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TBC Classic was nearly 2 years ago, and as the time passes, people only begin to miss it more.
Today I go over the defining features of WoW's first expansion and how it was during its Classic re-release.
But the ultimate question is - will Blizzard ever provide TBC specific server ever again?
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Every year I make a new character in RO on steam and level the shit out of them. It’ll never be the same as back in the day, but it’s still fun and nostalgic to see those adorable graphics + awesome music. Want To Be Free stays in my head rent free ❤
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blizard is a necromancer
they claim they can res ald content but all they do is raise skeletons of what once was and adding silly hats
Blizzard killed TBC classic by allowing bots and gold sellers to pillage the open world which incentivized gold buying and raid logging.
Farming netherbloom? too bad there are 2 druid bots sitting on each node spawn.
Warmane private server will release TBC on the Onyxia realm really soon :)
Tbc nostalgia thirst is a perfect example of you never know what you have until it's gone.
Warmane private server will release TBC on the Onyxia realm really soon :)
@@TiaguinhoMu cashgrab onyxia mess, hell nah
@@Hummelz5 warmane in general is cashgrab garbage. if you wanna p2w, just play retail.
TBC was terrible and everone asking for it is a smooth brain.
Yeah i didn't drink or try bi experience in college i was busy playing wow
I'd love a classic TBC eternal server
Ironically that was the only reason I started Classic Vanilla, but then had to quit WoW due to life just before TBC came out, after playing the shit out of Classic.
Then I ended up being happy I didn't play TBC cause it turned out that it wasn't a permanent server
Warmane private server will release TBC on the Onyxia realm really soon :)
@@TiaguinhoMuit’s warmane tho
@@movieboxpro8715and?
you can't do eternal servers on any xpac besides vanilla. wanna know why? pvp seasons need to end for titles, thats exactly why they didnt do any era, althought they could like reset the xpac after 2 years that would be lit
I'd love TBC classic again. Best expansion imo.
This.
Being a DPS sucked. 1 button rotation for most classes@@thedude2738
criminal that we didn't get TBC era servers
TBC was truly the peak. Everyone thought it was WOTLK but that's "shiny new thing" syndrome and people love Arthus. But the game itself, TBC was peak. It was truly Classic+ while WOTLK felt like the first game changing expansion
Yea because you Finally could a class in wrath unlike Pressing 1 Button for your rotation …
Wrath was better but tbc is my childhood
I disagree, flying killed the open world and made the game into a hub based piece of shit with the same fundamental gameplay loop as retail, just with classic gameplay and less modes of play.
Gameplay improved in many respects, but I hated the new lands/zones of TBC. I also feel like flying mounts ruined some aspects of the game.
Naa the boring crusade was too easy and still lacked spells and complexity
Tbc starting at Level 1 would be awesome
Fresh TBC launches are among the only things better than a fresh vanilla launch imo
YES!
tbc classic was my first ever experience playing wow. so i started at lvl 1 and it was insanely amazing. instantly hooked for weeks until my friend got perma banned for a false botting report.
Id rather start at lvl 60.
@@hinterlandrider5300 You mean 58? ;)
PLEASE bring back TBC. It's still my favorite xpac. The best version given it expands a bit on classic, makes professions very important, and doesn't go too far as Wrath did. Here's hoping!
EDIT: Zangarmarsh music is purely angelic and is some of the best in the game.
Yeah the music in Zangarmarsh is great, also Terrokar forest and Nagrand
TBC aka gold buyers expansion
That's every version of wow, if you can't figure that out you're on strong copium @cunix8721
@@cunix8721 Fun at parties, huh
@@OrionStarzz and Shattrath - Azuremyst
I'd play TBC Classic again in a heartbeat!
I have no clue why they didn’t leave even 1 server of TBC for people to camp on. Even if like 10 people played it, it’d be such an easy win as far as “caring about the community” goes. Activision Blizzard is a multi billion dollar company, there’s no way the cost of running one server would even be a penny comparatively
At the end of the day it's just a server, like any other, so it really doesn't make a difference if it is TBC or WOTLK
"Too many wow versions" is a real problem they have. Between Cataclysm era, classic, Season of Discovery, Retail and a side of Remix, they're already juggling a lot, and aside from new player confusion, spreading their playerbase too thin is a concern. TBC era would not attract many new subscribers, so everything they did there would be directly away from classic and especially the upcoming WotLK, so I think it's understandable that Blizzard chose to axe it, as having one active server is much better than a handful that are on their death throes.
There's also definitely maintenance overhead since they have to have all of the pipelines up and active, but I imagine that not wanting to splinter the playerbase was the primary reason.
this guy gets it
prob cause it sucked
you want a server for each expansion, or...?
Like how spread thin *do* you want the dev team to be? how are you not satisfied with 3 separate game versions and 8 different modes of gameplay?
I mained a shadow priest during TBC Classic and it was the most fun I've had during Classic WoW. I'd love to go back and do it again.
I weirdly loved being the mana battery. Everyone wanted you in their group 🥲
Also played a Shadow Priest in TBC Classic, never had more random people actually compliment me on how bonkers my dmg was.
TBC is nice if you played the classes that were demand, as TBC was all about min maxing your group with optimal party buffs. It's a bit less nice if you played a rogue, a tank warrior, a healing paladin, etc etc
TBC is the best expansion by far, and arguably the best version of the game in general. It’s a polished vanilla with some of the best raids of all time.
It is 👍
it´s the best expansion... no doubts
Honestly yeah. I thought Wrath was, but after playing through both, TBC was better as far as the vanilla feel goes
Atleast make the holy paladins a bit more interesting. Lower the cd on holy shock to 6sec or add Beacon of Light
I can agree with that. I personally didn't like how outland took so much away from azeroth though.
TBC era servers would make me renew my subscription yep. Been playing TBC on the fresh addonless private server for the past month since its launch, it's been great. Claiming that there wouldn't be enough players to be able to support tbc era servers is a fallacy; it would bring a lot of people back, the people who quit during and after wotlk.
On the other hand, I don't think Blizzard will give tbc era servers anytime soon. I fear they'll want to hype them up in a Blizzcon beforehand, and those servers weren't mentioned in the roadmap given last year, so we'll probably have to wait for them for over a year, still.
Server name? I’m interested!
@@Persepolis-o2b Skullcrusher
@@Dalzeduri don’t understand what you are saying specifically with this about the servers?
Can you elaborate?
@@ThorBB Era server = a set of realms (pve, pvp, rp, rp-pvp) all of which are using a particular version of WoW which aren't seasonal or reset after enough time passes since the realm's start. You make a character at level 1, level it to 60, afk for 3 years, and your lvl 60 character is still there when you come back after being away for 3 years.
Currently the only era server available is that of vanilla classic: max lvl 60, no outlands, no jewelcrafting etc. They left an option to play the classic vanilla, while progressing on to the next expansion (which was tbc), then once tbc classic ran its course, they forced the characters to migrate to wotlk realms and shut down the tbc realms, then after wotlk ran its course, they migrated the characters to cataclysm realms and shut down wotlk realms. If they had kept those tbc and wotlk realms around, they would have become era servers for those two expansions.
So basically, you can currently play vanilla classic, hardcore classic vanilla, season of discovery, cataclysm classic, and retail (the war within). You cannot play tbc or wotlk, because they shut down those servers when they migrated the player characters to the next expansion. You can visit the zones in a later expansion, sure, but it's not the same.
A lot of people have begun to miss playing tbc and wotlk now that you can no longer play them, and want the option to play them again. That would be accomplished through setting up era servers for those two expansions, which would take almost no effort from Blizzard, because they have the code for those versions of the game already and the hardware infrastructure to do so in basically one or two days if they just wanted to go and do it.
Currently the only way to play those two would be to play on a private server, which are not official Blizzard servers, which means that when people play on private servers, they are not required to pay Blizzard for a subscription to play. In other words, because Blizzard is not offering era servers for tbc and wotlk, they are not making money from the players who want to play only those two expansions.
If we had TBC i wouldnt be be bored today.
biggest true
blizz is pissed people want to play 18-20 year old WoW expacs than new ones
@@user-mr3vz6sm5j Because the new ones suck
@@LVHAXOR316 You must be crazy if you think the classic xpacs were better than retail. Every class felt slow as hell not to mention the leveling experience sucked too.
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TBC really was the best expansion. Wrath classic proved that.
Pls Bring TBC once again back, best expansion from healer POV/Gameplay
All my TBC Andy’s rise up!
TBC TBC TBC !
Getting tbc again is a dream come true
I don't understand...is it coming back again? ...for the 3rd time?
@@PlainCheesePizza hope so
@@Desolation5what indicates that it does? I didn’t hear any mention on the video
I love TBC - it's basically Vanilla, but more of it.
Really would love to see TBC Classic again. Classic WoW Experience very rushed indeed.
it wasnt rushed, it was out for the same amount of time it was the first time it came out
@@KnudSteveson The original run from Vanilla to Cata lasted roughly 2.200 days. The re-release lastet about 1.700 days
@@KnudSteveson That is just not true.
@@nerdslapper9361 you’re right, it was out 6 months less than the original run
That’s still not that rushed, you wanna talk about rush? Cata Classic is being rushed to get to MoP as fast as possible
Honestly I'd like to see them do a TBC Classic server again. I didn't really experience it much when it came out partly due to burnout after regular classic but it would be cool. Also I know they probably won't but an option to turn off the XP boost they'll definetly add for weird players like me because when I decided to give Cata Classic a quick try, the lack of ability to turn off the XP boost killed it for me especially because I wanted to see the zones stories and because well grinding is chill.
You didten miss mich. Its like classic, but with waaay more attunements for every raid after first tier and in PvP you are dead if you didten use weeks grinding resilience gear.
What xp boost?
People laughed when I came back specifically for Classin TBC and left during the WotLK pre-patch.
TBC is the ONLY WOW I give a shit about.
We want TBC Classic back !!!
Every version of the game has its issues. But TBC is the most under appreciated - the game was still getting MORE popular during it. Everyone talks about how Wrath as the peak- neglecting that means it also began to go down
tbf to Wrath, the subscriber numbers didn't start going down until about 1-2 months into Cata's launch.
Player count never decreased during Wrath. Wrath grew or held it's player count the entire expansion, including during the (at the time) longest content drought between ICC and Ruby Sanctum.
Subs never fell in WoW's history until Cata.
didnt go down during wrath at all, it wasnt until after Cata launched that its peak of 11 million players started to wane.
After tbc classic ended i realized why private servers are existing and popular. It's the end of the sunwell, i start to look at other classes and thinking to myself "id love to play draenei shaman, maybe ele, going into karazhan on phase 1, just having fun" but you can't turn back time. Felt really disappointed. I would love playing tbc again, my experience is vanilla, tbc, wrath and cata, and tbc is not like anything else, just mindblowing how big of a step it is from vanilla, and i love it
It's still absolutely crazy they didn't even keep one set of TBC up.
I think in the future, TBC, WotLK, Cataclysm, and any other future classic expansions, when they go into hibernation, should retain one type of server (PvE, PvP, RP, and RP-PvP) up for each region (timezone for North America, language for Europe).
That might sound like a lot, but they run tons of basically dead servers for both Vanilla Classic and Retail, so merging some of those and opening up these for the sake of posterity just feels like an easy community win with literally 0 downsides.
Been wanting a TBC era server since wotlk came, its by far my favorite expansion. Would main this game again in a heartbeat.
I would play TBC Era forever, by far the best version of wow
Big fan of tbc. Would love a tbc era server.
This is very simple: When do you realize that TBC is much better than WOTLK? The exact moment you spend 5 days in a row doing the same Argent tournament quests that you have to do for 100 days to get all the mounts and rewards for each faction.
The moment Ulduar ends WOTLK dies... it just dies, there is a brief air at the end inside the Icecrown Citadel but it is not even close to the experience that is lived in the burning crusade.
In burning crusade, the maps and missions are similar to those of classic, there are stories in each map... there are many things to discover and lore of draenor, there are legendary raids... the dungeons had attunements to be able to access, which forced you to immerse yourself even for once in the lore of the expansion... we never experienced anything like TBC again.
Personally I started playing WoW in Cataclysm, I always thought that WoTLK was a better expansion than TBC until Classic allowed us to try it, how wrong I was... TBC is not only better than WoTLK but it is possibly the best expansion ever created, the closest to Classic.
So you judge an entire expansion based off of optional side content that isnt even relevant and is only cosmetic? Thats like saying Wrath is better than TBC because TBC is just doing a repeatable quest every day for a year to get 1 flying dragon. To each their own though
"When do you realize that TBC is much better than WOTLK?" - For me it was in the first WotlK heroic dungeon. We go in, I try to make a plan about how to CC the mobs. The rest of the group goes YOLO , and we steamrolled the whole thing.
For me, TBC heroics and Kara were peak WoW.
Also, one boss raids were an awesome idea.
@@matiasdellea444 played from late vanilla til the end of MoP originally, all of them were fun in their own ways, wotlk had, imo, the best launch event, tbc had great gameplay, questing, dungeons/raids were fun, world pvp was even fun. It's playerbase mentality(avg age I spose?) that has changed more than anything and it hasn't been for the better, everything must be instant gratification or it's bad design now apparently.
Cata was meh, mop was fun, tried past mop and it's an entirely different game after that. Ability and talent simplification and pruning killed a lot of the fun to me.
TBC shines in many ways, but the class design was quite rough compared to what we currently have in Cata. Warlocks spammed a single button and did close to double the damage of many specs, and group wide buffs are significantly inferior to raid wide when creating an equal playing field for raiders. In many ways TBC was superior to Wrath and Cata, but in endgame pve content there are many ways Wrath and especially Cata are superior.
You are so right! Ive been playing till Ulduar in original and stopped because I met my love mate. I came after classic released and yep TBC is the magic❤
I love Hellfire Peninsula. I know most hate it, but I leveled two alts in original TBC and getting from the old world to Outland just felt so good. Hubs with tons of quests that all took place nearby. Quest rewards that were amazingly awesome when you were coming from Un’goro/Hinterland greens. Plenty of flight points to make traversing the zone a breeze. And, of course, that feeling of abject terror when you heard the mechanical roar of a Fel Reaver behind you.
HFP feels like home every time I set foot in it.
I still think dual spec should have been introduced. It just opens more oppoetunities for players to play more specs without the small technical bullcrap.
Yeah, and I refuse to budge on that.
Why not play a private server, there are faithful TBC servers with dualspec.
NO CHANGES. DUAL SPEC RUINED WOW.
TBC had hands down the absolute best content ever ... Loved the outland zones, the dungeons, the raids, blood elves
I really love TBC and would start a new char on it in a heartbeat, classic TBC was the first time I experienced it but it was by far the most amazing thing I've done in gaming since 2022
TBC is the only version of WoW I would play atm. Give us TBC back!
A TBC classic server is where I’d live. TBC despite its flaws has always been my favorite expansion and mmo experience.
It was the last expansion that still required you to socialize
I'll say it again. Can we please get a couple of unchanged classic realms that start with Vanilla and progress to TBC and finish with Wrath. After Wrath the realms reset, toons get deleted and the whole thing starts over again and again and so on. Maybe a year and a half-ish per expansion. This is a no-brainer to me.
No one in an MMO wants their characters deleted if anything they need to just do the everquest model and just do 1-2 new servers a year with a set progression rate, and different rulesets for the servers and they just go on forever until they catch up to retail. every year new servers drop so people who want to go back can people who want to continue on can.
Don't delete the toons but have 1 Era server for each of the three.
@@Duallight-kw1nx Eh, I personally would love a progression mode through the first 3 expansions that was deleted at the end. As long as the time frames were known in advance, of course.
@@Duallight-kw1nxpeople are fine with it. starting over with a diff char is exciting by that point. and youve beaten the game
Jesus. All the things you didn't seem to enjoy in TBC are the things I actually loved.
I NEED TBC, MY BODY YEARNS FOR IT
ooooohhhhh tbcccc
I'd renew my sub and roll my dream of a "Holy Mage" I loved my time in TBC when I was leveling my priest alt more than any other during that time, it was like running 4 dps and 1 tank speed clearing dungeons with random pugs.
Yes TBC but no card swiping and no bots
The reason I quit during TBC classic it's because of the dark portal pass. The fact they added a level 58 boost Then acted oblivious to why classic completely failed. They have no consumer awareness
Let’s be honest though the bots, would have self boosted if not for the purchasable boost. The bots were the real issue, farming all the open world maps (Terrocone was so hard to obtain yourself), etc.
Can you be more specific about why you quit during TBC?
I didn’t even play tbc but wdym classic failed? It’s wildly successful even now
babies, the lot of you
honestly you can tell who boosted 58 , i was slaughtering them in hellfire lol
Honestly, for all TBC's faults... I did have a lot of fun replaying it during Classic. Its this nice middle ground between Vanilla and Wrath (obviously) with complex classes being rewarding, more specs being viable while having that 'weird' factor that really added to the fantasy of the setting.
The main two downsides as I see them - attunements taking too long (and not transferring to alts) and 10 man raiding being extremely limited. Minor changes to address these two things and I'd be happy to replay it again.
I want vanilla-tbc-wrath on a cycle
Yeah also great! 9-12 months per expansion.
Thats the shittiest thing ever. Just have a dedicated server for TBC and Wrath and let the community be permanent. Imagine having to redo everything again and again just because some spergs try to treat this like some single player game. This is an MMO, and MMOs thrive on persistent content.
@@atelierbagur3831they can make a permanent server and a classic server in which after 12 months the players from the classic server merge into the permanent.
Warmane did this and if they just had about 100% more players it would’ve been phenomenal. It is the best of both worlds as you can maintain your profess and pursue end game on permanent
@@atelierbagur3831exactly, I just want a WOTLK era server.
@@atelierbagur3831 You say this but you'll soon realize the folly of this. Classic era currently is a prime example. A dead, bloated, severely gold inflated mess of a server with the only raids available being GDKPs. Resetting seasonally refreshes the game in every way and keeps you from getting bored and the servers decaying.
Classic+ is what i want. One world. Fill out those empty bits in Azeroth
nah SoD sucks. They don't have it in them
@@bowserplaylist899 he said classic+ not SoD
@@bowserplaylist899 SoD doesnt suck. Its just they could of done alot more. Activision doesnt care to make anything good. They care about doing the least amount of work for more money.
@@shinski8114 second phase was the best, since third it totally sucks.
@@bowserplaylist899sod isnt classic plus
It will be really cool if they actually make it to be able to choose between all of them.
this! I would play all 3 of them! just like on the private servers!
As a person who didn't do raids, getting good gear from honor was one of the best things about this expansion, the zones, the 5man dungeons, the look and music of the login screen, the 2 races and the way you see their presence throughout outlands. Also if they release a fresh classic tbc server I hope they release it in phases on a 4 year rollout from vanilla world to outlands. Lets also not forget TBC Classic was only out for a year despite having so much content 😔. Maybe they could even add a little content like sod to spice it up a bit.
TBC remains by FAR the Best expansion of WoW
by FAR!
WoTLK
@@user-mr3vz6sm5j wrath is great too but they ruined it with those weird alpha/beta/gamma dungeons
I've been searching for a good private tbc server but got no luck, so yeah, I would play tbc over other versions of the game (I love vanilla too, but kind of feels like it's a good time for it)
vanill and tbc are great! would love to have era servers for both!
Part of me miss TBC. I wouldn't mind another try, as I never truly went all-out in it.
Man if they made a TBC with dual spec it’d be pretty sweet. It just ruined it later on when there were no tanks or healers to be found
TBC was still an rpg, with great atmosphere. Would love to play TBC Sod, with some tweaks and changes every new raid tier/arena season, it refreshes the game a lot than having a stagnant meta all the way through.
I love TBC
One button rotations are great. I don't need difficult rotations for the sake of being difficult. I love warlocks for this reason. It's all about minmaxing your character, and with he right stats, you make your shadow bolt a massive fucking menace. I love it
What people don't want to admit, is TBC is classic plus. Wrath began what current retail is. But TBC is PERFECT.
I was there at the portal on release day. It was so cool. We all bricked the server. Such a beautiful moment.
Making shaman buffs raid wide made it really hard to find raid groups outside of a guild. Especially when mages got a copy haste buff.
I agree. The ”bring the player not the class” was a huge L for wow that came with WOTLK. Along with the idea that a pure dps and a hybrid should be ”equal” so now we only have hybrids based on existing specs and not utility differences.
My favorite expansion so far, played the original one, and the classic re-release.
Yes, TBC is probably my favourite version of the Classic trilogy.
TBC ERA H YPEEE!!
The good thing about TBC raiding is that there were multiple raids per tier, so you had variety.
TBC is basicly "Classic+". But for some reason the community gives out the hope to the devs who made SoD, who asked if we want flying mounts in Classic in that survey as one ex.
Proves how out of touch they are. I'm turning 45 this Aug and been playing mmo's since 2001 (Daoc) and many other mmo's. WoW since closed/open betas 2005 with breaks ofc.
I could type a LONG essay how much I love Vanilla/Classic...until we get to the point of 40 man raids...often you are forced to merge with another guild and drama-fest is unavoidable.
So for me, TBC's 10-25 man raids and harder heroics over 40 man raids anyday. Maybe a TBC+ would be something but WITHOUT any level boost, token and simular bs 😅
TBC is my fav expansion of all time, if there was a re-release I'd be grinding my warlock, I can't get bored of it
I would play the hell out of TBC, running karazhan all day long, once P1 is done I'd probably quit again.
true after p1 the game becomes a little harder, so it comes naturally that people like you would quit :)
It's obvious that it has to come back, and in fact Blizzard shouldn't have left out the TBC and WotL expansions, it wouldn't even be a profitability issue for them to have been removed from the list.
Blizzard should give the community the pleasure of playing WoW in any expansion they want, not just the retail version.
IMO biggest problem with tbc was that EVERYONE had insane gear and gold amounts so “difficulty” wasn’t really a thing in early tiers when everyone in your raid has BIS
your raid was always meant to have BiS, i am sorry your raid groups were undergeared before but i assure you, you were always meant to play those raids optimally while geared in your Best in Slot.
Gold does not make the game in any way easier. What planet do you live on? Yes it's 2024, everyone has gold whether from buying it or using well established farming methods. That's an inevitable part of classic wow. Gold in TBC is used on nothing other than a couple of non-bis crafted pieces and consumables. They do not magically gain you a 99 parse. Every single person who has ever written the comment you just did (obsessing over caring about gold), either has not even played tbc classic or has a terrible parse if they did. You cannot talk from a position of authority if you have either no experience or no skill.
@@KnudSteveson Exactly. The fact he somehow doesn't know this shows me he didn't actually play. Gold does not magically make your chraracter strong in tbc. It gets you at best a couple of replaceable profession pieces and provides for your consumes. That's it.
I agree, because people had items and gold saved from classic. we need a fresh start tbc.
@@cococock2418 people were using gold to buy raid items through gdkp though
TBC was the definitive version of WoW. Especially because druid tanking was both relevant and appreciated. Improvements from items to systems across the board. Not sure we will ever see it again, but some great memories.
Druid tank where stong even in late expansion and rarely fall due to their high hp pool, strong self healing and general resistances.
Most of the inconveniences in tbc are part of the vanilla charm. See it as a movie sequel or a movie adaptation of a book done right. Yes there was maybe a couple things badly designed to cause minmaxing like the bloodlust swapping for example. But each class really has their class flavour fleshed out and not doing the same things as eachother it's almost perfect!
Vanilla world with TBC class & talent changes if they could somehow make it work for level 60. My Classic WoW wet dream.
PLEASE TBC ERA !!!! WHERE IS IT ? IM SICK OF NAXX xD
I've said it before, and I'll keep saying it; I'm fully advocating for a Vanilla->TBC->Wrath progression server that cycles through those expansions, and then wipes back to Vanilla to repeat the cycle anew. Timing through expansion is really the only question.
What I think made TBC great was that it was simply an expansion of Vanilla, nothing more, nothing less. A few small changes here and there. Some classes/specializations were reworked, which made them better useful in raids, provided increased benefits to other players, and overall made playing some classes a little better. The raids were mostly good with memorable boss encounters and environments, and the introduction of heroic dungeons for those who needed filler pieces to complete their endgame armor or to catch up with everyone else who's getting gear faster due to RNG. Some of my best WoW memories were made in TBC. I didn't get as far as I wanted, but I had fun trying to get there.
When classic came out then TBC classic, I figured it would be around forever and waited to jump in until I had time… then it was gone and I’ve been waiting for it since.
My favorite expansion, will be in the TBC classic waiting room
I really liked TBC. But I'm noticing a pattern with the classic audience. I remember many players didn't appreciate TBC classic while it was here, and many were just waiting for wotlk, and once they got wotlk, they wanted to go back to classic era. I also remember the classic 2019 rerelease and people were wanting TBC, many didn't appreciate classic or TBC while they were here. I enjoyed TBC classic a lot when it was here. But like, I'm just saying... a lot of us have become seasonal gamers without noticing it. Instead of enjoying what we have.
@@johnhavardvalebrokk6151 still here just enjoying Classic Hardcore.
@@thegreattaiyou Good, you do you. I'm enjoying cata. There are exceptions. It's just a pattern I've noticed with a lot of players that I've played with over the years since 2019.
@@johnhavardvalebrokk6151 for sure. People always gravitate to what's new, and get caught up in what could be rather than what is.
yep private servers have been going through this cycle for 15 years, people get tired of an expansion, desire FRESH, then rinse& repeat
Willie doing the bellular click bait title tactics now. Nothing is said about this expansion being brought back. It's all speculation.
hmm maybe the fanbase demanding it would help convince them to bring it back.
Hopefully they took sneaky snapshots of our TBC characters before the Wrath Classic pre-patch "just in case", but I doubt it lol.
Give us a permanent TBC server cluster.....Its common sense.
I'm surprised they haven't done TBC and WOTLK era servers
It turned out I really loved TBC way more than Wrath and Vanilla. BiS Classic expansion, I really want to go back to Outland an a fresh or Era TBC server.
Nostalgia is a helluva drug
so is progressivism.
@@radfan7020You mean the natural way of life?
I'd easily take a vacation or even quit my job to go hard at tbc launch YEP missing it. tbc with tuned content and no bots would be a dream
For a very long time, I always considered TBC to be my favorite time in WoW, but throughout the Classic relaunches, I actually found myself enjoying Wrath even more than TBC. I'm still kinda sad they moved on to Cata. My sub has been inactive since about a month before that. :(
This may be partially because I mained a Rogue throughout Classic and Rogues were obviously pretty amazing in Wrath.
@@anolaf Cata's basically Wrath 2.0. Wrath is way closer to Cataclysm than it is to TBC. If you liked Wrath, you'll like Cataclysm.
@@keelhld94 Maybe. I played Cata back in the day and don't really remember being overly stoked about it. Then again, by that point, I had played nonstop since mid-late Vanilla, so I may have just been burnt out by then. Plus a lot of my friends and guildies quit at the end of OG Wrath. I'm sure it's good, but I feel like it's probably a little late to get into Cata Classic. I'm still in my Wrath Classic guild's Discord and I've definitely been pretty well replaced lol.
DId you even play Cata
@@KnudSteveson I did. Please refer to my previous comment above.
People will claim to miss this over and over, but then just raid log and complain about it being a dead game or server.
Classic TBC yes, SOD TBC no
Why TBC...Tier 4, 5, and 6...some of the most classic looks in WOW and raids that were fun, but not divided into heroic or RF. Classes were just fun. I want a Classic + that includes the first 3 expansions.
TBC was the best time I had in WoW classic. Loved running Karazhan with guildies, we had so much fun. And I actually quite enjoyed the shorter raids like Gruul's lair and Magtheridon. I was really pumping on my Destro lock and got to do fun stuff like tanking on Leotheras and Illidan. Plus Heroics were actually hard without needing to introduce stupid Alpha and Beta mechanics!
Grinding attunements out was also really fun and incentivised running Heroics a lot in guild groups, though I agree it became less fun when it came to alts.
Bottom line, if a TBC era server came out, I would be there in a heartbeat!
same
As someone who played on Classic Era-Whitemane for the better part of 2 years (and now enjoying SoD), I would immediately jump into a TBC Fresh/Era realm!
I want TBC with some changes.
TBC is great, but by far the biggest negative is the requirement of 5 shamans in every single raid if you even remotely want to perform at your best with an ideal raid. Almost completely necessitates a guild or GDKP, finding 5 competent shamans in a pug was a nightmare. Not that big a deal for me as I chose to go the guild route but pugs on my alts were rough. Was also amazing to have an expansion where warriors actually had to wait multiple phases to take off rather than stacking 20 of them like we did in Molten Snore on. I would love for lust to be raid wide if we ever go back but no changes clowns would whine. Mount Hyjal was also atrocious. His comment about "trash being harder than raids" is also true and made those parts of the game, like TK sheep spam, utterly cringe. The grinds for items like belt of 1k deaths and DST were also extremely rough, so it wasn't a perfect expansion by any means.
5 shamans but its 3 different specs at least. I dont see it as a real problem. They could nerf bl/hero so its not a big deal if you dont have 5.
The cyclical nature of this channel is incredible. Talk about stuck in the past
we need tbc!!!!!!🤪
yeah wow players are funny, get sick of one expac then think they want another, then they get tired of that in 3 weeks
the fantasy of progress is incredible when the modern game is explicitly worse.
Clearly by far the most fun I've ever had in WoW and gaming in general. Sure, waiting for trash waves in Hyjal was ass and yes, 4 out of 5 bosses were forgettable and uninspired but the memories of managing aggro as a roided up warlock during the trash waves will stick with me forever. And M'uru (with a PC from 2003, a 480p CRT display and 250ms baseline and "read something in the Elitisjerks forum" levels of game knowledge) is still the by far most challenging encounter this game has ever seen.
Btw, 100% of the people I know who kept telling me that Sunwell wasn't a challenge and gamers were better in 2022 than in 2007 DID NOT KILL KJ IN 2022. With 1440p screens, 15ms, client and clore based on Legion/BfA and 15 years of minmaxing culture :)
Couple of notes:
"Trash being hard and bosses being easy is undesirable"
- I actually disagree with this. At face value, I think a lot of people would say "yeah trash sucks, I wanna fight bosses". But what ends up happening, is that the raids lose some intrigue when the trash is just incredibly easy. Why have trash at all? The difficult trash in TBC added weight to the raids and meant that you needed to actually be organized/present to clear raids. Compare this with WoTLK, where trash was simply stack and cleave for the entire xpac...that was boring as hell. TBC actually made you think and use utility...better imo.
- I think there is a large portion of people that very much prefer raids like Black Temple to raids like Ulduar. This is probably because our groups faced a challenge each week in BT that felt surmountable, but challenging. Ulduar, which we also cleared, just felt like RNG could screw you every other mechanic. I get that some people like difficulty, but Ulduar and beyond really soured that game for me and many others. (We cleared through ICC Hard Modes...I just don't care to do it again).
Group Wide Buffs
- Get rid of group wide buffs, it'll be too hard to find people for raids if they keep this type of restriction going forward.
Skipping Phases
- It's fun to skip phases with high dps. Forcing an Illidan p4 is the incorrect approach, just raise his hp a little bit. Hitting that threshold as a raid is a huge achievement and one that we celebrated in TBC.
There's nothing to do outside of raid
- I feel like this is true of all Vanilla/TBC/WOTLK...only difference is that we actually played TBC arena (casually) a bunch. WOTLK pvp wasn't fun and vanilla only has like AV.
I rather have new content for vanilla than more tbc...
That's essentially TBC, vanilla with more content
@@IdeaChovet64 It is not... TBC is worse in design compared to vanilla imo... They took away sooo many elite quests, outland sucks and the worst of all... They made all classes get real rotations that blizzard had come up with instead of just giving us alot of abilities/tools that we had to come up with the best way to use. Vanilla feels like playing DnD, Tbc less so
Tbph, I really find how Blizzard approaches releasing Classic content to be kind of frustrating. I honestly feel like the only reason they take away the different era's of the server is so they can farm hype in the future by rereleasing them and getting the big wave of excitement when they need it, and honestly I just think its really not respectful towards the players who do want those servers.
I really don't see any Player first reasoning on Blizzards end not to just release a small handful of servers for Vanilla, TBC and Wrath, let 1-2 run as forever servers so people who just have the urge to play the old version of the game, they can just go do it, and then have a few others which cycle seasonally for people who want to ride a fresh start server and do content releases and reclears.
I genuinely feel if they did that, the community would take the initiative to do events on those servers when there was a spark for it, and the servers would see a fairly healthy flow of players.
I really dont see it any different then like, I wanted to play Warcraft 3 today, so I just played warcraft 3 for a few hours. I really think its kind of silly that we exist in a state where if I wanted to go play Warcraft 3 in this comparison, I'd need to just yell on the forums until Blizzard deems it the correct time to give me the privilege of going back to play it again.
i just want a classic fresh
With 40 man raids...yay.
WTB TBC or a TBC+ much better.
10-25 man raids, harder heroic dungeons.
Don't get me wrong, I do like Classic too but when it gets to the 40 man raids, most often you are forced to merge with another guild and the drama really starts.
I can only speak for myself but TBC was the only expansion of WoW that felt closer to classic while at the same time being something new and adding something new. It kept our classes along with the spells and progression in them while adding to it which opened up a lot of possibilities. It kept the speed and rate in which you leveled as well as did Dungeons and raids while again adding something new. I think when most people are asking for WoW Plus they don't realize a lot of them (a lot not all) are really asking for something similar to TBC or basically "Give us new stuff but keep it in not just the style but the system of classic. That said I don't bring up WoTLK because that was something different in that it was the one that add a great deal of new and change while holding on to bits of classic in a way that people thought would be the new way going forward. Again all of this is just my opinion and you are beyond free to agree or disagree.
Josh Strife Hays was absolutely right in his recent Gamersupps video. Sponsored ads like the one in this video serve only to break up the flow, most people skip them and they don't work long term. With RUclips currently engaged in a losing battle against ad blockers, it is truly the advertisers with a sense of practicality that will be ultimately successful.
Just get sponsorblock extension as well and you'll never see another one
Me with revanced: wut sponsorship?
@@dripstein5068 Thank you very much for this recommendation. Just installed and working great!
I really liked Mt Hyjal. I like raids/dungeons that are really linear with lots of AoE
You'd love the dungeons in FFXIV
TBC with raid wide buffs pls...