I co-main peach fox and putting them next to eachother is wrong. Fox is braindead. He plays neutral for you. He has 0-1 options for every situation so you dont have to worry about edgeguarding or OOS options or anti-approach. You're fox you just dont do those things. Meanwhile peach, even ignoring the tech barrier. Ignoring that she's the hardest character in the game to execute. She's still one of the hardest to play. Fair has 16 frames of startup and it's a staple of her kit. If you're going to use that move you have to know where they're going to be far in advance. It's like normal character's fair plus online. Her float gives all her aerials an extra dimension to master. Most characters have 3 analog choices for their aerials: early/late, approaching/retreating, fullhop/sh-fastfall. Peach can do things like float forward drift away, or fastfall and then float to stay in the air longer. She just gets all these extra options and none of them are oppressive/overcentralizing so you have to adapt to the situation. Her recovery is the opposite of Fox. Fox is bad but its free you just pick a direction and hope they mess up. Peach is good but it's slow and she can't recover low so you have to dodge all their edgeguarding attempts and actually play the mixup game. She can't fish for kills like characters with a grab or a kill confirm. Sometimes you kill with upair, sometimes with nair, bair, dash attack it's not the same plan every stock, and its rarely an easy lagless smash attack. tl;dr Peach is the hardest character in the game.
This is probably my favorite tier list video ever
This tier list made my friend decide to secondary mii gunner
Best tier list I’ve seen.
Been looking forward to this
He put Peach and Pikachu in S tier lmao.
100% accuracy
stars are on his up b because it's lore accurate silly noob
Looks legit
I co-main peach fox and putting them next to eachother is wrong. Fox is braindead. He plays neutral for you. He has 0-1 options for every situation so you dont have to worry about edgeguarding or OOS options or anti-approach. You're fox you just dont do those things.
Meanwhile peach, even ignoring the tech barrier. Ignoring that she's the hardest character in the game to execute. She's still one of the hardest to play. Fair has 16 frames of startup and it's a staple of her kit. If you're going to use that move you have to know where they're going to be far in advance. It's like normal character's fair plus online. Her float gives all her aerials an extra dimension to master. Most characters have 3 analog choices for their aerials: early/late, approaching/retreating, fullhop/sh-fastfall. Peach can do things like float forward drift away, or fastfall and then float to stay in the air longer. She just gets all these extra options and none of them are oppressive/overcentralizing so you have to adapt to the situation.
Her recovery is the opposite of Fox. Fox is bad but its free you just pick a direction and hope they mess up. Peach is good but it's slow and she can't recover low so you have to dodge all their edgeguarding attempts and actually play the mixup game.
She can't fish for kills like characters with a grab or a kill confirm. Sometimes you kill with upair, sometimes with nair, bair, dash attack it's not the same plan every stock, and its rarely an easy lagless smash attack.
tl;dr Peach is the hardest character in the game.
pretty funny teir list but ken tho at least ken has imputs and his combos are difficult so I'd put him at a solid c tier
But that just becomes muscle memory, it’s not hard at all
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