S&W M&P Shield Plus - Nice But...
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- Опубликовано: 6 июн 2024
- Hello and welcome. Not long ago I noticed that I had not reviewed the @SmithAndWessonInc M&P Shield Plus. So I purchased one. In today's video we take a first look and towards the end I compare it to my daily carry. Will it become my new carry gun? Let's take a look.
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I bought my shield plus as soon as they hit the market. It has been my carry gun for about 3 years now. My shield's trigger has a smooth take up (no grinding sound), light wall, crisp break- easily under 4 pounds. I was at range recently, a man had a brand new shield plus and talking about how awful the trigger was. The optic screws holding the cover plate on were stripped from the factory and the trigger was bad. Heavy, gritty, and the reset was so long. I don't know what happened to S&W in over the past few years, but I think they forgot how to make a good pistol. QC seems to be all over the place.
I’ve heard that from a few viewers in other videos as well.
I have the performance center shield…the trigger needs some help….but it has never failed to fire in over 1000 rounds…that’s why I like it.
The 4” is the best IMO. So slimline yet still boasting a full 4” barrel. Best of the Micro compacts certainly. I run the 40 S&W 4” 2.0 non Plus with a 4.25” extended and ported 357 Sig barrel and it’s so sweet. So much power out of an ultra slim concealable setup. With 125gr Underwood ammo I’m netting over 600 ft/lbs of energy. With a Magguts spring it’s only a 8+1 but I wouldn’t give it up for anything for this type of application. I like the rubber sleeve on the grip for a more comfortable grip and bonus recoil absorption. It’s ridiculously accurate. I have the optic ready Performance Center version. What an amazing setup.
Sounds like you found a great set up! Thank you very much for stopping by.
Try the Shield Plus Performance Center. Basically the same gun but with better trigger and a ported barrel. Shoots like a dream. Might be the best carry gun out there. And...you can get 15 round magazines for it. Super concealable...EXCELLENT carry gun.
Even better, the 4” version…
I’ve been eyeing the performance center version. Thank you for stopping by.
You are right
Is there a big difference in comfort or being able to conceal the 4 in @@TransformersHoarder
@@bmj4052 I carry AIWB with a Workz Origin holster that can also be used OWB. Best yet.
So, I love the Shields in general... I'm not a 9 mm guy, but I did carry a Shield Plus for a while, until I got my Shield 45. I now alternate the M&P 45 & 40 versions as EDC.
I found the Shield Plus to be the "softest" shooting of the micro 9's. IMHO, it has less felt recoil than even the X-macro and Hellcat Pro. I liked the feel of the G43x/48 but found I was much more accurate with the Shield Plus.
My youngest daughter now carries my old Shield Plus, because she didn't like how snappy her Ruger EC9 was, and my 9 mm carry alternates between FN Reflex and Hellcat Pro. I tried to love the 365 X-macro, but I just don't like striker fired SIGs, with the exception of the M17 and M18, and the extreme high end Legions.
So, after a long-winded, distracted treastice of inconsequential information I'll wrap up with agreeing with you about choosing the one you shoot best... Don't choose a brand because "everyone says it's the best"... Choose the firearm that you personally can shoot the best, and gives you the best chance of surviving a life and death encounter.
That is excellent advice and I couldn't agree with you more. Thank you for watching!
well said !
are these 9mm shields to shield plus upper slides interchangeable from gen1 to gen4 updated models ? (aside from the lower frame and magazine ) .
I carry it daily and love it. Nice video.
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Also new sub here,and keep up the great content man!!!! 🎯🎯🎯🎯
Thank you very much! I truly appreciate it.
It’s really a nice gun,for small hands with good hand grip. Spent almost 1500 rounds,still working good, I add a Houge grip Handle it’s just good. It doesn’t matter how many clicks when you pull the trigger as long as you hit the target ,I’m good with that,Just my opinion. But your vlog is nice,good job,Thank you Sir,👍👍👍👍👍👍👏👏👏👏
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Well said! I hope you are feeling better. I can relate: I still have one of the original Shields, but seldom shoot it. I haven't carried it in years. There's nothing wrong with it or its newer versions, including the Shield Plus. I just never warmed up to losing the added grip length that I prefer, when changing mags.
Thank you. I appreciate that!
Shield plus got 15 rd mags now with extra grip length @thegunfighter45acp
Great review as usual! Would love to get your take on a complete p80 and MR920.
I have a video coming up on the P80 and I do have a video on the MR920.
Is the top rear of the dingus rubbing against the frame as you pull rearward? If so, a few scrapes of sandpaper in that portion of the dingus might stop the trigger from catching.
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I have the same thing on my trigger. I thought it would get better over time. Decided to change to the apex trigger. Otherwise, I love this gun. I am very accurate with it.
Apex is a very nice upgrade. Thank you for stopping by.
That was still pretty nice shooting for that distance. Nice honest review as always. I like my shield plus. For some reason, the shield series just fits my hand perfectly and I can shoot it very accurately right out of the box like my shield 45. I have a Hellcat but I just don't shoot it as accurately.
Thank you very much. I appreciate your kind words. Cheers!
I made my Shields into Subcompacts. I Bought a 3 5/8 inch Treaded Barrel for my 9mm Shield Plus from True Precision, A Hogue Grip. Also have a 9mm Shield with Trigger upgrade, New Adjustable Sites. and a 3 5/8 inch Faxon Barrel. Also a Hogue Grip. I bought the Shield a month before buying a Shield Plus. Great Stability and Accuracy. Shooting 12 ounces hanging Beer cans 20 yards easy and 40 yards Body size Targets. Reliability No Change. No Optic Cuts, Anyway I am Very happy with them.
I have the S&W M&P 40 and I love the way it shoots and the trigger is fine for me. I also purchased the 9mm performance center ported and it's all ❤❤❤. The way you feel about this trigger is the way I feel the same on other brands, models as well. If it dosen't fit you must acquit.
Well, this pistol was not for me, but I didn’t want to give up on the concept. So I purchased the performance center version video coming soon. Thank you for stopping by!
My M&P 10mm won't feed with any mag or any of the 5 factory ammo types I've tried; despite having been back to the factory TWIICE. The magazine also falls out of the bottom while shooting. S&W Customer service refuses to exchange it. I never thought I'd live to see the day that Ketech makes more reliable guns than S&W.
Wow! Take it to an armorer and get to the bottom of it and come back to save the internet. It has to be something simple.
He shouldn't have to take a S&W gun to an armorer to get it running right
That's not right and I'm surprised about what you say. I've only had 2 experiences with S&W customer service but both were resulted in outstanding service.
A nice review, and I also prefer my Glock grip to the Shield. I don't like how the thin narrow Shield grip twists side to side a little in my hand. I think that the grip is too oval with a slightly pointy frontstrap.
The only thing that I mind about the grip is the lack of texture on the upper half of the grip. In definite need of Talon Grips... Thank you for watching!
I’ve had a Shield40 as my EDC for years. Put some mag guts in. Never found a good reason to change. The slide release issue? It doesn’t get better. At least mine hasn’t.
I have the Shield .40 Gen One I bought new in 2014, and it is still in my EDC rotation. I love the gun, and I am a .40 S&W fanboy, so it is a win-win for me.
Awesome guys! Love my 3.1 40 S&W Shield but I absolutely adore my 4” M&P 40 Shield with a TR-Enabling 4.25” extended and ported 357 Sig barrel. With MagGuts spring I have 8+1 rounds of over 600 ft/lbs of energy. I personally like the rubber sleeve that makes it ultra comfortable in the hand and absorbs felt recoil.
I turned my Shield 40 into a 357sig with TR Enabling 357sig 3.1 inch barrel and never changed it back...now I have a 357 shield..a REAL powerhouse and lighter to carry than the 40
@@kevinrichardson8859 TR-Enabling has an extended and ported on the tip of extended portion of barrel with OAL of 3.35”. Little extra velocity and less muzzle flip. Just a sweet backup. I carry the 4” 357 Shield as my main and 3.1 backup both in 357 Sig and the one additional mag I carry works for either platform.
@TransformersHoarder yes 357sig is AMAZING round..I don't do ported barrels on guns ESPECIALLY high pressure rounds..and carry...don't want all that BLAST and powder shooting upwards in the area of my face or eyes..especially if firing from a retention position...want all the muzzle blast and unburnt powder going DIRECTLY towards my target!
I've had my Shield plus with holosun 407k since right after launch. Going on 3000 rounds. My trigger is perfectly smooth, pulls in the low 4s everytime. My only quality control issue was my front sight came installed backwards. Been perfect and 100% reliable since fixing that. Youre trigger is messed up, smith would help you with that.
Stay tuned. More to come regarding my journey with the Shield. Thank you for watching!
I have the shield plus
I bought the CSX instead and ignored the criticism. It is by far my favorite carry gun besides my model 60-14.
CSX is a great gun
Interesting. I tried to like the CSX in spite of what I heard. Just not for me. Thanks for watching!
I was sure that I clicked on the M&P video but rather got just another Glock comparison video.
Not The intent was to show why the Shield was not going to replace my current carry gun. Thank you for stopping by.
I'm not quite 100 percent sold yet on the aftermarket magazines from Shield Arms and PSA. Some people are still apparently having a few issues with either brand. The Shield Arms brand magazines are now in their THIRD design variation. I believe that PSA has two different types for the Glock. I'd really like to get a couple of one or both brands. But, they're a little expensive. They need to be super reliable, before I trust them. My pistols are strictly for self defense, and must remain rock solid in reliability. Have yours been completely reliable ??
PSA mags run fine. Your just regurgitating what other people say online. I mean, you don’t even own them.
I have 3 Shield Arms mags for my Glock 48. Zero issues with them.
The trigger sold me, so I bought one. I got it used, so the slide release is okay.
Glad it's working for you. Thanks for watching.
The original shield was my first semi auto and I wasn't very accurate with it. When I moved out of one of the communist New England states that I was living in to the southeast and no longer was restricted by that state's magazine capacity laws, I purchased the shield plus and have found that I shoot it very good, much better than the original shield and it is my edc choice when I do carry a semi auto. I normally carry a snubbie revolver because of my lifestyle (I work from home and I am home or out and about in my neighborhood the majority of the time), but when out in public the shield plus is with me. I agree with you on the slide release it is very difficult to engage, that's probably the only complaint I have with it.
I recently acquired the Shield Performance Center. Stay tuned...
I've tried a bunch of these and that trigger is def out of spec i'd get in touch w/ S&W about it if u keep it, totally understand your reasons it's not for u , excellent review
Thank you very much for watching. I appreciate it.
Great review man!!! I enjoy my Shield Plus,and it was actually the first gun I ever owned myself.I really couldn’t be more happy with it,but that is just me.I can see why you like your Glock 48,because it is all decked out.I believe if you got the performance model of the Shield Plus you might like it more.I mean you are comparing it to your Glock that is ported,and has a modified trigger etc.That to me is not a fair comparison,if that Glock didn’t have all that,and was just stock like your Shield Plus.I think that would be a whole different discussion.I would like to see you get a performance model of the shield plus and compared to your Glock 48.That might be a whole different ballgame then,just saying.
I get what you’re saying about comparing them, but for me the comparison was as follows. I have two handguns in front of me that I can carry, I’ll take him to the range, shoot them and see which one I like better. It was not meant to be an apples to apples comparison. By the way, I just purchased the performance center version. Review in the works.
A good gunsmith or the factory could fix all your concerns. Keep it and train I have a 48 also , I would prefer the 45 sheild personally.
Right on. I like the 45 Shield.
Comparing a Glock with an aftermarket trigger, texturing, sights, magazine, porting, etc. (at least $1000 in mods I'd guess) to an out of the box Shield is the definition of Apples to Oranges. At least compare it to one of the Performance Center Shields. Same with comparing a 9mm micro pistol to a 380 micro pistol.
The only reason for showing them together was to make a point that I already had something that worked well for me so this Shield will not be replacing my every daycarry. That was the point. Thank you for stopping by.
Good comparison and reasons for your preference. I have both the G48 and the Shield Plus, but the Shield Plus can come with a manual safety. I added an extended manual safety to mine, so it's more 1911-like.
Set up. Thank you for stopping by.
I have several Glock 19s, but have never held a S&W striker-fired pistol. I found it interesting to compare your experience with the Shield Plus and your carry Glock, to hrfunk's experience with the Glock pistol and his S&W pistols. If interested, see his RUclips videos ``Why I Don't Prefer the Glock Pistol'' and ``Why I Prefer the S&W Pistol''.
Thanks for the tip. I do watch his videos so I’ll check out the ones you suggest. Cheers!
@@MDpolo You're welcome. For him, as in your case, it comes down to what he shoots best. Cheers!
I have tried Glock. That grip angle is goofy for me! I rented a 26 which handled like a wet bar of soap, resulting in accidental FTE. I chose a Shield plus, though it is a bit small for my hands. The trigger won me over.
@@DougMcDave Glad you found something that works for you.
@@DougMcDave yeah Gl💩ck is horrible. Bad grip angle, spongy trigger, plastic sights, ugly design, hasn't changed since the late 90's. M&P over it any day.
I believe your trigger group may not have been installed correctly
You need to readjust the trigger to stop the clicking. The trigger is not low enough so the trigger safety is rubbing.
Thank you. I appreciate that.
@@MDpolo Happened to me when I changed my trigger spring. When reassembling I did not push the trigger into the grip low enough and the safety was rubbing. Took it back apart. Pushed it down further and it's perfect
Support American made M&p all day babbyyy💪
That takeup needs to be fixed, it should not sound like that or have hang up before the wall
I agree! Thank you for watching.
Ergonomics are paramount.
Buy or Pass ?
Pass.
Thank you for your demonstration.
You are most welcome. Thank you for watching!
So you subjectively based your opinion of the out of the box Shield Plus on a ported Glock with an aftermarket trigger and mag release. Really? Compare it to a stock Glock with its spongy trigger and mag release that you can barely articulate out of the box. And porting thats a whole other story!
Perhaps I didn’t get my point across. It was only a comparison as to whether the shield would replace my Glock 48 as my daily carry. That’s what it was about. Would I like the shield enough to be my daily gun.
glock 19. end discussion
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