@@TheStapleGunKid He was. He was headed for the Ivy League as the son of famous illustrator Maud Humphrey, but got expelled from either Philips Exeter or Andover; I forget which. He enlisted. His famous lip paralysis was caused by an accident while he was a swabbie; the scarring can be seen in closeups of his face in The Caine Mutiny.
Yeah. You can't have it both ways. "You're responsible as officer of the deck" immediately followed by ""we can't be held responsible for something that's not our fault." It's really hard to follow someone like that.
I once worked for an individual like Captain Queeg - always has to be the best at everything, never wrong, would berate subordinates in public, and when he did screw up, it was everyone else fault.
leaders who are obsessed with the little things are typically incompetent with the big things. It's easy to tell people their uniforms are screwed up-much harder to actually run a ship
standing orders to the helmsman on my ships required announcing passing to the every 10 degree mark ... "passing 100 to the left .... passing 090 to the left" unless the CONN directed "belay your passings" ..... each 'passing' should be acknowledged by CONN or repeated until it is .... former commanding officer USCGC 621 and 724. Movie eludes to this when helm tries to advise Capt but does not follow the actual procedure which exists for JUST this reason . . .
And ... that is exactly how things like that happen. The enlisted man tries to warn the officer and the officer tells him to shut up - or else ... so the enlisted man obeys the officer and bad things happen. At least ... they didn't put two missiles into the bridge of an allied destroyer ... .
I was in the Navy for 11 years. Queeg was a terrible CO. He had no right to the loyalty of either the crew or officers. The crap that the lawyer spews at the end is exactly the kind of garbage a lawyer who has never been to sea would say.
Wow! Yes! I have technically been in the Navy, never did a day active duty, but have a few years of sea time as a merchant mariner, some as a Capt. I have seen people buy into that little speech at the end of this movie. But, Queeg proves a few times, he is not a decent captain. The cutting of the tow line, and turning away from the beach abandoning the men in the landing,craft shows it to me. And, he receives no loyalty and little respect because he does not earn or give respect. Lying about the tow line and running from the beach in fear are his worst offenses.
He had no right? He had every right - he was the ship's captain. I disagree with you, but if you hate this Queeg go read the book. Movie Queeg is mild compared to book Queeg. I think he drove a junior sailor to insanity and eventually suicide.
Oh, since you were in the Navy, maybe you can answer a question for me. why do Keefer and Queeg have different hats than Keith and Maryyk? I've wondered that for a while.
@@blusafe1 Hi! I finished the book last night. Stillwell, the sailor, went insane, but he recovered with therapy. According to a letter that Keith was writing to his girlfriend, Stillwell was recovering with light duty while stationed at a beach.
He was a great actor. Jose Ferrer (who was also great in this) said that MacMurray's was the best performance in the film, and that he never got his due as an actor.
It is funny that My Three Sons lasted twelve years. MacMurray held himself above TV actors but saw the easy money of TV. He was probably the least hard working star of any tv series before or since. His best dramatic performances in movies had already been done. But, boy were they good. He could be scary bad.
The gist of Greenwald's closing blast (he's not drunk enough to be impaired spitting it out) is that Queeg, and others like him, while not the best, had already been doing their jobs for years, while late arrivals like the Caine's officers had been civilians taking it easy (movie is set during the final stages of WW2). I don't know how much the Navy appreciated the intimation that ship's commanders, even for support vessels, were less than top-drawer people. They did insist, in return for their cooperation, that the disclaimer be added that no mutiny had ever occurred in the history of the Navy.
And even that was not strictly true. Look up the incident involving the mutiny attempt aboard the brig-of-war USS Somers, 1842, a.k.a. "The Somers Affair".
@@LordZontarIt was true....the mutiny aboard the USS Caine was a fake yet full-scale mutiny whereas the mutiny on the Somers was real yet incomplete because it wasn't executed. Here are the facts: The Mutiny was planned by Midshipman Phillip Spencer and several other crewmembers but before it could be excuted Lt Commander Slidell MacKenzie was told about it by a crewman who was loyal. He immediately had the plotters arrested, tried and executed by hanging. There was scandal because Spencer's father who was Secretary of the Navy alledged that MacKenzie had acted inappropriately by trying and hanging the plotters immediately rather than waiting until the Somers arrived back in the US and then could have had a court-martial by an impartial authority. MacKenzie argued successfully that the real number of plotters was unknown and that to wait until the Somers arrived back in the US for court-martial could have resulted in an actual mutiny. The Navy agreed with MacKenzie. He had a highly successful naval career and became one of the naval heroes of the Mexican-American War of 1846-1848. A good explanation of this incident is contained in the book Great Court-Martial Cases. Have a great day!
Yup, he had been in the Marines in WW2 (he was wounded at the battle of Saipan, got a Purple Heart...) and, in addition to playing a bit role in this movie, he acted as an unofficial technical advisor.
There's a funny scene later on when they're stripping the men down for a key. To mock the whole ordeal, he pretends to cover his chest like a woman and talks with a lisp. Then insinuates that he swallowed the Key and that they should look...somewhere else.
“Old Yellow-stain”, “Captain Strawberry”, “Towline Tom”, “Keyless Queeg”...so many monikers a crew could conjure up to amuse themselves cruising on the cursed U.S.S. Caine DMS 22.
My first CO and XO had lots of denigrating nicknames. My second CO only had to deal with Captain Ted, a great and popular guy, CO of the USS Cayuga LST 1186.
Watch Bogart's eyes throughout the film, particularly when he is on the witness stand. Director Edward Dmytryk featured Bogart predominantly in close-ups. Bogie acts with his eyes.
Queeg was paranoid. AND the difference between "paranoia" and "paranoid" is that one is a noun and the other is an adjective. Was that so hard to put in there?
I watched this as a boy and considering the father I had and the attitudes about men and how they were supposed to act back then I got a good size blister under my saddle from the abuse. If the men in this film cut the captain loose, if they were against him when he went loony and wasn't seeing things correctly after a while, I was on their side even after Jose Ferrar chastises them later. I've never joined another chain of command after the the Army, and being a commercial diver on oil rigs. I have no sympathy for a man who's so wrapped up in his own worth and words he can't see the world around him.
'The Caine Mutiny' would be the first feature role in Robert Francis's short four-film Hollywood career. He was killed when the private plane he was piloting crashed shortly after takeoff from Burbank Airport in California on July 31, 1955. Francis played 'Ensign Keith' in this 1954 movie.
What a great freakin movie. If this ever comes up on TCM, DO NOT MISS, great story, actors and direction. Highly underated, and any young movie geeks need to put on your list of top 100 movies to see before you die.🇺🇲.
That was clearly not a model. What was the real ship used in that scene? Was that just stock footage of a destroyer steaming in a circle, or were the movie makers able to get the Navy to put on a show for them?
The USS Caine was "played" by the Navy destroyer-minesweeper USS Thompson (DD-627/DMS-38), named in honor of Robert M Thompson. DD-627 provided close-in fire support on D-Day.
That movie is special to me because my dad talked about it. He was stationed at Pearl Harbor and they were filming the movie. He was in transportation and he got to take guys out to the ships.
The film is pretty good at demonstrating the difference between 'management and leadership.' Being a 'good' captain with a supportive and efficient crew requires talent. Not everyone in naval command is good at it. Honestly, most are mediocre at best. Often one encounters officers that are quite talented ...'at everything ACCEPT being great captains.'
During my time serving in the Navy I had two commanding officers, both on the same ship. One was great, a good leader and good at taking care of his crew. When the ship ran aground in San Francisco bay, he immediately stepped up and took responsibility. "My ship, my fault". (even though it wasn't actually his fault, but that's another story). The other one, his relief, was the direct opposite. More of a Queeg type, everything was someone else's fault. When he ripped a hole in the ships hull on a known obstruction off San Diego, he blamed others. (even though it was almost entirely his doing)
His actions were produced by PTSD, from having been in continuous combat for several years. The court martial tribunal recognized that, which is why they acquitted the officers who removed him from command.
That's hardly an excuse to be distracted by smaller things when you're in the middle of a target-towing exercise and then to lie about what really happened and shift the blame on your own men when it falls disastrously due to you being distracted.
The plot requires us to accept that the officers should have done more to support Queeg but his behavior suggests that such support wouldn't have worked.
@@None-zc5vg Not true. His XO, Maryk, tells the other officers after the yellow stain incident that "Queeg's a tired man, his nerves are shot. It's not surprising after what he's been through." Queeg was on the verge of a nervous breakdown and his paranoia was becoming serious. After the yellow stain incident Queeg summons his officers and in a roundabout if somewhat lame way asks them for help. They do nothing. Then, after Keefer continues to stir the pot against Queeg, his paranoia becomes very overwhelming. This is due to him believing that all the officers are in fact against him. It was very much a catch-22 situation but I will always believe that had the officers gotten behind him the whole "mutiny" would not have happened.
First saw this when I was in 12th grade ('77) , There was a class in school "The Art of Film". You read the book and watched the movie and discussed the differences. Too bad Columbia didn't want to make it three hours, a lot more of the book could have been added.
A target adrift in a Naval exercise zone is a hazard to navigation. Queeg would have been reprimanded big time for leaving it out there. Being last ship into port would just be a personal embarrassment. He would have to account for the target missing from inventory. So now way he could have evaded blame for such a screwup.
In the novel, Queeg gets summoned to ComServPac to explain his cutting of the towline. Captain Grace is not happy with Queeg's account of the incident where he lays the blame on his subordinates. Despite the Captain asking him to be straightforward, Queeg still manages to weasel his way of the interview by still claiming innocence and blaming the crew's inexperience for this mishap.
@@williamhaynes4800 On the LST where I did my duty, we often had Marine officers and NCOs standing watch in the pilothouse, strictly on a volunteer basis. Sometimes, off the coast of California, we had Coasties and DEA agemts standing watch.
Maybe naval WW2 historians would want to weigh in. What would cutting across a towline rate, in terms of actual formal discipline, during WW2? I am assuming that that, in itself, would not be enough to get a captain relieved from command.
In the book, when Queeg was confronted with this incident by his senior officer, he denied and said he should have recommended his own court martial if it were true.
I've had to work for Bosses and Supervisors just like this guy! They don't know the job, and you can't tell them ANYTHING! And their own Screw-ups are always some one else's fault!
If you get a chance read a true story called Halsey's Typhoon. In it there was a destroyer captain that was very similar. They did not mutiny but the ship was lost.
There's also a book titled The Arnheiter Affair, a true story about the USS Vance that occurred during the Viet Nam War. The CO was very much a Queeg-like character. Good read.
@@None-zc5vg I have never understood why Halsey was given that fifth star considering that typhoon and his actions during the battle of Leyte Gulf. I suspect that public relations had more to do with it than his actual performance. Not that he was a bad commander, but his judgement was, at times, questionable.
Another situation where the Fred McMurray character should have done something instead of just letting Captain Queeg cause a mishap. The McMurray character had the deck after all.
You're correct about that. As OOD he should have intervened. But Keifer wanted to see Queeg humiliate himself. Snapping a cable is not a real danger to a ship anyway.
Yes, and his role in African Queen was the oddest fit of all for him (and in my opinion, resulted in his worst performance). Now pardon me while i flee the country to evade the Bogey and African Queen fans.
in the book they made it clear that Queeg was suffering from the stress of being on convoy duty in the Atlantic but from what I remember of the movie, they basically focus on the bearing balls and the craziness.
Now hear this: All under my command will take full responsibility for their actions or inaction, whether success or failure. I, however, will take responsibility only for success, never for failure.
Well he was discharged 10 years before this movie, so he wasn't a marine at the time. But yeah he was one hell of a badass. He was wounded in combat multiple times.
@@TheStapleGunKid Well I meant during WW2, the setting for the film. Movie is set during the last stages, circa 1945. Marvin was in the final assault against Japan, if I'm correct.
See the film "Pickup on South Street" directed by Sam Fuller. You see a guy in uniform on the subway with the 1st's patch on his shoulder. Fuller was in the 1st.
@@steelers6titles Wasn't that a great film? Fuller did a lot with his low budgets. Pickup on South Street is an outstanding film noir. Wasn't Lee Marvin wounded on Saipan? Or maybe Iwo?
A cable scraping along the bottom of the ship and snapping. Yeaaah that's not going to cause damage at all! Faulty equipment eh Captain? Pull the other one!
standing orders to the helmsman on my ships required announcing passing to the every 10 degree mark ... "passing 100 to the left .... passing 090 to the left" unless the CONN directed "belay your passings" ..... each 'passing' should be acknowledged by CONN or repeated until it is .... former commanding officer USCGC 621 and 724. Movie eludes to this when helm tries to advise Capt but does not follow the actual procedure which exists for JUST this reason . . .
I understand Queeg have PTSD and he have to enforce discipline on the ship somehow but he too focus on minor detail, ignore his officer discontent, actively alienating the crew from him, hiding mistake and show of presumably cowardice in the face of enemy definitely end him. Greenwald maybe right in saying that Queeg could have done better had others officers back him up but let be honest, Queeg doesn't inspire loyalty or confidence, not even fear in order to keep his men in line. The only thing that kept Queeg in command till the storm was Maryk sense of professionalism.
Why can't the whole Movie be on here? They always block a lot of the great classics, like they want to deny People seeing them. Last time I saw this Movie was almost 40 Years ago on TV, while I was getting gloriously drunk on a Gallon of Homemade Wine that had finally stopped bubbling! Seriously, If these Movies are available, where and how? I want to see this, as well as " Destination Tokyo" "Yankee Doodle Dandy" and a number of others!!
The thing the movie tried to do but failed at was showing how incompetant Ens. Kieth was. The shirtail order was not meant to be nitpicking, it was supposed to be an easy order for a junior officer to carry out. Yes, quieg is a bad officer who has mental issues, but if he had competant officers capable of carrying out the easiest of orders, maybe he would have done his job a little bit easier. Dont forget, The XO agreed with everything Quieg was doing....right up until the night of the storm.
While Queeg was right to reprimand Keith for that sailor's untucked shirttail, he could've done that after the towing exercise was completed and not when the ship was steaming in a circle, which left the valuable target they were towing to be left dangerously adrift. Also, it was established that Keith already gave orders to the crew to have their shirttails tucked in. Wasn't his fault Horrible happened to leave it untucked outside his trousers because of a heat rash.
"best overacting performance of the year" Not his fault though. It's the way Hollywood wrote, directed and shot movies during this period. Would be great to see Bogart right now. He'd blow the pants off of the rest of Hollywood's most cherished darlings (De Niro, Phoenix, DiCaprio). I'm sparing Pacino on that list, simply because of his first few movies.
The Royal Navy has had plenty of mutinies in its history, Spithead, the Bounty, HMS Hermione to name three. They've been around a lot longer so naturally, they experienced just about every situation that can happen with shipboard life, death and all in between.
@@chrismc410 The Hermione was a really interesting one. The mutiny happened there because the captain was a sadistic lunatic. A million times worse than Queeg. I wish someone would make a movie about that.
This scene demonstrates how unfit Queeg is to command. He has the conn and pays no attention to his ship's maneuvering. And, he lies. His critical path thinking is terrible. If he wants uniforms worn right, fine, but there is a time and place to address it. When you have the conn, that is not the time.
As conning officer as a lowly BM3 on an LST, believe me, shirttails were not even a consideration, especially because the uniform of the day at sea was white T-shirts and tan combat swimmers's shorts.
Queeg is not a full-blown schizophrenic, although he has paranoid tendencies. He is an honorable man. His problem is that, as a commander, he cannot prioritize. The nation is at war. He is preoccupied with shirtttails while his ship steams in a circle and cuts across a towline. He cannot recognize importance. In trying to enforce discipline, he seriously erodes his own authority, in reality.
@@TheStapleGunKid But does he deliberately lie, or simply offer his own versions of events, refusing to acknowledge anything which might contradict them?
@@steelers6titles No he deliberately lies. Literally everyone on the entire ship knew the Caine steamed over their own tow cable, but Queeg still lied about it, not just to his crew, but also to his superiors in an official report. That alone should have gotten him relieved of command.
@@embossed64 The last scene in the movie is awful and wrong. If they supported him they would probably all be dead. That “lawyer” was a by-the-book idiot and anyone who believed that last scene is to.
@@sirboomsalot4902Barnie's opinion was that if the officers had tried a little harder to work with Queeg, perhaps a) he wouldn't have cracked up and b) he would have been a bit more willing to listen to their advice.
![[#2024MAMA] G-DRAGON - 무제(Untitled, 2014)+POWER+HOME SWEET HOME+뱅뱅뱅+FANTASTIC BABY | Mnet 241123 방송](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Ox29z5Nf1Uk/mqdefault.jpg)
"Do you have any explanation for the appearance of this sailor?"
"It's Claude Akins, Sir. He looks that way all the time."
I was thinking of the exact same thing!
And then he became Sheriff Lobo.
😄🤣😂
😄 And he like a good punch up 😄
Looked good in the AAMCO commercials.
One of Bogart's finest performances, especially during the courtroom scene.
It probably helped that Bogart himself was a navy veteran.
@@TheStapleGunKid He was. He was headed for the Ivy League as the son of famous illustrator Maud Humphrey, but got expelled from either Philips Exeter or Andover; I forget which. He enlisted. His famous lip paralysis was caused by an accident while he was a swabbie; the scarring can be seen in closeups of his face in The Caine Mutiny.
He acts with his eyes; they are the key to his inner (serious) issues.
@@steelers6titleshe is such a great actor a shame he died young. Great movie. Casablanca is still my favorite movie.
My favorite movie is The Treasure of the Sierra Madre .@@carycimino7699
Yeah. You can't have it both ways. "You're responsible as officer of the deck" immediately followed by ""we can't be held responsible for something that's not our fault."
It's really hard to follow someone like that.
By "own fault", Queeg means "his fault".
I once worked for an individual like Captain Queeg - always has to be the best at everything, never wrong, would berate subordinates in public, and when he did screw up, it was everyone else fault.
You worked in the White House?
Exactly. He is a toxic leader.
I had a manager like that...
I had a boss in the civilian world just like that.
else's*
Doesn't matter how good you are when you start becoming obsessed with the little things you're going to miss the big things
leaders who are obsessed with the little things are typically incompetent with the big things. It's easy to tell people their uniforms are screwed up-much harder to actually run a ship
Claud Akin, Lee Marvin, Fred McMurray, Van Johnson, James Best, Bogey and a few others. "Great flick, great frickin' flick."
"One more word and you're on report!" How blameless can you get? And he lied in the court-martial when Greenwald questioned him about it.
Some smart guy made a duplicate of the tow rack and then threw it in the water. Probably the same guy that stole the strawberries.
That's where YOU got them
Some bright boy
It's funny cause it's true😂😂😂
🗿
No it was the same chow hound who stole the 5 pounds of cheese..
I had no idea Bogart was this good. Powerful, amazing acting.
A great performance by Bogart, a great film and a great novel by Herman Wouk. Bogart is completely convincing in his portrayal of Captain Queeg.
Agreed , Nobody could have done a better interpretation !
It is indeed a superb novel, one of the very best I’ve read.
Movie kinda did only half justice to the novel. Wish someday a remake would include the whole content.
Totally believable. Immersive. These are extremely rare qualities in today's actors.
@@TellenJones When I read Wouk’s novel, I was surprised how much more the author added on post Court-martial chapters.
Helmsman should have shouted, "ORDERS TO THE HELM!!!"
standing orders to the helmsman on my ships required announcing passing to the every 10 degree mark ... "passing 100 to the left .... passing 090 to the left" unless the CONN directed "belay your passings" ..... each 'passing' should be acknowledged by CONN or repeated until it is .... former commanding officer USCGC 621 and 724. Movie eludes to this when helm tries to advise Capt but does not follow the actual procedure which exists for JUST this reason . . .
And ... that is exactly how things like that happen. The enlisted man tries to warn the officer and the officer tells him to shut up - or else ... so the enlisted man obeys the officer and bad things happen. At least ... they didn't put two missiles into the bridge of an allied destroyer ...
.
I think nowadays that is called "malicious compliance."
Bogart was born to play Queeg!! Flawless acting!!
I was in the Navy for 11 years. Queeg was a terrible CO. He had no right to the loyalty of either the crew or officers. The crap that the lawyer spews at the end is exactly the kind of garbage a lawyer who has never been to sea would say.
Wow! Yes!
I have technically been in the Navy, never did a day active duty, but have a few years of sea time as a merchant mariner, some as a Capt. I have seen people buy into that little speech at the end of this movie. But, Queeg proves a few times, he is not a decent captain. The cutting of the tow line, and turning away from the beach abandoning the men in the landing,craft shows it to me. And, he receives no loyalty and little respect because he does not earn or give respect. Lying about the tow line and running from the beach in fear are his worst offenses.
I agree with you.
He had no right? He had every right - he was the ship's captain. I disagree with you, but if you hate this Queeg go read the book. Movie Queeg is mild compared to book Queeg. I think he drove a junior sailor to insanity and eventually suicide.
Oh, since you were in the Navy, maybe you can answer a question for me. why do Keefer and Queeg have different hats than Keith and Maryyk? I've wondered that for a while.
@@blusafe1 Hi! I finished the book last night. Stillwell, the sailor, went insane, but he recovered with therapy. According to a letter that Keith was writing to his girlfriend, Stillwell was recovering with light duty while stationed at a beach.
MacMurray could play bad so good when he wanted to.
He was a great actor. Jose Ferrer (who was also great in this) said that MacMurray's was the best performance in the film, and that he never got his due as an actor.
Yes, like Double Indemnity and The Apartment. He was wasted in nice guy roles.
It is funny that My Three Sons lasted twelve years. MacMurray held himself above TV actors but saw the easy money of TV. He was probably the least hard working star of any tv series before or since. His best dramatic performances in movies had already been done. But, boy were they good. He could be scary bad.
@@kurtdanielson993 He certainly never carried the show. The boys and Bub did. He may have appeared in more shows as the years progressed.
@@kurtdanielson993 Andy Griffith could be scary bad too in the few roles where he played the heavy.
The gist of Greenwald's closing blast (he's not drunk enough to be impaired spitting it out) is that Queeg, and others like him, while not the best, had already been doing their jobs for years, while late arrivals like the Caine's officers had been civilians taking it easy (movie is set during the final stages of WW2). I don't know how much the Navy appreciated the intimation that ship's commanders, even for support vessels, were less than top-drawer people. They did insist, in return for their cooperation, that the disclaimer be added that no mutiny had ever occurred in the history of the Navy.
And even that was not strictly true. Look up the incident involving the mutiny attempt aboard the brig-of-war USS Somers, 1842, a.k.a. "The Somers Affair".
@@LordZontarIt was true....the mutiny aboard the USS Caine was a fake yet full-scale mutiny whereas the mutiny on the Somers was real yet incomplete because it wasn't executed. Here are the facts: The Mutiny was planned by Midshipman Phillip Spencer and several other crewmembers but before it could be excuted Lt Commander Slidell MacKenzie was told about it by a crewman who was loyal. He immediately had the plotters arrested, tried and executed by hanging. There was scandal because Spencer's father who was Secretary of the Navy alledged that MacKenzie had acted inappropriately by trying and hanging the plotters immediately rather than waiting until the Somers arrived back in the US and then could have had a court-martial by an impartial authority. MacKenzie argued successfully that the real number of plotters was unknown and that to wait until the Somers arrived back in the US for court-martial could have resulted in an actual mutiny. The Navy agreed with MacKenzie. He had a highly successful naval career and became one of the naval heroes of the Mexican-American War of 1846-1848. A good explanation of this incident is contained in the book Great Court-Martial Cases. Have a great day!
Was that Lee Marvin??
Yeap
Yup, he had been in the Marines in WW2 (he was wounded at the battle of Saipan, got a Purple Heart...) and, in addition to playing a bit role in this movie, he acted as an unofficial technical advisor.
This movie (and Lee Marvin "make way, lady with a baby") is the 1 degree of seperation between Bogie and Chuck Norris. True fact there.
There's a funny scene later on when they're stripping the men down for a key. To mock the whole ordeal, he pretends to cover his chest like a woman and talks with a lisp. Then insinuates that he swallowed the Key and that they should look...somewhere else.
And Claude Akins, caught with his shirt tails out.
“Old Yellow-stain”, “Captain Strawberry”, “Towline Tom”, “Keyless Queeg”...so many monikers a crew could conjure up to amuse themselves cruising on the cursed U.S.S. Caine DMS 22.
"Marbles Mike", "Shirttail Sam", "Typhoon Tim", "Perjury Pete", etc.
Bet he had a yellow stain on his pants during the typhoon.
Darryl "Strawberries" Strawberry!
My first CO and XO had lots of denigrating nicknames. My second CO only had to deal with Captain Ted, a great and popular guy, CO of the USS Cayuga LST 1186.
A) Why this man's shirt was hanging out. B) Why you failed so miserably to carry out my orders. And C) Your favorite ice cream and why.
Watch Bogart's eyes throughout the film, particularly when he is on the witness stand. Director Edward Dmytryk featured Bogart predominantly in close-ups. Bogie acts with his eyes.
Queeg was paranoid. AND the difference between "paranoia" and "paranoid" is that one is a noun and the other is an adjective. Was that so hard to put in there?
Fine acting. Bogart at his best in "crazy" mode.
He did a good crazy. In Tesoro de la Sierra Madre he goes full psycho and does it so well.
@@mchav1983 We don't need no stinking commissions!
I watched this as a boy and considering the father I had and the attitudes about men and how they were supposed to act back then I got a good size blister under my saddle from the abuse. If the men in this film cut the captain loose, if they were against him when he went loony and wasn't seeing things correctly after a while, I was on their side even after Jose Ferrar chastises them later.
I've never joined another chain of command after the the Army, and being a commercial diver on oil rigs. I have no sympathy for a man who's so wrapped up in his own worth and words he can't see the world around him.
The seaman is Claude Akins, in an early appearance.
One more strawberry out of you and you'll be strawberried for disrespecting a Senior Strawberry!
Strawberry lives matter! 😉
The whole time I was a kid, "Strawberries" was the code name for insane or mentally ill!
'The Caine Mutiny' would be the first feature role in Robert Francis's short four-film Hollywood career. He was killed when the private plane he was piloting crashed shortly after takeoff from Burbank Airport in California on July 31, 1955. Francis played 'Ensign Keith' in this 1954 movie.
What a great freakin movie. If this ever comes up on TCM, DO NOT MISS, great story, actors and direction. Highly underated, and any young movie geeks need to put on your list of top 100 movies to see before you die.🇺🇲.
That was clearly not a model. What was the real ship used in that scene? Was that just stock footage of a destroyer steaming in a circle, or were the movie makers able to get the Navy to put on a show for them?
@freebeerfordworkers Good point. I still wonder what the ship was though.
@@odysseusrex5908 see wiki. the navy approved this movie and helped with ships, planes ect. 2 U S navy ships were used for representing the Caine.
The USS Caine was "played" by the Navy destroyer-minesweeper USS Thompson (DD-627/DMS-38), named in honor of Robert M Thompson. DD-627 provided close-in fire support on D-Day.
@@anexpertateverything4816 Ah, thank you very much.
@ LOL!!
That movie is special to me because my dad talked about it. He was stationed at Pearl Harbor and they were filming the movie. He was in transportation and he got to take guys out to the ships.
eccellent Movie I'm finally reading the book, it won the Pulitzer Prize for Literature in 1952, It's well deserved
The film is pretty good at demonstrating the difference between 'management and leadership.' Being a 'good' captain with a supportive and efficient crew requires talent. Not everyone in naval command is good at it. Honestly, most are mediocre at best. Often one encounters officers that are quite talented ...'at everything ACCEPT being great captains.'
Same thing in the army. Especially in infantry. Guys are more eager to work hard for leaders they respect.
During my time serving in the Navy I had two commanding officers, both on the same ship. One was great, a good leader and good at taking care of his crew. When the ship ran aground in San Francisco bay, he immediately stepped up and took responsibility. "My ship, my fault". (even though it wasn't actually his fault, but that's another story). The other one, his relief, was the direct opposite. More of a Queeg type, everything was someone else's fault. When he ripped a hole in the ships hull on a known obstruction off San Diego, he blamed others. (even though it was almost entirely his doing)
His actions were produced by PTSD, from having been in continuous combat for several years. The court martial tribunal recognized that, which is why they acquitted the officers who removed him from command.
That's hardly an excuse to be distracted by smaller things when you're in the middle of a target-towing exercise and then to lie about what really happened and shift the blame on your own men when it falls disastrously due to you being distracted.
The plot requires us to accept that the officers should have done more to support Queeg but his behavior suggests that such support wouldn't have worked.
@@None-zc5vg Exactly. And after the beach storming incident ("yellow stain"), what kind of support could anyone have given him?
@@None-zc5vg Not true. His XO, Maryk, tells the other officers after the yellow stain incident that "Queeg's a tired man, his nerves are shot. It's not surprising after what he's been through." Queeg was on the verge of a nervous breakdown and his paranoia was becoming serious. After the yellow stain incident Queeg summons his officers and in a roundabout if somewhat lame way asks them for help. They do nothing. Then, after Keefer continues to stir the pot against Queeg, his paranoia becomes very overwhelming. This is due to him believing that all the officers are in fact against him. It was very much a catch-22 situation but I will always believe that had the officers gotten behind him the whole "mutiny" would not have happened.
I purchased the dvd and gave it as a gift.
When your commanding officer has that look in his eye and that tone in his voice, you just shut up and take it. There is nothing else to do.
First saw this when I was in 12th grade ('77) , There was a class in school "The Art of Film". You read the book and watched the movie and discussed the differences. Too bad Columbia didn't want to make it three hours, a lot more of the book could have been added.
A target adrift in a Naval exercise zone is a hazard to navigation. Queeg would have been reprimanded big time for leaving it out there. Being last ship into port would just be a personal embarrassment. He would have to account for the target missing from inventory. So now way he could have evaded blame for such a screwup.
In the novel, Queeg gets summoned to ComServPac to explain his cutting of the towline. Captain Grace is not happy with Queeg's account of the incident where he lays the blame on his subordinates. Despite the Captain asking him to be straightforward, Queeg still manages to weasel his way of the interview by still claiming innocence and blaming the crew's inexperience for this mishap.
Unfortunately, I know someone I work with that acts exactly like Queeg. He is never at fault, everyone else screws up. 🙄
Try working with doctors
Claude Akins is called a Corporal - no Corporals in the Navy.
Not corporal - Horrible.
@@williamhaynes4800 On the LST where I did my duty, we often had Marine officers and NCOs standing watch in the pilothouse, strictly on a volunteer basis. Sometimes, off the coast of California, we had Coasties and DEA agemts standing watch.
Maybe naval WW2 historians would want to weigh in. What would cutting across a towline rate, in terms of actual formal discipline, during WW2? I am assuming that that, in itself, would not be enough to get a captain relieved from command.
@@WilliamSmith-vo8zu thx.
In the book, when Queeg was confronted with this incident by his senior officer, he denied and said he should have recommended his own court martial if it were true.
The key to the locker And the stawberries were on the towline.......Zing !
If you think this scene is terrific, be advised that the book is even better.
I've had to work for Bosses and Supervisors just like this guy!
They don't know the job, and you can't tell them ANYTHING!
And their own Screw-ups are always some one else's fault!
That's why I'm leaving my job in October (doing Social Security) - my old manager was Captain DeVriess and the new one is Queeg.
I had a real winner ! Never an even break 🙄🇺🇸
@@warrenhoffman2006Thank You for your Civilian Federal Service with SSA despite dealing with BAD Management.
If you get a chance read a true story called Halsey's Typhoon. In it there was a destroyer captain that was very similar. They did not mutiny but the ship was lost.
There's also a book titled The Arnheiter Affair, a true story about the USS Vance that occurred during the Viet Nam War. The CO was very much a Queeg-like character. Good read.
Halsey himself got away with it after not changing fleet course.
@@None-zc5vg I have never understood why Halsey was given that fifth star considering that typhoon and his actions during the battle of Leyte Gulf. I suspect that public relations had more to do with it than his actual performance. Not that he was a bad commander, but his judgement was, at times, questionable.
Another situation where the Fred McMurray character should have done something instead of just letting Captain Queeg cause a mishap. The McMurray character had the deck after all.
You're correct about that. As OOD he should have intervened. But Keifer wanted to see Queeg humiliate himself. Snapping a cable is not a real danger to a ship anyway.
@@douglaslally156 Maybe, maybe not...running over a cable like that could damage the screws pretty bad.
Except the captain had him tied up over a uniform infraction.
He was too busy thinking about the next chapter in his novel.
Bogart’s best roll, paranoid crazy was his ace in the hole, romantic leading man was always a odd fit for me.
Yes, and his role in African Queen was the oddest fit of all for him (and in my opinion, resulted in his worst performance).
Now pardon me while i flee the country to evade the Bogey and African Queen fans.
Man, Bogart was good.
"Who said we cut across our own Towline?"
in the book they made it clear that Queeg was suffering from the stress of being on convoy duty in the Atlantic but from what I remember of the movie, they basically focus on the bearing balls and the craziness.
Fantastic movie.
So the executive officer didn't realize the ship was making a big circle?
Now hear this: All under my command will take full responsibility for their actions or inaction, whether success or failure. I, however, will take responsibility only for success, never for failure.
James Funk - you just described perfectly a supervisor I had in the military years ago.
All great performances.
I thought Bogart was long dead, cuz I've been working for this guy
Scene also features a young Lee Marvin as "Meatball". In real life at the time, Marvin was a tough Marine, not a swabbie lol. The Big Red One.
Well he was discharged 10 years before this movie, so he wasn't a marine at the time. But yeah he was one hell of a badass. He was wounded in combat multiple times.
@@TheStapleGunKid Well I meant during WW2, the setting for the film. Movie is set during the last stages, circa 1945. Marvin was in the final assault against Japan, if I'm correct.
See the film "Pickup on South Street" directed by Sam Fuller. You see a guy in uniform on the subway with the 1st's patch on his shoulder. Fuller was in the 1st.
@@lawrencelewis2592 Right. The young fiction writer in "The Big Red One" is based on himself.
@@steelers6titles Wasn't that a great film? Fuller did a lot with his low budgets. Pickup on South Street is an outstanding film noir. Wasn't Lee Marvin wounded on Saipan? Or maybe Iwo?
What a great movie
A cable scraping along the bottom of the ship and snapping. Yeaaah that's not going to cause damage at all! Faulty equipment eh Captain? Pull the other one!
One more word out of you and no more strawberries and novel writing.
Faulty cable, no more, no less!
lol you can tell who didn't watch the actual entire movie or read the book
Queeg isn't the problem, folks.
Notice that the ship is turning but the shadows don't shift with the turn.
The things people notice SMH
Must have been 12:00 noon, local time.
Yes Sir Mr President anything you say!
They don't make them like this anymore in Hollywood.
He said we are heading back and should have headed back
The helmsman should have persisted
standing orders to the helmsman on my ships required announcing passing to the every 10 degree mark ... "passing 100 to the left .... passing 090 to the left" unless the CONN directed "belay your passings" ..... each 'passing' should be acknowledged by CONN or repeated until it is .... former commanding officer USCGC 621 and 724. Movie eludes to this when helm tries to advise Capt but does not follow the actual procedure which exists for JUST this reason . . .
Look at those gobs
Doin' their jobs
Keepin' the sea lanes free
I understand Queeg have PTSD and he have to enforce discipline on the ship somehow but he too focus on minor detail, ignore his officer discontent, actively alienating the crew from him, hiding mistake and show of presumably cowardice in the face of enemy definitely end him. Greenwald maybe right in saying that Queeg could have done better had others officers back him up but let be honest, Queeg doesn't inspire loyalty or confidence, not even fear in order to keep his men in line. The only thing that kept Queeg in command till the storm was Maryk sense of professionalism.
Hollywood films in those days portrayed characters, and there were brigade of actors and actresses full of characters.
And amazingly had actual dialogue.
Movie ends with Queeg's career presumably over, but leaves open the question of whether he himself would be charged with any offenses.
Near the end of the novel, Queeg got reassigned to a naval supply depot in Iowa. A move that signalled the end of his naval career.
@@BillyButcher90 OK, thanks.
Forgot Lee Marvin and Claude Akins were in this movie
Why can't the whole Movie be on here? They always block a lot of the great classics, like they want to deny People seeing them. Last time I saw this Movie was almost 40 Years ago on TV, while I was getting gloriously drunk on a
Gallon of Homemade Wine that had finally stopped bubbling! Seriously, If these Movies are available, where and how? I want to see this, as well as " Destination Tokyo" "Yankee Doodle Dandy" and a number of others!!
The thing the movie tried to do but failed at was showing how incompetant Ens. Kieth was. The shirtail order was not meant to be nitpicking, it was supposed to be an easy order for a junior officer to carry out. Yes, quieg is a bad officer who has mental issues, but if he had competant officers capable of carrying out the easiest of orders, maybe he would have done his job a little bit easier. Dont forget, The XO agreed with everything Quieg was doing....right up until the night of the storm.
That's what happens when the former Captain, DeVriess, cuts the crew a lot of slack.
While Queeg was right to reprimand Keith for that sailor's untucked shirttail, he could've done that after the towing exercise was completed and not when the ship was steaming in a circle, which left the valuable target they were towing to be left dangerously adrift.
Also, it was established that Keith already gave orders to the crew to have their shirttails tucked in. Wasn't his fault Horrible happened to leave it untucked outside his trousers because of a heat rash.
"best overacting performance of the year" Not his fault though. It's the way Hollywood wrote, directed and shot movies during this period. Would be great to see Bogart right now. He'd blow the pants off of the rest of Hollywood's most cherished darlings (De Niro, Phoenix, DiCaprio). I'm sparing Pacino on that list, simply because of his first few movies.
An american officer remarked
There hasn't been a mutiny in the
Us navy ever
Maybe the royal navy had one
Spit head?
Mutiny on the Bounty was based on a real case. Captain Bligh and Fletcher Christian were real people.
The Royal Navy has had plenty of mutinies in its history, Spithead, the Bounty, HMS Hermione to name three.
They've been around a lot longer so naturally, they experienced just about every situation that can happen with shipboard life, death and all in between.
@@chrismc410 The Hermione was a really interesting one. The mutiny happened there because the captain was a sadistic lunatic. A million times worse than Queeg. I wish someone would make a movie about that.
@@TheStapleGunKid Bligh was a bit like queeg in some instnaces like the strawberries scene
@@glen7318 There was food theft aboard HMS Bounty, if I'm correct.
isso é uma obra de ficção tem que ser vista e não guardada pra quê?
porquê não libera essa joça pra assistir
Also shows how scared the bridge crew was that no one did anything. Queeg was chewing out the only guys who wouldve lol
I blame Margaret Thatcher for the cut towline
Yeah, those tories are usually to blame.
This scene demonstrates how unfit Queeg is to command. He has the conn and pays no attention to his ship's maneuvering. And, he lies. His critical path thinking is terrible. If he wants uniforms worn right, fine, but there is a time and place to address it. When you have the conn, that is not the time.
As conning officer as a lowly BM3 on an LST, believe me, shirttails were not even a consideration, especially because the uniform of the day at sea was white T-shirts and tan combat swimmers's shorts.
He's a hypocrite!
He'll get on people's cases for a shirt tail but he'll lie his *ss off when he does something stupid.
Queeg is not a full-blown schizophrenic, although he has paranoid tendencies. He is an honorable man. His problem is that, as a commander, he cannot prioritize. The nation is at war. He is preoccupied with shirtttails while his ship steams in a circle and cuts across a towline. He cannot recognize importance. In trying to enforce discipline, he seriously erodes his own authority, in reality.
Well I wouldn't call him "honorable" when he routinely lies about and covers up his mistakes.
@@TheStapleGunKid Well, I would agree. Greenwald sticks up for him in the end, after the fact.
@@TheStapleGunKid But does he deliberately lie, or simply offer his own versions of events, refusing to acknowledge anything which might contradict them?
If there was a remake or miniseries maybe Adrian Monk could be cast as the Captain.
@@steelers6titles No he deliberately lies. Literally everyone on the entire ship knew the Caine steamed over their own tow cable, but Queeg still lied about it, not just to his crew, but also to his superiors in an official report. That alone should have gotten him relieved of command.
Big movie
Captain Donald Chump, blaming everybody else.
Strawberries anyone?
Hit your head did you.
Captain sleepy Joe Hiden: Blaming the cut tow cable on Russian disinformation.
The mainstream media: We’ll go with that.
I was just thinking about Chump when I saw the bit about the strawberries.
I am always surprised at the level of inbreeding allowed in the Democratic Party.
People
that raft was a prop from another movie
mantap filmnya
If only his disloyal officers had supported Captain Queeg.
They could have enabled him into a genuine disaster.
@@dbergerac9632 You should watch the last scene of the movie.
@@embossed64 The last scene in the movie is awful and wrong. If they supported him they would probably all be dead. That “lawyer” was a by-the-book idiot and anyone who believed that last scene is to.
@@sirboomsalot4902Barnie's opinion was that if the officers had tried a little harder to work with Queeg, perhaps a) he wouldn't have cracked up and b) he would have been a bit more willing to listen to their advice.
@@therealrvasinger241 I dont think so
Coved-19
Has pretty much nothing to do with this scene.
Hoax