull for Fugue to solidify Rap team. My another account has no break, but has Acheron, FART and Yunli teams, so there I might want to invest into new Summoner meta and pull for Mr. Sunday, since my F2P has already gotten into superbreak.
It's not that hard. For Sunday, just pull on his rerun when the summon dps starts appearing in 3.x. For Fugue, only pull if you have superbreak meta team.
I've to see how Aglaea work to see if Sunday worth it, cause right now he only good for JY. As for Fugue, she a side grade of HTB, so I can skip for now. Tbh, skip both of them is not a bad option either.
help! I am a very new player. I have Acheron Pela Guinaifen Aventurine & Rappa Harmony MC Asta Gallagher So I have an okay Acheron team (I have her S1 and Aventurine is E1S1) But my Rappa team is half-baked at best. But Fugue would help with Rappa's shortcomings... Should I invest into Sunday and remembrance or get Fugue for Rappa?
If you're investing in Acheron's team it's worth paying attention to Fugue. I'm waiting to see her final kit details to be sure but I'm considering swapping Pela out for Fugue in my Acheron team. She's Nihility so even good in E0 Acheron teams, the character buffed by Fugue can apply defense debuffs and iirc exo toughness break means more applications of the break debuffs to charge Acheron's ult.
@@entropyembrace i was thinking to get fugue for acheron too but i want to know when jiaoqiu will rerun cuz i will prioritize him over fugue maybe if he come back later i can try to get both of them...right now i have 110 pulls with no guarantee, do u think i can save enough for both?
@@rajeshappalasawmy3667 Hard to say, he doesn't synergize with any 3.0 characters and no one is predicting a Jiaoqiu rerun so he's not likely to be coming back soon but it does take a long time to save up a guarantee too.
I believe we are getting a better sunday for summon meta. Just remember how fast sparkle got powercrept when robin came out with aoe action advance. Also it doesn't help that he is a male and male characters will always be powercrept by strong independent white females(aventurine being the only exception for now).
The way I see it- Sunday now would be an asset only for 1yr+ old or under 2 weeks new player. Old cos all content is already cleared & you have surplus resources saved up to build up a completely new team from scratch. New cos you'd have all the first clear jades & tons of resources yet to earn & invest. Sunday is a liability, atleast a short term significant resource drain for those that are in the middle- already invested a decent amount to current meta, almost finishing up their 1st/2nd team and so have recently emptied out their jades/resources. The summon meta will take atleast 4+ months to fully mature. So even if Sunday is the Robin/Ruan Mei of that meta, their feixiao/Firefly will come out much later. Which means you're wasting your very limited resources on a char from an untested meta who is also far from his best. Not to mention, are you sure Sunday is the Robin? or just the Sparkle? Additionally, if summon is worth all that expensive investment over your already invested follow up/break, then you'd still be on time to pick up everything with the main summon dps. By then, you'd know for sure if summon is just an alternative or an upgrade. Finally, the biggest point for middle players is- rather than spending on yet to mature Sunday and the likely weaker new meta intro chars, you could invest on already tried & tested T0s- cream of the crop of the current metas. That way, not only are you not wasting all your investments so far but building up on that enough to clear all the upcoming content till the new meta replaces the current (unlikely but in the worst case scenario that actually happens) That would ensure you'll have enough to invest by the time the new meta shows its true tested worthiness and nearing its peak maturity. And those, my friends, are my very serious & sincere "considerations" for picking up my waifu Firefly & Fugue 🤣 Jokes aside, I do have a finished Feixiao team and Firefly & Fugue would massively upgrade my 2nd break lingsha team & 3rd Acheron team respectively. So yes, current Sunday is an easy skip for me.
So its as follows.
Pull for Sunday if:
- you're invested on Break but don't intend to switch HMC to RMC.
- you didn't and/or won't invest on Break.
- you're investing on using characters with summons (existing and upcoming).
- you REALLY like the character and want to use him in game.
Pull for Fugue if:
- you're invested on Break and switching HMC to RMC.
- you didn't pull for Jiaoqiu and are lacking another Nihility character that synergises w/ Acheron.
- you're crazy enough to run a Mono-Fire team (Firefly implanting Fire weakness is busted).
- you REALLY like the character and want to use her in game.
*edit: Just fixed some typos.
This is me.
Don't you want sunday for RMC?
@@Wilson-zu3rf He's not on my priority list for a few reasons:
- I currently have Robin, Bronya and Ruan Mei so I'm in not in a rush to pick up another Harmony unit anytime soon.
- We still don't have any official info regarding RMC apart from them having a summon (I don't actively look at leaks and never will thanks to Pokemon leakers).
- We don't know when the next Super Break enabler character will be released, but we do know that we will most definitely get another character that buffs summons because thats the new planet's "flavour". I'd rather get Fugue to soldify my break team/s instead of switching between HMC and RMC.
I will pull for Sunday if he does roll back again and we still don't have any other characters that buff summons, but knowing Hoyo, I think its highly unlikely they won't do so.
Now what if i havent invested in break 😒 im a newer player and dont even have ruan mei
@@Snackie15910 It really depends on what teams you currently have in your account. If you joined around 2.4 and pulled for any of the characters released from then on , suggest you follow EOD's advice and invest on Sunday and the upcoming Remembrance characters. I wouldn't suggest pulling for Jing Yuan solely because you need a character that has summons. Sunday works just like Bronya and Sparkle, so you can use any Crit DPS you have for now and wait for Aglaea (or The Herta if she does have summons as part of her kit).
Now if you have an E0 Acheron as your current main DPS, then that's a trickier scenario. I would still suggest you still pull for Sunday instead of Fugue if you have Pela or another debuffing Nihility character. You could potentially use your 5* selector ticket for Welt and make him a sub-DPS w/ high EHR. If you have no Nihility characters at your disposal at all, then I would say pull for Fugue as a last resort. At best, Fugue is an additional Nihility for to fulfill Acheron's passive and offers her faster Breaks through her skill to have the target ignore the enemies' elements. You could then either wait until you pull or Pela or use your selector ticket for Welt to fill the 2 Nihility requirement.
Hope this was somewhat helpful to you!
Honestly one of the better account reviews. This actually helps people. It’s not the typical “look at how much this person spent” or “why is your Yanquing using a break build”
why do so many people act like summon is gonna be the only meta in 3.X, in 2.X we got acheron then firefly then feixiao 3 completely different "metas". Acheron's team still has a hole in it because of no nihility sustain, and superbreak team is gonna get the final puzzle piece with fugue soon and follow up is already completed
i think it's not even that, some people might simply just want to enjoy new things presented by the game lol it's just interesting to pull on summon units cause it's a new mechanic and is gonna be fun compared to what we're already used to.
hoyoverse will also introduce summon meta to keep the hype of the game and have more players pull for summon units. idk why the playerbase are denying some people improvement in the game by questioning new things just cause people have already gotten used to or are hoping for older units to still uphold their value.
i still main all the high cloud quintet since release, it's still fun to play the game and clear all game modes even as complete f2p and with summon it's gonna be refreshing.
old units never lose value as long as the people who pulled them enjoy playing them and know how to build them well to keep up with content.
Honestly true, but I think the upcoming while will be "heavy" with rememberance and summons to "fill out the roster"
That being said, I dont have anyone to use sunday with rn (altho ive always been tempted to get jing yuan on his reruns because I like him and LL visually and character) because im *hoping* the FATE crossover will actually be mage+summoned hero instead of just seperate
So I agree. I think it's because of hoyos history. Hyper carry used to be meta. Hell it was borderline required to play hyper carry back then. Then hyper carry fell off a cliff minus I guess acheron if you wanna count that. Now super break is meta and busted.
So people assume when hoyo pushes summon and hyper carry again, super break falls off a cliff. Even if that is the case, it will be quite a while before that happens since they about to give us fugue. No shot they give us 5 star fugue and super break dies in a couple months. But yeah, we will see but I think break will be fine. Not meta, just fine.
Because its the first one being cooked, but of course it wont be the only one, but the point here is fugue vs sunday, fugue is for an archetype that dies in 3.x, you know summon meta is one of the archetypes that hoyo is gonna shill + another one hence sunday value being way higher, there is no acting here its just common sense, if you pull fugue its because you really like break despite knowing its gonna have the same fate as hypercarrys in 2.x, its that simple, they are literally giving you fugue so you can turn HMC into RMC and not kill your break team, its so easy to notice.
@@cristianfg20 so there is the issue right there. "archetype that DIES in 3.0." When you say that, that comes off as tier 4 garbage. I highly doubt that will be the case. More than likely it will be similar to DOT where its just ok. It aint meta, but you can clear end game with DOT just fine. I do with my Kafka and freakin Sampo.
If someone wants truly meta top tier stuff? go sunday. Summons will be busted. But no, I highly doubt they release Fugue, 3.0 hits, and break teams go down with Natasha in the darkness. lmao its just they wont be meta anymore. Thats all. To suggest summon meta is "the only meta" is a huge exaggeration. But we will see. Hoyo may power creep even harder than normal.
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Me, as long as there is no new DoT characters or support I ain't changing it
I'm going Sunday for sure (I love Jing Yuan), but unfortunately Fugue would be a good pickup for me as well (I run Boothill and Himeko break). The best plan for me meta-wise would be pulling both and skipping 3.0 to save but that's so tough....
I have a heavily invested FF and Rappa. With Caelus going Remeberance, I'll grab Fugue. Def, Sunday re_run for my JY.
Rappa definitely needs Fugue
Any Break team needs Fugue, especially if you're not using HMC.
@@trapchan386how does she benefit from her more than others?
@@tyran8165because she doesnt apply her own imaginary weakness, so it takes longer to break enemies' weakness and win charges for her, but with Fugue's exo toughness, you break weaknesses faster, winning more charges for her ulti and faster
I’m pulling for Fugue because pretty fox lady
although im not rolling this is so real and based
Same hereee
Also because I just like pulling for the characters I think are cool
Based 🗿
The main issue I have is I will have an E4 Bronya and I am pretty sure that Sunday has energy issues.
I use a lot of break as well.
So while Bronya won't be able to carry remembrance units summons, I do think that my Robin + Ruan Mei + Tingyun + Jiaoqiu + Pela should be able to make up for my lack of Sunday.
Tbf, if you are fine not getting sunday. It might be a good investment to just go for his LC.
Tho that's dependent on how accurate the leaks are on his LC.
But from what i've seen, the passive of his LC is definitely useable for Units like Tingyun and Bronya.
E1 Lingsha, great Jack of All trades for many team archetypes.
Fugue is the no brainer pick for me. I'll probably try getting sunday on his rerun if i like the new path with Aglaea and RMC.
That's exactly my thought process and how most people should be thinking
My brain: You don't have any investment into break, go all in for Sunday and move on.
My heart: Boothill exists.
its funny how people keep coping about sunday powercreep (mostly waifu fans who dont want him on their team), when every leaks are indicating that Tribbie (the next harmony) wont really be a summon support.
Personally i think sunday is safe until 3.3.
Going forward, i am not too sure
Sunday is a dead pull gamble bro. He has uses for hypercarry or 1.0 dps. It's an easy skip and pick up on rerun if his BiS team is good and you wanna pull it.
They just dont know but its so obvious to notice that sunday will have his own bis summon team while tribbie will be the harmony of mydei+castorice, this "sunday is just sparkle waiting to be powecrept by 3.x robin" is so dumb when the info is literally on your face lmao
@@cristianfg20 if hoyo really want sunday to be op like rm/robin then they should buff him more like full team buff instead of one.
You know there's gonna be so many posts about "I want to play Aglaea/other pretty lady summon character but I hate Sunday"... bro welcome to the trenches, personally I already did my sacrifice and resentfully pulled Ruan Mei for Boothill
I love these new video formats EOD!
Just also a reminder that Fugue can also support Summons if they can also do super break, since Fugue super break is a passive field and not a buff like HMC.
Thats true, after all remembrance Is a new path and summons Is just their common thing, a remembrance could also do super break, who knows?
HMC ult is also field buff.
@@Delopresh unless specified on the skill description (like Sunday's); you can't buff/heal/shield summons.
@@ArcDraws Remembrance path summon unit on the field. You can buff it like any other unit. On special program stream, Aventurine shield Trailblazer summon
@@Delopresh Aventurine skill was recently buffed in 3.0 beta yes, but that does not apply to all skills, like Robin, Ruan Mei and Bronya ult and skills does not affect and cannot target summons. But they may rework that.
I'm going to pull E1S1 (maybe E2) Fugue and then Herta. I am going to be doing a "wait and see" approach with regards to Summon/3.0 meta. I have an eidolon invested Break Team and an eidolon invested FUA team, so I am very much in a place where I don't need to buy into the next meta right away. My current teams are going to be basically are maximum synergy, fully capable of clearing everything for quite a while. Of the announced 3.0 characters, I am interested in: The Herta, Castorice and Cipher. So, my current plan is to get Fugue with Eidolons to finish maximizing my Break Team, get The Herta as an "I like this character and will find a use for her" pull, and then wait to see who I need to pull to maximize Castorice/Cipher. If Sunday ends up being necessary for either of those teams, then I will get Sunday on his rerun to maximize those teams.
Okay sunday may be the first gateway for summon meta,but what people forget the exo toughness fugue has is universal buff to some dps already available.
Like break% given by her to party, dps like acheron can reach even better damage.
Then again, who knows exactly about the future. Lets see when they all been tested through and through :)
love the gacha unc raid, super wholesome
I'm gonna get Tingyun, then Herta, and if i still have rolls i'll try to get Tribbie.
sunday easily
I might skip 2.7 because I'm not sure whether 3.x is rly summons meta as in every character that will be released are for summons teams (like ruan mei&robin release -> every break&FuA characters). There can be a chance that Rememberance is similar to Nihility, so summons is the key feature of the character, while they can support a different team (like current Lingsha).
it's been about one year since I've been seriously playing HSR, but I'm not as fully fleshed out as the first account (I'm f2p and can take breaks). for latest moc, i can clear up to floor 10-11 (maybe more, but not with 3* for 11 or 12), a decent amount of apocalyptic, and am not great at pure fiction.
i have a black swan, blade, feixiao, aven, luocha, ruan mei, ratio, clara, HMC, and a few 4* s that are semi-built. i am leaning towards Sunday as my second limited harmony character. i have some investment in break + f/up, but am not all in for either. guess it makes sense for me to just prepare for the next meta. 👍 i would love a proper, limited erudition character, but pulling jade never worked out for me, and i do not have the funds for The Herta. maybe next time.
I am not going for Summon characters, but I'm really tempted to pull for Sunday. My Yunli is Robinless after losing both her 50/50. I could use my guarantee on him until she reruns. But I'm also torn to get my FF to E2...
For now, sunday is a better choice.
But going forward it might get reversed.
Fugue is the last batch of break support, so most likely there will be no support for break style anytime soon.
Sunday on the other hand is the first batch of summon style support, making him in a rather “fragile” position since IF HYV release team wide summon support, he will be powercrept.
Not to mention, most “apex” support is a team wide support, not a hypercarry support, and sadly sunday is leaning toward hypercarry playstyle.
The thing is, they absolutely will not be releasing a Robin for summons, because she was already a mistake. Potentially providing action advance to SIX allies is absurd and will never make it into the game.
At best we get a Ruan Mei for summons, no action advance but maybe teamwide other types of buffs.
Edit: forgot to make my actual point. Sunday will probably be the only action advance for summons for a long time so he will always have a niche
@@naw613
not exactly true, leaks show another harmony unit so im holding out
@@naw613or they can release a character that only advance forward summon while itself also deploy summon.
So it advance forward 4 “character” simultaneously
@@dapper-alcremie460the rumor said the one in early 3.ish harmony won’t support summon mechanism.
But 3.3 forward i can’t say for sure
@@dewanegara8333
oh okay, better to wait for aglaea kit details then to see if she works better with sunday or rmc, cause even as someone who uses jy if they release a teamwide summon harmony, that would be like having a 2nd superbreak
rolling sunday. i feel like my king of heroes gilgamesh is gonna be part of this new meta so im hoping it pays off in the end.
I don't think many people will switch Harmony to RMC simply put, both destruction and preservation SUX, so much that Harmony was the only one who saved Trailblazer.
So either RMC makes MC a meta character, which I doubt. the way DPSer are treated in this game, it is like they either needs to be totally broken like Firefly or have so much investment like Acheron that makes the character really worthless for other teams. Fei Xiao was a change, cause the way she works for followup, her kit is really well tuned to ignore def and toughness. so even if enemies have Wind Resistance, she still can do some damage and her ultimate counts as followup attack.
Anyway it doesn't matter it seems HSR community is wierd too much invested into future characters then present and working characters. so much investment that they just want their favorite to be meta even if all the signs shows it isn't. the amount of FLOP characters released outweigh the real META or Good Characters at E0.
I have Jingyuan, no hesitation in pulling for Sunday.
What's the hype around RMC, for all we know, they're mid...
We don't know that yet..
Remembrance being a new path makes RMC hype
The grass is always greener type thing
That's what y'all said with HMC and who's laughing now?
Who’s we? Lol
Unlike the traveler we don't expect the trailblazer to suck when a new form comes by default.
both. Both are better for my account. Sunday for my Jy.. and fugue for my boothil ff and lingsha. the problem is, I need Sunday lc too
Me right now:
Own no break premiums.
Hate break as a concept.
Hate all the break characters so far on a personality level (Firefly/Boothill/Rappa).
Knows Fugue's full and incomplete kit.
Still going to pull Fugue. The tails must be floofed (no more E6 though).
love the editing!
I don't care who is better for my account. The heart wants what it wants and for me that's Sunday! 😍
Who also happens to be better for my account! 🤭
Just today I got Aven at 81 pity winning my 50/50 & becoming full broke, So, I don't think I'll be able to pull on any banner for quite some time. Hence, 3.0 here we come.
In fact you probably need Fugue and Sunday for meta reasons :
- Fugue to replace HMC for the break team so that the MC will be available for Remembrance and Summon meta without compromising the break team.
- Sunday, probably the most important here, to prepare for summons with Aglea ^^
But, if you have Rappa, you dont quite need Fugue since your break team will work well enough I think since you would need her only when your mandatory second team is Summon team with the MC, in the case RMC is meta of course. If RMC is not meta or when you don't need to use Break and Summon for your two teams then yes you need either Rappa or Fugue (probably way better than Rappa ofc)
Sunday is more important, taking the slot of Ruan Mei as the Harmony character we get right before a new world he is obviously going to be relevant for a long time. And we wont have any replacement for him in a long time. First summons teams are prob going to be : Aglea, RMC, Sunday and Lingsha.
I will go for Sunday and Aglea, I will run some test with Rappa instead of HMC but will prob skip Fugue for Aglea and getting funds for her and her LC and other Amphoreus characters.
Love this content, I recently came back to the game and I would love to do a post so you can revew my account, when woul be the next video about this? 👏
As someone who plays a Firefly break team I plan on going for Fugue/Tingyun instead of Sunday plus I'm not really interested in the summon meta.
If I have the three premium armonies should I still pull for Sunday? I am asking this because I like Aglaea desing and would like to get her, but I need Fugue for my break team too.
everything for fugue ❤
I need Kafka for dot and Sunday for summoner. I have Robin for FUA, and Ruan Mei and HMC for break. I don't need Fugue right now since I only have Boothill anyways, and HMC works fine. I'm going for Sunday since he has a ton of potential outside of being a summoner support. I'm also going for all of these specific metas because the game modes and enemies are always changing and you need a good roster that fits every fight. (Like when dot was the hype and I couldn't even beat MOC 11 and 12, or when FUA was hype and it took me the whole day to finish MOC 12 and more.)
I was gonna go for Fugue after Sunday, but Phainon/Kevin changed all my plans...
Worth noting that half the 2.x accounts don't really have anything to actually run with Sunday with that's not terrible. I.e. you need to have pulled a non big 3 team in 2.0. (yunli, boothill or 1.x reruns). I guess early 2.x account could run hyper carry ratio, assuming they are using the rest of their FUA team on feixiao?
My 2 main teams are E6S1 FF, HMC, E2S0 RM, E2S0 Lingsha and E3S1 DHIL, E2S2 Sparkle, E6DDD Tingyu and E0S1 HuoHuo got BladeE0S1 Jingliu E0S0 and our general at E0S1 and all the standard chars with some eidolons. Should i even pull? Maybe Sunday for JY but I don't care about remembrance and the pet/summon meta at all.
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Still such a hard pick. I got both FF and FARM team (started on FF banner) and really wanna invest in summon comp so Sunday seems like the best option. I really want Fugue too, but I think I'm gonna have to give up on her considering I wanna try for both The Herta and Aglea too. After that it's just saving for Mydei and Fate collab
If you're not planning to pull Aglaea next patch, there is really no reason to pull Sunday right now, where as Fugue will benefit your super break team instantly having immediate value . Personally I believe Sunday will be a better pull on a rerun once more summon units are out and he can prove his value by then if he is worth it or not.
Im pretty stuck right now, im a Ratio (E1S1 with Aven E1S1, RobinE0S1, SilverE1S0) max 70k dmg and Firefly (E1S0, HMC, Lingsha, Gallagher E2) 100k main and im stuck between picking Sunday or Fugue... considering Rememberance path is coming upL(
If team 1 is E6 Acheron, Ruan Mei, Pela & Fu Xuan & team 2 is Dr. Ratio, Topaz, Aventurine, & Robin, then who’s best to pull? Or is starting a new team archetype better?
My post is so old it didn't see the light of day in this vid ;-;
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I have got Firefly without rm. Should i still pull for Fugue for future investment for break?
It’s worth investing into break because we still have yet to see more break oriented supports. There’s two dps with boothill and firefly and arguably say there’s now three supports with HMC, Ruan Mei, and Fugue. If you have firefly I think it’s better to save for Ruan because she brings more benefit to break than fugue in this case because you don’t have either. Ruan mei might also rerun because she becomes important to the stories later on. Do you have a break sustain like Gallagher? What’s his eidolon?
@o00o45 Thank you for answering my question. Yes, I do have Gallagher and his eidiolon is e1. My account isn't far behind because I also have a feixiao and robin team. I will keep in watch for furture versions and beyond :)
The people forget that he also works with jinglu IB misha arlan serval etc
Something funny happened. Gepard came in mid pull and said "Fugue is for you". He was my first 5-star, so who am I to say no to him
i have a strong follow up team and some randos, i have acheron and DHIL but no supports for them 😭 idk who to get
Sunday ✨
My F2P account has DOT meta team + Rappa, so I might pull for Fugue to solidify Rap team. My another account has no break, but has Acheron, FART and Yunli teams, so there I might want to invest into new Summoner meta and pull for Mr. Sunday, since my F2P has already gotten into superbreak.
My F2P account also has Himeko + Jade PF team and if leaks are true Fugue would make that team more consistent.
Waifu over meta.
My acheron team is very cheap which is Acheron, Pela, Gui and Gallagher.
Is it wise to pull for fugue to kick Guinaifen out of the team?
You should get her bis support instead (jiaoqiu)
@niigolover Of course that's the best choice but we're Not sure when he will get a rerun, that's why I ask this in the first place 😐
@@sunnysunny. i wouldn't get fugue just for acheron
@@niigolover Right.... I've around 150 pulls saved, should I get her LC then? Or save it for new units
@@sunnysunny. her lc greatly improves her performance!! I have e0s1 acheron and waiting for jiaoqiu rerun🥲
For me i pull both no problem
It's not that hard. For Sunday, just pull on his rerun when the summon dps starts appearing in 3.x. For Fugue, only pull if you have superbreak meta team.
I pull for sunday even if he was buffing the enemies him being meta is just a bouns
I've to see how Aglaea work to see if Sunday worth it, cause right now he only good for JY. As for Fugue, she a side grade of HTB, so I can skip for now. Tbh, skip both of them is not a bad option either.
Skipping for the castorice and mydei team
Im torn between making Boothill stronger or making King Yuan decent 😂😂😂😂
Man, theres some summon character besides ling and jing?
I'm pretty sure topaz and numby counts
@Nothing-mp3my ah, youre right jaja, thx
@@1sdragneel782but well 3.0 being Aglaea or in 3.2 comes Castorice, that Will be most likely the most stronger one
Hard skip sunday
I dont think I will switch to RMC. I am skipping Fugue.
Fugue is the only option
my only "break" unit is Himeko so unfortunately as much as I want Fugue i'll have to forgo her over Sunday so I can pull for the other juicy 3.0 stuff
help!
I am a very new player.
I have
Acheron
Pela
Guinaifen
Aventurine
&
Rappa
Harmony MC
Asta
Gallagher
So I have an okay Acheron team (I have her S1 and Aventurine is E1S1)
But my Rappa team is half-baked at best. But Fugue would help with Rappa's shortcomings...
Should I invest into Sunday and remembrance or get Fugue for Rappa?
I need jiaoqiu for acheron, so Imma skip everything for now I dont care about new meta
when he coming?
If you're investing in Acheron's team it's worth paying attention to Fugue. I'm waiting to see her final kit details to be sure but I'm considering swapping Pela out for Fugue in my Acheron team. She's Nihility so even good in E0 Acheron teams, the character buffed by Fugue can apply defense debuffs and iirc exo toughness break means more applications of the break debuffs to charge Acheron's ult.
@@entropyembrace i was thinking to get fugue for acheron too but i want to know when jiaoqiu will rerun cuz i will prioritize him over fugue maybe if he come back later i can try to get both of them...right now i have 110 pulls with no guarantee, do u think i can save enough for both?
@@rajeshappalasawmy3667 Hard to say, he doesn't synergize with any 3.0 characters and no one is predicting a Jiaoqiu rerun so he's not likely to be coming back soon but it does take a long time to save up a guarantee too.
Dont care about meta i need sunday
I believe we are getting a better sunday for summon meta. Just remember how fast sparkle got powercrept when robin came out with aoe action advance. Also it doesn't help that he is a male and male characters will always be powercrept by strong independent white females(aventurine being the only exception for now).
Sunday is a Bronya for Summon teams. That’s great, but this is the FIRST one. There will be others.
Fun fact: if you say fun fact people will read it
The way I see it- Sunday now would be an asset only for 1yr+ old or under 2 weeks new player. Old cos all content is already cleared & you have surplus resources saved up to build up a completely new team from scratch. New cos you'd have all the first clear jades & tons of resources yet to earn & invest.
Sunday is a liability, atleast a short term significant resource drain for those that are in the middle- already invested a decent amount to current meta, almost finishing up their 1st/2nd team and so have recently emptied out their jades/resources.
The summon meta will take atleast 4+ months to fully mature. So even if Sunday is the Robin/Ruan Mei of that meta, their feixiao/Firefly will come out much later. Which means you're wasting your very limited resources on a char from an untested meta who is also far from his best.
Not to mention, are you sure Sunday is the Robin? or just the Sparkle?
Additionally, if summon is worth all that expensive investment over your already invested follow up/break, then you'd still be on time to pick up everything with the main summon dps. By then, you'd know for sure if summon is just an alternative or an upgrade.
Finally, the biggest point for middle players is- rather than spending on yet to mature Sunday and the likely weaker new meta intro chars, you could invest on already tried & tested T0s- cream of the crop of the current metas.
That way, not only are you not wasting all your investments so far but building up on that enough to clear all the upcoming content till the new meta replaces the current (unlikely but in the worst case scenario that actually happens)
That would ensure you'll have enough to invest by the time the new meta shows its true tested worthiness and nearing its peak maturity.
And those, my friends, are my very serious & sincere "considerations" for picking up my waifu Firefly & Fugue 🤣
Jokes aside, I do have a finished Feixiao team and Firefly & Fugue would massively upgrade my 2nd break lingsha team & 3rd Acheron team respectively.
So yes, current Sunday is an easy skip for me.
Fugue isn't any better than hmc, and hmc also has more toughness and personal damage than her.
Sunday = next sparkle 3.0 patch
Summon isn't even new, we already have so many chars with summons. The hype around this whole thing seems fabricated...
I thought that you can control the summons
Me who wants both:😀🙂🥲🫠