Gotta give it up for dude interviewing these guys. It's crystal fucking clear the biggest reason why this doc is so good, is because you've got an interviewer with a genuine invested interest in the subject matter and the people behind it all. Just an honest fan who understands how to ride the line between not going the fanboy route while simultaneously being genuine enough to get these guys to open up in ways that will probably never happen again.
Finally, a BM documentary that isn't focussed on Varg's "self-defense" or a sensational piece on church burnings we all seen 10000 times ! This very refreshing and with respect to the Artists and BM , cheers !
But Varg = everything that is right with Black Metal. He walked the walk. That is all that matters. Everything else is just "entertainment" until they actually live what they speak of.
sikk cops 👏👏👏Vice did a 30 min doc on Gorgoroth. But not about the band and its music, but instead about the controversy surrounding their frontman. Fucking reporters.
sikk cops. yeah, I'm tired of seeing the articles/docs of racism in black metal. like, I do understand that the community has those individuals, but I wish to learn more of the genre
Black metal is inherently sensational it's not just about the music it's the image and stories you think most black metal bands actually worship satan unironically
"I like to, like 'aaaaaah" "Can you do it like, loud? "No, hehee, i, maybe! heh... "It'd be cool if you did... "KiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiL!" "Something like that. Yeah."
I was half asleep already when I clicked on this video. Falling asleep only to be awoken by that kkkkkiillllllllllllll!!!! Anyways these guys remind me of the goths from south park
This totally resonates. What most people will never get is that when you have an intimate relationship with a personal soundscape, it's more real than anything in the outside world. The landscape of the music is a place of rest, whether comforting or distressing. It's mind made real. A creation myth realized.
These people are fucking fascinating. They are depressed, yet they create things that are greater than them (and than us). Gonna listen to some Leviathan now.
Shantrek ylospollas Yes this is absolutely amazing yet not understandable for me. I'm suffering from major depression and countless other mental health issues, which I don't even know all the names for them anymore. I only do things which are absolutely necessary and leave out everything else, which I don't have to do. These people suffer from similar things, yet they have the will and energy to create music, on their OWN. I can't relate to that, but I find it so fascinating and I'm happy for them, that they found something, which they love doing.
koden hrebs I have (not suffer from I hate that) bipolar type 2 with psychotic features (mirroring schizotypal on my upswings) and heavy anxiety and I make (as different aliases) everything from Deathcore to Post Rock to Dubstep to Folk Punk and have amassed my own studio. Break through the dim grey.
koden hrebs as a musician, record producer, extremely depressed yet accomplished individual who has fought major depression his entire life, I can explain it. Focusing on the creative process is cathartic when you're depressed; it allows you to sublimate the emotions which have been bothering you for so long, and do so in a way you don't find arduous and ineffective (like therapy), or trivial and "just to make other people happy". If you stop, the brain will consume itself. Feel me? Oh yeah, heroin helps too :| The fact that work is created is more a really awesome corollary, and not the intent.
Leroy Johnson Are you saying heroin helps with depression? i sure hope i read that wrong . As a recovering heroin addict myself i have found heroin to be only good for destroying ones self
Tried it but I have a buddy for it for some content. But most songs in style I usually take over and record everything on my own because I am the only one who can play an instrument well 😭🤣
I got a little project going right now and I totally I love being able to make each part sound the way I want it to. And it also lets you experiment, for example I just finished a black metal song but I also plan on making a stoner metal song as well.
Striborg seems like such a cool guy to hang around with. He always struck me more as someone who's just kind of making his way through his situation in his own way, rather than dealing with it through full-on hardcore misanthropy and dismay for mankind, but by re-focusing his efforts into just wandering out into nature and sitting there for a couple of hours as if he's a part of it. Something about that really spoke to me. All three are fantastic artists in their own rights, and have kind of set the "golden standard" as to what 'good' black metal is.
1:30 Just watching Scott during this part connects with me so much in regards to social interaction.. You can literally see the awkwardness and slight anxiety
Thank you so much for seeking these artists out, allowing us to connect to them on a different level, and I thank all of the artists as well for agreeing to be seen. It is such a great opportunity to have this documentary.
@A Flick all the other bm docs are filled with stock footage of venom and talk about nothing but mayhem and emperor and sensationalized bullshit like the burnings
@@DrinkingBleachOnTheBeach dude i was listening to Bathory, Venom in 1988 and Celtic Frost in 1986. I just fell in love with Norwegian black metal movement. It was my passion for 2 decades. But yes it all originated from those bands.
as a struggling solo black metal artist with an (small) online following, this was very encouraging. they are using the same setups i am. have similar views on how the music is and should be created. they struggle like me with the day to day dealings with people. this was helpful getting to know these guys better after being a fan for years.
Really interesting finding two bands from my state, one actually being close. The sad thing is, there's no social part of this genre. 99.9% of people in California that like Black Metal never show it, there are no live gigs, and they all keep it to themselves in private. So, if you live here and are into the genre, there's a very low chance to share said interest with someone else. And the other sad part is, like these artists, they're quite depressed themselves. A blessing and a burden.
I live in Arabia. I love BM but of course I don't have many folks to talk to about it. I do however have a guitar instructor and he's a very nice guy, we talk sometimes about metal in general. But I do feel alone in my love for BM here. It's fine though, I don't like live gigs and in general I find going outside repulsing (as edgy as it sounds). This is music to enjoy alone to me. It's not music to go into a crowd and have fun to.
Same and from LA too, and it's quite true. I've always kind of withheld my interests from people and kept to myself. Now it's just consuming me in my mid 20s.
This is one of the best music-related documentaries in youtube. Leviathan and Xasthur seem both pretty interesting, can't really say the same about Striborg but they all make good music with nice atmospheres.
dude, this documentary is fucking amazing. Would've been nice if Vice continued down this path. Not only does this give insight to Black Metal, but also to haunting relationships people can have with themselves, which helps in showing the beauty of black metal. I liked how Wrest touched on the fact that this type of BM shows the world in its most pure form: raw and brutal. Contrasting DSBM to atmospheric BM, which is an escape from this world. Well done
I felt kind of sorry for Scott. He is obviously an incredibly isolated person, and it seemed almost like he was so used to being depressed and alone that he wouldn't let himself be happy. It seemed like he had a heavy guard up around him and at certain moments he would drop it and smile slightly or get slightly more upbeat like when he saw his cat, but then realize it and descend back into the depression. Quite sad
I don’t know much about Black Metal, but these 3 guys are clearly serious about their art. Both the American guys in particular really seem to have suffered and have been damaged by life. I hope they can find some peace and happiness.
Ahh, me too. I just didn’t share anything on camera. I don’t wear it on my sleeves like Americans do. I am autistic, does that sound like enough struggle for you? Everyone has a story or rather too many to mention.
Russell's description of how he writes music and feels like a medium through which it comes out makes so much sense to me. It's really cool to see somebody else who thinks like that.
4:51 Emperor - Anthems... + Emperor + Wrath of the tyrant Funeral Mist - Salvation Deathspell Omega - Si Monumentum Requires, Circumspice Furze - Trident Autocrat Immolation - Failures for gods I see Jeff has his musical taste in order...
@@junesuprise A lot of people make music that _other people_ like listening to. To be successful, make money and so on. Music that is entertainment, but not necessarily art.
This is actually really good, Ive been avoiding this for a while because idk, I thought itd be another "in depth but not really" documentary the fact that you got Leviathan is already a great start
In this documentary, I experienced the genius mind of Xasthur/Scott Connor for the first time. I bought almost all of his releases after this documentary and am still thrilled to enjoy them regularly. In no words I can express how much his records give to me, how much they do to my soul and how much my heart is aching while listening to them. Pure art, directly coming from his soul.Few artist achieve this enormous level. Though his latest records are not my personal style, they are not bad at all. That "pagenism"-stuff is just not mine. I wish he would go back to his original sound, but at least, he has (and will) to go his unique way of being himself. And I appreciate that. Even if I can't go the way along with him.
because being truly indie and underground means you only want a select few to discover and enjoy your music haha. If they can't read the logo and still want to check it out, you know they're dedicated.
well they are one-man bands so clearly they spend a ton of time and pour loads of thought and emotion into their releases. Striborg is an interesting and funny guy, but his stuff is pretty naff. Leviathan and Xasthur are brilliant and unique projects, though. The latter doesn't make BM anymore anyway, he ended it then revived it as an acoustic act. The guys certainly pour far more time and effort into their releases than the average, garbage mainstream metal band does.
I watched this doc in high school at 16 in 2015. I always told myself that I wanted to get tattooed by Jef after really getting into his music. So far I have been twice and I go back to this doc a lot in awe. Thank you noisey for the doc, met a legend and got a couple of tats cause of you guys. USBM is very important to me and this was the start. Eternal hails.
the guy from striborg in australia was legit. maybe if people were still that spiritually connected to music and that passionate about what they were creating to were they could find a kinship between their instruments/music and nature itself, maybe there would be some effing humanity in music these days. and i like how every time he reveals a location of someone, it starts off as "an unlikely location..." everywhere from australia to europe to cali was "unlikely". did u think they all lived in caves, like bats?? lol
From time to time I rewatch this great doc and always found something new. We were so lucky to have a glimpse into the surface of the context of those three immense artists. Props to the guy for making the right questions with respect , intelligence and a genuine pure crystal clear intention.
when he says "here's a few reasons for you listening to this, you might want to look into dying and killing yourself." I think the documentary got that part wrong. Its framed as if he's encouraging people to kill themselves, but what I interpreted it as is him saying that his music makes you confront those dark aspects of yourself and your own mind. Exploring these parts of ourselves that we shut out most of the time and forcing the listener to confront them.
@@fredfredericks3496 'mentally disturbed' is such a funny term thrown around by people living in a delusion where everything is rainbows and sparkles, just accept the fact that life isnt like that alr and cut the bullsh. These types of people are just living life in its purest form, which is really tough but definitely not a mental illness.
I think it’s more so he’s been unhappy and lonely for so long that he has a large compendious of internal anger directed towards a abstract of those that are happy. It’s frustrating to feel that way when other’s don’t, however he acknowledges that many feel the same way.
Yea he’s autistic that’s why he said that so weirdly/effortlessly. His not that smart overall. He poses for picture with rope but says he can’t sing about killing himself because he wouldn’t do it (why? - like actually that would be interesting because I thought he’s all about killing himself)
i cant agree with that, because there is no "real" in black metal, or you end up like 99% of todays "black" metal commercialism that attend huge commercial metal festivals, pose around with fake blood etc. Leviathan for me is perfect example of an extremely personal black metal that is 100% original and thats what i love about this band/artist. jeff did amazing job, he mixes pure black metal riffs with strange noise and drone stuff, and makes it so personal with vocals. and contrary to popular belief that black metal from usa sucks, leviathan and xasthur are 2 of few best black metal artist ive heard so far. once upon a time, les legions noires movement was what i consider true black metal of that time, same with inner circle, but that was in early 90s. LLN is dead, and ex-inner circle bands now pose and make clowns of themselves on hellfests etc. in short they live from old cult status (i mean bands like todays mayhem etc). there are still amazing bands from these 2 countries (france and norway) like peste noire, mutiilation, s.v.e.s.t, darkthrone, aura noir, etc. but bands like old mayhem, old burzum, vlad tepes, old belketre, old darkthrone, its thing of the past. i know most of metal people today will disagree with me. this is just my opinion and view on today's metal scene.
to be honest i was referring mostly to bands like dark funeral for example, that empty, plastic side of what black metal has become, pure exploit and show. mostly bands today sound like that, same recycle over and over again. thats why i extremely respect and like peste noire, to me they are like middle finger to the whole bunch of clowns on the scene today. another masterpiece that is so underrated today is album urfaust from 2003 by french band s.v.e.s.t. i swear its pure masterpiece, but not for every ear, it has pretty noisy sound. thats what black metal is about. was, to be more precise. i dont judge anyone who listens that, or any kind of music, its just my opinion on the music itself today. hell, i heard lots of opinions on my music taste in my life, i listen all from earth, sunn o))), boris, eyehategod, electric wizard, sleep, st.vitus, candlemass, to bands like belketre, vlad tepes, burzum, peste noire, darkthrone, etc...
well yes, there was a shock element through evolution of black metal, i agree, but its not that what makes it do soulless today. i meant things like overdoing the same thing over and over again, recycling, plastic and overproduced sound, too much focus on visual, almost symphonic sound, lack of raw sound and atmosphere, etc, i mean, for me personally, those things kill the very point and soul of black metal. i know there are people that like that and i really respect anyones taste. many of my friends like that sound today, even if they are almost 40 and they grew up on "good old" metal. i just feel like "you heard one, youve heard it all". and again, im saying this only in general, there are as always few exceptions for me that make great music today in this subgenre.
Being a one man band and producer myself, I know how it feels to want control over your own production, to make music you would listen to. If I didn't have music in my life, I would be in jail, or dead. Honest, it is that powerful for dealing with internal stresses and managing internal conflicts. I call it polishing my hate.
They're probably just saying that because of the really dark, sort of BM aesthetic of Black One, which is pretty stupid, a band's sound shouldn't be judged just by one album.
Lol thanks man, I haven't uploaded anything in a while, need to get back on that. And YES, quite possibly my favorite episode. "Lemme see that chocolate thunda!" :D
I too agree.I share same .NO time for egos .while others find it necessary to compete,I feel no need to compete on creativity.self expression is NOT a competitive sport. Scott and I have more in commend than he will ever know.
do you ,Lord Gangrel Agar Waen,like Tietanblood ? I will post my cover of Leviathan division soon. Verrnictung would be eager to hear some of your accomplishments .
@@jessepinkeye2339 because he actually says in the interview if his neighbors found out who they were they'd throw rocks at is house... It's kind of self explanatory
These men seem to live in forced isolation because they are terrified to be vulnerable, to come face to face with some sacred wound inside. They don't need to be alone. They were vulnerable in this video - their general sense of shyness is plain to see - but they are all intelligent, talented, and deeply creative. People would happily accept them into the fold, if they could just get over the hurdle and find their own tribe. There are people in the world waiting to accept them. I hope they'll be strong enough to be accepted one day.
whiskeyhammer FukkU Bad things happen in the world, along with beautiful things. Be strong enough to bear the former, vulnerable enough to let in the latter, and you'll be okay. If they had no interest in the world, they wouldn't distribute their music. And that music, as dark as it is, is something of a lifeline. But they don't need to be accepted by proxy. People will accept them.
@atownlefttrain I highly doubt these people make music for anyone but themselves. I know for a fact Wrest has a lot of stuff he has never released. And maybe it's an outlet, to keep from being consumed by their demons.
whiskeyhammer FukkU I am sure they make music for themselves, in the sense that people who over-inflate their own misery and are "disappointed" with the world are suffering from a form of narcissism. But narcissists do want to be recognized in some form, as they do, that's why they make CDs. By calling them narcissists, I am not putting them down, I mean that they are emotionally stunted and dealing with an adolescent form of self-obsession. What makes me sad, getting back to my original post, is that the best way to not be consumed by your demons is to be vulnerable enough to be loved, and to let the love and beauty that is in this world shine through you. They feel more comfortable living in a cave searching out phosphorescent rocks for light rather than stepping outside and embracing the sunlight they desperately desire. But misery can be comfortable and familiar. Happiness can radiate in the terrifying unknown. It is a fatal flaw in love to hold onto your pain like it means something. I hope they will find a way out.
atownlefttrain Oh christ, you're one of "those" people. "There is no refuge from yourself" - Matt Rasmusssen "You're on Earth. There's no cure for that" - Samuel Beckett "You will never be able to experience everything. So, please, do poetical justice to your soul and simply experience yourself" - Albert Camus Think about it.
I have been into metal all my life. Never found black metal I liked. This documentary revealed three projects that I fucking absolutely am amazed by. Thank you!
Every time I watch this.. It makes me more drawn towards the deep and the beautifully dark realm of death.. But again I find it melancholic and serene at the same time..
I‘ve always been into rap and i still am but as an artist (i make clothes and jewlery no music) im trying to get to know more and more about this genre of music cause it’s so inspiring! Also maybe cause people often think im into metal cause i got like at least 20 tats like pentagrams and burning churches all over me and stupid people don‘t think that goes together with rap. And i love this pure energy and darkness in the music!
2024 and still rewatching this masterpiece, really cool documentary, I love Norwegian Black metal but I think they should make some documentary focused on real BM music and not the thing with Mayhem. Bm is much more than that.
I re-watch this on occasion because of how good it is. Right now, I'm reading the USBM book that Decibel Magazine put out and after reading about Leviathan and Xasthur, it put me in the mood to re-watch this.
All my favorite black metal bands end up being one man bands. There’s just something special that an artist alone in every sense can capture for me in this music. They tick all the boxes
"I dont recall ever making claims I cant back up in my lyrics like "I'm gonna kill myself" I dont do that. But instead what I do is i just say "hey, here's a few reasons for YOU, listening to this, you might wanna look into dying, and killing yourself...you might wanna look into that....*stares at the floor*" -Video ends-
Warlock B.C. Rich was my first guitar. Still have it, filled with dust. Left music behind, unfortunately.... things change, life changes, other needs and other responsabilities. But I still have my first guitar right by my side to remember those times.
Real misanthropes are not found in solitude, but in the world; since it is experience of life, and not philosophy, which produces real hatred of mankind. -Giacomo Leopardi
Nice work by JR Robinson and the cinematographer and editor. Getting access. The look of astral terror at 13:02. Great reaction shot to Xasthur talking about "looking into dying." Love, I mean, utterly hate with a soul-wrenching passion, the black and white look and all the terrific mood-setting location shots. 10/10 I was not interested in black metal till I saw this!
well, you must have heard at least a thousand times by now that "tr00 black metal is not for niggas", but, since you've obviously learned not to care, just enjoy.
Years back, between stints as a guest of the state, I got up with a dude that was trying to put together a BM band. I auditioned as drummer and did some vocals and he said I was in. Not long after, he was having mad issues finding a bass player and a second guitarist or vocalist or drummer (he and I could fill different shit so it didn't matter). I was playin in punk bands mostly but I ended up moving back to the City and lost contact, got locked up and when I got out i found he had emailed me a bunch of his music that he'd started doing completely solo. Shit was really dope. Really respect the guy. Ashame nobody really knows em and I can't remember what he changed his name too lol Was in talks with the guy behind Secrets She Kept way back to drum for him but nothin ever came of it. He's had a little success over the years. Also respect the hell out of him. Can't not respect these solo cats. I've done a decent amount of solo recording, playing everything myself or just me and another person swapping roles and it's not easy. There's a groove a full band gets into that 1 or 2 people just can't really do. Idk.
I actually met Xasthur/Scott when he did two acoustic tours back in 2017/2018. As much as a dark, brooding dude he is here, he's super down to Earth and kind in person. He even remembered me the second time i went to see him after the show. Not sure how he is nowadays, but it was pretty cool seeing Xasthur perform live and also meeting him + rest of the live band.
I also did ask him about being locked in a coffin for the recording of the Black One by Sunn O))) and it's actually real instead of being a rumor like I thought.
Gotta give it up for dude interviewing these guys. It's crystal fucking clear the biggest reason why this doc is so good, is because you've got an interviewer with a genuine invested interest in the subject matter and the people behind it all. Just an honest fan who understands how to ride the line between not going the fanboy route while simultaneously being genuine enough to get these guys to open up in ways that will probably never happen again.
Facts!
he got a tattoo just to show how serious he was!
truecifer
Finally, a BM documentary that isn't focussed on Varg's "self-defense" or a sensational piece on church burnings we all seen 10000 times ! This very refreshing and with respect to the Artists and BM , cheers !
@Arya No shit. People are just too dumb to understand such things
@Árpád not by any legal yardstick
@Jesus Hong still selfdefence.. also, Caesar fucked Brutus' mom, so there's a history lesson for you
This comment wins.
But Varg = everything that is right with Black Metal. He walked the walk. That is all that matters. Everything else is just "entertainment" until they actually live what they speak of.
Xasthur is an absolutely fantastic vocalist
xasthur just agreed to the interview so he could prove he doesnt use a drum machine
And he only bought it a couple weeks ago. Lol
😂😂
Hahaha
What's wrong with a drum machine?
@@Xogroroth666 what isn't wrong with it? It isn't very metal. Varg sure as fuck didnt use a drum machine...
Finally a black metal doc where they actually talk about the music not just whatever sensationalist bullshit news story is trending about the artist.
sikk cops 👏👏👏Vice did a 30 min doc on Gorgoroth. But not about the band and its music, but instead about the controversy surrounding their frontman. Fucking reporters.
sikk cops. yeah, I'm tired of seeing the articles/docs of racism in black metal. like, I do understand that the community has those individuals, but I wish to learn more of the genre
''Artist"...LOL!!!!!!!!!!
True (no pun intented)
Black metal is inherently sensational it's not just about the music it's the image and stories you think most black metal bands actually worship satan unironically
This documentary has been hugely inspirational and influential to me over the years.
Same
Now that’s sad
Dsbm is like the worst thing in black metal
"I like to, like 'aaaaaah"
"Can you do it like, loud?
"No, hehee, i, maybe! heh...
"It'd be cool if you did...
"KiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiL!"
"Something like that. Yeah."
yessss
I was half asleep already when I clicked on this video. Falling asleep only to be awoken by that kkkkkiillllllllllllll!!!!
Anyways these guys remind me of the goths from south park
@Christopher Norris I just got a cringe-induced seizure
Mike Fantasia but these are metalheads, not like goth pussies
@Christopher Norris lmao
This totally resonates. What most people will never get is that when you have an intimate relationship with a personal soundscape, it's more real than anything in the outside world. The landscape of the music is a place of rest, whether comforting or distressing. It's mind made real. A creation myth realized.
Very true
Thats it g. Thats whatit feels like when i make mrtvi
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Xasthurs scream at the beginning is just chilling
Fucking oath
Ikr oooOoOoof
KILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEYAHHHHHHHHHHHHEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
true i don't even like bm but might check his stuff out now
@St Alfonso The production makes you throw up. That's for sure. Can you imagine how it would sound with a decent sound?
These people are fucking fascinating. They are depressed, yet they create things that are greater than them (and than us).
Gonna listen to some Leviathan now.
Shantrek ylospollas
Yes this is absolutely amazing yet not understandable for me.
I'm suffering from major depression and countless other mental health issues, which I don't even know all the names for them anymore. I only do things which are absolutely necessary and leave out everything else, which I don't have to do.
These people suffer from similar things, yet they have the will and energy to create music, on their OWN. I can't relate to that, but I find it so fascinating and I'm happy for them, that they found something, which they love doing.
koden hrebs I have (not suffer from I hate that) bipolar type 2 with psychotic features (mirroring schizotypal on my upswings) and heavy anxiety and I make (as different aliases) everything from Deathcore to Post Rock to Dubstep to Folk Punk and have amassed my own studio. Break through the dim grey.
koden hrebs as a musician, record producer, extremely depressed yet accomplished individual who has fought major depression his entire life, I can explain it. Focusing on the creative process is cathartic when you're depressed; it allows you to sublimate the emotions which have been bothering you for so long, and do so in a way you don't find arduous and ineffective (like therapy), or trivial and "just to make other people happy". If you stop, the brain will consume itself. Feel me? Oh yeah, heroin helps too :|
The fact that work is created is more a really awesome corollary, and not the intent.
Leroy Johnson very very well put.
Leroy Johnson Are you saying heroin helps with depression? i sure hope i read that wrong . As a recovering heroin addict myself i have found heroin to be only good for destroying ones self
Been a one man band is brilliant, everything you play and record comes from you, it's entirely your own creation, I love my one man project.
Same here dude, I like others now and then tho to help take the weight of my shoulders. For more personal /experimental I use my one man project
What's your project
Tried it but I have a buddy for it for some content. But most songs in style I usually take over and record everything on my own because I am the only one who can play an instrument well 😭🤣
I agree! I just posted my first song
I got a little project going right now and I totally I love being able to make each part sound the way I want it to. And it also lets you experiment, for example I just finished a black metal song but I also plan on making a stoner metal song as well.
Striborg seems like such a cool guy to hang around with. He always struck me more as someone who's just kind of making his way through his situation in his own way, rather than dealing with it through full-on hardcore misanthropy and dismay for mankind, but by re-focusing his efforts into just wandering out into nature and sitting there for a couple of hours as if he's a part of it. Something about that really spoke to me. All three are fantastic artists in their own rights, and have kind of set the "golden standard" as to what 'good' black metal is.
1:30 Just watching Scott during this part connects with me so much in regards to social interaction.. You can literally see the awkwardness and slight anxiety
he such an awkward man but i fw him
Thank you so much for seeking these artists out, allowing us to connect to them on a different level, and I thank all of the artists as well for agreeing to be seen. It is such a great opportunity to have this documentary.
That's by far the best Black Metal Documentary i've ever seen in my entire life. Congratulations.
@A Flick all the other bm docs are filled with stock footage of venom and talk about nothing but mayhem and emperor and sensationalized bullshit like the burnings
@@bornwithclothes Eternal flame of Gehenna, for example is a good one.
Some of us here in the US have been a part of it longer than what you know. Long before. Just saying...
@@metalheadmike774what are you saying? Black metal popped up originally in England and Sweden with bathory and venom and then Norway
@@DrinkingBleachOnTheBeach dude i was listening to Bathory, Venom in 1988 and Celtic Frost in 1986. I just fell in love with Norwegian black metal movement. It was my passion for 2 decades. But yes it all originated from those bands.
as a struggling solo black metal artist with an (small) online following, this was very encouraging. they are using the same setups i am. have similar views on how the music is and should be created. they struggle like me with the day to day dealings with people. this was helpful getting to know these guys better after being a fan for years.
What’s your name?
i’ve probably watched this documentary about 50 times
Same. It is.. inspirational. Definetely.
Same. It’s one of the best documentaries ever!
Been there haha
Sameee!!
My God, there was a 2 year period where this was what I fell asleep watching
Really interesting finding two bands from my state, one actually being close. The sad thing is, there's no social part of this genre. 99.9% of people in California that like Black Metal never show it, there are no live gigs, and they all keep it to themselves in private. So, if you live here and are into the genre, there's a very low chance to share said interest with someone else. And the other sad part is, like these artists, they're quite depressed themselves. A blessing and a burden.
From California too man. I show my love for black metal and I'll admit it. You'll find us as you keep looking.
I live in Arabia. I love BM but of course I don't have many folks to talk to about it. I do however have a guitar instructor and he's a very nice guy, we talk sometimes about metal in general. But I do feel alone in my love for BM here. It's fine though, I don't like live gigs and in general I find going outside repulsing (as edgy as it sounds). This is music to enjoy alone to me. It's not music to go into a crowd and have fun to.
I'm in norcal and there are metal shows in the city. You just have to look.
Same and from LA too, and it's quite true. I've always kind of withheld my interests from people and kept to myself. Now it's just consuming me in my mid 20s.
@@jexikavindictive It's mostly grindcore, crust, and thrash, though. You know, punk-ish subgenres performed in taprooms and sidewalks with needles.
*Talk about one-man black metal bands*
* Does not mention Burzum*
ah yes, the most overrated black metal band ever
+shane c theres already been too much stuff made about Burzum, and barely anything about these 3 artists.
varg is the quintessential black metal loner, one doesn't even need to mention him any longer
oh, you mean the one man project of racist murdering sociopath Kristian Vikernes? that Burzum?
Babby's first BM.
Every few months I revisit this documentary, honestly one of the better black metal docs out there in my opinion.
Same
I find myself back here watching this every now and then with some beers.
A great watch.
This is one of the best music-related documentaries in youtube. Leviathan and Xasthur seem both pretty interesting, can't really say the same about Striborg but they all make good music with nice atmospheres.
how so? not saying that he isn't but I am most impressed by xasthurs music
I don't care what they're like as people. Striborg are pretty fucking good man.
Striborg is deep you have to meditate to it. Do that and its awesome
This is one of my favorite documentaries on black metal. We need more DSBM docs. Xasthur's scream at the beginning was excellent.
dude, this documentary is fucking amazing. Would've been nice if Vice continued down this path. Not only does this give insight to Black Metal, but also to haunting relationships people can have with themselves, which helps in showing the beauty of black metal. I liked how Wrest touched on the fact that this type of BM shows the world in its most pure form: raw and brutal. Contrasting DSBM to atmospheric BM, which is an escape from this world. Well done
I've watched this mini series at least 100 times and still find something new every time I watch it. So entertaining
Great fucking documentary ...These guys are really talented.
Xasthur is genuinely disturbed
I felt kind of sorry for Scott. He is obviously an incredibly isolated person, and it seemed almost like he was so used to being depressed and alone that he wouldn't let himself be happy. It seemed like he had a heavy guard up around him and at certain moments he would drop it and smile slightly or get slightly more upbeat like when he saw his cat, but then realize it and descend back into the depression. Quite sad
THOTH when was the part with the cat?
Dude, I know! I started to get like a panic attack after listening to him talk. And did you notice all of the scars up and down his arms?
Lil peep the GOAT
thoth where is xastur with the cat part ?
I don’t know much about Black Metal, but these 3 guys are clearly serious about their art. Both the American guys in particular really seem to have suffered and have been damaged by life. I hope they can find some peace and happiness.
Ahh, me too. I just didn’t share anything on camera. I don’t wear it on my sleeves like Americans do. I am autistic, does that sound like enough struggle for you?
Everyone has a story or rather too many to mention.
@@suicidalghost6719wow I didn't think I'd see you here 😂. Btw keep up the great work and I'm a great fan.
Russell's description of how he writes music and feels like a medium through which it comes out makes so much sense to me. It's really cool to see somebody else who thinks like that.
4:51
Emperor - Anthems... + Emperor + Wrath of the tyrant
Funeral Mist - Salvation
Deathspell Omega - Si Monumentum Requires, Circumspice
Furze - Trident Autocrat
Immolation - Failures for gods
I see Jeff has his musical taste in order...
Where do you see references to those albums?
I meant to write 4:52
Not to mention Gorguts sneaking into frame.
Glad I wasn't the only one to pause it there just to look at his music collection :D
and Clandestine Blaze's Deliverers of Faith, actually my favorite record by him.
Sometime next week. Glad you liked it. We do this for you!
"I'm just making the music that I actually like to listen to"
True artist
wtf what else would he make
@@junesuprise A lot of people make music that _other people_ like listening to. To be successful, make money and so on. Music that is entertainment, but not necessarily art.
I never get tired of this documentary. It's defiantly one of my most favorites!
This is actually really good, Ive been avoiding this for a while because idk, I thought itd be another "in depth but not really" documentary the fact that you got Leviathan is already a great start
In this documentary, I experienced the genius mind of Xasthur/Scott Connor for the first time. I bought almost all of his releases after this documentary and am still thrilled to enjoy them regularly. In no words I can express how much his records give to me, how much they do to my soul and how much my heart is aching while listening to them. Pure art, directly coming from his soul.Few artist achieve this enormous level.
Though his latest records are not my personal style, they are not bad at all. That "pagenism"-stuff is just not mine. I wish he would go back to his original sound, but at least, he has (and will) to go his unique way of being himself. And I appreciate that. Even if I can't go the way along with him.
It seems the more extreme the band the harder it is to read their name in their logo
Woah
Ussually yes.
because being truly indie and underground means you only want a select few to discover and enjoy your music haha. If they can't read the logo and still want to check it out, you know they're dedicated.
... Or you could just learn how to design a decent logo. Some mostly illegible logos are works of art, though. I have always loved Xasthur's logo.
well they are one-man bands so clearly they spend a ton of time and pour loads of thought and emotion into their releases. Striborg is an interesting and funny guy, but his stuff is pretty naff. Leviathan and Xasthur are brilliant and unique projects, though. The latter doesn't make BM anymore anyway, he ended it then revived it as an acoustic act. The guys certainly pour far more time and effort into their releases than the average, garbage mainstream metal band does.
I watched this doc in high school at 16 in 2015. I always told myself that I wanted to get tattooed by Jef after really getting into his music. So far I have been twice and I go back to this doc a lot in awe. Thank you noisey for the doc, met a legend and got a couple of tats cause of you guys. USBM is very important to me and this was the start. Eternal hails.
It took the night to believe...
Respect to these guys for doing what they love. It takes guts to really be on your own.
the guy from striborg in australia was legit. maybe if people were still that spiritually connected to music and that passionate about what they were creating to were they could find a kinship between their instruments/music and nature itself, maybe there would be some effing humanity in music these days.
and i like how every time he reveals a location of someone, it starts off as "an unlikely location..." everywhere from australia to europe to cali was "unlikely". did u think they all lived in caves, like bats?? lol
***** There's actually a lot of good black metal bands in America in places like Florida or Texas
(Sat, Aug 17, 2024)
Venom, Bathory, & Celtic Frost
2:04 2:30
Leviathan (Oakland, CA) 3:22
“Honesty in a picked on loner thats screaming his head off”
0:32 0:36
Striborg 7:13
Xasthur (LA) 10:09
yelling "KILL"1:30 1:38 1:50
From time to time I rewatch this great doc and always found something new. We were so lucky to have a glimpse into the surface of the context of those three immense artists. Props to the guy for making the right questions with respect , intelligence and a genuine pure crystal clear intention.
when he says "here's a few reasons for you listening to this, you might want to look into dying and killing yourself." I think the documentary got that part wrong. Its framed as if he's encouraging people to kill themselves, but what I interpreted it as is him saying that his music makes you confront those dark aspects of yourself and your own mind. Exploring these parts of ourselves that we shut out most of the time and forcing the listener to confront them.
I disagree. I hate journalists, but this guy is mentally disturbed. He's funny though.
@@fredfredericks3496 'mentally disturbed' is such a funny term thrown around by people living in a delusion where everything is rainbows and sparkles, just accept the fact that life isnt like that alr and cut the bullsh. These types of people are just living life in its purest form, which is really tough but definitely not a mental illness.
I think it’s more so he’s been unhappy and lonely for so long that he has a large compendious of internal anger directed towards a abstract of those that are happy. It’s frustrating to feel that way when other’s don’t, however he acknowledges that many feel the same way.
Wow. Love how you really tried to explain away what he plainly said.
Yea he’s autistic that’s why he said that so weirdly/effortlessly.
His not that smart overall. He poses for picture with rope but says he can’t sing about killing himself because he wouldn’t do it (why? - like actually that would be interesting because I thought he’s all about killing himself)
Leviathan is truly a perfect example of real Black Metal
i cant agree with that, because there is no "real" in black metal, or you end up like 99% of todays "black" metal commercialism that attend huge commercial metal festivals, pose around with fake blood etc.
Leviathan for me is perfect example of an extremely personal black metal that is 100% original and thats what i love about this band/artist. jeff did amazing job, he mixes pure black metal riffs with strange noise and drone stuff, and makes it so personal with vocals. and contrary to popular belief that black metal from usa sucks, leviathan and xasthur are 2 of few best black metal artist ive heard so far.
once upon a time, les legions noires movement was what i consider true black metal of that time, same with inner circle, but that was in early 90s. LLN is dead, and ex-inner circle bands now pose and make clowns of themselves on hellfests etc. in short they live from old cult status (i mean bands like todays mayhem etc).
there are still amazing bands from these 2 countries (france and norway) like peste noire, mutiilation, s.v.e.s.t, darkthrone, aura noir, etc. but bands like old mayhem, old burzum, vlad tepes, old belketre, old darkthrone, its thing of the past.
i know most of metal people today will disagree with me. this is just my opinion and view on today's metal scene.
to be honest i was referring mostly to bands like dark funeral for example, that empty, plastic side of what black metal has become, pure exploit and show. mostly bands today sound like that, same recycle over and over again. thats why i extremely respect and like peste noire, to me they are like middle finger to the whole bunch of clowns on the scene today. another masterpiece that is so underrated today is album urfaust from 2003 by french band s.v.e.s.t. i swear its pure masterpiece, but not for every ear, it has pretty noisy sound. thats what black metal is about. was, to be more precise.
i dont judge anyone who listens that, or any kind of music, its just my opinion on the music itself today. hell, i heard lots of opinions on my music taste in my life, i listen all from earth, sunn o))), boris, eyehategod, electric wizard, sleep, st.vitus, candlemass, to bands like belketre, vlad tepes, burzum, peste noire, darkthrone, etc...
well yes, there was a shock element through evolution of black metal, i agree, but its not that what makes it do soulless today. i meant things like overdoing the same thing over and over again, recycling, plastic and overproduced sound, too much focus on visual, almost symphonic sound, lack of raw sound and atmosphere, etc, i mean, for me personally, those things kill the very point and soul of black metal. i know there are people that like that and i really respect anyones taste. many of my friends like that sound today, even if they are almost 40 and they grew up on "good old" metal. i just feel like "you heard one, youve heard it all". and again, im saying this only in general, there are as always few exceptions for me that make great music today in this subgenre.
yeah its good but not real Mayhem, Burzum, Darkthrone Shining is true nordic Black Metal. Could be because I live in Norway that I feel this way😂😂
how is shining fitting into category of those 3? :D
Being a one man band and producer myself, I know how it feels to want control over your own production, to make music you would listen to. If I didn't have music in my life, I would be in jail, or dead. Honest, it is that powerful for dealing with internal stresses and managing internal conflicts. I call it polishing my hate.
Word
True.
Gay
If Scott Conner happened to be my neighbor, I'd probably share my beer with him every weekend.
One Man Metal=brilliant. Hope you guys keep doing these. There are tons of amazing one man black metal bands. Great job!
Look like some real fun guys to have a beer with.
Apparently you've never encountered fun.
Maybe 10 or 20 beers. Not one.
@@loganmohler737 word
Striborg seems pretty chill
If boring and anti social is your idea of a good time
Definitely agree. If I spend so much time alone, listening to my thoughts only, I inevitably drive myself insane by purely existing
Hippie Grinder669 that’s when you’re the most creative and real don’t suppress it all the time, embrace it sometimes and see what becomes of it.
Jeff Whitehead check his email every day, that nigga frontin.
But does he reply?
SUNN is black metal? I understand the atmospheric connection but, in terms of genre, they are COMPLETELY DRONE (a subsection of doom)
They're probably just saying that because of the really dark, sort of BM aesthetic of Black One, which is pretty stupid, a band's sound shouldn't be judged just by one album.
True. Hey I was listening to your DBR and Beverast uploads yesterday during work. Thanks.
Also nice prof pic, good episode
Lol thanks man, I haven't uploaded anything in a while, need to get back on that. And YES, quite possibly my favorite episode. "Lemme see that chocolate thunda!" :D
Sunn O))) collaborated with Malefic on an album. Plus they have dabbled a bit in black metal though mostly on the album with Scott
Drone is not a subsection of doom tho, drone doom/drone metal is the fusion of both drone music and doom metal.
I am inspired. I am going to start a One Man Book Club.
Alexander Bjerkvik Im Gonna start a One man Circle jerk
I fucking love xasthur, I make music just for the art and scott conner is my hero
I too agree.I share same .NO time for egos .while others find it necessary to compete,I feel no need to compete on creativity.self expression is NOT a competitive sport. Scott and I have more in commend than he will ever know.
THREE WORDS... XASTHUR FUCKING RULES!!! NOTHING MORE!!!
Vernictung would agree.
do you ,Lord Gangrel Agar Waen,like Tietanblood ? I will post my cover of Leviathan division soon. Verrnictung would be eager to hear some of your accomplishments .
Are you still with us Jesse?
people are now throwing rocks at Russell's house thanks to this doc
Why? care to explain?
@@jessepinkeye2339 because he actually says in the interview if his neighbors found out who they were they'd throw rocks at is house... It's kind of self explanatory
@@MrBgood84 ooh I thought that actually happened some time after this vid. Thanks mate.
It’s not clearly obvious but wrest is a genius, which is why this is such an addictive and interesting watch. Great doc
The songs that play during Leviathan's interview are from his album Verräter. Look it up!
Thanks!
metalsabatico does that also go for the song that plays at the beginning? around 2:29
Rape cures Autism was wondering that myself
Well it’s been 6 months, time to watch this doc again.
I genuinely feel bad for Scott. He seems like he’s on the autistic spectrum.
That’s not autism. That’s more like psychopathy.
Psychopathic tendencies are common among the fringes of the metal scene. Especially black metal.
I'd still share my beer with him.
Thanks for this, Leviathan is one of my favorite artists
They HAVE to re continue this series!
Great, sincere interviews not asking stupid questions and filmed with expertise and respect to the musicians ❤
These men seem to live in forced isolation because they are terrified to be vulnerable, to come face to face with some sacred wound inside. They don't need to be alone. They were vulnerable in this video - their general sense of shyness is plain to see - but they are all intelligent, talented, and deeply creative. People would happily accept them into the fold, if they could just get over the hurdle and find their own tribe. There are people in the world waiting to accept them. I hope they'll be strong enough to be accepted one day.
Or maybe they have no interest in the world? Have you looked around lately? Shit is pretty fucked up.
whiskeyhammer FukkU Bad things happen in the world, along with beautiful things. Be strong enough to bear the former, vulnerable enough to let in the latter, and you'll be okay. If they had no interest in the world, they wouldn't distribute their music. And that music, as dark as it is, is something of a lifeline. But they don't need to be accepted by proxy. People will accept them.
@atownlefttrain I highly doubt these people make music for anyone but themselves. I know for a fact Wrest has a lot of stuff he has never released. And maybe it's an outlet, to keep from being consumed by their demons.
whiskeyhammer FukkU I am sure they make music for themselves, in the sense that people who over-inflate their own misery and are "disappointed" with the world are suffering from a form of narcissism. But narcissists do want to be recognized in some form, as they do, that's why they make CDs. By calling them narcissists, I am not putting them down, I mean that they are emotionally stunted and dealing with an adolescent form of self-obsession. What makes me sad, getting back to my original post, is that the best way to not be consumed by your demons is to be vulnerable enough to be loved, and to let the love and beauty that is in this world shine through you. They feel more comfortable living in a cave searching out phosphorescent rocks for light rather than stepping outside and embracing the sunlight they desperately desire. But misery can be comfortable and familiar. Happiness can radiate in the terrifying unknown. It is a fatal flaw in love to hold onto your pain like it means something. I hope they will find a way out.
atownlefttrain
Oh christ, you're one of "those" people. "There is no refuge from yourself" - Matt Rasmusssen
"You're on Earth. There's no cure for that" - Samuel Beckett
"You will never be able to experience everything. So, please, do poetical justice to your soul and simply experience yourself" - Albert Camus
Think about it.
Very intriguing. I'll admit I always considered Black Metal as campy fun, but this is real emotion these guys are putting into their music.
They're all so god damn eloquent and well spoken
Hahahahaha yeah I find that kinda interesting
Intelligent thoughtful artists usually are
I'm watching this documentary at least 3 times in a week, since january and can't get enough of that... i'm really addicted to this masterpiece!
I have been into metal all my life. Never found black metal I liked. This documentary revealed three projects that I fucking absolutely am amazed by. Thank you!
Every time I watch this.. It makes me more drawn towards the deep and the beautifully dark realm of death.. But again I find it melancholic and serene at the same time..
I've seen this so many times, it's amazing.
spinal tap, extreme edition
Black Metal is the perfect candidate. Totally ripe for the Spinal Tap treatment. Never take yourself too seriously.
I‘ve always been into rap and i still am but as an artist (i make clothes and jewlery no music) im trying to get to know more and more about this genre of music cause it’s so inspiring!
Also maybe cause people often think im into metal cause i got like at least 20 tats like pentagrams and burning churches all over me and stupid people don‘t think that goes together with rap.
And i love this pure energy and darkness in the music!
2024 and still rewatching this masterpiece, really cool documentary, I love Norwegian Black metal but I think they should make some documentary focused on real BM music and not the thing with Mayhem. Bm is much more than that.
9:36 My god, i have never heard anyone explain their music so beautifuly
Striborg’s description of his music sounds nothing like black metal lol, dude sounds like a true artist, not for me but I respect it
Leviathan dude seens pretty chill and nice in my book.
Jef Whitehead probably isnt nice.
@@Misantroph0 Most loners aren't mean or bad people, they just want to be left alone
Song at 2:03 is Leviathan - Return To Evernight
Thanks 👹🔥
I've been wondering this for years. Thank you!
I re-watch this on occasion because of how good it is. Right now, I'm reading the USBM book that Decibel Magazine put out and after reading about Leviathan and Xasthur, it put me in the mood to re-watch this.
Great video. Reminds me of one of my favourite solo BM projects, it's called Sadness.
We Need a 10 year update Documentary
Don't mind me just back watching this documentary for the 30th time
When he yelled "kill" in the beginning, it woke my gf up. She almost killed me!
Well it makes sense in every way
Scott really is this incredibly soft spoken and shy no matter what. Great dude.
All my favorite black metal bands end up being one man bands. There’s just something special that an artist alone in every sense can capture for me in this music. They tick all the boxes
Striborg interested me the most
Obey Rostipher Russell's pretty the most normal compared to Jef and Scott.
Finally a sane person here.
Yeah I bet he is a kick-ass D&D player!
nice to know that Scott is doing better these days.
man Scott has some entity around him you can almost feel it through the video
one of the best documentarys on black metal ,classic
I love your profile
I'm going to check some of this stuff out because you never know when and where you will find a song that you become obsessed with. Music is magic
"I dont recall ever making claims I cant back up in my lyrics like "I'm gonna kill myself" I dont do that. But instead what I do is i just say "hey, here's a few reasons for YOU, listening to this, you might wanna look into dying, and killing yourself...you might wanna look into that....*stares at the floor*"
-Video ends-
I admire these guys and I understand their need for solitude, and I like their music.
That's J.R. Robinson from Wrekmeister Harmonies, respect!
I like how each artist is a world for himself, and yet again they are so connected and similar in many ways
Warlock B.C. Rich was my first guitar. Still have it, filled with dust. Left music behind, unfortunately.... things change, life changes, other needs and other responsabilities. But I still have my first guitar right by my side to remember those times.
I love the fact that the interviewer knows his shit and isn't some hipster working for VICE. Please upload parts 2 and 3. Great content!
Leviathan and Xasthur are so rad
Real misanthropes are not
found in solitude, but in the
world; since it is experience of
life, and not philosophy, which
produces real hatred of
mankind.
-Giacomo Leopardi
People always call Xasthur a whiny kid, but watch this, dude lives it. Can't get more legit than this guy. Makes the music way more enjoyable.
Nice work by JR Robinson and the cinematographer and editor. Getting access. The look of astral terror at 13:02. Great reaction shot to Xasthur talking about "looking into dying." Love, I mean, utterly hate with a soul-wrenching passion, the black and white look and all the terrific mood-setting location shots. 10/10 I was not interested in black metal till I saw this!
im black and i like black metal
skrtcobain Living Colour is the best black metal band
well, you must have heard at least a thousand times by now that "tr00 black metal is not for niggas", but, since you've obviously learned not to care, just enjoy.
Me too, it’s problematic and amazing.
skrtcobain a perfect match lol😂
same
Scott Conner seems like a pretty fucking intense person. I find him really interesting.
Years back, between stints as a guest of the state, I got up with a dude that was trying to put together a BM band. I auditioned as drummer and did some vocals and he said I was in.
Not long after, he was having mad issues finding a bass player and a second guitarist or vocalist or drummer (he and I could fill different shit so it didn't matter). I was playin in punk bands mostly but I ended up moving back to the City and lost contact, got locked up and when I got out i found he had emailed me a bunch of his music that he'd started doing completely solo. Shit was really dope. Really respect the guy. Ashame nobody really knows em and I can't remember what he changed his name too lol
Was in talks with the guy behind Secrets She Kept way back to drum for him but nothin ever came of it. He's had a little success over the years. Also respect the hell out of him.
Can't not respect these solo cats. I've done a decent amount of solo recording, playing everything myself or just me and another person swapping roles and it's not easy. There's a groove a full band gets into that 1 or 2 people just can't really do. Idk.
The fact that this documentarist got Malefic on film is mind-blowing.
I actually met Xasthur/Scott when he did two acoustic tours back in 2017/2018. As much as a dark, brooding dude he is here, he's super down to Earth and kind in person. He even remembered me the second time i went to see him after the show.
Not sure how he is nowadays, but it was pretty cool seeing Xasthur perform live and also meeting him + rest of the live band.
I also did ask him about being locked in a coffin for the recording of the Black One by Sunn O))) and it's actually real instead of being a rumor like I thought.