Test Train Driver's Eye View: Derby to Preston

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  • Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
  • Join us for this Driver's Eye View trip from Derby to Preston Via Burton-on-Trent, Alrewas, Stafford, Crewe Basford Hall, Newton-le-Willows and Wigan North Western. This is the first of my new series of videos recording trips across the North on test trains which Network Rail use to judge the condition of their infrastructure. Filmed on 43274, with test coaches and 43257 trailing on 1Q47 PLPR1 infrastructure monitoring service on 24/10/2023.

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  • @Oskarjlee
    @Oskarjlee 11 месяцев назад +82

    So happy you're back, missed the amazing cab rides and content.

  • @paulmallett3576
    @paulmallett3576 11 месяцев назад +1

    Absolutely fascinating video. Thanks so much!

  • @garyfitzgerald4340
    @garyfitzgerald4340 10 месяцев назад +1

    That was absolutely fascinating. Thank you so much.... that journey around the Independent lines at Crewe was interminable but wonderful 🙂

  • @carlos_r_g_jr
    @carlos_r_g_jr 11 месяцев назад +1

    Welcome back

  • @theScotsman87
    @theScotsman87 9 месяцев назад

    bit late to the watch party. but great job with the video. nice camera setup and editing. interesting part of the network. interesting diagram on a typical wet British day!

  • @andrewholloway231
    @andrewholloway231 11 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you Ben for a really enjoyable video. Lovely cab ride. So, the Ribble Viaduct is in a bad way.

  • @jimpikoulis6726
    @jimpikoulis6726 11 месяцев назад

    Demolition Derby and there has to be a Tamworth Fast I mean really fast

  • @keithpeterson2651
    @keithpeterson2651 9 месяцев назад

    Promo SM 💔

  • @tango6nf477
    @tango6nf477 10 месяцев назад +33

    The Ribble Viaduct is a disgrace, it is a grade 2 listed building but the intention seems to be to allow it to rust into the river. Such neglect should not be allowed.

    • @miawgogo
      @miawgogo 10 месяцев назад +8

      deferred maintenance is how austerity manifests itself on the railway's

    • @michaeljohndennis2231
      @michaeljohndennis2231 8 месяцев назад

      They wasted so much money on HS2 that they could not be bothered to maintain existing lines - Network Rail is a disgrace, the trade unions are also too powerful

    • @anonthemous7437
      @anonthemous7437 8 месяцев назад +6

      ​@@michaeljohndennis2231 are you under the impression that somehow the unions want less works done on the railway, and would prefer it rot than to have jobs?

    • @najaB76
      @najaB76 4 месяца назад

      ​@@michaeljohndennis2231 False. HS2 has been funded by borrowing specifically for HS2.
      They didn't take money out of other pots to pay for it, which also means that cancelling Phase 2 didn't make money available for other purposes.

    • @micrashed
      @micrashed 2 месяца назад

      I imagine the North Union bridge will end up being declared unsafe and simply being demolished ( see Tramroad bridge, Southport rly School Lane Bridge and so on) - there are a lot of cast iron plate track beds over the Ribble and I cant imagine any of them being in rude health any more

  • @lesleyhirst3422
    @lesleyhirst3422 10 месяцев назад +16

    Happy to see another trip from you - I'd never seen the Liverpool independent line, so something new and great! Even more of a thrill was the Claymills crossing at 13 minutes in - the Victorian building on the left is the Claymills Pumping Station that I'm part of the team restoring and running - and the car behind the motorbike at the crossing gate is mine!

    • @johnwalker194
      @johnwalker194 10 месяцев назад +1

      Just read your comment and the other one about the storm and floods and realised I was around at the time having just got home from the Nuneham viaduct project ! The guy on the blue motorbike at claymills is me 😎 I remember wishing I'd took a snap of the test train not knowing it took one of us 😂 small world eh ?

  • @richardgriffiths5920
    @richardgriffiths5920 10 месяцев назад +15

    This is an amazing video, so precise and clear and I so love the scenery around the Derbyshire/Staffordshire border as it was well known to me in my rambling days in the early seventies with the CHA in Coventry. Another trip to savour and take in on wet rainy, windy and snowy afternoons in Atlantic Canada. Thank you for making my day Ben and keep up the hard earned good work you make in your productions for us avid railway buffs to enjoy.

  • @sorriaux.laurent1236
    @sorriaux.laurent1236 11 месяцев назад +8

    Merci pour cette belle vidéo, je suis conducteur de tramways de Lille France, merci encore

  • @steamisbest
    @steamisbest 11 месяцев назад +8

    Great video and what made it even better for some strange reason, not one advert.

  • @maxwellbowden9961
    @maxwellbowden9961 11 месяцев назад +5

    I like these British train videos, because the rain is always different

  • @darrenhillman8396
    @darrenhillman8396 11 месяцев назад +8

    You have a like and a new subscriber!
    Really interesting routing and a first for me was transiting the Liverpool Independent lines through Crewe.
    Good (timely) location captions, too.
    Great job! I look forward to the next one…!
    Best wishes from a retired S&T man (1977 - 2018).

  • @Edwards-videos-trains-planes
    @Edwards-videos-trains-planes 10 месяцев назад +5

    I was that boy at Warrington bank quay at the end of platform 4 thanks for the tones mate

  • @iantaf5559
    @iantaf5559 11 месяцев назад +7

    Thanks for this Ben, good to see you back. Looking forward to all the nooks and crannies you are going to be taking us to. Cheers

  • @brianlawrence7119
    @brianlawrence7119 11 месяцев назад +5

    nice to have you back brilliant video as usual thanks for time and effort

  • @emilskriverolesen521
    @emilskriverolesen521 11 месяцев назад +3

    Great cab ride in my favorite train Class 43 Hst Thanks 🇩🇰🇩🇰

  • @rninrvr
    @rninrvr 11 месяцев назад +13

    Ben nice to see you being able to post again. This is a very interesting video in that it both allows us to do a cab ride in an HST power car, but also see the aftereffects of that really bad storm tht eh UK had in the past week. The flooding is amazing and bad.

  • @petrolhead1960
    @petrolhead1960 11 месяцев назад +10

    I’m amazed how quiet the cab is. Really enjoyed this. Thank you.

    • @terry-wc9sw
      @terry-wc9sw 10 месяцев назад +1

      turn your sound up,
      it aint that quiet

    • @tonyhogwood4737
      @tonyhogwood4737 9 месяцев назад +1

      it is compared to a 66@@terry-wc9sw

    • @terry-wc9sw
      @terry-wc9sw 9 месяцев назад

      43,s are very noisy inside the cab also outside the cab too. are@@tonyhogwood4737

    • @Grid56
      @Grid56 Месяц назад

      Too quiet. Needs a mic in the "business room".

  • @TreePeace-qw8mb
    @TreePeace-qw8mb 11 месяцев назад +1

    Uk environment getting worst and worst and after leadership change last year

  • @philipalldred333
    @philipalldred333 11 месяцев назад +4

    Very enjoyable to watch and interesting, keep them coming A1*

  • @ramonwilliams5721
    @ramonwilliams5721 8 месяцев назад +2

    As a ex Fireman/Driver I really enjoyed your video, it’s a different world out there with you lads now.Kind regards🚂🚂🚂

  • @Redmanb11
    @Redmanb11 11 месяцев назад +2

    Been needing aa cabride fix after exhausting yours and Don Coffey's vids 😅

  • @georgemaund4964
    @georgemaund4964 11 месяцев назад +2

    Great film..... especially liked the Crewe independent, Earlestown/Parkside/Lowton and down slow/down goods approaching Preston....thanks.

  • @dave55uk
    @dave55uk 10 месяцев назад +2

    Great video. Loved the 'Ribble (falling to pieces) Viaduct' caption. Ace!

  • @beverleydobson3442
    @beverleydobson3442 11 месяцев назад +3

    whats with the constant looping of the sound? spoils it for me

    • @Redmanb11
      @Redmanb11 11 месяцев назад +3

      I'm guessing so we don't hear anything we're not supposed to, like radio transmissions etc, for legal reasons

    • @beneliastrains
      @beneliastrains  11 месяцев назад +2

      That's only until Lichfield as there was another driver in the cab. It doesn't affect it for long and it's better than having silence or driver-driver waffle in the audio.

  • @StuAnderson90
    @StuAnderson90 11 месяцев назад +3

    is the HST in the EPS or the general speed limit band? Great to see you back again Ben

    • @beneliastrains
      @beneliastrains  11 месяцев назад +3

      Cheers! HSTs can do HST speeds or normal linespeeds, not EPS. EPS is pendo and voyager only. In this case the train is not an HST - it's a traditional loco hauled train with mk2 and mk1 derived rolling stock and so can only do 100mph and normal line speeds.

  • @Freddy_507
    @Freddy_507 11 месяцев назад +3

    I like youtube because there are people like you. Thx

  • @peterbrackenbury
    @peterbrackenbury 10 месяцев назад +2

    Excellent. Thanks for the hard work in producing the videos, much appreciated. Look forward to future videos.

  • @martinmarsola6477
    @martinmarsola6477 11 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you for the video today, Ben. Always look forward to the ride. See you on the next. Cheers mates! 🇬🇧🙂👍🇺🇸

  • @LingLiu2014
    @LingLiu2014 11 месяцев назад +3

    Hi Ben good to see you back I miss those HSTs

  • @sosig1341
    @sosig1341 11 месяцев назад +3

    “Wake up babe, Ben is back”

  • @Martin_Adams184
    @Martin_Adams184 11 месяцев назад +3

    Thank you, Ben. An excellent trip; and it was especially welcome to have a glimpse of the Crewe Independent Lines.

  • @kierancunningham5997
    @kierancunningham5997 11 месяцев назад +2

    Ben that was an excellent video. Will watch the other videos that you are planning. Thanks

  • @martinrosenberg7490
    @martinrosenberg7490 11 месяцев назад +3

    Sehr gut., ein schönes Video. Danke.

  • @opensesame525
    @opensesame525 11 месяцев назад +2

    Great video.....being a local lad bit disconcerting to see the combination heading South from Derby initially given the destination, but all's well that ends well!!

  • @paulmark63
    @paulmark63 11 месяцев назад +2

    Ben that was a fabulous video well done looking forward to seeing some more what a train Paul in Kent

  • @DavidLancstrainspotting
    @DavidLancstrainspotting 11 месяцев назад +1

    43274 & 43257 due in Blackpool on friday i will video them as they pass Poulton-Le-Fylde on friday afternoon

  • @AndreiTupolev
    @AndreiTupolev 11 месяцев назад +3

    You're back! How excellent 😁

  • @leec2317
    @leec2317 11 месяцев назад +2

    At last!!!! Great to see you posting again, excellent videos.

  • @mrbluesky2050
    @mrbluesky2050 11 месяцев назад +3

    Excellent, some nice rare track there too, and good to see the goods lines at Preston back in use.

  • @barbaralcharles
    @barbaralcharles 11 месяцев назад +2

    Always look forward to a Ben Elias video.

  • @andyheyworth121
    @andyheyworth121 11 месяцев назад +1

    Nice video Ben and nice too see my stomping ground at the green footbridge at Euxton Balshaw Lane Junction from the cab view

  • @billy3424
    @billy3424 11 месяцев назад +1

    To think of all the bugs that hit the windscreen on all the trains, and vehicles, and yet the bugs keep coming...LOL

  • @wrigjo101
    @wrigjo101 11 месяцев назад +1

    Ben I have often teavels fro Crew to Blackpool, but never seen a train running the rickety viaduct!

  • @derplovestravel1777
    @derplovestravel1777 11 месяцев назад +2

    I find it hard to believe this is quieter than most trains today

  • @johnwalker194
    @johnwalker194 10 месяцев назад +1

    Wow ! Great video, i especially love the noise and hearing those turbos spool up 😊 as another viewer has stated, im in the video at claymills crossing on my motorbike having just finished a greggs corn beef slice and heading off on an adventure. I remember wishing I'd got a snap of the test train as it passed, not knowing it got one of me 😂 subscribed !!!

  • @michaelvoyzey1099
    @michaelvoyzey1099 10 месяцев назад +1

    Hi Ben glad to see uou back I really enjoyed this video and I will certainly be following the rest of the test train series you have fabulous

  • @Trainaviation
    @Trainaviation 10 месяцев назад +1

    I saw this at Preston. So funny to see me on a vid

  • @HSTPaul
    @HSTPaul 11 месяцев назад +2

    I was going to see the HST tour in London today, but this is a good way to spend my afternoon. Glad to see you uploading again.

  • @keninblack
    @keninblack 8 дней назад

    First time I've seen anything use the Ribble Viaduct (love the description by the way). I've seen some of the forums refer to it as the Cassandra Crossing 😆

  • @LeoMartinDJ
    @LeoMartinDJ 11 месяцев назад +1

    Fab video Ben. I took a photo of this working at Preston that day, think the video ends some 2 or so mins before I appeared lol!

  • @Grid56
    @Grid56 Месяц назад

    Everybody moaned when the HST ousted the Deltics , but god, I miss these fantastic machines.

  • @martinhew981
    @martinhew981 11 месяцев назад +1

    Excellent. I look forward to future videos. really interesting and great quality

  • @annawinters4346
    @annawinters4346 10 месяцев назад +1

    Peter Simons. I cant find your reply but thank you. 👍

  • @Midge-xn9tp
    @Midge-xn9tp 11 месяцев назад +1

    I drive for GWR but have always fancied doing the HST test train

  • @howardwilkinson2573
    @howardwilkinson2573 11 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks Ben looking forward to future uploads ribble viaduct reminds me of cassandra crossing

  • @bfapple
    @bfapple 11 месяцев назад +1

    Is Colas purchasing more Class 43s to replace the Class 37s?

  • @justinobrien3593
    @justinobrien3593 11 месяцев назад +2

    Nice to see these flying machines doing 110mph plus on test trains still! pitty they still ain't in passenger use as there is still loads of left in them!!! Nice video 🥰

    • @colinnich
      @colinnich 11 месяцев назад +1

      They are still in passenger use

  • @juliansadler6263
    @juliansadler6263 11 месяцев назад +1

    In Central Trains days we signed via Castle Donington but not via Alrewas. Our diversions would not have fitted around the City Line service! Thanks for the look at the the back road.

  • @OfficialRyanx
    @OfficialRyanx 11 месяцев назад +1

    Whilst I appreciate this is technically freight, was there a particular need for the paths to be routed via Helsby, Crewe sorting Yard and Earlestown?

    • @beneliastrains
      @beneliastrains  11 месяцев назад +1

      Yes, those lines need to be recorded to make sure they're safe for trains.

  • @jamiemcgowan6370
    @jamiemcgowan6370 9 дней назад

    Have you driven a train up the west highland line?? Think it stops at mallaig

  • @Grid56
    @Grid56 Месяц назад

    A bit of a misnomer calling the Crewe Independent line a fast line when it has a pathetic 15mph limit😂

  • @colchestercreek
    @colchestercreek 11 месяцев назад +1

    Ribble Viaduct (aka North Union Bridge) 1830s, I believe. Quite an engineering feat. A beautiful video. Thank you for sharing.

  • @GeoffLowe-f4q
    @GeoffLowe-f4q 10 месяцев назад +1

    A really interesting video with a fantastic route. Looking forward to other videos in this series

  • @deltic1964
    @deltic1964 11 месяцев назад +1

    Wow From my Local Station too Looking forward to this watching it Now

  • @chrsrwlns
    @chrsrwlns 11 месяцев назад +1

    Am I missing something here? I thought all class 43's had been taken out of service some time ago.

    • @cjmillsnun
      @cjmillsnun 11 месяцев назад +1

      Network Rail NMT..

  • @mikem6xmn838
    @mikem6xmn838 11 месяцев назад +1

    Great to have you back Ben, I enjoyed that Thank's. Mike👍👍👍

  • @deltic1964
    @deltic1964 11 месяцев назад +1

    Excellent Drivers Eye View this Fantastic watch

  • @A-Trainspotter-From-Berkshire
    @A-Trainspotter-From-Berkshire 11 месяцев назад +2

    Nice to see you have made a come back.

  • @jessicamorgan3073
    @jessicamorgan3073 11 месяцев назад +1

    Good to see you back, and thanks for a fab video.

  • @Gus0898uk
    @Gus0898uk 11 месяцев назад +1

    Great video, thanks for taking the time to post.😊

  • @jimmyhillschin9987
    @jimmyhillschin9987 11 месяцев назад +2

    Great video. I'm wondering: with the test trains, do they have particular speed limits to test? Or does this one count as an HST?

    • @beneliastrains
      @beneliastrains  11 месяцев назад +6

      This train is restricted to 100mph due to the coaches in the formation being MK2s. The NMT can do HST speeds but is currently running at 10mph below line speed due to isolated brakes.

    • @jimmyhillschin9987
      @jimmyhillschin9987 11 месяцев назад

      @@beneliastrains Nice, thanks Ben.

    • @davinahockin3536
      @davinahockin3536 11 месяцев назад

      I understood that all short HST sets are limited in max speed since most of the braking power is the coaches, not the two locos, so only the full length sets can do 125. One video with a startling ending is the last HST Plymouth to PDN. Two cameras, one each loco cab = interesting views! After Newberry once in the main line, the speed increases dramatically! I think I've never seen scenery going past so fast(!) As it was the last train (and one of the two locos was in the pair in the record-braking exploit of 145mph) I think the driver just opened the taps for the last bit of the run! The result was he arrived at PDN 15 minutes EARLY so had to wait at the station throat till the main arrival platform could be cleared of an earlier train, for him to enter!
      Filming from BOTH loco cabs gave added interest on the full length of that last very long GW HST journey. It IS a marathon to watch!

  • @agordonforme6797
    @agordonforme6797 11 месяцев назад +1

    Surprised by the lack of main line traffic. Would have liked some maps during trip to see where we where, especially at junctions.

    • @tomlee9534
      @tomlee9534 10 месяцев назад +1

      I’ve got Googlemaps open on my phone to follow. It’s very helpful.

  • @raymondflanagan9355
    @raymondflanagan9355 11 месяцев назад +1

    I believe the construction work before the chord onto the main line at Litchfield was the HS2 underpass, that will now not be used.

    • @beneliastrains
      @beneliastrains  11 месяцев назад +1

      That is indeed the HS2 underpass and it will still be used. It is just south of Handsacre where HS2 will join the WCML

    • @raymondflanagan9355
      @raymondflanagan9355 11 месяцев назад

      Ah right. Thanks

  • @pacolillo8153
    @pacolillo8153 11 месяцев назад +2

    Gracias Ben.
    Un gran vídeo para un excelente y precioso viaje.!!!
    Me encanta viajar en tren, y si el viaje es bajo la lluvia, entonces se convierte en una deliciosa melodía bailable, que deseo no acabe.
    Me encanta bailar con trenes.!!!
    Congratulations.!!!
    👏👏👏

    • @pacolillo8153
      @pacolillo8153 11 месяцев назад

      @@KahunaPepper ohhh!!! 🎶 Que lástima.!!! Me parece, que no estámos en el mismo tren.
      Perdón..🥰

    • @pacolillo8153
      @pacolillo8153 11 месяцев назад

      😘

    • @pacolillo8153
      @pacolillo8153 11 месяцев назад

      ...Respeto tu opinión.!!!

    • @pacolillo8153
      @pacolillo8153 10 месяцев назад

      Sabes una cosa...!!
      Nuestras opiniones y nuestros diferentes puntos de vista, no pueden, ni tienen que enturviar, el placer que representa, disfrutar de la misma y buena experiencia, que nos proporciona a tí y a mí, el placer de realizar un "viaje en tren".
      Simplemente es que lo estamos haciendo desde "ventanillas" diferentes.
      El viaje es el mismo.!!!
      Un fuerte abrazo

  • @michaelward2082
    @michaelward2082 11 месяцев назад +1

    Great video

  • @roboftherock
    @roboftherock 9 месяцев назад

    Not exactl;y the shortest route between DBY and PRE, but some interesting trackage covered. I'm curious to know why there are street lights on the 'Lichfield single'. They seem somewhat out of place.

  • @hamshackleton
    @hamshackleton 11 месяцев назад +1

    Lovely weather, Ben! It doesn't always rain up here in the Northwest!

  • @martinjh999
    @martinjh999 11 месяцев назад +1

    Nice one! I suspect while going fast fown the Main Line he wasn't getting anywhere near 220 in such an old loco...

    • @memediatek
      @memediatek 11 месяцев назад

      Those HSTs did regularly reach 225 kph, so I imagine he would have been.
      EDIT: saw that the coaches are based on Mk 2s so will be doing 160 kph/100 mph because of this, but the locos are more than capable

    • @martinjh999
      @martinjh999 11 месяцев назад

      @@memediatekI was thinking they were 47's for some reason - Yeah 43's would definitely be able to go the line speed for sure!

  • @transponderings
    @transponderings 10 месяцев назад

    At 31:33, there is someone taking photos trackside. Since the signaller must be aware, I assume they have permission. But shouldn’t they be wearing hi-vis in any case?

  • @davidfarrow44
    @davidfarrow44 8 месяцев назад

    Excellent video Ben watched part 2 first doh! Wondered where the 321's ended up after leaving my local line. Lots of lines ive never been down on cab rid video's. Thank you for posting.

  • @jerryhayes9497
    @jerryhayes9497 11 месяцев назад +1

    Flooding video 😅

  • @mikeryan959
    @mikeryan959 10 месяцев назад

    Although the OHLE knitting is probably the way forward, it is good to see mainline running without it.

  • @mrep9460
    @mrep9460 2 месяца назад

    Those wipers were useless 😂

  • @papagal22
    @papagal22 10 месяцев назад

    Hi there, I live in Nottingham so I am fairly close to Derby, I was wondering if there was a way to know when the class 43 about in the area? I would love to see one in operation since they are amazing. Thanks for this great video!

  • @JohnLavender
    @JohnLavender 10 месяцев назад

    Gotta love the LSL Preserved GMT Class 142 Pacer on the high Level line (R) at 01:15.20 ❤

  • @kevinarmstrong9467
    @kevinarmstrong9467 11 месяцев назад +1

    Welcome Back

  • @stephenbagwell8275
    @stephenbagwell8275 9 месяцев назад

    2:19:00 I used to stand on the right to watch trains before the houses were built. A couple of times I saw some of the last 8 HST Power Cars built with APT-P test trains

  • @laurenceskinnerton73
    @laurenceskinnerton73 11 месяцев назад +1

    Very good.

  • @PharaohDeathMask
    @PharaohDeathMask 11 месяцев назад

    Good quality filming (with very clean windscreen). I really enjoyed watching this. Thank You for the upload.

  • @anthonybutterfield1389
    @anthonybutterfield1389 10 месяцев назад

    The Ribble (falling to pieces) Viaduct reminded me of the film The Cassandra Crossing - and that's not a good thing! Great to have more videos from you Ben!

  • @annawinters4346
    @annawinters4346 10 месяцев назад

    What type of engine are we 'travelling' on?! Why are so many people taking photographs of us?

  • @stephenrice4554
    @stephenrice4554 10 месяцев назад

    What used to be called the track recorders , squirt out red paint on an area of twist etc . Good tools , and not seeing very many patrolmen extremely necessary..great video , must take some time to sew it together . Appreciated 👍🇬🇧

  • @am1187
    @am1187 10 месяцев назад

    Love having these on whilst WFH in the background
    Are you able to add a map (either live or intermittently) to show location ?

  • @terryashton3541
    @terryashton3541 10 месяцев назад

    Fantastic video Ben, some of these unusual routings are very interesting, Crewe Independent lines and especially the one around Earlstown, by far freight traffic is the most interesting to watch, for two reasons mainly, one the slower speeds enables us to enjoy more of the rail infrastructure and secondly the unusual routings, can't wait for the next video.

  • @ianhosier4042
    @ianhosier4042 6 месяцев назад

    Wouldn't it have been faster just to stay on the WCML and blast through Crewe station instead of taking that very slow diversion?

    • @beneliastrains
      @beneliastrains  6 месяцев назад +1

      The train is testing the tracks on all the routes it travels down.

    • @ianhosier4042
      @ianhosier4042 6 месяцев назад

      @@beneliastrains I was wondering what was meant by test train.

  • @Trainaviation
    @Trainaviation 10 месяцев назад

    Such a shame about ribble viaduct. If they don’t get it sorted then there’s gonna be a disaster