With Virgin Australia codesharing with United, I just look for the VA flight number on the original United flight. It's actually great for Virgin, since they don't fly to the US anymore
Worst codeshare I have struck was Qantas off-loading me in Sydney from a direct 747-400 to Bangkok which was replaced by an A330 but, due to lack of capacity, a handful of other passengers and myself were flown to Melbourne and put on the Jetstar operated codeshare from Melbourne to Bangkok. Jetstar had only loaded pre-ordered refreshments though so all the rerouted Qantas passengers got to fast all the way to Bangkok after paying about A$400.00 more for our tickets.
I never flew on a codeshare flight, but after reading your comment, I hope I never will. I understand it's way cheaper than operating direct flights between to cities even if they're in complete opposite ends of the world. But I can only imagine people getting frustrated when they expect boarding an ANA flight but they're onboard Air India. I am from Bangladesh and recently, Air Canada and Biman Bangladesh Airlines have launched a codeshare agreement. I don't think it will end well. But if it does I hope they start operating actual flights between the 2 countries which Biman does but not Air Canada.
@@jermainehassan 1. It's not just cheaper, it's often the only possible solution. Outside of Europe it's extremely rare for an airline from one country to be allowed to operate domestic connections in another country or international connections betwen foreign countries - e.g. Lufthansa will never have a flight between, say, Austin and Las Vegas or from Montreal to Anchorage - or United will never have a flight from Munich to Berlin or fron Munich to Warsaw. You can look up "freedoms of the air" for more details, Wendover Productions has a good video about it 2. It's not like codeshare flights are done jn secret, whenever you purchase a ticket the operating airline has to be mentioned there. If you don't want to fly on codeshares - just don't buy codeshare tickets, but be prepared to only be able to travel to major cities and top tourist destinations, otherwise you're going to have to change airlines.
First time I flew alone from Helsinki to Oslo was a codesharing flight and I was so confused on what to do or where to go and if I were on the right flight. I was 13 years old but the staff at Finnair were fantastic guiding me to the right gate and explained what was happening
That's something we can add to the list, make sure to drop it in the form link you can find in the comments, detailed video ideas and from there we can make note of it formally : )
5:29 Codesharing always rips off the customers. 11 years ago I bought a ticket from Delta Airlines. But on the long haul flight I was shocked and disappointed to find out why I'm boarding the lower quality Vietnam Airlines... essentially not getting the standard of service (the age and quality of aircraft) I paid for.
Im looking at booking a flight from dublin to lax, with american airlines but operated by aer lingus. So does that mean ill be flying with american airlines or aer lingus flight ?
Another “con” of codesharing is the inability to manage bookings (e.g. seat selections, special meal) unlike when the marketing and operating carrier are the same.
Do airlines also share ground handling staff if they are being a part of the same airline alliance? At least Maintenance staff?.... I know it's off the topic but just like to know.
Fun and not so fun fact: Did you know Swissair 111 which had an unfortunate crash on September 2nd, 1998 had Delta Air Lines codeshare that particular flight We all know Swissair 111 is known as the UN Shuttle between New York and Geneva.
Sounds a lot like collusive trading to me, which is not good for fair trading or customers as it limits competition, thereby making it more expensive for the customers, how is this even legal.
i don't wish to have code sharing explained. i want to be treated decently by airline employees, to NOT have my luggage items stolen, to NOT have my luggage lost and to not have passengers become assholes thousands of feet in the air. Airlines cannot execute that so i don't fly.
Great video loving these explainer videos
With Virgin Australia codesharing with United, I just look for the VA flight number on the original United flight. It's actually great for Virgin, since they don't fly to the US anymore
Worst codeshare I have struck was Qantas off-loading me in Sydney from a direct 747-400 to Bangkok which was replaced by an A330 but, due to lack of capacity, a handful of other passengers and myself were flown to Melbourne and put on the Jetstar operated codeshare from Melbourne to Bangkok. Jetstar had only loaded pre-ordered refreshments though so all the rerouted Qantas passengers got to fast all the way to Bangkok after paying about A$400.00 more for our tickets.
I never flew on a codeshare flight, but after reading your comment, I hope I never will. I understand it's way cheaper than operating direct flights between to cities even if they're in complete opposite ends of the world. But I can only imagine people getting frustrated when they expect boarding an ANA flight but they're onboard Air India.
I am from Bangladesh and recently, Air Canada and Biman Bangladesh Airlines have launched a codeshare agreement. I don't think it will end well. But if it does I hope they start operating actual flights between the 2 countries which Biman does but not Air Canada.
@@jermainehassan
1. It's not just cheaper, it's often the only possible solution. Outside of Europe it's extremely rare for an airline from one country to be allowed to operate domestic connections in another country or international connections betwen foreign countries - e.g. Lufthansa will never have a flight between, say, Austin and Las Vegas or from Montreal to Anchorage - or United will never have a flight from Munich to Berlin or fron Munich to Warsaw. You can look up "freedoms of the air" for more details, Wendover Productions has a good video about it
2. It's not like codeshare flights are done jn secret, whenever you purchase a ticket the operating airline has to be mentioned there. If you don't want to fly on codeshares - just don't buy codeshare tickets, but be prepared to only be able to travel to major cities and top tourist destinations, otherwise you're going to have to change airlines.
First time I flew alone from Helsinki to Oslo was a codesharing flight and I was so confused on what to do or where to go and if I were on the right flight. I was 13 years old but the staff at Finnair were fantastic guiding me to the right gate and explained what was happening
I continued from Oslo the bergen with the same flight as booked
I would have hoped your parents would have prepared you!
Every time i've flown United it's felt like flying on a low-cost airline while paying a premium
Can you talk about the C919 which recently got certified? Great video.
A very thorough review of code sharing, detailing the pros and cons. 👍👍 Dan!
Thanks a bunch Lon for the support, we appreciate it!
Thanks DJ 😊
About air-rail alliances: did you know Amtrak used to have a codeshare with United? They ended it a couple years ago sadly
Great vid as always Dan🎉
Thank you so much!
Nice video, keep it up!
Thanks, will do!
Love thus channel can debate about aviation keep it up plus u guys reply back
Thanks!
Thank you so much for the information
Thank you
Thanks for the explanation, first time people come across a code share at the gate it can be confusing
100% you're right there, it can be quite confusing on a board
Can you kindly talk about Lufthansa airline pilots monthly payments
That's something we can add to the list, make sure to drop it in the form link you can find in the comments, detailed video ideas and from there we can make note of it formally : )
5:29 Codesharing always rips off the customers. 11 years ago I bought a ticket from Delta Airlines. But on the long haul flight I was shocked and disappointed to find out why I'm boarding the lower quality Vietnam Airlines... essentially not getting the standard of service (the age and quality of aircraft) I paid for.
Yeah … always 😂 it’s not like it’s easier to connect thru the world nooo it rips you off 😂
Im looking at booking a flight from dublin to lax, with american airlines but operated by aer lingus. So does that mean ill be flying with american airlines or aer lingus flight ?
Does codesharing airlines have Same PNR for different airlines?
I just booked with delta flying with virgin Atlantic both numbers are different
Sometimes yes, sometimes no. But you can see the other PNRs on your ticket
Another “con” of codesharing is the inability to manage bookings (e.g. seat selections, special meal) unlike when the marketing and operating carrier are the same.
Could Hawaiian airlines get new narrow body aircraft soon
Do airlines also share ground handling staff if they are being a part of the same airline alliance? At least Maintenance staff?.... I know it's off the topic but just like to know.
Depends on where it is but the short answer is yes.
Some newer airports have being built with alliances in mind so all the resources and staff available can work under one roof.
Fun and not so fun fact: Did you know Swissair 111 which had an unfortunate crash on September 2nd, 1998 had Delta Air Lines codeshare that particular flight
We all know Swissair 111 is known as the UN Shuttle between New York and Geneva.
Why did DL codeshare? I thought Swissair was part of Star (and partnered with UA)?
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Legend, thanks John!
Sounds a lot like collusive trading to me, which is not good for fair trading or customers as it limits competition, thereby making it more expensive for the customers, how is this even legal.
As much I agree with you, it won't be as much beneficial to certain airlines if they just launch a new route as it's expensive.
i don't wish to have code sharing explained. i want to be treated decently by airline employees, to NOT have my luggage items stolen, to NOT have my luggage lost and to not have passengers become assholes thousands of feet in the air. Airlines cannot execute that so i don't fly.