ikagura Yeah, to be honest I don't really agree with naming something what it isn't. Like if Sega really had a "Sonic Adventure 3" that's what the title would be called. But that's just my opinion.
Galaxxus Rosarrius Thank you! The jerks that insist 06 is SA3 make zero sense and what you said is definitely right. Why name a game something completely different and potentially confuse fans? Granted, this has happened in gaming and movie sequels but that usually has to already be part of the naming process. Halo is an exception but it's not a great one because Halo 5 wasn't made by the original creators. Considering how badly people want an SA3, why on Mobius would they not name an SA sequel something that will obviously gain people's attention? Naming it anything other than SA3 would mislead fans greatly; they would have to rely on trailers, gameplay reveals, and box art for the game to say "I am SA3!". That seems illogical to me. Where is the profit in that? I don't care how many times people say 06 or Unleashed or even Heroes is SA3 and Adventure fans should stop asking, no matter how much it pisses them off, *these games are NOT SA3.* I, personally, would love SA3 but I'm not going to throw a fit if it never gets made. I would even be satisfied with just a spin-off Chao Garden game. I think if anything, am SA3 would be better suited as the very last Sonic game EVER. I'm sure Sonic will have an eventual and inevitable end but in my opinion, making SA3 the send-off to an otherwise mixed bag of games for Sonic's franchise is possibly the best thing SEGA could do. It would force them to make the best damn 3D game they've ever created, or at least knowing they tried with all their heart. The high expectations would really push SEGA to really take high risks for a huge reward. In retrospect, if it turns out as a flop, it seal the fate of all those who began hating Sonic, but at least then the "torture" would stop. Of course, it would also be a sad departure if it received the highest scores of any 3D Sonic game, because no more games would be created, but I think a potential good or great last game is better than a mediocre or a crappy last game. I don't know if SA3 will actually ever happen, whether soon or not at all, nor do I know how it will be received, but I am hopeful that such a game will bring the 3D side of things to a good place. It sounds like Mania might do that for 2D half, so an SA3 might do that too if Forces doesn't bode well with fans in the end. Apologies for the long comment, it's just this thread got me thinking.
Ok, technically Sonic '06 can be called SA3 from a gameplay standpoint (Multiple characters in each storyline). But the reason 06 failed wasn't because of this formula. It was because the story was messy and gameplay was broken (due to rushed development). And same with Rise of lyric that game wasn't pandered and hated because of the adventure formula, it was because of a lack-luster story and shitty gameplay broken or not. And the main reason they won't make Adventure 3 is because people just wanted Sonic and only Sonic a few years back. So now the Adventure series is just seen as a thing of the past, to Sonic team and Sega at least.
Shlahberdahber 1634 Dont kill me for saying this but I think Shadow is adventure 3 since it came before 06 and it has the same gameplay style and takes place around sa2 to 06
"the Adventure series is just seen as a thing of the past" Same for the genesis games and maybe even the 3 "modern games". I hope they could justify Mania in the continuity (or no)
David Castillo I won't, what I meant by gameplay style was how the story mode worked (having multiple storylines that showed different characters' perspective). Shadow's game had similar gameplay but the story mode worked differently, in adventure 1&2 you had multiple storylines leading up to the final story from different perspectives, Shadow's game let you choose what you wanted to be good, bad, and neutral. But in terms of direct gameplay and continuity, sure (excluding guns and vehicles).
The Animated Gamer because fans would just compare the whole thing to adventure 2 and expect it to be almost the same thing and if sega tries a different approach just a little bit different then the game would get hated on just like sonic 4
Le Purple Spy So fans want another game with treasure hunting levels with an awful radar system and shooting stages for 90% of the game? Really? Gotta go fast gotta go fast!
Le Purple Spy So if they don't have any treasure hunting and shooting levels and if all the characters go running through the levels like the classics but,people will be mad?
As someone who is a Sonic Adventure fan, I don't want Sega to make Sonic Adventure 3. Mostly because I don't think they can pull it off and I'm afraid that they'll fuck it up like they did with Sonic 4. Yes, I know that Sonic 4 was made by Dimps, but there were a few Sonic Team members that helped Dimps create Sonic 4 with Takashi Iizuka being one of the producers. I may love the Sonic Adventure series to death, but even I'm aware that the Adventure games are not flawless. The biggest reason why I loved the games so much is because the way how Sonic was controlled in those games. I loved how you had full control with Sonic's movements whenever he was either running really fast or platforming. There was never a point in those games where I thought Sonic was going to fall off the edge due to his speed or when I make precise jumps. While I did enjoy the boost gameplay in Sonic Unleashed and Sonic Generations (in fact I was blown away by it when Sonic Unleashed was released), my main gripe with the gameplay is Sonic's control. Sonic moves so fast that I'm worried that I'll fall off the edge whenever I'm jumping on platform to platform. Not only that, Sonic's jumps feel somewhat stiff in those games (kinda like in Castlevania where you have no control on how precise you want your jumps to be). This is why I'm not a huge fan of the boosting mechanic. I'm not saying that the boosting mechanic is a terrible game mechanic, even though I think the boosting ability should've been replaced with the spindash. I did enjoy it when Sonic Unleashed was released, but as time went on, I really wish I could have full control on Sonic's movements without falling off the platforms every now and then. And that's why I believe that the Adventure games captured that perfectly. Yes, Sonic 06 does play like the Sonic Adventure games, but the controls don't feel the same as the Adventure gameplay. I think somecallmejohnny explain it best in his Sonic 06 review on how Sonic's movements are too precise. Also GamerGuyd7Aces, you are correct about Takashi Iizuka's statement. He is full of shit. He's been asked before if Sega will create Sonic Adventure 3 in interviews and panels. He even said this back in 2010 that if many Sonic fans really want Sonic Adventure 3, Sonic Team will consider making Sonic Adventure 3. Well, there is a VERY high demand for Sonic Adventure 3 and it's been almost seven years since that interview, so yeah I don't think Sonic Team will ever create Sonic Adventure 3. As for what you said about Sega distancing themselves from the Adventure formula because of Sonic 06 and Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric, I agree with you on that. However, Sonic 06 could've been a good game if Sega took their time with the game instead of rushing the game so that it'll be release on Sonic's 15 Anniversary. Sega should've known better than to release a broken game. As for Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric, well that game was bound to be a failure from the start, considering the shit that happened behind the scenes during the development of the game. So, I won't give Big Red Button any flak for that. I am kinda diappointed that we only got 42 seconds of gameplay footage of Sonic Forces, but I'm glad to know that you won't be able to abuse the boosting ability like you could in Sonic Unleashed and Sonic Generations. Hopefully, we'll get more information about the new character and the new gamplay mechanic very soon. Anyway, keep up with the great work, GamerGuy7Aces. Love your videos, man =).
The whole point of Sonic Unleashed is to test your gaming reflexes. After all, it's a "Action 3D platformers" and games with action have to do with the game testing your reaction time.
That's video game knowledge 101, mate. Games likes Sonic Unleashed are going to test your gaming reflexes by going easy on you on the start and then challenge you as you progress through the game. I have no problem with games testing my reflexes. I mean, I was able to beat Sonic Unleashed just fine, so it's not like my reflexes were the issue. I just want to be able to control Sonic's movements like you could in the Adventure games. In my opinion, the Adventure games perfected on how you should control Sonic. When you start moving Sonic with the analog stick, Sonic will go slow for a few seconds and then pick up speed as you keep holding on to the analog stick to the direction on where you want Sonic to go. This helps so much because I can make precise jumps without worrying that I will fall off the platforms. I believe this is how speed and platforming should be handle in a 3D Sonic game. Now, my main problem with Sonic's control in Sonic Unleashed is that he goes 0 to 100 really fast when you start controlling him. I have no problem controlling him when he's just blazing through stages with no platforms to interrupt my flow, but when I stop to do some basic platforming, it can be very nerve racking because I worry that Sonic might pick up speed if I'm not careful with the analog stick as I'm platforming. My other issue with the platforming sections (and this might come off as a nitpick) is that it interrupts the flow of the game. One moment I'll be going super fast, blazing through obstacles and then next I'll be slowing down to jump some platforms, making sure that I don't fall off the edge. My problem with it is that I just want to keep going fast without losing the flow. When you have this ability to go 300 mph, you don't want to stop lol. You want to keep going until you reach the end of the goal. I don't know that might just be me though. Anyway, like I said, the boosting formula is not a terrible game design. I still enjoy it. It's just that I prefer the Adventure formula much more than the other game mechanics that were presented in the previous Sonic games. I'm still looking forward to Sonic Forces regardless, knowing that the game is going to play like Sonic Unleashed and Sonic Generations.
This comment is not meant to dis anyones opinion or feed into the statement that "only my opinion is correct". I respect all of your opinions even if they don't match with mine, which is cool. I agree with the fact that there are the nostalgia freaks and what not. I agree with that we probably won't get an outright SA3. Which is fine, but I don't think they should have completely ditched the Adventure gameplay style. I understand their fear after 06s flop, but honestly I think that that game would have been pretty damn good and the gameplay would have been solid. Given proper time to do so and not rushed. I honestly think that game is over hated. I like it a lot, but I do understand why people don't. Some of us "Adventure Fanboys" just want a game where they actually properly revisit this gameplay style and not put there own twist on it like Lost World, or completely change it into a hack and slash like Rise of Lyric. We also want Sonic to kind of go back to the sense of cool that he had with a lot of the more serious elements and tones that this "era" (if you will) had. It looks as if Forces is kind of going back to the serious aspect of Sonic. After 06 they kinda started toning it down, and it was cool with Unleashed, but they eventually started dumbing it down and Sonic hasn't felt very...SONIC for almost a decade now. You know he always had a kind of high octane "extreme" sense of cool, and even hints of maturity and heroism. That's how his character was made. You can see it even in the classic games. Okay I understand Generations wasn't really meant to be taken too seriously in a story perspective, but I hated its interpretation of classic Sonic. They completely disregarded his staple personality and turned him into a shy fuzzy Pixar character. I'm kind of rambling now. About gameplay for Sonic. I prefer the Adventure over Boost. I like the boost, but I feel it would probably work better if treated as a mach speed kind of thing. Usually the boost games for me are kind of a "one and done" type of thing. I don't revisit them very often because the gameplay gets boring quick in my opinion and the stories were kind of dull. Besides Unleashed. The whole Adventure era thing for me is just it didn't reach its full potential. Gaming at that time wasn't exactly at its peak. 06 was inexcusable in the fact that they definitely could have made something good. Sonic then was exciting. He's been kind of drab lately. This ramble is just my opinion and nothing against anyone else's. I do think the Adventure games were some of the best 3d Sonic's ever. Were they perfect? Definitely not, but they have a lot of positives to them. I honestly would like to see the Adventure gameplay with a serious story return, but that's just me.
Chris Joseph i also would love SA3. take the best aspects from 1 and 2... add aome neat power up aspects more levelz secrets chao garden. playable characters.
Karby64 The Adventure fans now are seen as how the classic fans used to be. Now classic Sonic is the big pop culture fad, and the Adventure era gets all the hate cause it's the cool thing to do.
Karby64 I think your misunderstanding him. He's not talking to people who would casually appreciate a sequel to the adventure series. He's calling out the people who feel as if the adventure games are the only way to revive the franchise and save it from the fires of hell. He's talking to the people who ignore all of the other Sonic games that should get a sequel as much as adventure and say their all inferior. Hell, there was even fanboys bitching and complaining that Sonic Forces didn't play or look like a Sonic Adventure 3.
Karby64 Eh even that, you really shouldn't take it to heart. He's not even really bashing them, just making a well detailed argument addressing what Sega will or won't do. If you find it so offensive that he's speaking to the Sonic Adventure 3 fanboys then you are probably likely one of them.
Sega wants the franchise to be in a safe spot, doesn't make games that would BOOM. Like a Chao garden Spin off. Also about these *attempts* at Adventure style games, it's Sega's fault these said game fall flat. Its pretty petty sad people try to blame the fanbase when it comes to the short comings of these *attempts*.
I think they should reboot Sonic honestly. Not like Boom but rather something like a redo of Adventure 1 and 2's story with having more modern gameplay. Basically make what 06 should had been.
or have the game take place after adventure 2 so we can see how the characters grow more as characters like see tails become even more less depended on sonic we get to have the tails we know and love back the real tails aslo get rid of the boost formlea and have more playable characters again
I believe certain past games should be left alone while the new games have some of the mechanics from the old games with new and improved versions of it. it would make new and old gamers happy with a taste of nostalgia.
I praised SA and SA2 for the replay ability it had. chaos. that makes the game so much better than the others because you have a valid reason to keep playing the game well into 100+ hour range. these other games, for a good portion of gamers, only offer one run through of the story mode before they put it down for good. chaos made those two games amazing.
Wrong it was 06. The gameplay style at least is based off adventure gameplay, but it was flawed recreation. The physics and movement was way off. There's nothing wrong the adventure playstyle, it's just 06 did it wrong.
Even tho, I would love to see a new Sonic Adventure-ish game... The Modern Unleashed/Generations game-style fits Sonic more and I had a blast with all these games. Sure, Lost World was different while somewhat tackling the adventure gameplay but was pretty fun as well... (once you get the hang of it that is. XD) So yeah... I think we as fans have to wait what Sega has in stores for us in both Mania and Forces.
I am an adventure 1 fan but i don't really want a SA3 (considering how Sonic 4 went) But i wouldn't mind having Tails and Knuckles playable again with their normal gameplay (no mech no emerald hunting)
I don't want Sonic Adventure 3.... I want an Adventure-like experience that features multiple playable characters and a story with a good mix of humor and intensity. Sonic Forces seems to ALMOST meet that expectation with the exception of multiple playable characters because multiple versions of the same character is not what I have in mind. There is still hope with the third gameplay style and rumors of a "new character" and it was not specifically said that ALL OF SONIC'S FRIENDS would not be playable, they only mentioned Amy, Knuckles, Team Chaotix and recently confirmed Tails as being NPC's who were present in the demo of the first level showed behind curtains. The third gameplay style could even feature multiple characters such as Shadow who has not been confirmed (and who isn't even Sonic's "friend") as well as the new character and maybe a few others who could be playable.
My problem with Mania and Sega as a whole is that they keep shoving the past in our face too much. We like the classics and it's cool to be retro but they do it all the time. Mania should've just been all new levels not mixed with remixed levels and they already said that there will be more remixed levels than new. I like Mania and I'm not saying it's bad all I'm saying is if they do this then make it completely new levels.
I liked You're Idea of Sonic Adventure 3 but at this point after how mediocre Sonic Forces felt I don't want Sonic Adventure 3 to happen not right now. If Sega releases Sonic Adventure 3 today there is a 70% it would end up like Duke Nukem Forever. in 1998 after the first Trailer for Duke Nukem Forever dropped there where tons of high expectations coming after Duke Nukem 3D. 3D Realms kept pushing the game back unfortunately 3D Relms went out of business and Gear Box took over for Duke Nukem Forever and Duke Nukem Forever got negative reviews. Now if Sega releases Sonic Adventure 3 and the game ends up like Duke Nukem Forever the Sonic Fanbase will go on a rampage. If Sega wants feels comfortable and wants to make Sonic Adventure 3 this is what they should do 1. Remake Sonic Adventure 1 and Sonic Adventure 2 2. Go back to the Adventure Gameplay under a different name like Sonic Revolution 3. If Sonic Revolution gets good reviews then make Sonic Adventure 3
@@tailsprowerfan2729 I think the IDW comics kinda made Tails awesome again (look at Sonic IDW issue 21). Him getting scared in issue 29 kinda makes sense being that everyone is at their breaking point but Him being scared of Chaos after He fought Chaos 4 in SA1 kinda makes no sense
The fans interest in classic sonic created the fan games that eventually spawned the developers of Sonic Mania. If you want a Sonic Adventure 3, the fans will have to both show an interest and become their own developers.
@@Banana807 no I don’t think we will if we are fans of the adventure series. It’d actually be a smart route so we can see if they can even handle doing a remake
Honestly Shadow the Hedgehog is probably one of the closest things to SA3. It's a spinoff, but it follows directly after the SA2 storyline, refers to a lot of the events (and even bosses) in SA2, and is similar to the Adventure gameplay style. While '06 is similar to SA in premise, it takes place in a different universe, thus it really isn't a sequel. From what I've seen of Heroes gameplay, it doesn't seem like the Adventure style to me, but I haven't played it so I could be wrong. Heroes does seem to have some connection to the Adventure storyline, but I don't think it's as close as Shadow is.
what about a remaster of the original 2 adventures games, but fixed, i mean the crash bandicoot nsane trilogy was a success in europe even tho the game doesn't offer any new games or levels, the only difference is you can play with coco some crash stages but coco's gameplay is just the same as crash so. a remaster would be good
Rex67Diego9 fandub Remove big the cat,add more sonic and shadow levels and remove MADSPACE and make better voice acting,lip syncing,same if not better artstyle. Not modern sonic artstyle.
I honestly hope we finally get a Sonic Adventure 3, and for Iizuka to retire from Sonic Team. We need Yuji Naka back as the head of Sonic Team. Maybe he'll be the one that gives us a Sonic Adventure 3. And if we do get a Sonic Adventure 3 in the future, I'd want it to take place immediately after Sonic Adventure 2, and have 2 post-credit scenes leading up to Sonic Heroes. And the main villain for an SA3 would have to be another hedgehog.
As curious as I am about the 3rd Playstyle in forces, I'm more curious about how classic Sonic's gameplay is gonna be since it'll be slightly different than in generations. But about Sonic Adventure 3, It'd be cool to have one in the future, but the big problem would be all the hype surrounding it, and if something is/isn't in the game, people are gonna get disappointed. If they added wisps, a lot of the hype would really die down and no one would be looking forward to it, like how some of the hype started to die down for sonic forces once people discovered wisps were gonna be in it (There's other reasons but still). And if the story isn't up to par/better than adventure 1&2, people would start hating it (to me people who play sonic games just for the story also pour milk before the cereal)
So right now I am currently working on a Sonic adventure 3 fan game with a friend of mind as are first game. So far, we have almost completed the story and getting ready to recreate Sonic physic's from SA1 and SA2, with the best of both elements and new elements to improve gameplay. I don't expect it to come but if I were to guest SAGE 2019 ? If you have any recommendations please put a comment down. I can't wait until our game comes out to soon. PS: just for a teaser, Tails' Story would be your favorite because it is one very unique story! #all sonic content are own by Sega. # original idea do not steal.
Since it's Shin Nakamura of Unleashed and 06 fame, I get the feeling that the Third Gameplay style is going to be a much more fleshed-out Werehog type game style. with faster, more frantic combos, weapons and the potential to allow other characters to be playable. it might even try to rival Devil May Cry. unless they get platinum on board in which case where in the green.
what if instead of looking at the games in comparison we just look at the series as a whole? "oh this is after that so the time line says this and this must be" "oh hey theres another sonic game out" which sounds more appealing?
i personally loved the sonic adventure 2 and the chaos i never put as many hours into a sonic game as i did when thwy had the chaos i a ranked every level for the emblems to get more colored chaos and i would replay levels over and over again collect enough rings to buy more stuff for the chaos or new chao eggs i even replayed levels to collect chao drives and animals to raise my chaos i never replayed any sonic game as much as i did sonic adventure 2 for me what makes me feel like i enjoyed a game is replayabliitly ive beaten sonic 1,2,3 and sonic and knuckles at least once or twice each and feel no reason to replay any of these ones to me i definetly have fun with sonic games but feel like video game consols have come so far being fast is not enough to make a good sonic game and that if games are going to do well in this day and age it needs replayabliitly to do great
Loner The Clown honestwy i cant say i bwam chu about the choa 😆 tey are soo adorable i put suuuuu much time intu raising the choa infact i spent more hours intu the choa garden ten the story itself 😁 anyway chyep my fav. sonic was S.A 2 nu doubt
I'm an Adventure fan and I already know we would never get Sonic Adventure 3 and with how Sonic Team and SEGA currently are, I DO NOT trust them to make another Adventure game
I don't like the classic games as much. Don't get me wrong, they're really good games. But the 3D games (Adventure games. Modern Sonic Games for the most part are hold X to win.) are way more fun in my opinion.
If they could make a Sonic Adventure 3 it would be cool if they had a new game for every version of Sonic Classic what you already happened Adventure who didn't get to a appear in generations and the modern Sonic
Sonic Adventure 3 should have all running levels but,when you beat the game you could play a mode where you play as robotnik and you use different machines and the missions are to destroy Sonic.
I heard one of the creators of Sonic The Hedgehog wants to make an SA3 but since there going for new players they might make a spin-off of the adventure series.
People hated sonic 4 because the level design was bad and they were all copy’s of previous stages but worse. Mania is loved because it has great level designs, physics and improves upon previous level types
Sega is also afraid of taking back the adventure formula because of sonic lost world, many ppl didn't. like that game, but it brought back a little bit of the adventure formula
Pixel Attack Galaxy was the spiritual sucesor if you mean Odyssey. And Nintendo is Nintendo, they make good games with the ,,if it aint Broken, dont fix it" moto. Also sega lost the big man behind sonic with 06. Lemme explain, Sonic Games are always different because Sonic Team isnt really allowed to do games other than sonic while Miyamoto and co can try their ideas with their other franchises. I mean, it took the Taxman and stealth to fix classic sonic, who should do 3d sonic then? Sure there are great fangames, but their aint a 3d sonic taxman
The adventure series are my fav games but im pretty contempt if they release good sonic games the only sonic games I actually dislike are shadow, boom rise of lyric and lost world so ill be happy with anything as long as its good, and yes sonic 06 isn't good I just enjoy breaking the game with the gems to see what I can glitch through theres joy to be had though.
Well the chap garden is the icing on the cake I love the adventure games cause of the character and I remember I had fun fishing with big the cat I am gonna replay the games soon see if it still is fun.
the thing is sonic unleashed was supposed to be sonic adventure 3 it was it's codename but overtime sonic team focused on sonic gameplay then scrapped it and made sonic world advanture (which is unleashed)
Just make sonic adventure 3 with sonic, tails, and knuckles modes from adventure 1. But make tails have his seperate cutscenes so his charafter arc is unique. No more robot supersuit shit.
how hard could it possibly be to make a game with like 3 different campaigns. 8-10 playable characters with a mission select screen like SA2 and a halfway decent story, and like 30 missions or so? sonic, tails, knuckles amy, shadow, rouge, eggman, silver, blaze,cream, omega, and possibly even emeril. cmon man it would be nice if they nail it right and give every character a good amount of missions and a chao garden.
VishisTV No there gonna ruin it plus why would silver and shadow and blaze be in SA3 so if they do Sonic 5 there gonna put in like idk Rouge or Omega or Silver?
Only if Sega were still making consoles would we see a SA3. It would have been fitting after all, to have a Dreamcast trilogy alongside the Genesis trilogy. But alas, the Dreamcast was not meant to last long enough.
if sonic adventure 3 came out it would have amazing cgi like sonic unleashed. (i really hope it comes out.) and the graphics will be like sonic unleashed. also it will have silver involved. and the story and game will not be as bad.
I don’t understand why people think the classics are so great other than nostalgia. I mean you’re always hitting road blocks and having to slow down, there’s no variety unless you count the special stages, which are always a grind nightmare (especially sonic 2) and once again, how many times have you been punished for going fast? I can’t count how many times I was slammed into an enemy that was just off screen, or I hit a spring sending me back and making me slow down and redo my steps, being careful not to hit the spring. And having to memorize a stage to correct that and actually enjoy the stage isn’t a sign of good gameplay.
I Think Sonic Heroes is Adventure 3 Without a FULL Chao Garden (though it has funtionallity with sonic advance's chao gardeb) My 11 Reasons____________________ • It Was The Next Main Sonic Game After SA2Battle • If You Think about it... Heroes has a "3" Gimmick Simply Added to The Adventure Formula. Coincedence, I Think NOT! • It Has Alot of Playable Characters • It Has The Adventure/PREMIUM Voice Cast (Ryan Drummond Ect.) • It Has a FULLY Crush 40 Soundtrack! (Ever Since 06, Crush 40 Has Only Had 1 or even NO Songs in Sonic Soundtracks. They're an Adventure Staple) • O M O C H A O • Tails is Somewhat Useful. (In The 4Kids Era [2005-2009] Tails Often Wasn't There. In the DARK/Pontaff Era [2010-NOW] The Writer Made Tails almost As More Useless As Their Sonic Writing) • It Has The SAME Emblems & Ranking from SA1DX & SA2Battle • It Has a 2D (ish) Front Cover. [The Cover is Painted to Look Like The Models. • It Was Gonna Be Called SA3 But SEGA Was Worried Peoplw Would Think They HAVE TO Play SA1 & SA2 To Understand This One When They Don't. • The PC Port is T R A S H
If they make Sonic Adventure 3 They wont call it that because if they made a bad Sonic game with that name it would get even more hate than normally, its a risk theyre not gonna take. So if they do make it, we wont know that that was theyre goal and we will still ask for Adventure 3 regardless.
We already have Adventure 3. That was Heroes! It continued where Adventure 2 left off. Then there was Shadow The Hedgehog to tie up loose ends on Shadow's past and then 06 where Shadow has succeeded in leaving the past behind him by joining G.U.N. and not allowing Mephiles to manipulate him.
@@orangeslash1667 Not only is your belief that Unleashed is somehow Adventure 3 unsubstantiated, your reason for believing what you believe is ridiculously vague. For starters, Unleashed being called "Sonic World Adventure" means next to nothing. It's just a name. You seem to think Unleashed is Adventure 3 or a continuation of the Adventure series simply because the Japanese name has the word "Adventure" in it. Using your nonsensical logic, Rush Adventure is a sequel to the Adventure series. Case in point, your logic is extremely stupid. Also, Unleashed doesn't even have connections to the Adventure series in terms of its lore. Heroes, on the other hand, continues where Adventure 2's story left off in terms of what happened to Shadow after the Biolizard fight in Adventure 2. It's further evident when Sonic, Tails, Knuckles and Rouge are all shocked that Shadow is still alive, even if whether or not he's just a clone is left ambiguous until his self-entitled game. That shows that Heroes is a direct continuation of the Adventure series and can thus be considered "Adventure 3". Before calling anyone's opinion "wrong", do your research on the series and be better prepared to back up your arguments. You didn't debunk anything I said in my 3 year old comment.
@@BrokenAce1295 Wrong Sega themselves have confirmed that was the case. For prove the RUclips video is called ( top 10 facts about Yuji Naka). Sadly without Yoshihisa Hashimotto. 3d Sonic In my option is about as dead as Metal Gear.
@@orangeslash1667 Not only could I not care less what the folks at Sega say, I still see no legitimate ways Unleashed has connections to the Adventure series in terms of its lore. Unlike you, I have a mind of my own, so I don't take what a company says as the gospel truth. Playing through Unleashed as many times as I did, its lore is completely detached from the Adventure series to the point of being its own thing. That's completely different from Heroes where the connections between Adventure 2 and Heroes are blatantly evident. You still haven't given legitimate arguments on how Unleashed can be considered a continuation of the Adventure series. Just because Sega says so is not a good argument.
If the do make adventure 3, I mostly see the ones that grew up with the adventure 1 and 2 will be the reason why the game will have back lash, they'll just find lityle nit picks or changes they don't like(mostly at the chao garden) and make sure to make it feel like a bad game in general.
here's the thing about sonic 06 and boom. they were rushed titles. and because of this their overall polish and gameplay was severely bad and hurt the overall image of those titles alone. but I do have theory about the direction of the sonic games. I would like to think that the games that sega has been releasing since 06 have been experiments to make a game that is perfect in sega's eyes. one example I would like to use are the wisps. they have seemed to be reoccurring in recent sonic game and not just their debut game sonic colors. why have they been returning in back to back titles. because people like their mechanics. if anyone wants to take this theory and run with it, be my guest. I would love to see a well thought out and constructive theory on this.
Because nowadays Sega/Sonic Team,Valve Software(Gabe Newell) and Epic Games these companies CEO current chairmen(Tim Sweeney 1991-current) can't count to "3"(Sega/Sonic Team current chairman only Haruki Satomi and Takashi Iizuka).
I think that every sonic era had something better than the other,the adventure era (or dreamcast era) the had the best story, the classic era has the best controls ,and the modern era has the best looking graphics
It would be hard for the new Sonic Team to make a good Sonic Adventure 3. And for the sake of god, the Werehog was NOT a gimmick. If it was, it would've affected the gameplay of the Daytime Stages. Daytime and Nighttime Sonic have two different gameplays. It's like calling all other characters that weren't Sonic in Adventure and Adventure 2 gimmicks.
correction: they will never make a sonic adventure 4! heroes was originally going to be sa3 but because it was different from the other 2, it was named heroes
I find it funny how ppl who get angry about others calling 06 sa3 are the same ppl who call Forces generations 2
I think the only reason people called it Generations 2 for so long because it didn't have any official name. It was just "Project 2017."
neither are right or wrong. They both have official name now
Gantle_ I called it generations 2 because of similar gameplay, which would that 06 would actually be SA4 or 5
ikagura Yeah, to be honest I don't really agree with naming something what it isn't. Like if Sega really had a "Sonic Adventure 3" that's what the title would be called. But that's just my opinion.
Galaxxus Rosarrius Thank you! The jerks that insist 06 is SA3 make zero sense and what you said is definitely right. Why name a game something completely different and potentially confuse fans? Granted, this has happened in gaming and movie sequels but that usually has to already be part of the naming process. Halo is an exception but it's not a great one because Halo 5 wasn't made by the original creators. Considering how badly people want an SA3, why on Mobius would they not name an SA sequel something that will obviously gain people's attention? Naming it anything other than SA3 would mislead fans greatly; they would have to rely on trailers, gameplay reveals, and box art for the game to say "I am SA3!". That seems illogical to me. Where is the profit in that? I don't care how many times people say 06 or Unleashed or even Heroes is SA3 and Adventure fans should stop asking, no matter how much it pisses them off, *these games are NOT SA3.* I, personally, would love SA3 but I'm not going to throw a fit if it never gets made. I would even be satisfied with just a spin-off Chao Garden game. I think if anything, am SA3 would be better suited as the very last Sonic game EVER. I'm sure Sonic will have an eventual and inevitable end but in my opinion, making SA3 the send-off to an otherwise mixed bag of games for Sonic's franchise is possibly the best thing SEGA could do. It would force them to make the best damn 3D game they've ever created, or at least knowing they tried with all their heart. The high expectations would really push SEGA to really take high risks for a huge reward. In retrospect, if it turns out as a flop, it seal the fate of all those who began hating Sonic, but at least then the "torture" would stop. Of course, it would also be a sad departure if it received the highest scores of any 3D Sonic game, because no more games would be created, but I think a potential good or great last game is better than a mediocre or a crappy last game.
I don't know if SA3 will actually ever happen, whether soon or not at all, nor do I know how it will be received, but I am hopeful that such a game will bring the 3D side of things to a good place. It sounds like Mania might do that for 2D half, so an SA3 might do that too if Forces doesn't bode well with fans in the end.
Apologies for the long comment, it's just this thread got me thinking.
Ok, technically Sonic '06 can be called SA3 from a gameplay standpoint (Multiple characters in each storyline). But the reason 06 failed wasn't because of this formula. It was because the story was messy and gameplay was broken (due to rushed development).
And same with Rise of lyric that game wasn't pandered and hated because of the adventure formula, it was because of a lack-luster story and shitty gameplay broken or not.
And the main reason they won't make Adventure 3 is because people just wanted Sonic and only Sonic a few years back. So now the Adventure series is just seen as a thing of the past, to Sonic team and Sega at least.
But I get your point
Shlahberdahber 1634 Dont kill me for saying this but I think Shadow is adventure 3 since it came before 06 and it has the same gameplay style and takes place around sa2 to 06
"the Adventure series is just seen as a thing of the past" Same for the genesis games and maybe even the 3 "modern games".
I hope they could justify Mania in the continuity (or no)
David Castillo I won't, what I meant by gameplay style was how the story mode worked (having multiple storylines that showed different characters' perspective). Shadow's game had similar gameplay but the story mode worked differently, in adventure 1&2 you had multiple storylines leading up to the final story from different perspectives, Shadow's game let you choose what you wanted to be good, bad, and neutral. But in terms of direct gameplay and continuity, sure (excluding guns and vehicles).
Shlahberdahber 1634 Your right but I think Shadow is overhated
Why won't they make it?
because their scared and not confident in themselves
The Animated Gamer because fans would just compare the whole thing to adventure 2 and expect it to be almost the same thing and if sega tries a different approach just a little bit different then the game would get hated on just like sonic 4
Le Purple Spy So fans want another game with treasure hunting levels with an awful radar system and shooting stages for 90% of the game? Really? Gotta go fast gotta go fast!
Le Purple Spy So if they don't have any treasure hunting and shooting levels and if all the characters go running through the levels like the classics but,people will be mad?
Don’t forget our broken fan base 😔
@@impulse5674 exactly
I've said this before; even though I really want SA3, as long as they release good Sonic games I'll be happy
TailsPrower811
Me too
yeah
As someone who is a Sonic Adventure fan, I don't want Sega to make Sonic Adventure 3. Mostly because I don't think they can pull it off and I'm afraid that they'll fuck it up like they did with Sonic 4. Yes, I know that Sonic 4 was made by Dimps, but there were a few Sonic Team members that helped Dimps create Sonic 4 with Takashi Iizuka being one of the producers.
I may love the Sonic Adventure series to death, but even I'm aware that the Adventure games are not flawless. The biggest reason why I loved the games so much is because the way how Sonic was controlled in those games. I loved how you had full control with Sonic's movements whenever he was either running really fast or platforming. There was never a point in those games where I thought Sonic was going to fall off the edge due to his speed or when I make precise jumps. While I did enjoy the boost gameplay in Sonic Unleashed and Sonic Generations (in fact I was blown away by it when Sonic Unleashed was released), my main gripe with the gameplay is Sonic's control. Sonic moves so fast that I'm worried that I'll fall off the edge whenever I'm jumping on platform to platform. Not only that, Sonic's jumps feel somewhat stiff in those games (kinda like in Castlevania where you have no control on how precise you want your jumps to be).
This is why I'm not a huge fan of the boosting mechanic. I'm not saying that the boosting mechanic is a terrible game mechanic, even though I think the boosting ability should've been replaced with the spindash. I did enjoy it when Sonic Unleashed was released, but as time went on, I really wish I could have full control on Sonic's movements without falling off the platforms every now and then. And that's why I believe that the Adventure games captured that perfectly. Yes, Sonic 06 does play like the Sonic Adventure games, but the controls don't feel the same as the Adventure gameplay. I think somecallmejohnny explain it best in his Sonic 06 review on how Sonic's movements are too precise.
Also GamerGuyd7Aces, you are correct about Takashi Iizuka's statement. He is full of shit. He's been asked before if Sega will create Sonic Adventure 3 in interviews and panels. He even said this back in 2010 that if many Sonic fans really want Sonic Adventure 3, Sonic Team will consider making Sonic Adventure 3. Well, there is a VERY high demand for Sonic Adventure 3 and it's been almost seven years since that interview, so yeah I don't think Sonic Team will ever create Sonic Adventure 3.
As for what you said about Sega distancing themselves from the Adventure formula because of Sonic 06 and Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric, I agree with you on that. However, Sonic 06 could've been a good game if Sega took their time with the game instead of rushing the game so that it'll be release on Sonic's 15 Anniversary. Sega should've known better than to release a broken game. As for Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric, well that game was bound to be a failure from the start, considering the shit that happened behind the scenes during the development of the game. So, I won't give Big Red Button any flak for that.
I am kinda diappointed that we only got 42 seconds of gameplay footage of Sonic Forces, but I'm glad to know that you won't be able to abuse the boosting ability like you could in Sonic Unleashed and Sonic Generations. Hopefully, we'll get more information about the new character and the new gamplay mechanic very soon. Anyway, keep up with the great work, GamerGuy7Aces. Love your videos, man =).
The whole point of Sonic Unleashed is to test your gaming reflexes. After all, it's a "Action 3D platformers" and games with action have to do with the game testing your reaction time.
That's video game knowledge 101, mate. Games likes Sonic Unleashed are going to test your gaming reflexes by going easy on you on the start and then challenge you as you progress through the game. I have no problem with games testing my reflexes. I mean, I was able to beat Sonic Unleashed just fine, so it's not like my reflexes were the issue.
I just want to be able to control Sonic's movements like you could in the Adventure games. In my opinion, the Adventure games perfected on how you should control Sonic. When you start moving Sonic with the analog stick, Sonic will go slow for a few seconds and then pick up speed as you keep holding on to the analog stick to the direction on where you want Sonic to go. This helps so much because I can make precise jumps without worrying that I will fall off the platforms. I believe this is how speed and platforming should be handle in a 3D Sonic game.
Now, my main problem with Sonic's control in Sonic Unleashed is that he goes 0 to 100 really fast when you start controlling him. I have no problem controlling him when he's just blazing through stages with no platforms to interrupt my flow, but when I stop to do some basic platforming, it can be very nerve racking because I worry that Sonic might pick up speed if I'm not careful with the analog stick as I'm platforming.
My other issue with the platforming sections (and this might come off as a nitpick) is that it interrupts the flow of the game. One moment I'll be going super fast, blazing through obstacles and then next I'll be slowing down to jump some platforms, making sure that I don't fall off the edge. My problem with it is that I just want to keep going fast without losing the flow. When you have this ability to go 300 mph, you don't want to stop lol. You want to keep going until you reach the end of the goal. I don't know that might just be me though.
Anyway, like I said, the boosting formula is not a terrible game design. I still enjoy it. It's just that I prefer the Adventure formula much more than the other game mechanics that were presented in the previous Sonic games. I'm still looking forward to Sonic Forces regardless, knowing that the game is going to play like Sonic Unleashed and Sonic Generations.
This comment is not meant to dis anyones opinion or feed into the statement that "only my opinion is correct". I respect all of your opinions even if they don't match with mine, which is cool. I agree with the fact that there are the nostalgia freaks and what not. I agree with that we probably won't get an outright SA3. Which is fine, but I don't think they should have completely ditched the Adventure gameplay style. I understand their fear after 06s flop, but honestly I think that that game would have been pretty damn good and the gameplay would have been solid. Given proper time to do so and not rushed. I honestly think that game is over hated. I like it a lot, but I do understand why people don't. Some of us "Adventure Fanboys" just want a game where they actually properly revisit this gameplay style and not put there own twist on it like Lost World, or completely change it into a hack and slash like Rise of Lyric. We also want Sonic to kind of go back to the sense of cool that he had with a lot of the more serious elements and tones that this "era" (if you will) had. It looks as if Forces is kind of going back to the serious aspect of Sonic. After 06 they kinda started toning it down, and it was cool with Unleashed, but they eventually started dumbing it down and Sonic hasn't felt very...SONIC for almost a decade now. You know he always had a kind of high octane "extreme" sense of cool, and even hints of maturity and heroism. That's how his character was made. You can see it even in the classic games. Okay I understand Generations wasn't really meant to be taken too seriously in a story perspective, but I hated its interpretation of classic Sonic. They completely disregarded his staple personality and turned him into a shy fuzzy Pixar character. I'm kind of rambling now. About gameplay for Sonic. I prefer the Adventure over Boost. I like the boost, but I feel it would probably work better if treated as a mach speed kind of thing. Usually the boost games for me are kind of a "one and done" type of thing. I don't revisit them very often because the gameplay gets boring quick in my opinion and the stories were kind of dull. Besides Unleashed. The whole Adventure era thing for me is just it didn't reach its full potential. Gaming at that time wasn't exactly at its peak. 06 was inexcusable in the fact that they definitely could have made something good. Sonic then was exciting. He's been kind of drab lately. This ramble is just my opinion and nothing against anyone else's. I do think the Adventure games were some of the best 3d Sonic's ever. Were they perfect? Definitely not, but they have a lot of positives to them. I honestly would like to see the Adventure gameplay with a serious story return, but that's just me.
Chris Joseph And me too
Chris Joseph i also would love SA3. take the best aspects from 1 and 2... add aome neat power up aspects more levelz secrets chao garden. playable characters.
I know it's kinda old but I agree with you.
First is Worst
GamerGuyd7Aces
Yup
GamerGuyd7Aces ya
GamerGuyd7Aces hi I like your video and I also respect your opinions And theory's
GamerGuyd7Aces "first is worst" but you were first
Thanks!
We got SA3 already, Sonic Advance 3
Izuki 101 you sir deserve a cookie!
But that one is in 2D and doesn´t even has a Chao Garden.
But it´s still in 2D.
There´s not even Chao Race or something similar.
Izuki 101 oh yea!
Thank you guys,I didn't think people would find it funny or cool
I think calling people who want a SA3 Adventure fanboys/Dreamcast fanboys is pretty ignorant lol
People like to target Adventure fans nowadays. It's really annoying.
Karby64 The Adventure fans now are seen as how the classic fans used to be. Now classic Sonic is the big pop culture fad, and the Adventure era gets all the hate cause it's the cool thing to do.
Karby64 I think your misunderstanding him. He's not talking to people who would casually appreciate a sequel to the adventure series.
He's calling out the people who feel as if the adventure games are the only way to revive the franchise and save it from the fires of hell. He's talking to the people who ignore all of the other Sonic games that should get a sequel as much as adventure and say their all inferior. Hell, there was even fanboys bitching and complaining that Sonic Forces didn't play or look like a Sonic Adventure 3.
No he just says "Adventure fanboys or Dreamcast fanboys who want a Sonic Adventure 3"
So he's calling out people who just want SA3.
Karby64 Eh even that, you really shouldn't take it to heart. He's not even really bashing them, just making a well detailed argument addressing what Sega will or won't do. If you find it so offensive that he's speaking to the Sonic Adventure 3 fanboys then you are probably likely one of them.
Sega wants the franchise to be in a safe spot, doesn't make games that would BOOM. Like a Chao garden Spin off.
Also about these *attempts* at Adventure style games, it's Sega's fault these said game fall flat. Its pretty petty sad people try to blame the fanbase when it comes to the short comings of these *attempts*.
I think they should reboot Sonic honestly. Not like Boom but rather something like a redo of Adventure 1 and 2's story with having more modern gameplay. Basically make what 06 should had been.
better leave them remake sonic 06 instead
Game Hunter I'd actually welcome that. I can say 06 at least tried to be something great.
So pretty much destroy the gameplay of the original adventure games and just make it modern gameplay.
Well it would be better than Adventure 3 would be with the adventure gameplay. No treasure hunting stages with a horrendous radar system.
or have the game take place after adventure 2 so we can see how the characters grow more as characters like see tails become even more less depended on sonic we get to have the tails we know and love back the real tails aslo get rid of the boost formlea and have more playable characters again
I believe certain past games should be left alone while the new games have some of the mechanics from the old games with new and improved versions of it. it would make new and old gamers happy with a taste of nostalgia.
Well, obviously that's not happening.
It's about time they learned that their actions have consequences
I praised SA and SA2 for the replay ability it had. chaos. that makes the game so much better than the others because you have a valid reason to keep playing the game well into 100+ hour range. these other games, for a good portion of gamers, only offer one run through of the story mode before they put it down for good. chaos made those two games amazing.
"in my opinion you're mistaken"
people are mistaken for saying the adventure Series is the best!?
so in your opinion their opinion is wrong lol...
Well these weren't the best compared to colors and generation
ikagura opinion
Right, they were ten times superior.
@@Netherman14TheHellblazer That's an opinion. Not fact
@@SpeedMotionSamic Same to you.
We DID have Sonic Adventure 3. It was called Sonic Heroes. (seriously the plot takes place shortly after the events of adventure 2)
Shattercoin Sonic 06
Wrong it was 06. The gameplay style at least is based off adventure gameplay, but it was flawed recreation. The physics and movement was way off. There's nothing wrong the adventure playstyle, it's just 06 did it wrong.
Shattercoin Yeah but you could still make an Adventure game, slap the name on it, and continue the story through that gameplay style.
Shattercoin if that's the case then Sonic Heroes, Shadow The Hedgehog, Sonic 06 are all SA3. xD
that's what I'm saying
“Wishes are eternal.” That just means you’ll keep wishing forever.
Even tho, I would love to see a new Sonic Adventure-ish game... The Modern Unleashed/Generations game-style fits Sonic more and I had a blast with all these games. Sure, Lost World was different while somewhat tackling the adventure gameplay but was pretty fun as well... (once you get the hang of it that is. XD) So yeah... I think we as fans have to wait what Sega has in stores for us in both Mania and Forces.
i think the adventure gameplay fits sonic more its pretty much classic sonic gameplay in 3d
I am an adventure 1 fan but i don't really want a SA3 (considering how Sonic 4 went)
But i wouldn't mind having Tails and Knuckles playable again with their normal gameplay (no mech no emerald hunting)
I don't want Sonic Adventure 3.... I want an Adventure-like experience that features multiple playable characters and a story with a good mix of humor and intensity.
Sonic Forces seems to ALMOST meet that expectation with the exception of multiple playable characters because multiple versions of the same character is not what I have in mind.
There is still hope with the third gameplay style and rumors of a "new character" and it was not specifically said that ALL OF SONIC'S FRIENDS would not be playable, they only mentioned Amy, Knuckles, Team Chaotix and recently confirmed Tails as being NPC's who were present in the demo of the first level showed behind curtains.
The third gameplay style could even feature multiple characters such as Shadow who has not been confirmed (and who isn't even Sonic's "friend") as well as the new character and maybe a few others who could be playable.
My problem with Mania and Sega as a whole is that they keep shoving the past in our face too much. We like the classics and it's cool to be retro but they do it all the time. Mania should've just been all new levels not mixed with remixed levels and they already said that there will be more remixed levels than new. I like Mania and I'm not saying it's bad all I'm saying is if they do this then make it completely new levels.
They only put the classic levels in there cause saga said they had too
@@macjcb2724 This was 5 years ago lol. I know they forced them to do it but it seems they are changing that with Frontiers.
I liked You're Idea of Sonic Adventure 3 but at this point after how mediocre Sonic Forces felt I don't want Sonic Adventure 3 to happen not right now. If Sega releases Sonic Adventure 3 today there is a 70% it would end up like Duke Nukem Forever. in 1998 after the first Trailer for Duke Nukem Forever dropped there where tons of high expectations coming after Duke Nukem 3D. 3D Realms kept pushing the game back unfortunately 3D Relms went out of business and Gear Box took over for Duke Nukem Forever and Duke Nukem Forever got negative reviews. Now if Sega releases Sonic Adventure 3 and the game ends up like Duke Nukem Forever the Sonic Fanbase will go on a rampage. If Sega wants feels comfortable and wants to make Sonic Adventure 3 this is what they should do
1. Remake Sonic Adventure 1 and Sonic Adventure 2
2. Go back to the Adventure Gameplay under a different name like Sonic Revolution
3. If Sonic Revolution gets good reviews then make Sonic Adventure 3
they aslo need to bring back tails to his former glory and stop makeing him a wimp too
@@tailsprowerfan2729 I think the IDW comics kinda made Tails awesome again (look at Sonic IDW issue 21). Him getting scared in issue 29 kinda makes sense being that everyone is at their breaking point but Him being scared of Chaos after He fought Chaos 4 in SA1 kinda makes no sense
@@tailsprowerfan2729 Hi future me here, Sonic Frontiers brought Tails back to his glory
New game: Every time GamerGuyd7Aces repeats himself, take a shot.
Haloy There lol rants are usually unrehearsed
GamerGuyd7Aces no wonder I'm getting deja vu
Chao garden spinoff would be nice...that way everyone would be happy.
Jam-frog35 lol that game could be its stand alone game for phones lol
B.T.A Let's plays
Oohh, great idea!
It would be like Pokémon go except with Chao
Good I also made a comment about it
wouldnt the chaos be a reason alone for a SA3? new animals, new characters etc. i want a silver chao and a blaze chao
The fans interest in classic sonic created the fan games that eventually spawned the developers of Sonic Mania. If you want a Sonic Adventure 3, the fans will have to both show an interest and become their own developers.
This might be his first video to age poorly, dang.
Sonic adventure 3 will come, for the 30th anv
nope
Immortal_Timelord but Sonic Heroes aldeary came out...
but it makes perfect sense, for you see on the 30th sonic anv in 3/3/3003 is the perfect time for sonic adventure 3
Idk i rather want sa1 and 2 remakes than a sonic adventure 3 main reason:
Fans would hate it
@@Banana807 no I don’t think we will if we are fans of the adventure series. It’d actually be a smart route so we can see if they can even handle doing a remake
Honestly Shadow the Hedgehog is probably one of the closest things to SA3. It's a spinoff, but it follows directly after the SA2 storyline, refers to a lot of the events (and even bosses) in SA2, and is similar to the Adventure gameplay style.
While '06 is similar to SA in premise, it takes place in a different universe, thus it really isn't a sequel. From what I've seen of Heroes gameplay, it doesn't seem like the Adventure style to me, but I haven't played it so I could be wrong. Heroes does seem to have some connection to the Adventure storyline, but I don't think it's as close as Shadow is.
If '06 wasn't the nail in the coffin for Sonic Adventure 3, Rise of Lyric was.
I don't want sonic adventure 3 i want a sonic game with the adventure-stye gameplay
Sonic The Hedgehog Sooo Sonic Adventure 3??
I just want Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 remade with This engine. Possibly for the 30th anniversary or a bit earlier
But SA3 already exists. It's called Sonic Advance 3.
what about a remaster of the original 2 adventures games, but fixed, i mean the crash bandicoot nsane trilogy was a success in europe even tho the game doesn't offer any new games or levels, the only difference is you can play with coco some crash stages but coco's gameplay is just the same as crash so.
a remaster would be good
Rex67Diego9 fandub Remove big the cat,add more sonic and shadow levels and remove MADSPACE and make better voice acting,lip syncing,same if not better artstyle. Not modern sonic artstyle.
I honestly hope we finally get a Sonic Adventure 3, and for Iizuka to retire from Sonic Team. We need Yuji Naka back as the head of Sonic Team. Maybe he'll be the one that gives us a Sonic Adventure 3. And if we do get a Sonic Adventure 3 in the future, I'd want it to take place immediately after Sonic Adventure 2, and have 2 post-credit scenes leading up to Sonic Heroes. And the main villain for an SA3 would have to be another hedgehog.
SuperSonicWarrior93 I don’t know if that’s a good idea
I miss Yuji Naka :,(
i dunno man
doesn't sound like a good idea
Federico Arrojo Not unless if they get the right people to make it.
Blue Aero Unless the right people work on it.
As curious as I am about the 3rd Playstyle in forces, I'm more curious about how classic Sonic's gameplay is gonna be since it'll be slightly different than in generations. But about Sonic Adventure 3, It'd be cool to have one in the future, but the big problem would be all the hype surrounding it, and if something is/isn't in the game, people are gonna get disappointed. If they added wisps, a lot of the hype would really die down and no one would be looking forward to it, like how some of the hype started to die down for sonic forces once people discovered wisps were gonna be in it (There's other reasons but still). And if the story isn't up to par/better than adventure 1&2, people would start hating it (to me people who play sonic games just for the story also pour milk before the cereal)
There will never be a Sonic Adventure 3 because it would require actual effort from the dev team.
So right now I am currently working on a Sonic adventure 3 fan game with a friend of mind as are first game. So far, we have almost completed the story and getting ready to recreate Sonic physic's from SA1 and SA2, with the best of both elements and new elements to improve gameplay. I don't expect it to come but if I were to guest SAGE 2019 ? If you have any recommendations please put a comment down. I can't wait until our game comes out to soon. PS: just for a teaser, Tails' Story would be your favorite because it is one very unique story! #all sonic content are own by Sega. # original idea do not steal.
Since it's Shin Nakamura of Unleashed and 06 fame, I get the feeling that the Third Gameplay style is going to be a much more fleshed-out Werehog type game style. with faster, more frantic combos, weapons and the potential to allow other characters to be playable. it might even try to rival Devil May Cry.
unless they get platinum on board in which case where in the green.
what if instead of looking at the games in comparison we just look at the series as a whole?
"oh this is after that so the time line says this and this must be"
"oh hey theres another sonic game out"
which sounds more appealing?
Good commentary +GamerGuyd7Aces
If you don't mind me asking, where did you get that info about classic Sonic in Forces? Just curious.
Wikipedia, which was a source taken from an article on GameInformer. And thanks! :)
Wasn't Classic Sonic The Default Playable Character In Mania
i personally loved the sonic adventure 2 and the chaos i never put as many hours into a sonic game as i did when thwy had the chaos i a ranked every level for the emblems to get more colored chaos and i would replay levels over and over again collect enough rings to buy more stuff for the chaos or new chao eggs i even replayed levels to collect chao drives and animals to raise my chaos i never replayed any sonic game as much as i did sonic adventure 2 for me what makes me feel like i enjoyed a game is replayabliitly ive beaten sonic 1,2,3 and sonic and knuckles at least once or twice each and feel no reason to replay any of these ones to me i definetly have fun with sonic games but feel like video game consols have come so far being fast is not enough to make a good sonic game and that if games are going to do well in this day and age it needs replayabliitly to do great
Loner The Clown honestwy i cant say i bwam chu about the choa 😆 tey are soo adorable i put suuuuu much time intu raising the choa infact i spent more hours intu the choa garden ten the story itself 😁 anyway chyep my fav. sonic was S.A 2 nu doubt
what?
I'm an Adventure fan and I already know we would never get Sonic Adventure 3 and with how Sonic Team and SEGA currently are, I DO NOT trust them to make another Adventure game
Such optimism!
I don't like the classic games as much. Don't get me wrong, they're really good games. But the 3D games (Adventure games. Modern Sonic Games for the most part are hold X to win.) are way more fun in my opinion.
If they could make a Sonic Adventure 3 it would be cool if they had a new game for every version of Sonic Classic what you already happened Adventure who didn't get to a appear in generations and the modern Sonic
my sister looooooves the chao garden
Sonic Adventure 3 should have all running levels but,when you beat the game you could play a mode where you play as robotnik and you use different machines and the missions are to destroy Sonic.
If Sonic '4' was called something else, it would have received better and have more of that kind of game (I.E. New Super Mario).
Me, hearing him speculating on Sonic Forces: Honey, you’ve got a big storm coming!
Another discussion video or rant.
Me: I think the second option
well he was definitely right about the "anytime soon" part
8:00 it was made by bigredbutton
I heard one of the creators of Sonic The Hedgehog wants to make an SA3 but since there going for new players they might make a spin-off of the adventure series.
People hated sonic 4 because the level design was bad and they were all copy’s of previous stages but worse. Mania is loved because it has great level designs, physics and improves upon previous level types
If Lost World were the in only Sonic game in 4-5 years, the franchise wouldn't bee in this situation.
Sega is also afraid of taking back the adventure formula because of sonic lost world, many ppl didn't. like that game, but it brought back a little bit of the adventure formula
Bad take 5 year old comment
What about fusing both adventure and boost gameplay?
For the love of science stop saying "You Know". No, we don't, that's why we're here, explain it to us.
Sorry lol. It's a speaking habit of mine that I'm trying to stop
Nintendo made an spiritual sequel to Mario 64 and Sunshine, why can't SEGA make Sonic Adventure 3?
Pixel Attack Galaxy was the spiritual sucesor if you mean Odyssey. And Nintendo is Nintendo, they make good games with the ,,if it aint Broken, dont fix it" moto. Also sega lost the big man behind sonic with 06.
Lemme explain, Sonic Games are always different because Sonic Team isnt really allowed to do games other than sonic while Miyamoto and co can try their ideas with their other franchises. I mean, it took the Taxman and stealth to fix classic sonic, who should do 3d sonic then? Sure there are great fangames, but their aint a 3d sonic taxman
Sonic Unleashed/World Adventure: Am I A Joke to you?
Who thinks that sonic 4 should have been called sonic modern mix
We actually have SA3, Its the good old Sonic 06.
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The adventure series are my fav games but im pretty contempt if they release good sonic games the only sonic games I actually dislike are shadow, boom rise of lyric and lost world so ill be happy with anything as long as its good, and yes sonic 06 isn't good I just enjoy breaking the game with the gems to see what I can glitch through theres joy to be had though.
Well the chap garden is the icing on the cake I love the adventure games cause of the character and I remember I had fun fishing with big the cat I am gonna replay the games soon see if it still is fun.
the thing is sonic unleashed was supposed to be sonic adventure 3 it was it's codename but overtime sonic team focused on sonic gameplay then scrapped it and made sonic world advanture (which is unleashed)
and that was a very bad idea
listen , idc what fake Sega fans say I will still love Sega no matter what! , sonic was my childhood life
Actual fanboy
Just make sonic adventure 3 with sonic, tails, and knuckles modes from adventure 1. But make tails have his seperate cutscenes so his charafter arc is unique. No more robot supersuit shit.
Look at SEGA now
how hard could it possibly be to make a game with like 3 different campaigns. 8-10 playable characters with a mission select screen like SA2 and a halfway decent story, and like 30 missions or so? sonic, tails, knuckles amy, shadow, rouge, eggman, silver, blaze,cream, omega, and possibly even emeril. cmon man it would be nice if they nail it right and give every character a good amount of missions and a chao garden.
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No there gonna ruin it plus why would silver and shadow and blaze be in SA3 so if they do Sonic 5 there gonna put in like idk Rouge or Omega or Silver?
Only if Sega were still making consoles would we see a SA3. It would have been fitting after all, to have a Dreamcast trilogy alongside the Genesis trilogy. But alas, the Dreamcast was not meant to last long enough.
if sonic adventure 3 came out it would have amazing cgi like sonic unleashed. (i really hope it comes out.)
and the graphics will be like sonic unleashed. also it will have silver involved. and the story and game will not be as bad.
Same goes for sonic heroes 2 ?
I'm guessing classic Sonic gameplay will be will be 2.5D since they said it won't be exactly the same as the classic games.
I don’t understand why people think the classics are so great other than nostalgia. I mean you’re always hitting road blocks and having to slow down, there’s no variety unless you count the special stages, which are always a grind nightmare (especially sonic 2) and once again, how many times have you been punished for going fast? I can’t count how many times I was slammed into an enemy that was just off screen, or I hit a spring sending me back and making me slow down and redo my steps, being careful not to hit the spring. And having to memorize a stage to correct that and actually enjoy the stage isn’t a sign of good gameplay.
I Think Sonic Heroes is Adventure 3 Without a FULL Chao Garden (though it has funtionallity with sonic advance's chao gardeb)
My 11 Reasons____________________
• It Was The Next Main Sonic Game After SA2Battle
• If You Think about it... Heroes has a "3" Gimmick Simply Added to The Adventure Formula. Coincedence, I Think NOT!
• It Has Alot of Playable Characters
• It Has The Adventure/PREMIUM Voice Cast (Ryan Drummond Ect.)
• It Has a FULLY Crush 40 Soundtrack!
(Ever Since 06, Crush 40 Has Only Had 1 or even NO Songs in Sonic Soundtracks. They're an Adventure Staple)
• O M O C H A O
• Tails is Somewhat Useful. (In The 4Kids Era [2005-2009] Tails Often Wasn't There. In the DARK/Pontaff Era [2010-NOW] The Writer Made Tails almost As More Useless As Their Sonic Writing)
• It Has The SAME Emblems & Ranking from SA1DX & SA2Battle
• It Has a 2D (ish) Front Cover. [The Cover is Painted to Look Like The Models.
• It Was Gonna Be Called SA3 But SEGA Was Worried Peoplw Would Think They HAVE TO Play SA1 & SA2 To Understand This One When They Don't.
• The PC Port is T R A S H
we have sa3.....big's big fishing
So uhhh wheres Sonics next "Adventure" Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles mentions in heroes?
wait. about that statement about classic. will be different from his strictly 2D gameplay. STRICTLY 2D. 3D classic??
didn't someone already make an argument that *shadow the Hedgehog* was the SA3? 😕
i laugh at the fact that it says "classic sonic might not be strictly 2d"
Classic and adventure vs spin-offs and modern who wins
04:35 technically Super Mario World should be called Super Mario Bros 4 but they choose Super Mario world for some reason
If they make Sonic Adventure 3 They wont call it that because if they made a bad Sonic game with that name it would get even more hate than normally, its a risk theyre not gonna take.
So if they do make it, we wont know that that was theyre goal and we will still ask for Adventure 3 regardless.
Remember when Sonic 06 was called Sonic Adventure 3 by fans?😭
But if we ask the heck out of them, you never know :o
P Films while in the process of possibly making Sa3 could be possibly cancelled
We already have Adventure 3. That was Heroes! It continued where Adventure 2 left off. Then there was Shadow The Hedgehog to tie up loose ends on Shadow's past and then 06 where Shadow has succeeded in leaving the past behind him by joining G.U.N. and not allowing Mephiles to manipulate him.
Wrong its Sonic Unleashed because its called Sonic world Adventure in Japan.
@@orangeslash1667 Not only is your belief that Unleashed is somehow Adventure 3 unsubstantiated, your reason for believing what you believe is ridiculously vague. For starters, Unleashed being called "Sonic World Adventure" means next to nothing. It's just a name. You seem to think Unleashed is Adventure 3 or a continuation of the Adventure series simply because the Japanese name has the word "Adventure" in it. Using your nonsensical logic, Rush Adventure is a sequel to the Adventure series. Case in point, your logic is extremely stupid. Also, Unleashed doesn't even have connections to the Adventure series in terms of its lore. Heroes, on the other hand, continues where Adventure 2's story left off in terms of what happened to Shadow after the Biolizard fight in Adventure 2. It's further evident when Sonic, Tails, Knuckles and Rouge are all shocked that Shadow is still alive, even if whether or not he's just a clone is left ambiguous until his self-entitled game. That shows that Heroes is a direct continuation of the Adventure series and can thus be considered "Adventure 3". Before calling anyone's opinion "wrong", do your research on the series and be better prepared to back up your arguments. You didn't debunk anything I said in my 3 year old comment.
@@BrokenAce1295 Wrong Sega themselves have confirmed that was the case. For prove the RUclips video is called ( top 10 facts about Yuji Naka). Sadly without Yoshihisa Hashimotto. 3d Sonic In my option is about as dead as Metal Gear.
@@orangeslash1667 Not only could I not care less what the folks at Sega say, I still see no legitimate ways Unleashed has connections to the Adventure series in terms of its lore. Unlike you, I have a mind of my own, so I don't take what a company says as the gospel truth. Playing through Unleashed as many times as I did, its lore is completely detached from the Adventure series to the point of being its own thing. That's completely different from Heroes where the connections between Adventure 2 and Heroes are blatantly evident. You still haven't given legitimate arguments on how Unleashed can be considered a continuation of the Adventure series. Just because Sega says so is not a good argument.
Did you honestly just say that sonic 4 was not even close to being a bad game? It was really all just because of the name?
If the do make adventure 3, I mostly see the ones that grew up with the adventure 1 and 2 will be the reason why the game will have back lash, they'll just find lityle nit picks or changes they don't like(mostly at the chao garden) and make sure to make it feel like a bad game in general.
Sa 2 is not the last choa garden theres sonic Chronicles from what I know as the latest
here's the thing about sonic 06 and boom. they were rushed titles. and because of this their overall polish and gameplay was severely bad and hurt the overall image of those titles alone. but I do have theory about the direction of the sonic games. I would like to think that the games that sega has been releasing since 06 have been experiments to make a game that is perfect in sega's eyes. one example I would like to use are the wisps. they have seemed to be reoccurring in recent sonic game and not just their debut game sonic colors. why have they been returning in back to back titles. because people like their mechanics. if anyone wants to take this theory and run with it, be my guest. I would love to see a well thought out and constructive theory on this.
Sonic heroes is sa3
I got one thing to say...............everyone said the same thing about the Final Fantasy 7 Remake.
Because nowadays Sega/Sonic Team,Valve Software(Gabe Newell) and Epic Games these companies CEO current chairmen(Tim Sweeney 1991-current) can't count to "3"(Sega/Sonic Team current chairman only Haruki Satomi and Takashi Iizuka).
I think that every sonic era had something better than the other,the adventure era (or dreamcast era) the had the best story, the classic era has the best controls ,and the modern era has the best looking graphics
5:34 whats the name of the song?
It's basically a remix of Sylvania Castle Act 1 music from Sonic 4 ep 2
Every sonic game have no expectation
and here we are in 2022 getting sonic frontiers lol , its not SA3 but its adventure style for sure
It would be hard for the new Sonic Team to make a good Sonic Adventure 3.
And for the sake of god, the Werehog was NOT a gimmick. If it was, it would've affected the gameplay of the Daytime Stages.
Daytime and Nighttime Sonic have two different gameplays.
It's like calling all other characters that weren't Sonic in Adventure and Adventure 2 gimmicks.
tails knuckals and shaodw were going to be playable characters with there own stroys in sonic unlahsed
correction: they will never make a sonic adventure 4! heroes was originally going to be sa3 but because it was different from the other 2, it was named heroes
Ice is Nice that's cool cuz hero's reminded me of sa
sonic adventure 3 is coming out next year it will be called Sonic Adventure Origins