Awesome video thanks for sharing, bro🤙🏽 i’m doing a build on a MX650 and have a few questions. 1. What battery should I go with? I want to be at the 60-70 mph and good range. 2. What gearing this kit comes with an 11T But do I need to change the front sprocket to achieve the 70mph and what ratio, should I go for the rear? Thank you bud 🤙🏽
Thank god for this company! Finally a company I can communicate in English and get straight forward answers! Definitely building with Electric &Co in the future! Just finished a build w am Ebikeling kit and I had to figure a lot of shit out on my own. I’m a concrete pump operator not an electrical engineer 😂
@@VoltronWatts just watched Black66 minibike run w a Qs120 and HOLY SHIT BRO! I think I’m building a new live axles drift trike with that kit next! I have some pretty sick new paved trails in my area I terrorize at night hahaha it’s so fun. Tons of smooth asphalt and S turns and switchbacks!!
I literally had a razor mx500 build with electro and co. Absolutely amazing product but our house burnt down due to solar and we lost both builds.within the next 2 years when can afford my son and I will be doing 2 builds again so we can ride the beach. Ryder is autistic and absolutely loves electro and co.! ❤ we can't Waite to post our builds and see others across the country until then. amazing builds from electro and co ladies and gentlemen. Ride safe
Im currently on vevor 48v 2000w kit on my first build. Just ordered the e&c 11kw kit on this fine Sunday evening! 🚀cant wait to smoke grannies on the highway 🤙🏽
Man that controller sounds really cool!! More than double the peak power output that my Chinesium one can do and it’s half the size. My controller has no option for tuning either and I know how important that is for a good ride. I totally get the decision to fill that baby with thermally conductive potting compound, even though that makes repairs difficult or near impossible. I’ve worked with a couple fancy controllers from high-end battery lawn mowers and power tools and such, the best ones were always filled with that thermal potting compound. I live in a place that rains all the time year round so I can appreciate the benefit of fully waterproof parts like that. Looks like they’ve done some really great work on this one, I hope to get one for my bike someday!
@@VoltronWatts Easy 🤙 Cool to see what innovative folks are coming up with to further the sport and keep the community grinnin wide! Feel free to tell the E&C team id be more than happy to put a motor and controller to the paces up on the rainy volcano 🌋if they want to send em my way 😁
It good to hear that they will send you the v2 end caps for the v1 motors. I'm running 12" rims and tires on my RSF650. The stronger end cap will be a good piece of mind on my bike.
I missed the battery being opened video. I did see videos on the motor being taken apart . So far I'm no having any issues with the motor. I am looking for a better controller to feed it.
@VoltronWatts I build my own batteries. When I started building my Razors, I figured that I should do as much of the build that I could. So I learned how to build batteries and thought myself how to weld. I use batteries that are second hand . From Jag35, Battery Clearing House and Battery Hookup. That way I can keep the cost down .
Never built a razor, I’ve always disliked electric in general, but these electro and co motors are sweet. I legitimately don’t think I’ve seen another company putting out 14 kw electric motors.
Grown ups: dang I can’t believe I got this dirt bike going 50mph with this cheap kit Kids: hell yeah I just spent my life savings for this dirt bike to go 50 mph, I can’t wait to ride with my buddies
For the motor, it’s my understanding that the stock rear sprocket will not work with the one that comes on the ec4p? Can I swap my stock motor front sprocket onto the motor or do I HAVE to order the rear sprocket and chain kit as well?
When are the controllers coming out? Does the Zapper have 80mm fan or 120mm? Interested in the Zapper for my CRF450r build Thinking: 30s9p molicel sia155-64 hairpin motor Almost build the CRF, just working on wheels and some replacement bearings now.
Well, I wouldn’t use the stock batteries with the E&C kit. But you don’t have to use an E&C battery with the noisy cricket and EC4P. You can get your own battery and run it 👌🚀
@jujusplayground2878 battery life is very dependent on the rider… their weight, throttle manner, terrain, and so on…. With mine I got about 20 miles of street use while just running at a normal 30mph pace or so. 👍
You could, for sure! You would need a separate mount in order to make it work. There is have seen guys in the modified razors Facebook group make mounts
Takes a couple hours to change on a 5 amp charger. At 5amps per hour you can gain 20amp hours in 4 hours. There are also chargers that can charge faster 🤙
You can charge the bike overnight. Personally I don’t like to keep my batteries on the charger once they are full. One thing I like to do is use the BMS app on my phone and look at the batteries cell health and percentage per cell. If I notice a couple cells are uneven with the rest I’ll leave it for a bit as to let those cells catch up to the rest.
I don’t have a promo code to offer at this time. I am still trying to work that out with E&C. Hopefully we can throw the Voltron Watts community a bone soon! 🦴
I went 20 miles on the street with moderate throttle use and dirt bike tires. It really depends on your weight, throttle manner, include and terrain tho.
@@VoltronWatts thx i’ll be sure to check them out. if i could get 40mph i think i would be fine with that speed doesn’t haft to do 60mph 😆 i’d like to keep it under 2k💰if possible. subscribed✔️
I don't see why u guys Or Electric& co build and sell these things yourselves and fully built n just build different ones with different set ups in them..
I'm baffled that people sink serious cash into such a heavy unsophisticated platform designed to fit 12 year olds... That being said, I support the design concept of the EC4P as the only sub 12lb mid motor available capable of decent performance that can be easily VESC controlled. Has anything been done to tighten up the loose motor windings, panned elsewhere, and how many if any rotors have failed to date? Still considering buying one for custom street builds.
These are great for big kids and adults if you need QUIET transport to get around and they are huge fun. I have a liter bike, husky 510 enduro, and drz 400, and still love riding Razor with my kids.
What's the best way to contact Electro and co? I sent several emails and messaged them on facebook, but no response. I'm nervous placing my first oder with them now, especially if i need to ask a question of have a problem. Thanks
@@VoltronWatts Is there a way i can purchase a DKD display seperately? I want to purchase the Extreme 11,000W Razor Kit and the display is not offered with it.
EC doesn’t offer one but I’m sure you could wire one in. OR, use an old iPhone or android and mount it to the bars and have that be your display. Have you see the app? It’s really well done
One more question, what would be the best sprocket size for top speed? I have 13/5.00x6 inch tires. I'm thinking 14 tooth front, but i don't know how many teeth for the rear. It's a custom mini bike.Thanks!@@VoltronWatts
@adam631 to be honest… I’m not the best guy to ask about gearing when coupled with tire size. I don’t know the limits of the components and would hate to give you some info that ruins your kit. Sorry man, just being honest 🤜🤛
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Awesome video thanks for sharing, bro🤙🏽 i’m doing a build on a MX650 and have a few questions.
1. What battery should I go with? I want to be at the 60-70 mph and good range.
2. What gearing this kit comes with an 11T But do I need to change the front sprocket to achieve the 70mph and what ratio, should I go for the rear?
Thank you bud 🤙🏽
Thank god for this company! Finally a company I can communicate in English and get straight forward answers! Definitely building with Electric &Co in the future! Just finished a build w am Ebikeling kit and I had to figure a lot of shit out on my own. I’m a concrete pump operator not an electrical engineer 😂
Hell yea man, I hear ya! Thank you for watching and subscribing! Don’t forget about the “Voltron5” discount code! 🫡
@@VoltronWatts just watched Black66 minibike run w a Qs120 and HOLY SHIT BRO! I think I’m building a new live axles drift trike with that kit next! I have some pretty sick new paved trails in my area I terrorize at night hahaha it’s so fun. Tons of smooth asphalt and S turns and switchbacks!!
Send it man! 🚀🚀
I literally had a razor mx500 build with electro and co. Absolutely amazing product but our house burnt down due to solar and we lost both builds.within the next 2 years when can afford my son and I will be doing 2 builds again so we can ride the beach. Ryder is autistic and absolutely loves electro and co.! ❤ we can't Waite to post our builds and see others across the country until then. amazing builds from electro and co ladies and gentlemen. Ride safe
That’s an awesome/ sad story! Thank you for sharing🤙 I can’t wait to see what you do with the next couple bikes you get 👊
How much is the eletro and co kit? Did you add the battery on the website??
@tatertot2068 yup. I got the 20AH battery from their site 💪🏼
@@VoltronWatts so did it run you like 1.2k?
I the extreme kit I have was like $1800
Im currently on vevor 48v 2000w kit on my first build. Just ordered the e&c 11kw kit on this fine Sunday evening! 🚀cant wait to smoke grannies on the highway 🤙🏽
Get some!!
@@VoltronWatts thanks for this vid & also the first ride vid! Great info on the kit!
@oem_spec glad it helped!
I have a Vevor kit on the shelf that never got off the shelf haha
i can only dream of having this
You can do it!
Great video and solid explanation.
Thank you for watching!👊 be sure to subscribe if you haven’t already 🤙🍻
Man that controller sounds really cool!! More than double the peak power output that my Chinesium one can do and it’s half the size. My controller has no option for tuning either and I know how important that is for a good ride.
I totally get the decision to fill that baby with thermally conductive potting compound, even though that makes repairs difficult or near impossible. I’ve worked with a couple fancy controllers from high-end battery lawn mowers and power tools and such, the best ones were always filled with that thermal potting compound. I live in a place that rains all the time year round so I can appreciate the benefit of fully waterproof parts like that.
Looks like they’ve done some really great work on this one, I hope to get one for my bike someday!
E&C really thought about everything with this controller!
Thank you for taking the time to leave such a great piece of feedback. 🫶🏻
@@VoltronWatts Easy 🤙
Cool to see what innovative folks are coming up with to further the sport and keep the community grinnin wide!
Feel free to tell the E&C team id be more than happy to put a motor and controller to the paces up on the rainy volcano 🌋if they want to send em my way 😁
Great content, you guy's work well with each other.
Thanks Matt! And thank you for watching 🍻🤙
Just got a black edition 650. All stock so far but I'm having a blast. Btw. I'm a 45 year old man 5'4" 145lbs.
Great bike!!
It good to hear that they will send you the v2 end caps for the v1 motors. I'm running 12" rims and tires on my RSF650. The stronger end cap will be a good piece of mind on my bike.
Absolutely! 🤘
I missed the battery being opened video. I did see videos on the motor being taken apart . So far I'm no having any issues with the motor. I am looking for a better controller to feed it.
I havnt seen a video of of the battery deconstruction. But these batteries are made from a very reputable manufacturer
@VoltronWatts I build my own batteries. When I started building my Razors, I figured that I should do as much of the build that I could. So I learned how to build batteries and thought myself how to weld. I use batteries that are second hand . From Jag35, Battery Clearing House and Battery Hookup. That way I can keep the cost down .
Never built a razor, I’ve always disliked electric in general, but these electro and co motors are sweet. I legitimately don’t think I’ve seen another company putting out 14 kw electric motors.
Electric stuff is incredible now a days man 💪⚡️
Grown ups: dang I can’t believe I got this dirt bike going 50mph with this cheap kit
Kids: hell yeah I just spent my life savings for this dirt bike to go 50 mph, I can’t wait to ride with my buddies
😂😂😂
hey i have a question, if i order the little bit controller when will it arrive? like how long do electro and co controllers usually take to deliver?
It varies. You gotta check the website for lead times 🤜🤛
Bad ass kit!
The baddest bolt on kit available 💪🏼🍆💦
They need to make liveries for the bikes
A what?
For the motor, it’s my understanding that the stock rear sprocket will not work with the one that comes on the ec4p? Can I swap my stock motor front sprocket onto the motor or do I HAVE to order the rear sprocket and chain kit as well?
You can order a 25h motor sprocket for the EC4p and it will work 💪🏼
When are the controllers coming out?
Does the Zapper have 80mm fan or 120mm?
Interested in the Zapper for my CRF450r build
Thinking:
30s9p molicel
sia155-64 hairpin motor
Almost build the CRF, just working on wheels and some replacement bearings now.
I will get answers for you on this 👊
could the 52v 20amp fit in a mototec?? the website says it doesnt but if you shift it a different way would it fit?
I think they have a Mototec specific battery 👌
Do you need to purchase the 72v battery when you purchase the extreme kit or can you just use the kit with the mx650 stock battery ?
Well, I wouldn’t use the stock batteries with the E&C kit. But you don’t have to use an E&C battery with the noisy cricket and EC4P. You can get your own battery and run it 👌🚀
@@VoltronWatts cool man thanks another question around how long does the 72v battery last
@jujusplayground2878 battery life is very dependent on the rider… their weight, throttle manner, terrain, and so on…. With mine I got about 20 miles of street use while just running at a normal 30mph pace or so. 👍
And the charger port will connect to the xt90 battery?
Yes
When am on the website do I get xt90 or no battery lead to make it look stock
You can elect to add XT90 connections 👍
Great video
Thank you! Had a blast making it!🤙
how fast could this kit go with a 60v 20ah battery
That depends on gearing and Amps too. More to it than just volts 🤙
So when i order the battery do i get no battery lead or xt90 cause i wanna make it look stock
Did you watch the video by chance?
@@VoltronWatts ya
@@VoltronWatts so what battery lead is that in the video
Can you please provide a picture layout showing the Extreme kit fits in these raxors stock case?
What do you mean?
The 76v battery took nearly all the space inside the cover. I don’t know where to place the controller to make it fit.
@martind5728 under the top bar on the bottom of it
Oh ok….Ty. I will try it later, because I am currently having issues with the battery they sent me having 0 voltage and won’t charge.
How did you get the battery to fit inside the cover when the original switch is in the way?
will it go faster with a 13t front sprocket?
It will loose top end the bigger you go up in sprocket size on the front
@@VoltronWatts appreciate it boss
@@VoltronWatts also what about the rear sprocket if you have more teeth will it increase top speed or if it has less teeth
So does the kit come with everything or do i need to buy any other things
Comes with everything you need to go fast! Check out the electro and company playlist and voltronwatts.com for more. Info 🍻
I thought when the kit came it comes with a battery please respond I'm kinda confused on how to get the battery
It does come with the battery. 🤙
What Battery Leads do you order on the Kit
I use XT90👌 “Voltron5” at check out will save you a couple bucks 🤜🤛
Do you happen to know if the tru moto is coming to the etm motors ?
That is a great question Anthony and I’m not sure about that. That would be a question for the EC peeps. Thanks for watching man 👊
Hello! im wondering if i can use a electro and co kit for the mx500,mx650 and sx 500. And put it on a razor rambler 12?
You could, for sure! You would need a separate mount in order to make it work. There is have seen guys in the modified razors Facebook group make mounts
@@VoltronWatts ok Thanks for letting me know
@VIGGZEN14 anytime 👍
what rear and front sprocket do i need to go 70mph, a 61t rear and 13t front?
You going to run the E&C kit?
@@VoltronWatts yes which front sprocket and rear sprocket do i need to hit 70
@@VoltronWattsmph
When it gives us an option to choose wich battery, if I pressed none for all, to keep it cheap, what all would I get
I don’t speak for E&C but I’d imagine everything besides the battery, leads and charger. Email em at electroandcompany@gmail.com to be sure 🤙
does the kit come with a chain for the 11t sprocket or you you have to order that seperately?
Hey there! Chain is separate. Can easily be had on Amazon. Also check out voltronwatts.Com for some bolt on parts 👊
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@@VoltronWatts thx man 😁😁👍👍
No problem 👊
Great channel. You got a new sub bro.
I appreciate you Brian! 🍻👊
how long does it change to charge to full? and what voltage is dead?
Takes a couple hours to change on a 5 amp charger. At 5amps per hour you can gain 20amp hours in 4 hours. There are also chargers that can charge faster 🤙
Do they plan to release the Noisy Cricket for sale ????
👍 yup
i also have a quick question is there a way i can charge the bike overnight or is that bad?
You can charge the bike overnight. Personally I don’t like to keep my batteries on the charger once they are full. One thing I like to do is use the BMS app on my phone and look at the batteries cell health and percentage per cell. If I notice a couple cells are uneven with the rest I’ll leave it for a bit as to let those cells catch up to the rest.
@@VoltronWatts what BMS app do you use?
Will this motor fit into my burromax 1600r? Lookin to upgrade this thang gets hot
If the burrowmax takes a MY1020 type motor, which I think it does, then 👍
Very cool bro
Thanks Alan! 👊
Can you ask him
To make a kit for the rambler?
I’ll pass it on 🤙
Any idea when the etm5000 will be back in stock?....I need one in my life! ..I'm having a midlife crisis..lmfao!
Hahahah! I don’t know, I’m sorry. I’m also having a midlife crisis 😂😂
So what do I have to order to go 70 I got confused can I get a link if anything?
The extreme kit with 13 tooth front sprocket and 24ah battery option. 🚀
@@VoltronWattsso the 72 rear an 13 front is what can hit 70.. with that kit
You should have a layaway plan everyone's doing it
Not a bad idea!
It's a name we don't talk about Voltron sounds like Voldemort
😂😂
Do you ship to the UK?
Contact Austin & Electro @ Co. Electroandcompany@gmail.com I’m sure they can get something set up for you. 🤙
Tell ‘em Voltron Watts sent you. 🍻👊
@@VoltronWatts thanks man
@bucks09 Yez ziiir
So that’s a 21s battery? I wonder why they didn’t go up to 22s or 24s
Im not sure. Im sure someone smarter than me has an answer for that. lol!
I hear there junk
Great video fellas!
Thanks Nathan!🍻
Cool build but I can get a yzf250 for the same price.
Not as fun tho!
Is it possible to put Surron ko motor on a mtb mxc6 bike
By MXC6 do you mean MX650?
Thank you , great info 👍,.. do you have any promo/discount codes to use at checkout if we order Extreme kit ?
I’m working on that with the E&C doods right now. I can’t guarantee anything but it’s in the works 👊
I don’t have a promo code to offer at this time. I am still trying to work that out with E&C. Hopefully we can throw the Voltron Watts community a bone soon! 🦴
What is the range?
I went 20 miles on the street with moderate throttle use and dirt bike tires. It really depends on your weight, throttle manner, include and terrain tho.
@@VoltronWatts what if I weigh 80
@SplatMax lots of range 👌
@@VoltronWatts would it get 30
@@VoltronWatts would it get 30
i haft to build one of these one day
i understand the cost because of the performance these kits are nice but just a litte pricey for my pockets 😬🤔🥺
Thanks for watching man 🤘 you can build razors on a budget too. I have vids on it. I love all the kits and options 🍻
@@VoltronWatts thx i’ll be sure to check them out. if i could get 40mph i think i would be fine with that speed doesn’t haft to do 60mph 😆 i’d like to keep it under 2k💰if possible. subscribed✔️
You can build good shit for under 2k🍻
@@VoltronWatts thx I’m loving the channel.
Happy to have you!@@burn1gotbeats
How much miles
I got 26 miles of street riding at about 30mph avg. speed 💪🏼
God damn, I thought 55 miles an hour is fast.😢
Haha! 55 is fast on 10” wheels! 😂
I don't see why u guys Or Electric& co build and sell these things yourselves and fully built n just build different ones with different set ups in them..
I’m not tracking. What do you mean?
Why don’t you just make the fins a little smaller make it easier on us
That’s a possibility.
I'm baffled that people sink serious cash into such a heavy unsophisticated platform designed to fit 12 year olds...
That being said, I support the design concept of the EC4P as the only sub 12lb mid motor available capable of decent performance that can be easily VESC controlled.
Has anything been done to tighten up the loose motor windings, panned elsewhere, and how many if any rotors have failed to date? Still considering buying one for custom street builds.
Hahaha! I hear ya man. But think of the things in general people spend big money on that doesn’t make sense. 🤣
These are great for big kids and adults if you need QUIET transport to get around and they are huge fun. I have a liter bike, husky 510 enduro, and drz 400, and still love riding
Razor with my kids.
After all that not even gonna show it going 70mph. Not even 60 or 50 or 40. Yikes
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What's the best way to contact Electro and co? I sent several emails and messaged them on facebook, but no response. I'm nervous placing my first oder with them now, especially if i need to ask a question of have a problem. Thanks
Hey Adam, thanks for watching! Email is typically the best way to get ahold of them. What kind of questions/ concerns do you have?
@@VoltronWatts Is there a way i can purchase a DKD display seperately? I want to purchase the Extreme 11,000W Razor Kit and the display is not offered with it.
EC doesn’t offer one but I’m sure you could wire one in. OR, use an old iPhone or android and mount it to the bars and have that be your display. Have you see the app? It’s really well done
One more question, what would be the best sprocket size for top speed? I have 13/5.00x6 inch tires. I'm thinking 14 tooth front, but i don't know how many teeth for the rear. It's a custom mini bike.Thanks!@@VoltronWatts
@adam631 to be honest… I’m not the best guy to ask about gearing when coupled with tire size. I don’t know the limits of the components and would hate to give you some info that ruins your kit. Sorry man, just being honest 🤜🤛