The problem as I see it with starting your own packing plant is that the FDA makes it so hard to do that because politicians and bureaucrats are in JBS, Smithfield, and Tyson's pocketbooks! And, if you do get one started, you are continually being undercut by the big packers to make you go out of business. The other problem is that nobody wants one "in their backyard" because they don't want to deal with the smell or the issues with the labor pool. Hell, the head of Poet actually spent 4 million dollars to try and block one that's some farmers were going to put up by Sioux Falls because he thought it was too close to his mansion.
Our owner watches every episode and is a huge fan ranches in Texas and build a bad ass All American made cooler that we know you would dig. We would love the opportunity to introduce you and have him on. Wayne even said he'll buy the next whiskey minute. Not to mention the Calvary stampede in his desk drawer right now.
Man I could bore a lot of people ranting about profit worship destroying the country our grandfathers built. I get real dark too. But I found local guys raising beef and pork using local butchers and stopped buying from the monopolies. It’s not much but it’s a start.
Supporting your local businesses and farms is the way to go, don't give money to the big corps who siphon all the earnings away out of the community rather than reinvesting and spending locally!
WhT made my life so simple. I check my phone 3 times a day Breakfast, lunch (dinner) and supper. Just like the old days. Don t feel that your that important.
Would all of the consolidation have been impossible without the federal reserve’s historically artificially low interest rates? Massive debts and sickness James Carlin reminds us that the vertically integrated food system is NOT broken and is working exactly like it was designed👌
Make a run at the spiral cut honey ham business. Add lobster Jacob Knowls, main lobsters rolls and Luke Mcfadden Marland crabs. Add as coop shipping members. Add sesfood. Trout. Buy in season, sell all year.
Turn the methane into electricity, fuel, hempanol, great feed, human and animals. Hemp lego building blocks, r35, strong as concrete. Edison Motors makes a solar generator trailer. You deliver to shipper. Frozen, pallets on off. Trade pork for merch beef seafood. Honey spiral cut hams. Your goal.
Just got to catch up with the latest episode! Great talk fellas! Got to thinking about some of what you were saying about competition so I went to chat gpt and asked if this ….. Building a pig processing plant in central Iowa with a high level of automation involves several key considerations, including initial capital investment, operating costs, and the market price of pork. Let’s break down the process and estimate the costs: 1. Initial Capital Investment: • Land and Construction: The cost will vary based on location and the size of the facility. A typical processing plant may require around 50-100 acres, depending on scale. Land costs in Iowa can range from $5,000 to $15,000 per acre. Construction costs can vary significantly but could range from $10 million to $50 million for a fully automated facility. • Equipment: Automated equipment, including slaughtering, cutting, packaging, and waste management systems, could cost between $10 million and $30 million, depending on the level of automation and scale. • Technology and Infrastructure: This includes IT systems, refrigeration, waste treatment, and utilities. Costs could range from $5 million to $15 million. Total Initial Investment Estimate: $25 million to $95 million. 2. Operating Costs: • Labor: Even with high automation, skilled technicians, engineers, and administrative staff are needed. Annual labor costs could range from $1 million to $5 million. • Maintenance and Utilities: These costs include regular maintenance of equipment, energy, water, and waste management. Annual costs could range from $2 million to $8 million. • Raw Material (Pigs): The cost of purchasing pigs depends on the market price. As of recent data, live hog prices are around $0.60 to $0.80 per pound. For a plant processing 1,000 hogs per day (average weight 280 lbs), this translates to approximately $168,000 to $224,000 daily, or $60 million to $80 million annually. • Other Costs: Packaging, transportation, and other miscellaneous expenses could add another $1 million to $3 million annually. Total Annual Operating Costs Estimate: $64 million to $96 million. 3. Cost of Production: • Per Pound Cost: Considering the initial investment, operating costs, and a reasonable return on investment, the production cost per pound of pork could be estimated. Assuming the plant processes 300,000 pigs annually (with an average yield of 150 lbs of meat per pig), the total production would be approximately 45 million pounds of pork per year. Estimated Production Cost per Pound: • Low Estimate: $64 million / 45 million lbs = $1.42 per lb • High Estimate: $96 million / 45 million lbs = $2.13 per lb 4. Comparison to Current Prices: • As of recent data, the wholesale price of pork can range from $1.50 to $3.00 per pound, depending on the cut and market conditions. The retail price is generally higher, often ranging from $3.00 to $5.00 per pound or more. Conclusion: The cost of producing pork in a highly automated processing plant in central Iowa appears to be competitive with current wholesale prices. However, this estimate is highly sensitive to market conditions, the level of automation, and scale. The initial capital investment is significant, but the efficiency gained through automation could result in lower operating costs and a competitive price point for locally produced pork. Would you like a more detailed breakdown or additional considerations for specific automation technologies? …… Asked it to estimate the cost of a new hog processing plant in central Iowa and estimate a cost to produce at current prices and that is what it gave me back. How did it do on costs? Just curious! Keep up the quality content!
Here in the northeast back in the 80s the big time was agway with a grain, fuel , or fertilizer store in about every town that had train access. But even the big can fall.
Grew up on a small farm and loved the local farming community. The money has been stolen from the small farmer for decades through horrible government regulations and lack of a backbone. Dudes are paying $1.25 for a can of corn but complain about $15 for a pound of steak that has probably 20 cans of corn in it.
Hay guys: What about selling buffelo? Seems to me you could back into this without a big outlay. As using other's product with mutual leverage on both sides to at least open another market.
Traditional Country Ham methods: ruclips.net/video/IqG8LmthWX0/видео.html the channel has a few other episodes focused on making traditional country hams.
Call me a protectionist or mercantilist but having our AG equipment production moved to Mexico is a national security issue and should be banned. The technology was developed here and is overwhelmingly used here so why just piss it all away.
31:24 that’s exactly what I said why the fuck is she the candidate when RFK should’ve been the candidate for the Democrats, but they wouldn’t let them because they wanted Biden to be the candidate
I fail to see how you can talk about economic issues related to farming, etc. when you haven't even researched how good Trump was for farmers in 2017-2020. How good was he for the economy overall? PIss and moan about COVID? Trump was President. Kudos to Trump for Operation Warp Speed that developed MRNA vaccines that saved millions of lives. Have they given people horrible side effects or death? If that were true Russia and China would tell you about it considering they did not use MRNA vaccines but developed their own vaccines.
Relax big andrew tate man, they addressed the fact that trumps trade war with China hurt the ag marketing some, but they also addressed the facts that Uncle Donny's 4 corn cash flows a hell of a lit better than sleepy Joe's 4 dollar corn.
@@AndrewTate2Prison Previous episodes big shot, just don't go ripping them down after you watch 5 minutes of one of their podcasts. They are good dudes that say what they honestly think. Relax.
Didn’t talk about trump at the BTC conference and missed the price on the market update. Today 8-4-24 btc:58,500 eth: 2750. Crypto is going to save the small family farms
The problem as I see it with starting your own packing plant is that the FDA makes it so hard to do that because politicians and bureaucrats are in JBS, Smithfield, and Tyson's pocketbooks! And, if you do get one started, you are continually being undercut by the big packers to make you go out of business. The other problem is that nobody wants one "in their backyard" because they don't want to deal with the smell or the issues with the labor pool. Hell, the head of Poet actually spent 4 million dollars to try and block one that's some farmers were going to put up by Sioux Falls because he thought it was too close to his mansion.
On my 5th duramax since 2001 no issues just drive, couple electrical issues in 24 years
Farmers buy everything at retail and sell everything at wholesale!
Our owner watches every episode and is a huge fan ranches in Texas and build a bad ass All American made cooler that we know you would dig. We would love the opportunity to introduce you and have him on. Wayne even said he'll buy the next whiskey minute. Not to mention the Calvary stampede in his desk drawer right now.
Man I could bore a lot of people ranting about profit worship destroying the country our grandfathers built. I get real dark too. But I found local guys raising beef and pork using local butchers and stopped buying from the monopolies. It’s not much but it’s a start.
Supporting your local businesses and farms is the way to go, don't give money to the big corps who siphon all the earnings away out of the community rather than reinvesting and spending locally!
Been missing my fix of barn talk
JRE, KillTony, and this..
All the news you need
The best farm truck is a truck that’s paid off- our 1985 Chevy K20 is working very good
WhT made my life so simple. I check my phone 3 times a day
Breakfast, lunch (dinner) and supper. Just like the old days. Don t feel that your that important.
Would all of the consolidation have been impossible without the federal reserve’s historically artificially low interest rates?
Massive debts and sickness
James Carlin reminds us that the vertically integrated food system is NOT broken and is working exactly like it was designed👌
Make a run at the spiral cut honey ham business. Add lobster Jacob Knowls, main lobsters rolls and Luke Mcfadden Marland crabs. Add as coop shipping members. Add sesfood. Trout. Buy in season, sell all year.
Turn the methane into electricity, fuel, hempanol, great feed, human and animals. Hemp lego building blocks, r35, strong as concrete. Edison Motors makes a solar generator trailer. You deliver to shipper. Frozen, pallets on off. Trade pork for merch beef seafood. Honey spiral cut hams. Your goal.
Just got to catch up with the latest episode! Great talk fellas! Got to thinking about some of what you were saying about competition so I went to chat gpt and asked if this ….. Building a pig processing plant in central Iowa with a high level of automation involves several key considerations, including initial capital investment, operating costs, and the market price of pork. Let’s break down the process and estimate the costs:
1. Initial Capital Investment:
• Land and Construction: The cost will vary based on location and the size of the facility. A typical processing plant may require around 50-100 acres, depending on scale. Land costs in Iowa can range from $5,000 to $15,000 per acre. Construction costs can vary significantly but could range from $10 million to $50 million for a fully automated facility.
• Equipment: Automated equipment, including slaughtering, cutting, packaging, and waste management systems, could cost between $10 million and $30 million, depending on the level of automation and scale.
• Technology and Infrastructure: This includes IT systems, refrigeration, waste treatment, and utilities. Costs could range from $5 million to $15 million.
Total Initial Investment Estimate: $25 million to $95 million.
2. Operating Costs:
• Labor: Even with high automation, skilled technicians, engineers, and administrative staff are needed. Annual labor costs could range from $1 million to $5 million.
• Maintenance and Utilities: These costs include regular maintenance of equipment, energy, water, and waste management. Annual costs could range from $2 million to $8 million.
• Raw Material (Pigs): The cost of purchasing pigs depends on the market price. As of recent data, live hog prices are around $0.60 to $0.80 per pound. For a plant processing 1,000 hogs per day (average weight 280 lbs), this translates to approximately $168,000 to $224,000 daily, or $60 million to $80 million annually.
• Other Costs: Packaging, transportation, and other miscellaneous expenses could add another $1 million to $3 million annually.
Total Annual Operating Costs Estimate: $64 million to $96 million.
3. Cost of Production:
• Per Pound Cost: Considering the initial investment, operating costs, and a reasonable return on investment, the production cost per pound of pork could be estimated. Assuming the plant processes 300,000 pigs annually (with an average yield of 150 lbs of meat per pig), the total production would be approximately 45 million pounds of pork per year.
Estimated Production Cost per Pound:
• Low Estimate: $64 million / 45 million lbs = $1.42 per lb
• High Estimate: $96 million / 45 million lbs = $2.13 per lb
4. Comparison to Current Prices:
• As of recent data, the wholesale price of pork can range from $1.50 to $3.00 per pound, depending on the cut and market conditions. The retail price is generally higher, often ranging from $3.00 to $5.00 per pound or more.
Conclusion:
The cost of producing pork in a highly automated processing plant in central Iowa appears to be competitive with current wholesale prices. However, this estimate is highly sensitive to market conditions, the level of automation, and scale. The initial capital investment is significant, but the efficiency gained through automation could result in lower operating costs and a competitive price point for locally produced pork.
Would you like a more detailed breakdown or additional considerations for specific automation technologies? ……
Asked it to estimate the cost of a new hog processing plant in central Iowa and estimate a cost to produce at current prices and that is what it gave me back. How did it do on costs? Just curious! Keep up the quality content!
Good talk boys! I enjoyed this episode a lot
Here in the northeast back in the 80s the big time was agway with a grain, fuel , or fertilizer store in about every town that had train access. But even the big can fall.
Grew up on a small farm and loved the local farming community. The money has been stolen from the small farmer for decades through horrible government regulations and lack of a backbone. Dudes are paying $1.25 for a can of corn but complain about $15 for a pound of steak that has probably 20 cans of corn in it.
Elcamino
Nice I’m glad I found this😊
Can I get the old-fashioned R
Love the podcast keep up the great work
Depending on heavy you want to pull I'd say get then new GMC 6 cylinder diesel
Hay guys:
What about selling buffelo? Seems to me you could back into this without a big outlay. As using other's product with mutual leverage on both sides to at least open another market.
How to sell your competitors business 🤔run it
So a Chevy guy is going to but a chevy...shocking 😮😂
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Let them set up shop in another Country but, tax them hard when they bring goods back into the country!
Traditional Country Ham methods: ruclips.net/video/IqG8LmthWX0/видео.html the channel has a few other episodes focused on making traditional country hams.
Ram moved to Mexico and had no value gained from doing so.
The truth is
Paint it green and they will buy it
Call me a protectionist or mercantilist but having our AG equipment production moved to Mexico is a national security issue and should be banned. The technology was developed here and is overwhelmingly used here so why just piss it all away.
31:24 that’s exactly what I said why the fuck is she the candidate when RFK should’ve been the candidate for the Democrats, but they wouldn’t let them because they wanted Biden to be the candidate
NO RFK HE sounds Older than Biden 😮
RFK is a great middleground.
@@capps2015 I'm staying Where I've been my entire life With FATHER GOD and Republicans.
@capps2015
RFK is a democrat, and will vote with the democrats.
@@mikekahl4745 No joke. He already Betrayed Trump by recording him.
@capps2015 not the brightest are you
I like the show, however have to stop watching due to all the unnecessary swearing.
Not this woman
I fail to see how you can talk about economic issues related to farming, etc. when you haven't even researched how good Trump was for farmers in 2017-2020. How good was he for the economy overall? PIss and moan about COVID? Trump was President. Kudos to Trump for Operation Warp Speed that developed MRNA vaccines that saved millions of lives. Have they given people horrible side effects or death? If that were true Russia and China would tell you about it considering they did not use MRNA vaccines but developed their own vaccines.
Relax big andrew tate man, they addressed the fact that trumps trade war with China hurt the ag marketing some, but they also addressed the facts that Uncle Donny's 4 corn cash flows a hell of a lit better than sleepy Joe's 4 dollar corn.
@@cjcoughlin5041 what are the time stamps for that? To be clear I think Andrew Tate should be in prison. Settle down Beavis.
@@AndrewTate2Prison Previous episodes big shot, just don't go ripping them down after you watch 5 minutes of one of their podcasts. They are good dudes that say what they honestly think. Relax.
@@cjcoughlin5041 I agree that they are good guys but that doesn't mean they know wtf they are talking about.
Didn’t talk about trump at the BTC conference and missed the price on the market update. Today 8-4-24 btc:58,500 eth: 2750. Crypto is going to save the small family farms
They're always way off on precious metals prices too