I'd enjoy this a great deal more if it was conducted by someone who understands the music. The only thing I can say in Boulez' favour is that it's nowhere near as bad as his Mahler 9. Boulez is all right with early modernist repertoire, but this is quite outside his comfort zone.
Well, maybe you should try to criticize it with some sort of argument. Personally, I think this is an exceptional Bruckner 8 and one of the best things Boulez ever did in any repertoire, which is why I chose it for the video.
@@diegoparra8178 Here's an argument:, Wagner aside, Bruckner 8 is, it must be conceded, the least traduced of Boulez' attempts at conducting late-romantic repertoire. Wagner is an exception because long-range tonality is subordinated to the drama; Bruckner is an inherently "stop-starty" composer, so Boulez' inability to understand extended tonal spans (together with their internal modulations) is less of a handicap than it would be in the kind of repertoire that he avoided (and conveniently dismissed as "historically irrelevant"), e.g. Brahms's symphonies or concertos, because it would have cruelly exposed his severe limitations. If you want a solid illustration of Boulez' inability to understand large tonal spans, just listen to his ghastly performance/recording of Mahler 9, with the Vienna Phil (no less!); he sounds as though he has never heard the piece before, and is being fed single pages of the score in real time as he conducts. Boulez was OK with early modernists like Stravinsky and Bartók (in their more sectional works, at any rate), and with the freely atonal and serial works of the Second Viennese School. Schenker wrote, dismissively, of "surface" composers; he would surely have identified Boulez as a "surface" conductor.
He's had a number of gloriously intriguing scherzos of deceptive simplicity, but this one is surely the greatest!!!
Wow. Anton Bruckner, what a composer.
Surreal music. Thank you, Mr. Parra.
Thank you! It is amazing to listen and follow along with the score.
Interesting to hear this on easy mode, I've been obsessed with Jochum's 1964 recording of this
This belongs on my 'classical music for when you need to pump iron' workout playlist
The score link doesn’t work. Could you please make a new link to the score I would appreciate it a lot :-)
I'd enjoy this a great deal more if it was conducted by someone who understands the music. The only thing I can say in Boulez' favour is that it's nowhere near as bad as his Mahler 9.
Boulez is all right with early modernist repertoire, but this is quite outside his comfort zone.
Well, maybe you should try to criticize it with some sort of argument. Personally, I think this is an exceptional Bruckner 8 and one of the best things Boulez ever did in any repertoire, which is why I chose it for the video.
@@diegoparra8178 Here's an argument:, Wagner aside, Bruckner 8 is, it must be conceded, the least traduced of Boulez' attempts at conducting late-romantic repertoire. Wagner is an exception because long-range tonality is subordinated to the drama; Bruckner is an inherently "stop-starty" composer, so Boulez' inability to understand extended tonal spans (together with their internal modulations) is less of a handicap than it would be in the kind of repertoire that he avoided (and conveniently dismissed as "historically irrelevant"), e.g. Brahms's symphonies or concertos, because it would have cruelly exposed his severe limitations.
If you want a solid illustration of Boulez' inability to understand large tonal spans, just listen to his ghastly performance/recording of Mahler 9, with the Vienna Phil (no less!); he sounds as though he has never heard the piece before, and is being fed single pages of the score in real time as he conducts.
Boulez was OK with early modernists like Stravinsky and Bartók (in their more sectional works, at any rate), and with the freely atonal and serial works of the Second Viennese School.
Schenker wrote, dismissively, of "surface" composers; he would surely have identified Boulez as a "surface" conductor.
This isn’t even Boulez 😂
@@lorenzogallegos3504 You're right. I put the "right" comment under the wrong video. Sorry for that, and thanks for pointing it out.