E2 Firely is a different beast than anything below it. It changes the way you play her because the free turn reset every other turn gives a subtantial boost to her flexibility and power in the fight. This pairs really well with Fugue's Exo Toughness bar as it makes it super easy to get the turn resets, while also upping her damage from the extra breaks. If you already have her at E0 or E1, and you have the pulls. Consider investing.
I pulled Firefly's E1 this patch. The reason being a very good, smart one - I thought I was pulling for Fugue but had apparently selected the rerun banner. After using up all my saved up supplies I managed to scrape up enough Jades locked up in various SU modes to hit soft pity after and win a 50/50 for E0 Fugue, but still. Pain.
i planned on pulling her initially as the break DPS, but in the end i pulled Fugue, and transformed my E1S1 Lingsha into a breaker DPS. Seriously, having Lingsha as the DPS for that team is very satisfying, as she can break and heal everytime her turn comes. Plus, she has FUA through her rabbits, break + heal + cleanse everytime.
hate to say it yall but my firefly with similar gear still does more damage to 3 broken targets than lingsha does against 5 in the same fight, and has an almost permanent 60 speed buff. That being said, lingsha is probably very economical lol
The thing about firefly is she so reliable..i can put her as main dps and face adventurin sunday the swarm the marionette hoolay you name it...never reached a situation where firefly needed to be swapped...not many dps can do that at e0 for sure the best dps for any new hsr player.
i have a pretty hyper invested firefly, e2s1 and honestly shes my favorite character, she can be ran anywhere honestly since she implants her own weakness. theres almost nothing where i cant run firefly off that alone. and she scales super well when pulling for her BIS teammates as well. if you like her storywise shes a great character
Got her E2 (now E2S1). I really like how her team takes care of any content regardless of element. I also like how she is normally this innocent girl but in actuality she’s a destroyer of worlds with her mecha.
pulled fugue last night on impulse (i am a boothill enjoyer with ruan mei and hmc) but then decided to do another 10 pull and this girl came home,, always liked her character but i felt like i would bench best boy boot hill if i ever got her, nevertheless i’m super happy i got her, was planning to save for agalea but lowkey more than happy to pull out the wallet if required for her now. thanks for the quality vid yet again!! with this much break investment + a fully geared FUA feixiao team with E0S1 topaz (my bb) i think i will gun for lingsha in her next rerun
Even if Firefly is ever completely powercrept out of the meta... she'll still be worth pulling because she's Trailblazer's friend and that's enough reason. ;) But more seriously... she's still the character I fall back on every time I struggle to clear any content with any other homebrew I've come up with. She's just so strong.
I decided to pull for E2 Firefly mostly because at this point in the game for me, I don't really NEED anything or am unable to complete content, so I just pulled E2 for fun. And it's mostly because I just want Firefly to go ham with Fugue's double break and Firefly is just taking turn after turn (granted, her E2 has a 1 turn CD so she can only take two turns every other turn). I should really consider getting her S1 now though but I'll have to see. As far as plans go, I think I'll likely save up for Castorice and/or Mydei from now.
@hanyuee1160 i have e0 lingsha e0 mei Ana am literally 150 pulls in the banner So I don't know if that slightly upgrade for e2 firefly Will be worth the money or just get a 3.0 character
I pulled for E0S1 Firefly on her initial banner as my first investment for my break team and she still performs exceptionally well in clearing content (I don't 0 cycle but I do try to clear MoC and the other end game content as quickly as I can). I also grabbed E0S1 Rappa on her banner to help diversify my break team, especially for Pure Fiction. I pulled for Fugue this banner (she was guaranteed since I failed pulling for Acheron's E1) and I think having these three units solidify the quintessential break team w/ either HMC and/or Ruan Mei (I have both built as well) as your pivot.
FF is just so versatile and strong it’s hard not to recommend her. She comes online with just HMC and scales exponentially with horizontal and vertical investment. “But hoyo could just remove the break bar from the game!” Copium.
Getting the wrong Tingyun in there at the start was pretty relatable. I keep thinking of Fugue as Harmony so I was looking at her eidolons and wondering why they put a DDD in there when we can just use the lightcone before I realized the error of my ways.
of course she' s still reliable..elemental implant weakness mechanic is one of the most overpowered mechanic hsr has ever done so far,,.it's got to the point that even if the enemy elemental weakness is blocked in some cases we can still implant it ourselves..
Since the moment I started playing the game, I wanted to main Firefly the most, so I was always going to pull for her as someone who just played HSR for a few months. I just gathered the FART premium team last patch, plus was lucky enough to get Lingsha and Rappa as the start of my Break team. I was super lucky the other day bringing Firefly home early in under 20 pulls, then I've won the 50/50 for Fugue too and now I can have a 2nd premium team with Fugue/Firefly/Rappa/Lingsha as shown in the video above, and not waste resources on leveling up Galagher for the time being. I've decided to miss out on Acheron and DoT teams and invest into FUA and SuperBreak teams. Missing Ruan Mai still, but hopefully she'll rerun soon and in the meantime the double dps Break team can carry me through. :) Plus tbh I usually go for vertical investment instead of Constellations/Endolons, so the Acheron premium team looked a bit steep to go for in my early HSR days. I like having more characters to play with, and also hopefully be better prepared for powercreeps, but not heavily investing into a single character/team.
Acheron feels a bit bad compared to superbreak, and especially so if you are missing Jaoqiu... DOT is even more underwhelming in MOC/AS, but it feels better in PF now. Looks like you bet on the better archetypes. Sadly, I think 3.x will be brutal for the break teams.
It's just speculation on my part, but given that break is so strong now and we have power creep and Hoyo will need to sell new units, I think they will start nerfing. And it's very easy to shut down break, just make the enemy unbreakable.
@@yavnrh apoc is based on breaking , + every unit gets affected by unbreakable so it is bad . If one side of moc is with gepard and other units that can lock , just use it on the other side . Permanent toughness lock is bad for every unit
I pulled for Firefly E1 instead of Fugue BC I'm not interested in the Summon meta so I plan to user HMC for a while. And I'm trying to get Firefly E2 until the end of her banner. Do you think Fugue was more worth it?
Ok Don't go for E2 Firefly go for E0S0 fugue, not kidding... you shooting yourself in the foot if you don't do that. why cause Fugue gives one more super break, but most important she is a combo piece with Lingsha. gives defense shred that stacks with a 4 star lightcon, and stacks ontop of Firefly toughness reduction. E1 Firefly I understand, but E2 versus Fugue E0S0, don't. Fugue is really one of those building blocks you do not want to miss especially for Firefly. this from somebody who is skipping garanteed the Herta and E1 Fugue for E2 Firefly ...
@drakehound2244 I don't have Lingsha xD. And after many videos of Fugue, all of them said that she is an upgrade from HCM, but not that much... So I thought to get her in the rerun, after Lingsha xD
@@rodrigooliveira8728 I understand but Fugue bring so much to the team. even E0S0, while I also understand E2 2 more turn extra with Firefly 161 with the ultimate is total of 6 turn. but that 2 turn extra doesn't warrant a Character that is SP positive, brings passive superbreak and defense shred allows another DPSER to ignore weakness issue,the ultimate (I thought it was worthless) that can garantee instant break when needed regardless of toughness or weakness elements and brings another Superbreak bar that is almost instantly broken cause 40% of the hp weak to everything.. so Firefly can do even more super break damage. if HMC has to move to RMC (cause of true damage to ignore toughness bar) you have the option to move him. without losing HMC in Fugue.
@@rodrigooliveira8728 Let say even with Gallagher who has a fast Ultimate, foxian prayer allows his ultimate to ignore 25% of the toughness bar. and stack up Defense debufs, see what I am getting at.
I’m a FF E1 enjoyer, lost 50/50 on Fugue. With Feixiao possibly coming up in the next patch, considering pulling her since I already have a well built follow up team. New players might consider which character they like best since both are relatively F2P friendly.
Pulled her E1 plus Ruan Mei and E6 ghallager as a new player, I think Hoyo was giving me a sign. Her team is still my best built and my best performing.
As FTP, I have Firefly S1, Rein Mei S1, Fugue and gallagher for my break team. I have no reason to vertically invest further into break teams. My account is at the point where I can expand the number of units I am using. I'm saving up for the summon meta. Stellar jades count is tight.
FF break is one of my top 2 teams, with Dotcheron a close second. They both work across the current end game modes. I then have a mix and match hyper carry team and a scuffed FuA (where Topaz outshines Ratio most of the time 🙈). Wanted to get Feixiao, but Fugue ran from me and it took everything I had to get her. I'm still building her and can't wait to test run her asap. Maybe there will be a Meta FuA with a summon released at some 0oint, who I can pull to up that teams damage 🤞🏻
If my team for FF so far is: FF, hmc, lingsha what would be a good last character? I have seen people use pela, asta or March 7th hunt. I got all of these, but pela and asta are e0 and march 7th hunt is e6
Ruan Mei is ideal. If you dont have her, Fugue is nice too. If you dont have either of those...idk its tough. You could get by maybe with a Pela or something, but Ruan/Fugue would be the way to go.
I spend 300 tickets, lost 50/50 both times. Ended up only upgrading firefly to E1 and rolling fugue E0 without signature. Painfull rolls for this patch ;-;
Yeah I feel the pulls % is a bit bs I pulled the Sig light one of Jingliu rerun and Acheron's light one (75/25 my ass) after losing the gamba I also lost 50/50 on both characters. Yes I lost a bit early within 40 pulls each but still like cmon all 4 lost is craaaazy
Truthfully, I'm trying to get her because I started when Yunli came out and I just like her character a lot. Although, I have Rappa so if I miss her I'm not stressing I already have Fugue.
i was thinking of getting her and fugue,but first fugue since i lost firefly to welt on her initial release. tho,i love firefly i wanted to see if shes still worth it or not. im glad to hear ur opinion on this
Got Lingsha and Rappa .. Now pulled Fugue and Firefly with 80 pulls . My break is complete .. Love Ruan Mei but I dont have enough resources for her .. got to save for 3.0 chars.
If you like her, there's absolutely no worries about her viability, but if you're considering more of a meta pick, then you should skip. I don't think firefly would have any difficulty clearing any MOC in a decent 4-6 cycles in 2-3 cost teams, and can do well in one side of apoc (no problem getting 1400). And as a remainder, you don't get extra jades for 0cycling, as opposed to what many make you believe, and seeing 0 cycle clears doesn't mean you can replicate it too, as they are often the results of like 50 resets, fine stats tuning and great relics.
Who is the "her" you're referring to though? Firefly or Fugue? Because if it's Firefly the rest of the comment doesn't really make sense and if it's Fugue then one reason we might want to get her is because she is a functional replacement for HTB since they're moving to a new Path that might be useful to have available moving forward. Firefly loses a lot of potential without HTB and the devs know this. I am certain that is why they let everyone get HTB from the start once Firefly launched and since HTB is not going to always be available (since more paths are going to be coming in the future) and we still don't have another support capable of giving Super Break, them releasing Fugue right before 3.0 comes out seems to be their way of -forcing- -blackmailing- gently encouraging us to get a Super Break support while we still can.
Getting 4-6 cycles in one side in MoC is already borderline "usable", since both teams needs to clear in 5 cycles (or less) each. And yes, 0 cycle clear doesn't give any extra rewards but tends to show how strong a team composition is, all things considering (like MoC buffs, enemies type-weakness, etc.). So if Firefly is clearing right now in 5 cycles average, in the next 2 or 3 MoCs she won't keep it up because of the insane HP inflation in this game.
@@vetreas366 first, it should be completely logical that the "her" I'm referring to is Firefly, as that's the point of this video. I haven't talked a single time about Fugue so I really don't get why you're talking about her. My main point was that people that LIKE firefly, and I make myself CLEAR, that LIKE firefly, shouldn't need worry about her viability because she's still very strong although I do understand that we may get stronger characters later. The point with the 4-6 clear was that she can clear easily under these cycle counts and if you're willing to farm better relics on her team or the enemies do favor her then you may also clear within 2-3 cycles. I understand that Firefly is bound to HMC but I don't see that as to much of an issue, as you're getting her best teammate free and you just have to switch back to HMC if you want to use firefly.
@@vetreas366 Fugue is more then a firefly support, Cause if you are worried about Superbreak, then Firefly kit comes build in with Super Break. but HMC stacked a additional Superbreak, Fugue stacks a additional superbreak. so that is 3 Superbreak Damage, Rappa kit also comes with Super Break Damage. WTF are break characters that broken, :P yup why you think more BREAK TEAM CHARACTERS then any other team in the game. and each of the break team characters, can fit into any other team, Fugue Lingsha (are already a combo) even if Firefly isn't meta DPS .. at E1 she is SP neutral/positive at 161 speed she automatically hits the 200 speed for 4 turns a cycle. Firefly is the most broken character ever, cause even if her Damage isn't TOP NOTCH, her ultility is.
Can just "save" for another Limited Remembrance 5 star, than Malding whether to get Fugue just so you could free up HMC to RMC. Is RMC really that broken, that your other Archetype team just fall off short without using the RMC?
Lets be honest aside from FUA (who are low key but their characters can fit anywhere) Break Teams are most OP team ever, you got Lingsha and Fugue already a combo for any other team. You got Firefly Rappa Boothill, you got Ruan Mei, any flop in those Break Team characters... Nope. not one of them is a FLOP. firefly while not the highest Ceiling in Damage, has so much utility it is ridiculous. especially at E1 she can fit anywhere cause she brings her own Super Break has no Weakness issue, can be build anyway you want... at 50% Critical and 75% critical damage (sorry didn't get more lucky with relics) and 4k Attack power. she is her own tank dpser who doesn't even cost SP. and at E2 she is like a pinch hitter can't do something, replace FF with anybody that is failing to perform isn't a sustain. boom.. you suddenly get passed that encounter. but SP Team Building .. yada yada as long it gets the job done.
It is a luxury, I am going for the E2 Garantee instead of the Herta garantee. but then I love Firefly, is it wise investment, to get that 2 extra turn above 4. in game mechanics... for average player not for that 100-150 bucks/Tickets. but in average each cycle getting 2 More firefly turns could make a difference especially in the longterm. so meta point of view it is worth it, money wise and jade and ticket wise it isn't, but if you Love Firefly the heck with it, it is the character that makes you happy.
Firefly: The most supported DPS in the history of the game, can clear contents regardless of element. Hoyofans: Is she worth it? My guys, even if something better comes along in 3.0 (which it invariably will because that's the nature of the game) You still need 2 teams. Firefly and break team will be at least the next best thing unless Hoyo literally removes the break bar from all future content for the entire rest of HSR's lifespan.
Acquired E2 on rerun. Havent decide whether to pull 3.0 banners. Personally i have 3 team archetype that should cover the endgame. Vertical investment is the way for my main acc. Fify, HMC, Ruan Mei, Gallagher still pretty solid team from initial Firefly release.
Since you got more than enough Archetypes built.....Switching MC's Path is just cheaper. It's only a problem when People have "2" Superbreak reliant DPSes.
saving up jade for E2S1 Castorice. I kinda struggle on all mode (27*MOC, 7*PF, 6*AS - until 3.2 patch will be missing out ~16 pulls), with E1S0Feixiao without Robin. its gonna be painful 120 days wait😅
If you have Ruan Mei, PULL HER! absolutely. she is the easiest starter DPS in the game and also top tier. If you didn't have Ruan Mei i'd say wait for aglaea
If you want her definitely go for it, but if you want her just bc you already have Ruan Mei, I'd suggest against it. I got RM in 1.6 and only pulled E0S0 Acheron of the 3 dpses. When I need a break team I run RM, Hunt March/Himeko, HMC, and Gallagher and I've been able to clear all content full stars.
Not getting Rappa was a mistake. But i love Dhil he is one of my favourite characters in the game. But yeah endgame wise Rappa would have been so much better. Or Aventurine.
is investing in the follow up team still worth it in 3.0? or is aglaea better? ( i am curious about the longevity and the power level for the follow up team) Edit: i know castorice is around the corner, but i only have one sunday (cant use him in 2 teams) , so should i invest in a follow up team and just wait for castorice?
"Just wait for Castorice" we have no clue what she'll do so that's a really hard thing to answer. It might be Castorice wants to take as few turns as possible and Sunday would be antisynergy. We just don't know.
If you have Acheron signature lightcone and a proper (debuffing) team I would pull for Fugue, because she has better synergy with Rappa. Otherwise Firefly as a replacement for Acheron.
Ok I’m good 😅 I guess my rationale wasn’t far off from yours, I made a new acc to save for 3.2 & I wanted someone to help me not suck until then, FF has been that so far
If you like her and/or want a very Casual Friendly Breaker with Very high floor, then Pull for Firefly. Though If you have Boothill or/and Rappa, definitely pull Fugue instead of Firefly, and if your anxious about them countering break in 3.x then don't pull Firefly, and instead pull a 3.x DPS that they will shill endgame for if your a Meta slave. I prefer Boothill and Rappa over her though. I find her very Boring as a Breaker even on a burner alt that I got her at 30 pity on..
With Feixiou and Aglea coming up. I am considering skipping The Herta and that's going to be a power creeper recent release. Older dps Firefly is a hard pass.
Depends on if you're just making firefly better or making firefly and other break dps better. As someone with both I can say there no way to go wrong here. I personally love fugue e1 since I know for sure that someone is being broken
I am going for E2 firefly cause I love firefly, done even giving up my garantee for the Herta or Fugue E1. but is it wise or smart, not really E1 Fugue brings more to the table and Herta is the next META dpser for F2P. all in all it is more how much you Like Firefly.
Not really. It is how you keep characters relevant if you enjoy them. DHIL for example: if you get his sig or an eidolon or two, he can keep up with end game. People showed off how just 1 eidolon on Jade can transform her into a god in MOC. Etc. So really it is only "useless" if you want a super easy time. Then sure, just get the shiny new toy every patch. Otherwise no, re-runs are very useful (dont get me started on Acheron or any support too.)
My E0 Firefly team is still clearing content in 1-3 cycles on autopilot. I think there's a real fear Hoyo will start putting in bosses that ignore break mechanics and render her useless, but you can just not run her on that side of MoC if a boss like that exists. Maybe in the future if things look dire I'll start vertically investing, but for now I'd rather try and use those pulls on Aglaea and her LC for the next meta instead.
don't worry about it, my testing so far with Attack Gear Critical gear and critical Damage gear. shows only a min max in Relics and Firefraud still does better then Archeron on characters you can not break. but Archeron 99% Critical and 150% critical Damage, well firefly doesn't need that high, just 50% critical 4000 Attack and 100% critical damage. those 2200 attack converts into 176 Free break. and firefraud Fireweakness is AUTO implant, it triggers even before he does Damage or Apply it.
Compared to Archeron, Firefly didn't Dissapoint, such a firefraud... especially at E1 she doesn't dissapoint. first character I whaled on, and expected damage lower then Archeron. Would I recommend Firefly to new player. unless you want to go E1 (which is where she starts to shine cause of skill points neutral. so can fit into any team). would I recommend at E0S0, not really cause then you are stuck with a Archeron where you need to build a team around. characters where you need to build a team around. is bad for NEW players. When you have a mix match of characters and limited resources to level characters traces and grind relics. sorry see they always say not needed. E1 is cheaper then waiting for a year to get Ruan Mei Fugue Lingsha, and you can slot Firefly into any team.
Infact if you are a NEW player with a mix match of team, save for Lingsha it makes your life a whole lot easier. getting a character that can DPS Sustain Debuff Cleanse and can action advance her own summon. even if you hate Lingsha ... after playing with it for 10 min, you get over the hate in no time, cause how versatile she is.
FF is tier 0 and is a very comfortable unit to beat the game with. Rappa relies on imaginary/fire weakness to perform well (and the game of course is heavily catering to her right now for this.) So no, it is a bit nuanced. FF never cares about element; she is boring and safe to clear end game content with. But, if someone has a Fugue or plans on getting Fugue, then sure. Rappa/Boot would be fantastic.
@GodofGoblins She has whole PF catered for her and bunch of AoE bosses. Also it is highly likely that the enemy would have either imaginary or fire weakness and this would allow her to carry. If enemy is weak to fire she will abuse Lingsha and if they are weak to imaginary she would deal most damage herself. She is full sp neutral so Lingsha can spam her skills like crazy unlike E0 FF. She has more shilled content for her, she has whole gamemode for her and wins more out of both Lingsha and Fugue than FF. Boothill has way too much competition with Feixiao for the same bosses while Rappa at least have 2 weeks to be still the best and after that she would still be very good because she would feed from mydei imaginary shilled offsides.
For F2P, if you have Rappa, you probably don't need Firefly. Rappa has AoE super break embedded in her kit too. While she can't implant her own weakness, she can bypass other weaknesses.
With Fugue, Rappa is the best overall break character at E0S0 and Boothill the best break-boss killer at E0S0, so from a meta-perspective, Firefly isn't a good pull in almost-3.0 patch. And for new players, the best strategy is to invest into remembrance characters, not Firefly or even break characters because we don't know if Hoyo will keep the break meta "alive" or it's gonna be forgotten like DoT.
If you wanna use other MCs in the future and you dont already have Fugue...I would not pick her up. And remember...Firefly mains are the weirdest in the entire game. You really wanna join that rabbithole. 😅
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E2 Firely is a different beast than anything below it. It changes the way you play her because the free turn reset every other turn gives a subtantial boost to her flexibility and power in the fight. This pairs really well with Fugue's Exo Toughness bar as it makes it super easy to get the turn resets, while also upping her damage from the extra breaks. If you already have her at E0 or E1, and you have the pulls. Consider investing.
I pulled Firefly's E1 this patch. The reason being a very good, smart one - I thought I was pulling for Fugue but had apparently selected the rerun banner.
After using up all my saved up supplies I managed to scrape up enough Jades locked up in various SU modes to hit soft pity after and win a 50/50 for E0 Fugue, but still. Pain.
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E1 Firefly will make your entire life so much easier in HSR. Best quality of life E1 in the game.
E2 Firefly is very good too xD
@@rodrigooliveira8728E2 isn't just good it's amazing 😂
i planned on pulling her initially as the break DPS, but in the end i pulled Fugue, and transformed my E1S1 Lingsha into a breaker DPS. Seriously, having Lingsha as the DPS for that team is very satisfying, as she can break and heal everytime her turn comes. Plus, she has FUA through her rabbits, break + heal + cleanse everytime.
That sounds amazing!!
@@ocher8931 try it if you have those characters. I've tried it in PF, MOC, and AS. Seriously I'm very satisfied.
Lingsha havers stayy winningggg
Lingsha and Fugue are one combo team, I already said Fugue is a must pull. Fugue and Lingsha are a combo team at a cheap budget so versatile. for F2P.
hate to say it yall but my firefly with similar gear still does more damage to 3 broken targets than lingsha does against 5 in the same fight, and has an almost permanent 60 speed buff. That being said, lingsha is probably very economical lol
The thing about firefly is she so reliable..i can put her as main dps and face adventurin sunday the swarm the marionette hoolay you name it...never reached a situation where firefly needed to be swapped...not many dps can do that at e0 for sure the best dps for any new hsr player.
Thank you for the videos EOD! I usually don’t comment but you’re the HSR content creator I trust most - your meta analyses have never failed me
Firefly is a good carry and is decently versatile for all game modes
i've mained Firefly ever since i pulled her and i do not regret that decision.
Straight to the point video. Ez to understand. Keep it up! Best HSR guidemaker IMO
i have a pretty hyper invested firefly, e2s1 and honestly shes my favorite character, she can be ran anywhere honestly since she implants her own weakness. theres almost nothing where i cant run firefly off that alone. and she scales super well when pulling for her BIS teammates as well. if you like her storywise shes a great character
Got her E2 (now E2S1). I really like how her team takes care of any content regardless of element. I also like how she is normally this innocent girl but in actuality she’s a destroyer of worlds with her mecha.
pulled fugue last night on impulse (i am a boothill enjoyer with ruan mei and hmc) but then decided to do another 10 pull and this girl came home,, always liked her character but i felt like i would bench best boy boot hill if i ever got her, nevertheless i’m super happy i got her, was planning to save for agalea but lowkey more than happy to pull out the wallet if required for her now. thanks for the quality vid yet again!!
with this much break investment + a fully geared FUA feixiao team with E0S1 topaz (my bb) i think i will gun for lingsha in her next rerun
Even if Firefly is ever completely powercrept out of the meta... she'll still be worth pulling because she's Trailblazer's friend and that's enough reason. ;)
But more seriously... she's still the character I fall back on every time I struggle to clear any content with any other homebrew I've come up with. She's just so strong.
I decided to pull for E2 Firefly mostly because at this point in the game for me, I don't really NEED anything or am unable to complete content, so I just pulled E2 for fun. And it's mostly because I just want Firefly to go ham with Fugue's double break and Firefly is just taking turn after turn (granted, her E2 has a 1 turn CD so she can only take two turns every other turn). I should really consider getting her S1 now though but I'll have to see. As far as plans go, I think I'll likely save up for Castorice and/or Mydei from now.
Is fugue an upgrade for e2 ff instead of hmc ?
Is fugue an upgrade for e2 ff instead of hmc ?
@@papag4446 not that much if you're not willing to go for a sustain less team
@hanyuee1160 i have e0 lingsha e0 mei
Ana am literally 150 pulls in the banner
So I don't know if that slightly upgrade for e2 firefly
Will be worth the money or just get a 3.0 character
@@papag4446 do you have e1 firefly?
She is 100% worth it imo. I have her E0s0 and she smashes moc since i got her, the fire implant is godly for gallagher and linghsa synergy too
I pulled for E0S1 Firefly on her initial banner as my first investment for my break team and she still performs exceptionally well in clearing content (I don't 0 cycle but I do try to clear MoC and the other end game content as quickly as I can). I also grabbed E0S1 Rappa on her banner to help diversify my break team, especially for Pure Fiction.
I pulled for Fugue this banner (she was guaranteed since I failed pulling for Acheron's E1) and I think having these three units solidify the quintessential break team w/ either HMC and/or Ruan Mei (I have both built as well) as your pivot.
FF is just so versatile and strong it’s hard not to recommend her. She comes online with just HMC and scales exponentially with horizontal and vertical investment.
“But hoyo could just remove the break bar from the game!”
Copium.
I really hope hoyo would applies that mechanism, because I wanna know which one the strongest DPS without breaking enemy's thoughness
Getting the wrong Tingyun in there at the start was pretty relatable.
I keep thinking of Fugue as Harmony so I was looking at her eidolons and wondering why they put a DDD in there when we can just use the lightcone before I realized the error of my ways.
Short answer: Yes
Long answer: Sure if you want Don't feel pressured though if you have a Boothil, Fugue, or Himeko heck even e6 Xeuyei tho
of course she' s still reliable..elemental implant weakness mechanic is one of the most overpowered mechanic hsr has ever done so far,,.it's got to the point that even if the enemy elemental weakness is blocked in some cases we can still implant it ourselves..
Since the moment I started playing the game, I wanted to main Firefly the most, so I was always going to pull for her as someone who just played HSR for a few months. I just gathered the FART premium team last patch, plus was lucky enough to get Lingsha and Rappa as the start of my Break team. I was super lucky the other day bringing Firefly home early in under 20 pulls, then I've won the 50/50 for Fugue too and now I can have a 2nd premium team with Fugue/Firefly/Rappa/Lingsha as shown in the video above, and not waste resources on leveling up Galagher for the time being.
I've decided to miss out on Acheron and DoT teams and invest into FUA and SuperBreak teams. Missing Ruan Mai still, but hopefully she'll rerun soon and in the meantime the double dps Break team can carry me through. :)
Plus tbh I usually go for vertical investment instead of Constellations/Endolons, so the Acheron premium team looked a bit steep to go for in my early HSR days. I like having more characters to play with, and also hopefully be better prepared for powercreeps, but not heavily investing into a single character/team.
vertical investment IS eidolons tho
Acheron feels a bit bad compared to superbreak, and especially so if you are missing Jaoqiu... DOT is even more underwhelming in MOC/AS, but it feels better in PF now. Looks like you bet on the better archetypes.
Sadly, I think 3.x will be brutal for the break teams.
@@yavnrh explain why for break teams
It's just speculation on my part, but given that break is so strong now and we have power creep and Hoyo will need to sell new units, I think they will start nerfing. And it's very easy to shut down break, just make the enemy unbreakable.
@@yavnrh apoc is based on breaking , + every unit gets affected by unbreakable so it is bad . If one side of moc is with gepard and other units that can lock , just use it on the other side . Permanent toughness lock is bad for every unit
I already have Fugue, Firefly and Ruan Mei and im still coming back to watch any video he uploads lol
should i save for robin or go for her?
I pulled for Firefly E1 instead of Fugue BC I'm not interested in the Summon meta so I plan to user HMC for a while. And I'm trying to get Firefly E2 until the end of her banner.
Do you think Fugue was more worth it?
Ok Don't go for E2 Firefly go for E0S0 fugue, not kidding... you shooting yourself in the foot if you don't do that. why cause Fugue gives one more super break, but most important she is a combo piece with Lingsha. gives defense shred that stacks with a 4 star lightcon, and stacks ontop of Firefly toughness reduction. E1 Firefly I understand, but E2 versus Fugue E0S0, don't. Fugue is really one of those building blocks you do not want to miss especially for Firefly. this from somebody who is skipping garanteed the Herta and E1 Fugue for E2 Firefly ...
@drakehound2244 I don't have Lingsha xD. And after many videos of Fugue, all of them said that she is an upgrade from HCM, but not that much... So I thought to get her in the rerun, after Lingsha xD
@@rodrigooliveira8728 I understand but Fugue bring so much to the team. even E0S0, while I also understand E2 2 more turn extra with Firefly 161 with the ultimate is total of 6 turn. but that 2 turn extra doesn't warrant a Character that is SP positive, brings passive superbreak and defense shred allows another DPSER to ignore weakness issue,the ultimate (I thought it was worthless) that can garantee instant break when needed regardless of toughness or weakness elements and brings another Superbreak bar that is almost instantly broken cause 40% of the hp weak to everything.. so Firefly can do even more super break damage. if HMC has to move to RMC (cause of true damage to ignore toughness bar) you have the option to move him. without losing HMC in Fugue.
@@rodrigooliveira8728 Let say even with Gallagher who has a fast Ultimate, foxian prayer allows his ultimate to ignore 25% of the toughness bar. and stack up Defense debufs, see what I am getting at.
@drakehound2244 you do have a good point sir
I’m a FF E1 enjoyer, lost 50/50 on Fugue. With Feixiao possibly coming up in the next patch, considering pulling her since I already have a well built follow up team. New players might consider which character they like best since both are relatively F2P friendly.
Thanks for the video!
Pulled her E1 plus Ruan Mei and E6 ghallager as a new player, I think Hoyo was giving me a sign. Her team is still my best built and my best performing.
As FTP, I have Firefly S1, Rein Mei S1, Fugue and gallagher for my break team. I have no reason to vertically invest further into break teams. My account is at the point where I can expand the number of units I am using. I'm saving up for the summon meta. Stellar jades count is tight.
FF break is one of my top 2 teams, with Dotcheron a close second. They both work across the current end game modes. I then have a mix and match hyper carry team and a scuffed FuA (where Topaz outshines Ratio most of the time 🙈). Wanted to get Feixiao, but Fugue ran from me and it took everything I had to get her. I'm still building her and can't wait to test run her asap. Maybe there will be a Meta FuA with a summon released at some 0oint, who I can pull to up that teams damage 🤞🏻
If my team for FF so far is: FF, hmc, lingsha
what would be a good last character? I have seen people use pela, asta or March 7th hunt. I got all of these, but pela and asta are e0 and march 7th hunt is e6
Ruan Mei is ideal. If you dont have her, Fugue is nice too. If you dont have either of those...idk its tough. You could get by maybe with a Pela or something, but Ruan/Fugue would be the way to go.
I spend 300 tickets, lost 50/50 both times. Ended up only upgrading firefly to E1 and rolling fugue E0 without signature. Painfull rolls for this patch ;-;
Yeah I feel the pulls % is a bit bs
I pulled the Sig light one of Jingliu rerun and Acheron's light one (75/25 my ass) after losing the gamba
I also lost 50/50 on both characters. Yes I lost a bit early within 40 pulls each but still like cmon all 4 lost is craaaazy
Truthfully, I'm trying to get her because I started when Yunli came out and I just like her character a lot. Although, I have Rappa so if I miss her I'm not stressing I already have Fugue.
i was thinking of getting her and fugue,but first fugue
since i lost firefly to welt on her initial release.
tho,i love firefly i wanted to see if shes still worth it or not. im glad to hear ur opinion on this
Got Lingsha and Rappa .. Now pulled Fugue and Firefly with 80 pulls . My break is complete .. Love Ruan Mei but I dont have enough resources for her .. got to save for 3.0 chars.
If you like her, there's absolutely no worries about her viability, but if you're considering more of a meta pick, then you should skip. I don't think firefly would have any difficulty clearing any MOC in a decent 4-6 cycles in 2-3 cost teams, and can do well in one side of apoc (no problem getting 1400). And as a remainder, you don't get extra jades for 0cycling, as opposed to what many make you believe, and seeing 0 cycle clears doesn't mean you can replicate it too, as they are often the results of like 50 resets, fine stats tuning and great relics.
Who is the "her" you're referring to though? Firefly or Fugue? Because if it's Firefly the rest of the comment doesn't really make sense and if it's Fugue then one reason we might want to get her is because she is a functional replacement for HTB since they're moving to a new Path that might be useful to have available moving forward.
Firefly loses a lot of potential without HTB and the devs know this. I am certain that is why they let everyone get HTB from the start once Firefly launched and since HTB is not going to always be available (since more paths are going to be coming in the future) and we still don't have another support capable of giving Super Break, them releasing Fugue right before 3.0 comes out seems to be their way of -forcing- -blackmailing- gently encouraging us to get a Super Break support while we still can.
Getting 4-6 cycles in one side in MoC is already borderline "usable", since both teams needs to clear in 5 cycles (or less) each. And yes, 0 cycle clear doesn't give any extra rewards but tends to show how strong a team composition is, all things considering (like MoC buffs, enemies type-weakness, etc.). So if Firefly is clearing right now in 5 cycles average, in the next 2 or 3 MoCs she won't keep it up because of the insane HP inflation in this game.
@@vetreas366 first, it should be completely logical that the "her" I'm referring to is Firefly, as that's the point of this video. I haven't talked a single time about Fugue so I really don't get why you're talking about her.
My main point was that people that LIKE firefly, and I make myself CLEAR, that LIKE firefly, shouldn't need worry about her viability because she's still very strong although I do understand that we may get stronger characters later. The point with the 4-6 clear was that she can clear easily under these cycle counts and if you're willing to farm better relics on her team or the enemies do favor her then you may also clear within 2-3 cycles. I understand that Firefly is bound to HMC but I don't see that as to much of an issue, as you're getting her best teammate free and you just have to switch back to HMC if you want to use firefly.
@@vetreas366 Fugue is more then a firefly support, Cause if you are worried about Superbreak, then Firefly kit comes build in with Super Break. but HMC stacked a additional Superbreak, Fugue stacks a additional superbreak. so that is 3 Superbreak Damage, Rappa kit also comes with Super Break Damage.
WTF are break characters that broken, :P yup why you think more BREAK TEAM CHARACTERS then any other team in the game. and each of the break team characters, can fit into any other team, Fugue Lingsha (are already a combo) even if Firefly isn't meta DPS .. at E1 she is SP neutral/positive at 161 speed she automatically hits the 200 speed for 4 turns a cycle. Firefly is the most broken character ever, cause even if her Damage isn't TOP NOTCH, her ultility is.
Can just "save" for another Limited Remembrance 5 star, than Malding whether to get Fugue just so you could free up HMC to RMC.
Is RMC really that broken, that your other Archetype team just fall off short without using the RMC?
firefly has been my carry every since she came out
Lets be honest aside from FUA (who are low key but their characters can fit anywhere) Break Teams are most OP team ever, you got Lingsha and Fugue already a combo for any other team.
You got Firefly Rappa Boothill, you got Ruan Mei, any flop in those Break Team characters... Nope. not one of them is a FLOP. firefly while not the highest Ceiling in Damage, has so much utility it is ridiculous. especially at E1 she can fit anywhere cause she brings her own Super Break has no Weakness issue, can be build anyway you want... at 50% Critical and 75% critical damage (sorry didn't get more lucky with relics) and 4k Attack power. she is her own tank dpser who doesn't even cost SP. and at E2 she is like a pinch hitter can't do something, replace FF with anybody that is failing to perform isn't a sustain. boom.. you suddenly get passed that encounter. but SP Team Building .. yada yada as long it gets the job done.
I have HMC, E1S1 RM, E6 Gallagher and E1S1 Firefly. Should I pull for E2 from a meta standpoint or just save for The Herta and Aglaea?
E2 the most give you 2 more turn.
E2 than tribbie/mydei/castorice
It is a luxury, I am going for the E2 Garantee instead of the Herta garantee. but then I love Firefly, is it wise investment, to get that 2 extra turn above 4. in game mechanics... for average player not for that 100-150 bucks/Tickets. but in average each cycle getting 2 More firefly turns could make a difference especially in the longterm. so meta point of view it is worth it, money wise and jade and ticket wise it isn't, but if you Love Firefly the heck with it, it is the character that makes you happy.
Firefly: The most supported DPS in the history of the game, can clear contents regardless of element.
Hoyofans: Is she worth it?
My guys, even if something better comes along in 3.0 (which it invariably will because that's the nature of the game) You still need 2 teams. Firefly and break team will be at least the next best thing unless Hoyo literally removes the break bar from all future content for the entire rest of HSR's lifespan.
Acquired E2 on rerun. Havent decide whether to pull 3.0 banners. Personally i have 3 team archetype that should cover the endgame. Vertical investment is the way for my main acc. Fify, HMC, Ruan Mei, Gallagher still pretty solid team from initial Firefly release.
Is fugue an upgrade for e2 ff instead of hmc ?
Vertical investment is a very risky move on a game that's less than 2 years old and already making some previously amazing characters redundant
Since you got more than enough Archetypes built.....Switching MC's Path is just cheaper.
It's only a problem when People have "2" Superbreak reliant DPSes.
Wheres the tribbie video?
saving up jade for E2S1 Castorice. I kinda struggle on all mode (27*MOC, 7*PF, 6*AS - until 3.2 patch will be missing out ~16 pulls), with E1S0Feixiao without Robin. its gonna be painful 120 days wait😅
pulled firefly after getting fugue, simply because i was already at e1 anyway, felt worth the cost to get that extremely busted e2 lol
I have a Ruan mei but no break dps that isn’t a 4 star. I want to pull her but I’m not sure.
If you have Ruan Mei, PULL HER! absolutely. she is the easiest starter DPS in the game and also top tier. If you didn't have Ruan Mei i'd say wait for aglaea
If you want her definitely go for it, but if you want her just bc you already have Ruan Mei, I'd suggest against it. I got RM in 1.6 and only pulled E0S0 Acheron of the 3 dpses. When I need a break team I run RM, Hunt March/Himeko, HMC, and Gallagher and I've been able to clear all content full stars.
NO! Answered the question first
Not getting Rappa was a mistake. But i love Dhil he is one of my favourite characters in the game. But yeah endgame wise Rappa would have been so much better. Or Aventurine.
is investing in the follow up team still worth it in 3.0? or is aglaea better? ( i am curious about the longevity and the power level for the follow up team)
Edit: i know castorice is around the corner, but i only have one sunday (cant use him in 2 teams) , so should i invest in a follow up team and just wait for castorice?
"Just wait for Castorice" we have no clue what she'll do so that's a really hard thing to answer. It might be Castorice wants to take as few turns as possible and Sunday would be antisynergy. We just don't know.
@@jhemp alright thanks
I have Rappa and Acheron . What should i Pull for Fugue or Firefly For End game Contents ?
Just go for fugue you don't need two or more break DPS, made this mistake with Boothill since I only use Firefly
100% Fugue, cos u need Fugue skill to support Rappa to chip off some toughness from non Imaginary emery
If you have Acheron signature lightcone and a proper (debuffing) team I would pull for Fugue, because she has better synergy with Rappa. Otherwise Firefly as a replacement for Acheron.
Fugue yes, Firefly no since you have Rappa
@@malamucik2096 does Fugue goes with Acheron since its a nihility?
I am thinking of Acheron E0S0 + Pela + Fugue + Adventurine. What do you think?
Ok I’m good 😅 I guess my rationale wasn’t far off from yours, I made a new acc to save for 3.2 & I wanted someone to help me not suck until then, FF has been that so far
I got fuge and tried to build my pity on firefly banner. Then i got her too. Now im broke and no materials to build them. 😢😢
If you like her and/or want a very Casual Friendly Breaker with Very high floor, then Pull for Firefly. Though If you have Boothill or/and Rappa, definitely pull Fugue instead of Firefly, and if your anxious about them countering break in 3.x then don't pull Firefly, and instead pull a 3.x DPS that they will shill endgame for if your a Meta slave.
I prefer Boothill and Rappa over her though. I find her very Boring as a Breaker even on a burner alt that I got her at 30 pity on..
if i dont have ruan mei is it worth to pull firefly?
Yes
@@malamucik2096 thank you, i got fugue, harmony mc and gallaher so i will slowly start building the team
@@balusama when i still dont have ruan mei, i use pela on her team with gallagher+HMC
Just pulled firefly, aka in the next 3 pulls after this post, ty all for the luck 😁
I hope u don’t say what I think u will 😭😭😭 I tried to wait for EOD but I thought u just weren’t making one
Got firefly e1, so glad i skipped acheron wnd i will skip her forever
With Feixiou and Aglea coming up. I am considering skipping The Herta and that's going to be a power creeper recent release. Older dps Firefly is a hard pass.
best girl is always worth it
until they upgrade her in the future
In HSR if it's not a gigacracked support just don't pull on reruns.
i got 3 copies of her with her LC within 165 pulls so i guess i shes worth it 😊
She's worth it for me.
E2 firefly or E1 fugue?
Edited: I don't have Rappa or Boothill
E2 Firefly is really good but much better if you have Fugue on your team too.
Depends on if you're just making firefly better or making firefly and other break dps better.
As someone with both I can say there no way to go wrong here.
I personally love fugue e1 since I know for sure that someone is being broken
I am going for E2 firefly cause I love firefly, done even giving up my garantee for the Herta or Fugue E1. but is it wise or smart, not really E1 Fugue brings more to the table and Herta is the next META dpser for F2P. all in all it is more how much you Like Firefly.
E2 Firefly and save for 3.0. Just hold on, switching paths with HMC and wait for a Hypercarry support that provides Def ignore and All res pen.
I would say big yes. Damm Firefly clears all content.
Pulled her E2!!
Yes, she is god tier ❤
LC for the Xueyi the OG
Pulled for her. Even if someone else overshadows her or the meta shifts, idc. She’s my precious daughter 😭🙏🏻
Absolutely not worth pulling if you're going for meta, considering what has been seen in the beta - otherwise it is down to personal preference.
after seeing tribbie kit i would say so lololol
Short answer yes
Yes because every cn player got her to e6 😢 (how are they so rich)
Reruns absolutely usless in hsr
Not really. It is how you keep characters relevant if you enjoy them. DHIL for example: if you get his sig or an eidolon or two, he can keep up with end game. People showed off how just 1 eidolon on Jade can transform her into a god in MOC. Etc. So really it is only "useless" if you want a super easy time. Then sure, just get the shiny new toy every patch. Otherwise no, re-runs are very useful (dont get me started on Acheron or any support too.)
My E0 Firefly team is still clearing content in 1-3 cycles on autopilot. I think there's a real fear Hoyo will start putting in bosses that ignore break mechanics and render her useless, but you can just not run her on that side of MoC if a boss like that exists. Maybe in the future if things look dire I'll start vertically investing, but for now I'd rather try and use those pulls on Aglaea and her LC for the next meta instead.
don't worry about it, my testing so far with Attack Gear Critical gear and critical Damage gear. shows only a min max in Relics and Firefraud still does better then Archeron on characters you can not break. but Archeron 99% Critical and 150% critical Damage, well firefly doesn't need that high, just 50% critical 4000 Attack and 100% critical damage. those 2200 attack converts into 176 Free break. and firefraud Fireweakness is AUTO implant, it triggers even before he does Damage or Apply it.
Imaingine if it's both sides every MOC from 3.1 to the End of 5.x!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111111!????!???!?!
Compared to Archeron, Firefly didn't Dissapoint, such a firefraud... especially at E1 she doesn't dissapoint. first character I whaled on, and expected damage lower then Archeron.
Would I recommend Firefly to new player. unless you want to go E1 (which is where she starts to shine cause of skill points neutral. so can fit into any team). would I recommend at E0S0, not really cause then you are stuck with a Archeron where you need to build a team around. characters where you need to build a team around. is bad for NEW players.
When you have a mix match of characters and limited resources to level characters traces and grind relics. sorry see they always say not needed. E1 is cheaper then waiting for a year to get Ruan Mei Fugue Lingsha, and you can slot Firefly into any team.
Infact if you are a NEW player with a mix match of team, save for Lingsha it makes your life a whole lot easier. getting a character that can DPS Sustain Debuff Cleanse and can action advance her own summon. even if you hate Lingsha ... after playing with it for 10 min, you get over the hate in no time, cause how versatile she is.
NO.
pov: u lost your 50/50
The answer is yes. Ez pz.
get e2 ff with e1 fugue and you will do 2 million damage per hit like me lol im not lying i have uploaded in my channel
Is fugue e0 s0 an upgrade for e2 ff instead of hmc ?
No, she doesn't. If you want break dps, get the Rappa instead.
FF is tier 0 and is a very comfortable unit to beat the game with. Rappa relies on imaginary/fire weakness to perform well (and the game of course is heavily catering to her right now for this.) So no, it is a bit nuanced. FF never cares about element; she is boring and safe to clear end game content with. But, if someone has a Fugue or plans on getting Fugue, then sure. Rappa/Boot would be fantastic.
@GodofGoblins She has whole PF catered for her and bunch of AoE bosses. Also it is highly likely that the enemy would have either imaginary or fire weakness and this would allow her to carry. If enemy is weak to fire she will abuse Lingsha and if they are weak to imaginary she would deal most damage herself. She is full sp neutral so Lingsha can spam her skills like crazy unlike E0 FF. She has more shilled content for her, she has whole gamemode for her and wins more out of both Lingsha and Fugue than FF. Boothill has way too much competition with Feixiao for the same bosses while Rappa at least have 2 weeks to be still the best and after that she would still be very good because she would feed from mydei imaginary shilled offsides.
GOD I hate how strong The Herta will be.
GOD I can’t be happy for characters being strong. Let’s just gatekeep everything.
For F2P, if you have Rappa, you probably don't need Firefly. Rappa has AoE super break embedded in her kit too. While she can't implant her own weakness, she can bypass other weaknesses.
I already have BH so imma skip
With Fugue, Rappa is the best overall break character at E0S0 and Boothill the best break-boss killer at E0S0, so from a meta-perspective, Firefly isn't a good pull in almost-3.0 patch. And for new players, the best strategy is to invest into remembrance characters, not Firefly or even break characters because we don't know if Hoyo will keep the break meta "alive" or it's gonna be forgotten like DoT.
If you wanna use other MCs in the future and you dont already have Fugue...I would not pick her up. And remember...Firefly mains are the weirdest in the entire game. You really wanna join that rabbithole. 😅
This is like asking if it’s worth putting ketchup on fries, some people don’t like it but those people are stupid