As a mechanical engineer specialized in production management and industrialization, I was impressed with the production process of these units. It is great to see design and manufacturing integrated in a single process. This besides the great solution for living space, of course. Thank you for sharing; I had a great 20 minutes and a wide grin at the end!
My wife and I got really excited about these units. We live in the valley and need an office in the backyard for remote work. I called the Spark and Steel office to inquire about the SB1 unit and was told they are only currently making single family apartments at the moment. And they don’t sell the SB1 or SB2 as one-off units. They would only consider making them if multiple were ordered, like for a hospitality vendor. Feels very disingenuous to omit that detail from their website. What a shame.
Look into how wasteful these are and how inefficient in terms of thermal regulation. These container homes are just a fad for people who want to seem sustainable while in reality it is the complete opposite. Most of these containers have to be sourced new due to regulations and potential contamination from previous transports. And you have to spend a lot if you want it to be well insulated since metal is an incredibly inefficient material to use.
@@aeazfh1800 Long ago I went through the disillusionment phase of shipping containers as a building solution. I don't see them as sustainable save-the-earth options that everyone should clearly flock to. Rather, I like them for their durability and relatively low-maintenance qualities. This isn't true in all environments of course, but in the dry climate of Arizona, the corten steel material has a lot going for it. They need to be spray foam insulated to counteract the thermal bridging, and studded out in order to finish the interior walls. I fully recognize this is more costly and labor intensive than batted insulation in traditional stick frame construction. But once those are done, the structure could last without any major rework to the exterior for a lifetime or longer. I'd be hard pressed to find anything with that longevity outside of block construction, which still requires re-coating of the exterior every 15-20 years. And, this is highly subjective, I like the aesthetics of the rust patina.
@ Ah i see, maybe so but the need for spray foam insulation in any type of building is in my opinion something to avoid. Although i will say i am also a fan of the textures that come from rust, but nothing beats the aesthetics of natural earth building (to me). anyways, good luck with your office build.
there main advantage is no permits. No build time. Living space in yard or as a cabin. 1 day. Move in. As far as office space it's got to be cost effective. He obviously can't just bang them out Henry Ford style yet. I think he's brilliant. The video shows skill innovation and incredible knowledge. I'm very impressed
@@1Craigsworld I'm now looking at a company called "Mini-o" which makes a 10x16ft unit that can also be prefabricated and dropped in a backyard. They even offer a solar package and AC so permits can be avoided. That unit, which is comparable to the SB1, will be in the range of $50k with install included. That's $20k cheaper than the SB1, which doesn't include install. I agree, I think the concept is cool and well executed. But Spark + Steel's refusal to build single units on-demand for people suggests that the economics just don't make sense for these. Even with all their automation, people still can't afford these at their current price point, so they are more akin to novelties that wealthy individuals can commission to build in batches. Otherwise they are unobtainable for most people. If they were forthcoming about this fact on their website, I'd be forgiving about this. To quote the Backstreet Boys, "Quit playing games with my heart"
With all that ~1500 gallons of water storage already included in the design/build .. I find it curious that they chose to not use any of that water for thermal storage from a air/water heat pump .. a ~90F (~50C) dT thermal storage of that much water could be storing over 300kwh of heat for winter , or cold for summer .. and it could also allow the heat pump to have a higher yearly average CoP harnessing heat during the day to use at night , or harnessing cold at night to use during the day.
@@paintedpony2935 what 'additional' cost is more aligned with the thought I posted about .. the design as shown in this video seems to already has the vast majority like around ~90% of the equipment , space , and costs of a water thermal storage system included in their ~1500 gallon existing design. They currently made the design choice to use 100% battery energy storage , and not use the ~1500 gallons for thermal storage .. It cost me ~$3,000 for my ~500 Gallon thermal storage , with my heat pump doing a ~90F/~50C dT swing , mine stores ~100kwh .. That's about ~$30 per kwh of thermal storage .. way way less expensive $/kwh than one can do with a battery based energy storage system .. their 'additional' cost would be less than what my total cost was , as their ~1500 gallon system already seems to include about ~90% of the parts , space, and cost of a water thermal storage system. I am not them .. Soo I can't tell you about what it cost for them to do something .. But , I do find it curious for them to go as far as they did with water storage , and then not go that last little bit further.
As RVers ourselves this is a really easy home that we could adapt to. We can see more traditionalists having challenges adapting but even the 8 gallon water heater is easily doable. This is a really solid design.
Many well converted vans are at least that price and much, much smaller. Prices are not what you expect but this unit is quite reasonably priced for what it is. There are cheaper options that may suit individual tastes better. It's a matter of preference.
I couldn't find the prices on the website...but given that you don't need plumbing and other sitework, that might make the final cost more competitive.
These are very cool! I bought land, had to sink a well, build a septic field, pay for power to reach the house, put in a triple wide manufacture home. This is such a great solution to the permits and all of the construction that’s involved. I love this.
Make sure your property is zoned for manufactured housing! Also zoned for a second dwelling if theres already a home there. Most residential properties are single family, meaning only one domicile allowed. Varies by state.
Even my small very Red, very NIMBY home city added ADUs to their city codes (the "standard" code is usually a third party product that many cities share so expect it to be the same in most places.) As long as your zoning is standard residential you can add an ADU -- but the restrictions are that you have to use the utilities from the main dwelling - it can't be larger than 50% of the size of the main house, and you cannot "rent" the unit out. (that last bit is the killer for most people - no AirB&Bs..) Note that its very hard to get permission to build a shop/barn.. but they made ADUs automatic.
I have a nephew that is in LOVE with the idea of living in "Slab City" in SoCal. Something like this would be perfect for that location. Although I would want to add some gear to recover any humidity inside to return to the water system. That would actually only take an internal dehumidifier fed into some form of filtration system, very doable!
I toured Slab City one day a few years ago in my motorhome. I was afraid to spend the night. Huge garbage piles and litter everywhere. Burnt out trailers. Seemed more like a lawless drug haven.
With many units marketed today, this appears a truly user freindly option than an ongrid small home, it does need a larger front living area for true comfort and the toilet may be the future option for add on small houses. Good Luck to the company.
I'm curious if they've thought to do rainwater collection off of the roof/solar panels or was it too much trouble and not enough surface area to supply the unit?
I love this from a manufacturing standpoint, this gets people into a home at a cheaper price vs building on site. I've been dreaming about building a container home for a long time, this is a process I can get behind for building container homes on a major scale. I love the innovation for the robotic arms, truly smart. If he finds enough business doing this, this can be a process to be seen around the country more if demand permits it, maybe even licensed as a chain if the process is stream lined enough. Definitely a cool build and setup.
Pricing per unit aside ( not cheap from what I read ), this is a solution amongst many. Its implementation cuts permitting timelines, is is zoned proof ( by construction build code ), which includes drop ins on industrially zoned land, trailer parks, or out in the sticks. I can see why the manufacturer is fitting his plant to scale up. It is good to see Kirsten and Husband are unbiased and agnostic. Good call.
This is no sh.t the future. Love this. Elegant solution for repurposing containers into homes. Really enjoyed this one Kirsten. Please moar! Best Regards and Best Wishes!
ok, we can be done with shipping container homes for a bit. especially when they aren't cheap despite that being the supposed key aspect. You're better off just making the same sized dwelling with wood for half the cost.
230,000 dollars for a unit.. I mean, i understand this is aimed for particular segment in the market and wanting to run a profit but holy shit can i do this much cheaper. Even factoring in decent tools for 50k you can do this for 25-40% their cost. ps; I have build sheds professionally that will last 50 years that cost 30-40k.
@@ekimeno3061 Then who is it for if not A) someone who wants to sublet a property, or B) someone who wants to get a small home quickly? Not even a handful of videos ago Kirsten went to New Hampshire to see that tiny home community that can put up a larger sq/ft 'tiny' home with less waste and far cheaper than this, and with more amenities.
the robot cutter reminded me of Patlabor *goodtimes, but the serialised coding system using 'PB' + 'J' is brilliant. Got to rewatch their stacked AZ dwellings again. That was patina goodness! ❤ Cheers from Melburn, Ozstralia
You can buy a tiny home/shed for $15k. Buy $10k worth of solar, $15k of batteries. The water storage and professional help is another $10k. Toilet could go compost, bio-bag, black water tank, mini-septic (especially if you're in a septic legal area) or some folks could DIY a trench to the main stack in their home. Hell, even add $10k for a sewer permit and you're still under $60k and some of those shed-houses look nicer than the "heat marked" metal this guy thinks is cool.
Also not including the cost of the land, lol. Still prob cheaper than hooking up to utilities. And much faster. And you won't really have much utilities. Wasn't clear to me though if they've incorporated a rain catchment system.
@@Nphen My guess is that the majority of that cost could be going to labor for non DIY'ers for the sake of convenience. idk. Still seems a bit overpriced even with labor.
@Nphen the price tags on those tiny houses are very deceptive, you can find many review of them; those sheds don't come with plumbing or electrical, among other things. With the solar and the tanks set up - that's a lot of money in parts and labor to hire a service for that separately. It's definitely a large price tag, but I don't think it's crazy overpriced, and the markup is due mostly to two things: 1 - it's a young company making at a small scale, and 2 - you pay for the speed convenience and lower stress of getting an all-in-one package.
This is way too much. They could have done it up so much better for a lower price point. I'm not at all a fan. Especially sandblasting it. I know its corten steel but still, who wants to bump into rust and mess your clothes up? no tilt on the solar panels, so they have all the dirt from standing water left behind ruining their efficiency.
@@car2069 I was wondering why the panels were so dirty - I guess they need to be flat since they don't know solar orientation of the destination? RE steel, I'd wager it's not even corten because they were painted containers. Beautiful patina but you'd probably have to seal it to prevent further rusting. Problematic in a non-arid environment.
30x 400W makes for some significant overkill in power production. Especially in Arizona! In fact it would likely also cover the power needs for the primary house that it was built behind.
nice little guest/pool house. not the best idea to live in something like this. whos this for though? seems so expensive to make, and it doesn't look better than a regular pool house.
Probably not great in a heavy snow area. Trying yo keep the panels clear would be a lot of work. Also in cold climate how do you keep all that water storage. Intake and graywater output from freezing. It's interesting for sure but not for everywhere in my opinion. It will be interesting to see if prices come down as production efficiencies increase.
That was so impressive. The vision, the engineering and manufacturing, and the most appealing of it all, the hands down approach from someone who knows 100% of their product, something 99% of CEO's know nothing about. I was super intrigued. A huge turn-off for me, as I went to their web-site, was the lack of pricing. I don't want to waste anybody's time. If this housing option is over $250,000, I am not even remotely interested. I can make it myself for way cheaper, but do I have the time or the drive to do it? I understand there are so many custom options. But come on, say something like the basic kit cost $$$ or something. I went from super hyped to super chilled. Anybody can build amazing stuff. For what price among us mortals?
They need these in North carolina. It's the perfect solution after having lost everything. Start transporting these things and people will be glad you did
Very interesting but I prefer outside air and outside visual. I would be interested to live in this if it had more windows. Didn’t see clothing storage either. Good start
I love this! Unfortunately, ridiculously, we have ordinances against container homes. They are not allowed in my city!! I don’t believe we can have ADUs either😩
In that last unit, I'd worry about condensate water leakage from the mini-split hanging above all those electrics. Maybe there was a catch pan under that AC unit that I missed?
The cost hurts, but to not have to deal with the county to get a quick permitted home out by Wickenberg is well worth that cost. They need to integrate rain capture systems as well.
My idea is to re use the shower and tub water to wash laundry. Yep grey tanks. After it washes laundry is good through another filter and then is use to water the garden, or flush a bio gas system toilet.
There must be some. The door covering the PV equipment in the office unit at the end looked like it was 6"+ thick, so that section was well insulated at least. I expect the remaining walls have at least a couple inches of foam on the interior of the container, as condensation would be a big problem anywhere but the desert otherwise. They also mentioned spray foaming the underside of the container at the beginning. A challenge with containers is that you run out of space when adding lots of insulation because of the fixed dimensions.
It all looks nice and cozy. I just wonder about the durability of the homes. How good arethe plastics and materials? After 20 years does it become brittle and things start cracking and breaking due to exposure to the heat and sunlight?
Are there maintenance engineers to service these units? Could the unit be adapted to wetter climates? I see the rust finish as a simple change to a waterproof paint coating. There us a homeless issue in many European countries, this could help with the addition of a rain collection and filter point. Birdy
The world needs more of these! Like huge factories! To make the price down! Can make cities with this like legos at take millions from misery! We all don't need money for nothing! We are entrepreneurs by nature! We don't need money to motive us for nothing! That's the excuse to slave us to money! Let's work like nature and that's sooo simpler!
He says fill the water tanks with a hose but if you don't have a water line, where you getting the water? Plus why aren't those solar panels on an angle? You could see sediment building up on it and it's gonna affect production. That toilet is kinda crazy, though.
This is intended as an ADU. You get the water line from the house it is "Auxilliary" to. Really I think most people are just going to make a permanent hose connection with a float valve.
That solar isn’t pulling too much energy. I’m using a basic EcoFlow delta pro with 4 panels and am pulling 1.5kw. 2 batteries in my room power everything from a oled tv, lights, 4 computers, nas, AC, etc. Nonprice for this home means they need to scale before it becomes affordable.
1. You cannot run HVAC and the grease interceptor in the same room as the electrical and power mgmt, no mention of the potential humidity problem. 2. You cannot water plants with chemical filled grey-water unless you use a 5-zero ppm filter. 55 microns is not enough to prevent your plants from a slow death. 3. I saw zero fire suppression, protection or prevention. 4. Insulating a metal box is an art, would love to know how he managed this feat in Arizona using metal (A heat conductor) and concrete (a heat battery). 5. How is the metal box coated and sealed to prevent water damage? not to mention the lack of insulation to dry out any potential leaks... Despite this, it's one of the best looking metal boxes i've seen and i'm sure it cost about the same as a house.
Way to much water. On my boat, I use 150 liters a month. I summer water will keep for about 2 weeks. Once the Temp is below 8 degrees, it will keep for 3 months. I use a home build composting toilet, no odors and no energy or water use at all.
@@kirstendirksen I am located in Rotterdam, the Netherlands. The toilet is pretty standart. I bought a urine devider from "free range design" and build a bench from a teak salon tabel from a thrift store. There is a Dutch video on my channel. That's intended for visitors, but so far no one dared to use it other the me:-)
How much is that high-tech toilet, and how much heat is lost with it being a storage container? How many clean, non-contaminated containers are there when theres more renewable resources that would work better for less. Half of the design is really cool, especially the water system but it feels like other parts werent throught through enough.
He went to pretty elaborate lengths to avoid a composting toilet. That's the main thing I'd do differently. But I really like the thought that went into this. My only gripe about massive use of solar cells is that they wear out and have to be replaced, which makes their footprint bigger than some other methods of incorporating solar concepts with home builds.
What? Solar panels are "solid state" and literally last forever. In 25 years they are still rated for 90% production - and they don't fall much after 90%... Now if you were bitching about the BATTERY usage I would give you some credit.. unless you are using the more modern chemistries those batteries are only good for 4-5 years. Lead Acid can last 10 but are much bulkier and inefficient. The new LiFePo cells are likely going to be 15 years unless you really load them down.
All metal building with metal closet storing batteries, etc. If you are in a place like Arizona, you are going to have a VERY hard time cooling that place down. You won't be able to touch your own house and those batteries are going to overheat.
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As a mechanical engineer specialized in production management and industrialization, I was impressed with the production process of these units. It is great to see design and manufacturing integrated in a single process. This besides the great solution for living space, of course. Thank you for sharing; I had a great 20 minutes and a wide grin at the end!
My wife and I got really excited about these units. We live in the valley and need an office in the backyard for remote work. I called the Spark and Steel office to inquire about the SB1 unit and was told they are only currently making single family apartments at the moment. And they don’t sell the SB1 or SB2 as one-off units. They would only consider making them if multiple were ordered, like for a hospitality vendor. Feels very disingenuous to omit that detail from their website. What a shame.
Look into how wasteful these are and how inefficient in terms of thermal regulation. These container homes are just a fad for people who want to seem sustainable while in reality it is the complete opposite. Most of these containers have to be sourced new due to regulations and potential contamination from previous transports. And you have to spend a lot if you want it to be well insulated since metal is an incredibly inefficient material to use.
@@aeazfh1800 Long ago I went through the disillusionment phase of shipping containers as a building solution. I don't see them as sustainable save-the-earth options that everyone should clearly flock to. Rather, I like them for their durability and relatively low-maintenance qualities. This isn't true in all environments of course, but in the dry climate of Arizona, the corten steel material has a lot going for it. They need to be spray foam insulated to counteract the thermal bridging, and studded out in order to finish the interior walls. I fully recognize this is more costly and labor intensive than batted insulation in traditional stick frame construction. But once those are done, the structure could last without any major rework to the exterior for a lifetime or longer. I'd be hard pressed to find anything with that longevity outside of block construction, which still requires re-coating of the exterior every 15-20 years. And, this is highly subjective, I like the aesthetics of the rust patina.
@ Ah i see, maybe so but the need for spray foam insulation in any type of building is in my opinion something to avoid. Although i will say i am also a fan of the textures that come from rust, but nothing beats the aesthetics of natural earth building (to me). anyways, good luck with your office build.
there main advantage is no permits. No build time. Living space in yard or as a cabin. 1 day. Move in. As far as office space it's got to be cost effective. He obviously can't just bang them out Henry Ford style yet. I think he's brilliant. The video shows skill innovation and incredible knowledge. I'm very impressed
@@1Craigsworld I'm now looking at a company called "Mini-o" which makes a 10x16ft unit that can also be prefabricated and dropped in a backyard. They even offer a solar package and AC so permits can be avoided. That unit, which is comparable to the SB1, will be in the range of $50k with install included. That's $20k cheaper than the SB1, which doesn't include install. I agree, I think the concept is cool and well executed. But Spark + Steel's refusal to build single units on-demand for people suggests that the economics just don't make sense for these. Even with all their automation, people still can't afford these at their current price point, so they are more akin to novelties that wealthy individuals can commission to build in batches. Otherwise they are unobtainable for most people. If they were forthcoming about this fact on their website, I'd be forgiving about this. To quote the Backstreet Boys, "Quit playing games with my heart"
I think we all wanted to see him pull out the ashtray on that toilet😂.
What I kept wond'ring: ¿ What happens if he puts the ashes back into the toilet bowl ?
1h burning 1 feces load... Imagine when diarrhea strikes
@@paulus.tarsensus then it’s gone, like twice baked potatoes.
These incinerators toilets are super cool. I’ve seen these for overland vehicles for $2k
urine?
Really love the soiling on the solar *MODULES* just goes to show they thought it through for about 5-10 minutes,.
With all that ~1500 gallons of water storage already included in the design/build .. I find it curious that they chose to not use any of that water for thermal storage from a air/water heat pump .. a ~90F (~50C) dT thermal storage of that much water could be storing over 300kwh of heat for winter , or cold for summer .. and it could also allow the heat pump to have a higher yearly average CoP harnessing heat during the day to use at night , or harnessing cold at night to use during the day.
Most people don’t consider water mass for a thermal sink, thumbs up for being aware.
An EcoSmart hot water on demand unit would be better as well.
This is America, you can't bring up efficiency and long term thinking here. It's a futile effort at best.
At what cost?
@@paintedpony2935 what 'additional' cost is more aligned with the thought I posted about .. the design as shown in this video seems to already has the vast majority like around ~90% of the equipment , space , and costs of a water thermal storage system included in their ~1500 gallon existing design.
They currently made the design choice to use 100% battery energy storage , and not use the ~1500 gallons for thermal storage .. It cost me ~$3,000 for my ~500 Gallon thermal storage , with my heat pump doing a ~90F/~50C dT swing , mine stores ~100kwh .. That's about ~$30 per kwh of thermal storage .. way way less expensive $/kwh than one can do with a battery based energy storage system .. their 'additional' cost would be less than what my total cost was , as their ~1500 gallon system already seems to include about ~90% of the parts , space, and cost of a water thermal storage system.
I am not them .. Soo I can't tell you about what it cost for them to do something .. But , I do find it curious for them to go as far as they did with water storage , and then not go that last little bit further.
As RVers ourselves this is a really easy home that we could adapt to. We can see more traditionalists having challenges adapting but even the 8 gallon water heater is easily doable.
This is a really solid design.
I have the Cinderella toilet installed in my office grid RV. It’s great. It’s amazing how much water you safe using it.
Water you danger!!!
If you don't flush it what is the smell like? Best Regards and Best Wishes!
@@hanovergreen4091 Well if you take a shit, it will smell like shit. The poo doesn't sit in water, but in a paper filter, so it smells.
@@sighheinrich Well, that makes sense, but the dood made it sound like it didn't. Do you have one?
@@sighheinrich So the lid doesn't seal out the odor... The guy implied otherwise.
Priced at 185k on their website. Not the cheapest ADU solution. Could do well in major metros, but doesn’t pencil out outside of those.
Many well converted vans are at least that price and much, much smaller. Prices are not what you expect but this unit is quite reasonably priced for what it is. There are cheaper options that may suit individual tastes better. It's a matter of preference.
I couldn't find the prices on the website...but given that you don't need plumbing and other sitework, that might make the final cost more competitive.
These are very cool! I bought land, had to sink a well, build a septic field, pay for power to reach the house, put in a triple wide manufacture home. This is such a great solution to the permits and all of the construction that’s involved. I love this.
@@vladeckk21I think someone mentioned $185000
Make sure your property is zoned for manufactured housing! Also zoned for a second dwelling if theres already a home there. Most residential properties are single family, meaning only one domicile allowed. Varies by state.
Also, if your property is not zoned for these uses, get to your city/county/state zoning meetings and lobby for change.
Make sure you vote to get rid of BS zoning laws.
Even my small very Red, very NIMBY home city added ADUs to their city codes (the "standard" code is usually a third party product that many cities share so expect it to be the same in most places.)
As long as your zoning is standard residential you can add an ADU -- but the restrictions are that you have to use the utilities from the main dwelling - it can't be larger than 50% of the size of the main house, and you cannot "rent" the unit out. (that last bit is the killer for most people - no AirB&Bs..) Note that its very hard to get permission to build a shop/barn.. but they made ADUs automatic.
I have a nephew that is in LOVE with the idea of living in "Slab City" in SoCal. Something like this would be perfect for that location. Although I would want to add some gear to recover any humidity inside to return to the water system. That would actually only take an internal dehumidifier fed into some form of filtration system, very doable!
He should definatly visit there for a few days and nights first it gets wild.
@@Barskor1 He lived there a couple of years ago for around a year.
@@michiganengineer8621 Well then he is ready for it
I toured Slab City one day a few years ago in my motorhome. I was afraid to spend the night.
Huge garbage piles and litter everywhere. Burnt out trailers. Seemed more like a lawless drug haven.
Occasional water delivery and you're all set. Would certainly be one of the fancy homes at slab City.
Placing the ducted mini split above the Victron equipment and lithium batteries is a bold strategy
My son wants one when we get the property… Great ideas, tech and Green approaches
not green at all, do some more research into how wasteful these homes are.
With many units marketed today, this appears a truly user freindly option than an ongrid small home, it does need a larger front living area for true comfort and the toilet may be the future option for add on small houses. Good Luck to the company.
I'm curious if they've thought to do rainwater collection off of the roof/solar panels or was it too much trouble and not enough surface area to supply the unit?
That could probably be added if you're in an area with appreciable rainfall. They're talking the desert areas of Arizona though.
I love this from a manufacturing standpoint, this gets people into a home at a cheaper price vs building on site. I've been dreaming about building a container home for a long time, this is a process I can get behind for building container homes on a major scale. I love the innovation for the robotic arms, truly smart. If he finds enough business doing this, this can be a process to be seen around the country more if demand permits it, maybe even licensed as a chain if the process is stream lined enough. Definitely a cool build and setup.
Pricing per unit aside ( not cheap from what I read ), this is a solution amongst many.
Its implementation cuts permitting timelines, is is zoned proof ( by construction build code ), which includes drop ins on industrially zoned land, trailer parks, or out in the sticks.
I can see why the manufacturer is fitting his plant to scale up.
It is good to see Kirsten and Husband are unbiased and agnostic. Good call.
This is no sh.t the future. Love this. Elegant solution for repurposing containers into homes. Really enjoyed this one Kirsten. Please moar! Best Regards and Best Wishes!
ok, we can be done with shipping container homes for a bit. especially when they aren't cheap despite that being the supposed key aspect.
You're better off just making the same sized dwelling with wood for half the cost.
That's not really the point of something like this as far as I can tell
230,000 dollars for a unit.. I mean, i understand this is aimed for particular segment in the market and wanting to run a profit but holy shit can i do this much cheaper. Even factoring in decent tools for 50k you can do this for 25-40% their cost. ps; I have build sheds professionally that will last 50 years that cost 30-40k.
@@ekimeno3061 Then who is it for if not A) someone who wants to sublet a property, or B) someone who wants to get a small home quickly? Not even a handful of videos ago Kirsten went to New Hampshire to see that tiny home community that can put up a larger sq/ft 'tiny' home with less waste and far cheaper than this, and with more amenities.
@@Chedring do you know which video is the new hampshire one your talking about
@@differlot "The lot fit 9 McMansions. They built 44 small homes for locals instead"
THANK YOU SO MUCH. I AM SO IMPRESSED. A WAVE OF THE FUTURE.
So how much does it cost?
One hundred million dollars (dr evil voice)😊
SB1 starts at $70K
SB2 starts at $185K
Trying to find out if that includes shipping and install.
$185,000
@@hanovergreen4091 of course it doesn't include shipping or install, who knows where it's going
I wonder how much the toilet filters cost? I wonder how often you have to change the filters for the water system to work and how much that cost?
For that price I can buy two full homes with 7 acres of land, a natural well and a view you cant beat. Portugal.
the robot cutter reminded me of Patlabor *goodtimes, but the serialised coding system using 'PB' + 'J' is brilliant. Got to rewatch their stacked AZ dwellings again. That was patina goodness! ❤ Cheers from Melburn, Ozstralia
70k for a studio and 185k for a one bedroom. Not including installation. Thats crazy.
You can buy a tiny home/shed for $15k. Buy $10k worth of solar, $15k of batteries. The water storage and professional help is another $10k. Toilet could go compost, bio-bag, black water tank, mini-septic (especially if you're in a septic legal area) or some folks could DIY a trench to the main stack in their home. Hell, even add $10k for a sewer permit and you're still under $60k and some of those shed-houses look nicer than the "heat marked" metal this guy thinks is cool.
Also not including the cost of the land, lol.
Still prob cheaper than hooking up to utilities. And much faster. And you won't really have much utilities.
Wasn't clear to me though if they've incorporated a rain catchment system.
@@Nphen My guess is that the majority of that cost could be going to labor for non DIY'ers for the sake of convenience. idk. Still seems a bit overpriced even with labor.
@Nphen the price tags on those tiny houses are very deceptive, you can find many review of them; those sheds don't come with plumbing or electrical, among other things.
With the solar and the tanks set up - that's a lot of money in parts and labor to hire a service for that separately.
It's definitely a large price tag, but I don't think it's crazy overpriced, and the markup is due mostly to two things: 1 - it's a young company making at a small scale, and 2 - you pay for the speed convenience and lower stress of getting an all-in-one package.
That is NOT a cost saving in most of the US.
What is it like in extreme heat! Desert and tropical and extreme cold
Another fantastic design!! Phoenix is lucky to have you.
This is way too much. They could have done it up so much better for a lower price point. I'm not at all a fan. Especially sandblasting it. I know its corten steel but still, who wants to bump into rust and mess your clothes up? no tilt on the solar panels, so they have all the dirt from standing water left behind ruining their efficiency.
@@car2069 I was wondering why the panels were so dirty - I guess they need to be flat since they don't know solar orientation of the destination?
RE steel, I'd wager it's not even corten because they were painted containers. Beautiful patina but you'd probably have to seal it to prevent further rusting. Problematic in a non-arid environment.
@@kevinlyles3355 all standard shipping containers are made with corten... that how they survive in a saltwater environment.
@@DarylOster That's interesting, thanks for enlightening me. Didn't know one would paint corten.
30x 400W makes for some significant overkill in power production. Especially in Arizona! In fact it would likely also cover the power needs for the primary house that it was built behind.
nice little guest/pool house. not the best idea to live in something like this. whos this for though? seems so expensive to make, and it doesn't look better than a regular pool house.
Probably not great in a heavy snow area. Trying yo keep the panels clear would be a lot of work. Also in cold climate how do you keep all that water storage. Intake and graywater output from freezing. It's interesting for sure but not for everywhere in my opinion. It will be interesting to see if prices come down as production efficiencies increase.
That was so impressive. The vision, the engineering and manufacturing, and the most appealing of it all, the hands down approach from someone who knows 100% of their product, something 99% of CEO's know nothing about. I was super intrigued. A huge turn-off for me, as I went to their web-site, was the lack of pricing. I don't want to waste anybody's time. If this housing option is over $250,000, I am not even remotely interested. I can make it myself for way cheaper, but do I have the time or the drive to do it?
I understand there are so many custom options. But come on, say something like the basic kit cost $$$ or something. I went from super hyped to super chilled. Anybody can build amazing stuff. For what price among us mortals?
Great show. Thank you guy's.
They need these in North carolina. It's the perfect solution after having lost everything. Start transporting these things and people will be glad you did
I feel certain they won't be doing that at $185,000 each!
Very interesting but I prefer outside air and outside visual.
I would be interested to live in this if it had more windows.
Didn’t see clothing storage either.
Good start
What kind of foundation does this need. Slab, pier and beam, poured concrete?
LOVE this concept! Brilliant ideas!! Thanks so much for sharing!!!
Awesome builds, I just wished you have asked about pricing.
I love this! Unfortunately, ridiculously, we have ordinances against container homes. They are not allowed in my city!! I don’t believe we can have ADUs either😩
beautiful, keep up the work!
Need to have a slight monoslope roof for water runoff and exterior coating for preventive corrosion.
aesthetically it looks like its target market is recently divorced dads with money to throw around (but not that much money)
Pretty cool concept.
In that last unit, I'd worry about condensate water leakage from the mini-split hanging above all those electrics. Maybe there was a catch pan under that AC unit that I missed?
i lived in a container home for a year and it was insane how hot that thing gets inside, you had to have the ac running all day
What type of insulation was used?
@@itsallaboutjesus8935 not sure but you can ask jesus
Gret video, but would really like to see all the current and possible layouts.
The cost hurts, but to not have to deal with the county to get a quick permitted home out by Wickenberg is well worth that cost. They need to integrate rain capture systems as well.
These look wonderful. People in the US must be pretty excited about this if the costs can be reduced by the efficiency.
Pretty cool engineering. Would love to see an option other than spray foam though.
My idea is to re use the shower and tub water to wash laundry. Yep grey tanks. After it washes laundry is good through another filter and then is use to water the garden, or flush a bio gas system toilet.
how much?
230k, from their website
Loving this !
Wish these could be rural cabin homes….
What about insulation - if you lived up some place like Prescott Valley or Sedona, AZ?
There must be some. The door covering the PV equipment in the office unit at the end looked like it was 6"+ thick, so that section was well insulated at least. I expect the remaining walls have at least a couple inches of foam on the interior of the container, as condensation would be a big problem anywhere but the desert otherwise. They also mentioned spray foaming the underside of the container at the beginning. A challenge with containers is that you run out of space when adding lots of insulation because of the fixed dimensions.
@@travelfeetI understand but it's risky to 'assume'. Better to be confirmed.
I can live there forever. That is all l need.
@15:06 Switch to magnets to reduce your costs of perfectly aligned male/female connectors and make removing and replacing the panels a breeze.
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Thanks for posting
Cool stuff. Now lets go over the systems manual for these units.
I want one here in Florida.
It all looks nice and cozy. I just wonder about the durability of the homes. How good arethe plastics and materials? After 20 years does it become brittle and things start cracking and breaking due to exposure to the heat and sunlight?
very impressed. ⭐⭐⭐⭐
A step in the right direction.
Clever idea, some interesting tech
Plz confirm the details on installed insulation, if any. Thx!
And when a foot of snow covers the roof/solar overnight? Thought from Wisconsin.
its called a "broom" -- like every RVer carries for this exact reason
Cost and where are these available?
That might be viable if I wanted to live in Phoenix. Which I don't.
Beautiful materials and finishes; just needs to be bigger (like 3 or 4 containers more).
Are there maintenance engineers to service these units? Could the unit be adapted to wetter climates? I see the rust finish as a simple change to a waterproof paint coating. There us a homeless issue in many European countries, this could help with the addition of a rain collection and filter point.
Birdy
The world needs more of these! Like huge factories! To make the price down! Can make cities with this like legos at take millions from misery! We all don't need money for nothing! We are entrepreneurs by nature! We don't need money to motive us for nothing! That's the excuse to slave us to money! Let's work like nature and that's sooo simpler!
So how difficult is it to get permits for this as a second dwelling?
🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟 Genius!!!
How many square feet in the
SB1 model starting at 70K…?
Cool robot! Pretty amazing process. This man is very brilliant.
If this is totally off grid and not hooked up to utilities....... Where do you get the water to " fill the tank with your hose" ?
He says fill the water tanks with a hose but if you don't have a water line, where you getting the water? Plus why aren't those solar panels on an angle? You could see sediment building up on it and it's gonna affect production. That toilet is kinda crazy, though.
This is intended as an ADU. You get the water line from the house it is "Auxilliary" to. Really I think most people are just going to make a permanent hose connection with a float valve.
What about the air quality as in CO2 build up inside?
2kwh per flush means it runs for an hour at 2kw each time you flush. Seems like a long burn.
Does it maintain 78 degrees with 112 degrees outside???
Does your cost include foundation for the ADU?
That solar isn’t pulling too much energy. I’m using a basic EcoFlow delta pro with 4 panels and am pulling 1.5kw. 2 batteries in my room power everything from a oled tv, lights, 4 computers, nas, AC, etc. Nonprice for this home means they need to scale before it becomes affordable.
In how may Arizona counties are these legal/meet codes?
Wow, impressive! What does a finished house like that cost? What is the cost to have it delivered and set up on site?
1. You cannot run HVAC and the grease interceptor in the same room as the electrical and power mgmt, no mention of the potential humidity problem.
2. You cannot water plants with chemical filled grey-water unless you use a 5-zero ppm filter. 55 microns is not enough to prevent your plants from a slow death.
3. I saw zero fire suppression, protection or prevention.
4. Insulating a metal box is an art, would love to know how he managed this feat in Arizona using metal (A heat conductor) and concrete (a heat battery).
5. How is the metal box coated and sealed to prevent water damage? not to mention the lack of insulation to dry out any potential leaks...
Despite this, it's one of the best looking metal boxes i've seen and i'm sure it cost about the same as a house.
Way to much water. On my boat, I use 150 liters a month. I summer water will keep for about 2 weeks. Once the Temp is below 8 degrees, it will keep for 3 months. I use a home build composting toilet, no odors and no energy or water use at all.
Your setup sounds great. Curious about your toilet setup. Where are you located?
Better to have too much water than too little.
@ItsEverythingElse it will spoil pretty bad.
@@kirstendirksen I am located in Rotterdam, the Netherlands. The toilet is pretty standart. I bought a urine devider from "free range design" and build a bench from a teak salon tabel from a thrift store. There is a Dutch video on my channel. That's intended for visitors, but so far no one dared to use it other the me:-)
Warm weather use only.
Can you stack them? I realize there'd be less solar panel surface, but you could put them on main house or elsewhere.
Mix a little water in with your ashtray ashes and voila....you have a great low cost beauty face mask :)
But if you HAVE a hose to refill your tank why not just connect the hose directly?
Will they come back and pick it up when I change my mind?
The inside looks like a cheap doublewide. And 3/4 of it is pipes, tanks and batteries!
How much is that high-tech toilet, and how much heat is lost with it being a storage container? How many clean, non-contaminated containers are there when theres more renewable resources that would work better for less. Half of the design is really cool, especially the water system but it feels like other parts werent throught through enough.
maintenance/replacement costs?
Would vary of course . . .
how many year is required to be off grid with that much solar panel
Thanks for sharing this vital information...from the Ozarks drinking fresh spring water 💦
Good Stuff 🙏
Yes but again where is it LEGAL to put these
He went to pretty elaborate lengths to avoid a composting toilet. That's the main thing I'd do differently. But I really like the thought that went into this.
My only gripe about massive use of solar cells is that they wear out and have to be replaced, which makes their footprint bigger than some other methods of incorporating solar concepts with home builds.
everything wears out eventually. I'd expect the panels to outlast the toilet, fridge, mini-split, batteries, and maybe even the LED strip lighting.
What? Solar panels are "solid state" and literally last forever. In 25 years they are still rated for 90% production - and they don't fall much after 90%...
Now if you were bitching about the BATTERY usage I would give you some credit.. unless you are using the more modern chemistries those batteries are only good for 4-5 years. Lead Acid can last 10 but are much bulkier and inefficient. The new LiFePo cells are likely going to be 15 years unless you really load them down.
Solar panels have no moving parts.... it degrades yearly and have a life of 25 years... not an issue
Pretty cool!
It would be ideal , only if I had a backyard!!!
The toilet's disposal system is more like an ass-tray than an ashtray.
Also, my research has shown that having solar panels on your roof is a health hazard. Better to have them separate from the structure you live in.
Thanks👍🏼
All metal building with metal closet storing batteries, etc. If you are in a place like Arizona, you are going to have a VERY hard time cooling that place down. You won't be able to touch your own house and those batteries are going to overheat.
How much does it cost