Souness & Jordan Claim Martial Is Symbolic Of All That's Been WRONG At Man United For A Decade 🤦‍♂️😡

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  • What's going wrong at Manchester United? talkSPORT's Jim White, Simon Jordan and Graeme Souness discuss.
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  • @paulrobson4843
    @paulrobson4843 6 месяцев назад +48

    I'm a Toon fan that was at match on Saturday, Man Utd warmed up right in front of me and my son, I witnessed Rashford putting zero effort in to do the exercises compared to the others. Steve McLaren was overlooking the warm ups but never pulled him up.

    • @DSAVAGE92
      @DSAVAGE92 6 месяцев назад +6

      @@JordiBoy_don’t rate McLaren as a top coach or anything but massively disagree he’s “embarrassing”, he won the Eredivisie with Twente and took Middlesbrough to a league cup win and UEFA cup final. Absolutely monstrous feats considering the size of clubs.

  • @jackroberts1583
    @jackroberts1583 6 месяцев назад +183

    Can’t disagree with Souness. How some of those players are still there is beyond me. Rashford doesn’t know how lucky he is and he’s moping about

    • @Meleftnut
      @Meleftnut 6 месяцев назад +24

      You would think rashford had the upbringing dele had the way he acts like the world is against him on 350 bags a week

    • @celsocosta880
      @celsocosta880 6 месяцев назад +4

      Football is a team game and for those 2 🤡🤡 to single out 1 player is a disgrace 💩💩💩

    • @sagarranjan4585
      @sagarranjan4585 6 месяцев назад +14

      He has definitely joined some free mason group. Too many tattoos. Too much PR. Shambolic body language😂

    • @ryanmichael7795
      @ryanmichael7795 6 месяцев назад +14

      ​@@Meleftnutand yet when he hits any vein of form hes talked about as the best player on the planet. If utd moved him on i genuinely wouldnt be bothered

    • @Meleftnut
      @Meleftnut 6 месяцев назад +11

      @@celsocosta880 they singled out bruno for always moaning when rashford does it worse and more slyly

  • @MH-vp7lf
    @MH-vp7lf 6 месяцев назад +83

    Martial, Rashford both as bad but obviously the foreign player will get most of the stick.
    Get rid of both sick and tired of them

    • @likesport881
      @likesport881 6 месяцев назад +10

      3rd and 4th highest earners at the club 😂
      The 2 laziest players.

    • @thecommie739
      @thecommie739 6 месяцев назад +3

      ​​@@Redvil01at least he works hard

    • @jemimallah2591
      @jemimallah2591 6 месяцев назад

      thats...complete pish? rashford has got far more stick than martial because hes english, martial has just been hanging around for god only knows how many years and no one is like "OH ITS AN OUTRAGE" because hes french (and has hardly ever been a fixture of the french national team anyway)

    • @TheLastAngryMan01
      @TheLastAngryMan01 5 месяцев назад

      Rashford has scored twice as many goals as Martial and been in the senior squad a similar length of time.

    • @Llihor
      @Llihor 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@TheLastAngryMan01he's an insult to every number 10 in football. You don't get to wear a united shirt #10 and be under worker

  • @bilal00276
    @bilal00276 6 месяцев назад +135

    The fact Martial is still at the club is absolutely mind boggling. As an Arsenal fan, we've seen our fair share of bad eggs but theyve been removed swiftly. Even if it cost us in the short term.

    • @F--B
      @F--B 6 месяцев назад +7

      Took you 5 years to move Lacazette on, so not sure what you're on about.

    • @arminius6506
      @arminius6506 6 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@F--Bdude your MU guys are worse than cult, Arsenal never hit rock bottom like you and they were humble in defeat

    • @F--B
      @F--B 6 месяцев назад

      @@arminius6506 I'm a toon fan.

    • @enod9746
      @enod9746 6 месяцев назад +3

      Five stars for you. I simply cannot believe Antony Martial is still in this club.

    • @ablez2009
      @ablez2009 6 месяцев назад +3

      @@arminius6506didn’t arsenal finish 8th a few years ago? Lowest united finish was 7th one season, so factually you hit lower than united. Just saying

  • @philiph99
    @philiph99 6 месяцев назад +171

    Thought yesterday's coverage on Sky Sports was the epitome of Manchester Uniteds downfall.
    Keane was referring to how second place now is seen as a great achievement and how the modern players have an appalling workrate.
    Meanwhile Micah was talking about the "vibes" of the club are affecting Rashford.
    I'll always remember Cr7s interview where he questioned the mentality of the clubs young players referring specifically to Sancho and Rashford. At 19 Cristiano was a man, along with Rooney.
    As Mournho said before about this lot "I now have to adapt to what young players are. At 23 Lampard was man. Young players aren't men these days, they're brats"

    • @joshieboi8ktv
      @joshieboi8ktv 6 месяцев назад +18

      Wow talking about hitting the nail on the head there snowflakes these days sad 2 see 😢😢

    • @MH-vp7lf
      @MH-vp7lf 6 месяцев назад +15

      Keane even said sometimes winning just the league title wasn't enough we wanted multiple trophies every season
      from that to today where if united scrape to top 4 it's a huge achievement

    • @zosiazaremba7479
      @zosiazaremba7479 6 месяцев назад +7

      This is just unfair. Not all young players are brats, but for some reason Man United attracts those who are. The fans wondered why Ferguson didn't want to give Pogba any gametime and would rather bring Scholes out of retirement instead. Well, now we know why.
      Even at Spurs, think about Udogie, Van De Ven, Porro, Sarr, Johnson and especially Kulusevski. All of those players are starting for Tottenham, performing consistently, they are all younger than Rashford and earn much less than him. And they aren't "brats" in any sense.

    • @Smokey2Mc
      @Smokey2Mc 6 месяцев назад +14

      Rashford off the pitch is always posing like he's a rapper covered in diamonds, posing like a superstar. His head is away in the clouds, multi millionaire who has a God like complex, totally dillusional.

    • @Woze899
      @Woze899 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@Smokey2Mcno one asked mate,the comment concerns on Keane👍

  • @rokana9641
    @rokana9641 6 месяцев назад +150

    Why Martial is still a United player is also beyond me. Puzzling!

    • @bc0125
      @bc0125 6 месяцев назад +11

      Paying overhyped players a lot of money to sit around is the Man U way

    • @billytheyid626
      @billytheyid626 6 месяцев назад +10

      Because you pay him so much you cant get rid.

    • @davidpetitetoopageofficiel3088
      @davidpetitetoopageofficiel3088 6 месяцев назад +4

      Why is Rashford?

    • @likesport881
      @likesport881 6 месяцев назад +5

      Seriously just sell 10 players ffs.
      They are so bad at their job honestly.
      They just need to go.

    • @burnaardnufc3173
      @burnaardnufc3173 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@likesport881 Sell to who?

  • @lxldny
    @lxldny 6 месяцев назад +220

    When Liverpool legends feel bad for United that's rock bottom.

    • @davidburns6681
      @davidburns6681 6 месяцев назад +15

      Its called telling the truth

    • @celsocosta880
      @celsocosta880 6 месяцев назад +4

      Victor Lindelöf why no one is talking about this WEEK player???

    • @neilshaw3055
      @neilshaw3055 6 месяцев назад +1

      Social media FC

    • @effortlessGFX
      @effortlessGFX 6 месяцев назад +4

      This ain’t rock bottom. They’ll fall further.

    • @Woze899
      @Woze899 6 месяцев назад

      You not that smart

  • @raddysrants8407
    @raddysrants8407 6 месяцев назад +101

    I think Rashford is more symbolic of the decline, acceptance and reward of mediocrity.

    • @Alexander-sv2wq
      @Alexander-sv2wq 6 месяцев назад

      Rashford is finished no working back to help ☹️ KEEP OUT OF POLITICS 🤮

    • @BC-th3mx
      @BC-th3mx 5 месяцев назад +1

      He’s British so you know he wouldn’t impugn him

  • @robzombie5928
    @robzombie5928 6 месяцев назад +44

    You pick Rashford and Martial your playing with 9 men before a ball is kicked.

  • @alexmulugeta9582
    @alexmulugeta9582 6 месяцев назад +36

    Correction Rashford is symbolic of everything wrong with our football club BUT we know Martial is the easiest target!!

    • @nizznecta2773
      @nizznecta2773 6 месяцев назад +8

      Thanks u the English lads gets a pass I saw martial pressing and rashford just walked but its all on tony

  • @kevinlawrence2849
    @kevinlawrence2849 6 месяцев назад +15

    Glad rashford being called out been saying it for years his rubbish,how he gets into the man u and England team is beyond me.

  • @lodersracing
    @lodersracing 6 месяцев назад +69

    If you rely on Martial you get what you deserve. Absolutely nothing.

    • @tomeskdale2642
      @tomeskdale2642 6 месяцев назад +4

      He must be absolutely world class in training.

    • @trident8480
      @trident8480 6 месяцев назад +1

      They gave him a ballondor clause in his contract allowed the player too think he's better than he is

    • @ste4392
      @ste4392 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@tomeskdale2642it's because Hojlund is injured

    • @jrn2121
      @jrn2121 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@tomeskdale2642he could have been a world beater. An ENORMOUS waste of talent. He and Pogba, total waste. Rashford is rapidly heading down that path. Funny thing, I think Martial significantly more gifted than Rashford, like not even close. It’s pathetic, really.

  • @waleabiodun5788
    @waleabiodun5788 6 месяцев назад +17

    Martial was loaned out to Sevilla last year and practically hawked him to all of Europe for peanuts yet nobody batted an eyelid. That's all you need to know about this waste of a player.
    That he plays for United is damning for the manager and the club hierarchy. Shambles from top to bottom

    • @flemfleming3149
      @flemfleming3149 6 месяцев назад

      Not damning on the manager or the club hierarchy. It is damning on the Glazer who insisted his contract was renewed four years ago.

    • @rashidkhalid3970
      @rashidkhalid3970 6 месяцев назад

      Big clubs don't need him smaller clubs like brenford Brighton palace wolves etc can use recruitment to find a quality potential players

    • @TheLastAngryMan01
      @TheLastAngryMan01 5 месяцев назад

      Villarreal lost interest as soon as they heard about his obscene wage demands.

  • @achuthp.k4567
    @achuthp.k4567 6 месяцев назад +65

    The moment fans and board sided with Pogba's rebellion against José , the downfall of Man United began. Things went to downhill ever since. Players became egoistic brats, recruitment strategy became piss poor. Even CR7 fell into this mud. Alas

    • @tevildo45
      @tevildo45 6 месяцев назад

      Jose was a fraud at man united

    • @AJ-xv7oh
      @AJ-xv7oh 6 месяцев назад +7

      Absolutely. The fans deserve everything they've got.

    • @F--B
      @F--B 6 месяцев назад +6

      Fans still defend Pogba and his ilk to this day.

    • @edmondkelly8067
      @edmondkelly8067 6 месяцев назад +1

      Don't blame pogba again look elsewhere I think Manchester United not good enough as club at this moment you are leaving in pass

    • @ath7616
      @ath7616 6 месяцев назад

      Very true

  • @GMulls94
    @GMulls94 6 месяцев назад +33

    It isn't just Martial, it's the whole lot of them. Utd have been useless at getting rid of players that clearly aren't good enough.

    • @mejust8392
      @mejust8392 6 месяцев назад

      Yeah we know. Nobody in the world is good enough for MU except ETH and you yourself.

    • @JohnKerr-bq3vo
      @JohnKerr-bq3vo 6 месяцев назад +2

      contracts and high wages are a double whammy... means players dont have to perform and also makes it difficult to get rid of them....

    • @dookula
      @dookula 6 месяцев назад

      Hag is lousy too. Get rid

  • @bc0125
    @bc0125 6 месяцев назад +45

    I don’t know how but it seems Paul Pogba might be at fault here

    • @PapaTube-ep1nk
      @PapaTube-ep1nk 6 месяцев назад

      Thank the Lord someone said this as about Martial and Rashford as they hung on as kids to Pogbas every word an his shirt, sneaking off to Dubai on jollies, disco dancing in the gym, Pogba ruined the work rate culture at United influenced too many youngsters at United with his abysmal work rate attitude.

  • @mugayamoses8786
    @mugayamoses8786 6 месяцев назад +17

    Sounness is spot on about Rashford and Martial

  • @jmy1974
    @jmy1974 6 месяцев назад +17

    Rashford gets a free pass as usual

    • @NOBODY-cn6fj
      @NOBODY-cn6fj 6 месяцев назад +1

      Leave him alone he gets immigrants free dinners !! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @jhpfdijtuiweruot
      @jhpfdijtuiweruot 6 месяцев назад +2

      No he didn't. Did you even watch it? Lol

    • @mcharrisment4765
      @mcharrisment4765 6 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@NOBODY-cn6fj😂😂😂😂

    • @jmy1974
      @jmy1974 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@jhpfdijtuiweruot if rashford wasn’t British, he’d be given the pogba treatment

  • @bordercollie1140
    @bordercollie1140 6 месяцев назад +50

    Wouldn't take Martial on a free and on no wages, absolutely horrible attitude.

    • @davidpetitetoopageofficiel3088
      @davidpetitetoopageofficiel3088 6 месяцев назад +3

      But you will take rashford

    • @likesport881
      @likesport881 6 месяцев назад +5

      Now you said it. United think they were the best giving out the high wages.
      Then you get the classic Gareth Bale syndrome. Players sit on butts as they have too much money anyway, won't leave to get paid less and its chronic

    • @denismuriithi267
      @denismuriithi267 6 месяцев назад

      Bad idea,lose for the club and Glazers

    • @JohnKerr-bq3vo
      @JohnKerr-bq3vo 6 месяцев назад +1

      outstanding at Sevilla.. I dont thnk! haha

  • @wayflex1
    @wayflex1 6 месяцев назад +32

    All the managers can’t be wrong,it’s the mindset

    • @biggy3rd
      @biggy3rd 6 месяцев назад

      Except Ange is proving that wrong at Spurs. The same Bissouma that couldn't get a game under Conte has been one of the best midfielder/ players in the league this season.

    • @wayflex1
      @wayflex1 6 месяцев назад

      Very very early days for Ange at spurs and spurs are not under the same expectations as Manchester United but it is always great to see a new manager get off to a good start

    • @notfirstyourlast
      @notfirstyourlast 6 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@biggy3rdBisouma has been there for 1 year. Not 10. But i agree to the extent that Ange does get more out of them. Dont forget he also binned quite a few players as well. ETH had no choice but to depend on Martial as up to now he hasnt had another option.

  • @MrUmpalumpa99
    @MrUmpalumpa99 6 месяцев назад +6

    Martial has hardly played this year yet there are videos now slating him yet Rashford has been putting in shocking performances all season, plays every game yet the media barely say a word. Pathetic

    • @leepatrick9432
      @leepatrick9432 6 месяцев назад

      You obviously didn't just listen to this video

  • @christopherjones7098
    @christopherjones7098 6 месяцев назад +11

    The glaziers wanted to keep martial. What chance do the managers stand

  • @talksense2day
    @talksense2day 6 месяцев назад +36

    Mourinho tried his best to move Martial and Pogba along. He tried to get proven winners in, and again, the Board didn't allow it. Now the rest of the squad is showing similar attitude as all it takes is one poison apple. Ten Hag is not the man for this job and Utd are now stuck again with a bad situation.

    • @macoooos9204
      @macoooos9204 6 месяцев назад +6

      Jose saw exactly what needed doing but Ed Woodward was more worried about offending Pogba's Twittwe fans.

    • @tevildo45
      @tevildo45 6 месяцев назад +2

      Jose failed at man united and Real Madrid. Stop making excuses

    • @AJ-xv7oh
      @AJ-xv7oh 6 месяцев назад +4

      @@tevildo45 And you've failed at knowing even a single thing about football.

    • @statesoccer
      @statesoccer 6 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@tevildo45Jose is the one that one Europa League with Man united ? Finish 2nd with a similar squad?

    • @jonnyhull7860
      @jonnyhull7860 6 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@tevildo45jose won 2 cups at united ueafa cup,and league cup and finished 2nd ,won league and copa del rey at real hardly failing is it 😂😂

  • @suffern63
    @suffern63 6 месяцев назад +6

    I live in Spain and the fans at virtually every club,not just Real Madrid,would turn on players like Marcial and make it impossible for him to wear the shirt again.Loyalty works both ways and when fans see players not giving 100 percent then they should let that player know what they think.

  • @cybaboots
    @cybaboots 6 месяцев назад +7

    People don't realize how important Marc Overmars was to Erik Ten Haag

  • @paulorganisation1
    @paulorganisation1 6 месяцев назад +7

    Rashford is really lucky he has a good team in the bsckground because let's be honest, his career could have ended like welbeck, walcott etc

    • @randomguyzsz3161
      @randomguyzsz3161 6 месяцев назад

      Both of them actually played decent football unlike rashford who is just so one dimensional.

  • @starshapedtambourineman
    @starshapedtambourineman 6 месяцев назад +15

    Im not a United fan, far from it.
    Credit where credit is due....
    But I actually feel Maguire deserves some praise at the minute, hes stepped back in against a wall of criticism, won his place back and is, arguably, their best player atm.
    Some other players could take a leaf out of that book.

    • @jhpfdijtuiweruot
      @jhpfdijtuiweruot 6 месяцев назад +3

      Maguire was never the problem. The internet campaign against the guy was seriously deranged.

    • @airfixx_8952
      @airfixx_8952 6 месяцев назад +3

      @@jhpfdijtuiweruot - Spoiled toxic Man U fans doing spoiled toxic things. I'm 'shocked'.

    • @fearlessformidableferociou8623
      @fearlessformidableferociou8623 6 месяцев назад +2

      Maguire always seems to be at the wrong place at the wrong time

    • @tevildo45
      @tevildo45 6 месяцев назад +3

      I’m sorry but maguire has been terrible for years at man united. He’s played a handful of good games and all of a sudden he’s franz beckenbaur

    • @jhpfdijtuiweruot
      @jhpfdijtuiweruot 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@tevildo45 No he has NOT. We comfortably won the vast majority of games he played last season under Ten Hag, with lots of clean sheets, and he was the only player who bothered turning up for work under Ragnick (Pogba, Ronaldo, Cavani, Lingard, Varane all ran away). The season before that he was arguably our best player, we finished 2nd behind City, and it was roundly recognised that Maguires absence in the final was the reason why we didn't win the Europa Cup. You are living in a fantasyland that has no bearing on the factual reality

  • @seanyrobbo1
    @seanyrobbo1 6 месяцев назад +11

    Yes we've got a lot of overhyped overpaid players who are past it or not good enough, but that's not the problem. The real issue is we seem to force playing these same failures week in week out. Insanity is repeating the game mistakes over and over and expecting a different outcome. So if that's a board decision then that sums up our club right now. But if not, Ten Hag should be dropping the likes of Rashford, Martial, Antony, Dalot should be getting dropped for younger players like Pellestri, Gore, Forsson, Aaroen, Hughill, Fish. Players like Garnacho, Mainoo and Pellestri are great examples of that working.

  • @sibusisoenockcebekhulu9318
    @sibusisoenockcebekhulu9318 6 месяцев назад +12

    Genuinely happy to see Sounnes 😂

  • @davidjones1619
    @davidjones1619 6 месяцев назад +2

    Martial must be french for " I just stroll around for 90 minutes", 😢

  • @megryan808
    @megryan808 6 месяцев назад +5

    Mourinho tried to get Woodward to sell him but they gave him a new contract. He was right about a lot of players in that squad

  • @AJ-xv7oh
    @AJ-xv7oh 6 месяцев назад +3

    Rashford, Martial, Sancho, Fernandes. Start with them four and things will instantly improve. They need to go!

  • @sparktom5841
    @sparktom5841 6 месяцев назад +2

    Such an easy target man, pick on Maguire who can’t play out from the back and invites pressure, mctominay who hides from the ball, and lazy rashford, always the lads from over seas who get targeted

  • @highnoon7097
    @highnoon7097 6 месяцев назад +7

    The fundamental problem with United and our fanbase is that if a young player has a decent debut, the fans get carried away and just assume we have a world class talent. Martial scored against Liverpool so the fans immediately thought he was mint, even taking massive personal offence at the headline "50m down the drain" even though that was exactly what it was.
    Same for Rashford. He had a fairy tale debut season scoring on numerous debuts, but it was obvious from day one that he was limited in his talent. The fans also got well too carried away with "left foot right foot" Greenwood (even though he was dogshit on his right foot). They're doing it AGAIN with Hojlund (Mark Goldbridge "look... he's a superstar") and Mainoo, who has looked composed for an 18 year old but realistically hasn't done anything that Fred couldn't do (and we all wanted him out).
    The fans need to stop christening these unknown quantities as world class players in the making. It causes a surge in media coverage, sales in merchandise etc and this leads to the club panicking over these bang average players and putting them on massive contracts so we can't shift them. We're stuck with Rashford when the opportunity was there to shitcan him. He's a mediocre player with an appalling attitude. Martial will at least leave on a free at the end of the season, then the cycle will continue as the salary we save on letting him leave will immediately be blown on another average kid who the club and fans think is an elite player.

  • @SahilMiah-fe9fk
    @SahilMiah-fe9fk 6 месяцев назад +6

    Rashford is somehow defendable because of what he’s done for the past few years and last season in particular but marital don’t get me started 1 goal in 15 years

    • @davidpetitetoopageofficiel3088
      @davidpetitetoopageofficiel3088 6 месяцев назад +2

      How is Rashford defendable? He had never had a back to back good seasons. Stop making excuses for the lad

    • @Sidneyyoungblood75
      @Sidneyyoungblood75 6 месяцев назад +2

      ​@davidpetitetoopageofficiel3088 but it's OK for you to make excuses for a guy who has NEVER delivered for united at any time of his YEARS there.
      Give rashford a blast, yeah.
      Martial by comparison is way beyond any kind of defence. He's a failure of gigantic proportions

    • @vincineratev9183
      @vincineratev9183 6 месяцев назад +1

      If you can defend Rashford then you can defend CR7 ain't it? Lol.

  • @mufc7753
    @mufc7753 6 месяцев назад +2

    The two players that showed great attitude they sold, Fred & De Gea .

  • @andrewroberts4736
    @andrewroberts4736 6 месяцев назад +8

    Martial, Rashford and Fernandes need to go. Stick them in the reserves and bin them in January. It can't get any worse.

    • @paulkyriakopoulos3444
      @paulkyriakopoulos3444 6 месяцев назад +1

      You mean relegation dude lololololol. That's a no no.

    • @geraldbutler5484
      @geraldbutler5484 6 месяцев назад

      Easier said than done. They are on the big money and won’t move. Casimero is collecting his retirement pension.

  • @magicalpodium
    @magicalpodium 6 месяцев назад +8

    Martial should be no way near that team. He looks lackluster, absent-minded and mediocre in his playing style.
    I can say the same for Rashford. He is in the same puzzle with Martial.
    I did watch Roy Keane this weekend. You can see the hurt in his voice and eyez. The workrate of the players are way below per.

  • @dogfish2001
    @dogfish2001 6 месяцев назад +4

    Many players on big wages & long contracts, when they don't work out you're stuck with them, they just stick around and take the money, not interested in the club anymore.

  • @naijamasterflexin-dh7fc
    @naijamasterflexin-dh7fc 6 месяцев назад +5

    This club needs to take a cut throat approach with retaining players, if you are not up to snuff, the replacement should be waiting. They should have binned Rashford after that Ragnick season, but somehow he is now their highest paid. Rooney was not always a consitent goal scorer, but you could always feel his impact whether it running into his box for a last ditch tackle or dropping into midfield to create something. Rashford just lingers around waiting for something to happen. 2 goal, and one was a penalty, is absolutely embarassing for a guy on 400K/week

    • @paulkyriakopoulos3444
      @paulkyriakopoulos3444 6 месяцев назад

      I thought it was 350 a week . You telling me he got a pay rise dude lololololol.

  • @biggy3rd
    @biggy3rd 6 месяцев назад +2

    Yes, pile on Martial. I am not saying he has coverage himself in glory, but fact is up until las season his numbers were identical to Rashfords'.

  • @greatthinghappens7869
    @greatthinghappens7869 6 месяцев назад +10

    And all they said ronaldo was a problem 😂

    • @jhpfdijtuiweruot
      @jhpfdijtuiweruot 6 месяцев назад +2

      Ronaldo was one of the many problems

    • @corneliasumner9965
      @corneliasumner9965 6 месяцев назад

      Yes uh cause Ronaldo was not from England that why they are bashing martial who has one goal less than rashford not saying martial is good enough fr united

    • @albertbrammer9263
      @albertbrammer9263 6 месяцев назад

      Ronaldo was the problem. Huge wages. Too old. Did not play how the manager wanted. Difference between him and the likes of Martial, Sancho and Varane is he could be sold on name value. With them nobody will match their wages and they will not take a wage cut.

    • @tevildo45
      @tevildo45 6 месяцев назад

      Ronaldos playing in camel league

  • @MrBerksboy
    @MrBerksboy 6 месяцев назад +10

    This situation has happened with the last four or five managers and they're not carbon copies of each other so this reoccurring problem is pointing to the players and if the owners valued the manager and the football team these players should be long gone. I can see Ten Hag getting the sack then the next manager struggling in there second seeing if they keep certain players.

    • @likesport881
      @likesport881 6 месяцев назад +1

      Yes but why? Too high wages for players not even worth it.

    • @likesport881
      @likesport881 6 месяцев назад

      Martial earns more than Bruno? wtf 😂

    • @paulorganisation1
      @paulorganisation1 6 месяцев назад +1

      These players don't seem to put a shift in because they know there won't be consequences from glazers, murtough, arnold, woodward, fletcher etc but instead new contracts. They have been getting away with it for years.

    • @PapaTube-ep1nk
      @PapaTube-ep1nk 6 месяцев назад

      Number one reason is shirt sales and United's retail business all young United fans want a Rashford shirt or cap, Martial, ext ext and to boost their transfer and sponsors value.

    • @F--B
      @F--B 6 месяцев назад

      Player power is encouraged by higher management. ETH has a contractual agreement to play Rashford and has formal, non-contractual agreements concerning a handful of other 'big name' players.

  • @paulorganisation1
    @paulorganisation1 6 месяцев назад +3

    These players don't seem to put a shift in because they know there won't be consequences from glazers, murtough, arnold, woodward, fletcher etc but instead new contracts. They have been getting away with it for years.

    • @flemfleming3149
      @flemfleming3149 6 месяцев назад

      Agree 100% but somehow the manager is the one to blame. No manager can fix this attitude as the players are untouchable with the current hierarchy at OT.

  • @denisako6493
    @denisako6493 6 месяцев назад +11

    Rashford is crazy. Dude is on 350k a week to play fr 90mins a week. Give 350 people 1k per week and they'll out work and out run the clown

    • @neocell710
      @neocell710 6 месяцев назад

      Or spend that money carelessly, you never know.
      Rashford needs incentive and the coach isn't really giving the players any incentive.
      It's easy to blame the players but Eric Ten Hag at Man Utd doesn't work.

  • @redplague13
    @redplague13 5 месяцев назад +1

    Anthony Martial has one of the highest goal scoring rate for Manchester United in the EPL. It's absolutely amazing how misinformed most analysts and football fans are about goal scoring statistics, namely goals per 90 minutes. This season, Martial's 0.24 goals per 90 minutes, is 2nd to McTominay. Compare with other players: Gabriel Jesus 0.31, Gabriel Martineli 0.19, Jack Graelish 0.25, Jeremy Doku 0.25, Garnacho 0.14.

  • @dannydelillo6086
    @dannydelillo6086 6 месяцев назад +6

    Listen, I grew up on Manchester United being amazing but it been over ten years now of talking about Man U not being great. How much more air time can we give them and can we just accept now they are a top ten club. I guess we have to do this for clickbait but it’s so tiring. The saddest thing is Man U created their success and Man City bought it. But enough, Man U are not worth all this air time. It’s been over ten years and we are still in the past.

    • @likesport881
      @likesport881 6 месяцев назад +1

      I think it just winds people up seeing people get 250k per week to give absolute garbage for the fans.

    • @geraldbutler5484
      @geraldbutler5484 6 месяцев назад

      @@likesport881you want players like Joe Cole or Roy Keane who would have played for virtually nothing because their self pride would not allow them to be skivers. Entitlement and past glories are killing Man U.

  • @smallarmskepa4390
    @smallarmskepa4390 6 месяцев назад +11

    Its always the foreign players. They should be saying rashford is symbolic of everything that is wrong at man utd. “Talented player” walking around the pitch as if he deserves to win without any effort. Sad.

    • @wukongsun6223
      @wukongsun6223 6 месяцев назад +1

      Nope that's Martial.

    • @jhpfdijtuiweruot
      @jhpfdijtuiweruot 6 месяцев назад +1

      They DID lay into Rashford in this very video. And they openly criticised Grealish in the video before. Why are you stirring up division and hatred between nations on the internet? VERY sad

    • @smallarmskepa4390
      @smallarmskepa4390 6 месяцев назад +7

      @@wukongsun6223 nope it’s rashford

    • @smallarmskepa4390
      @smallarmskepa4390 6 месяцев назад +7

      @@jhpfdijtuiweruot they layed into rashford but martial is the one who is symbolic of ALL that is wrong with man United? Hmmm interesting isn’t it

    • @wukongsun6223
      @wukongsun6223 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@smallarmskepa4390 Nope, it's definitely Martial.
      "Martial has been with United since 2015 and is now just 18 months away from qualifying for a testimonial at Old Trafford. Across the last two seasons in all competitions, he has scored just 11 goals"
      😂

  • @dookula
    @dookula 6 месяцев назад +1

    Bring back LVG. As Gary Neville said, he was the only manager after Ferguson who was able to implement a style and identity

  • @rndompersn3426
    @rndompersn3426 6 месяцев назад +6

    The issue with Sancho was never his training. It was that ETH wanted to force him out in the summer so he could buy new players. The same is true with Maguire, McTom, Beek etc. They were on too much money though and refused to leave. Sancho was one of those players and then after the Arsenal game he took it out on Sancho. I dont rate Sancho and he probably isnt the most proffessional footballer but I think ETH singled him out when there are much worse offenders, like Martial. That and ETH seems to think that as long as you are in training at the EXACT time stated then you are eligible to play a game. If you are a second late then you dont. That is fine but 1) You arent going to get massive dividends from having this policy and 2) Why is it OK to be lazy on the pitch when it matters? Rashford didnt even track back.

    • @plopplop1984
      @plopplop1984 6 месяцев назад

      it was his traning and time keeping….. same issue at city and dortmund… why wud he force him out after giving him 3 months off to train alone and get his head right…. then cut him?? 😂 this season was make or break for him

  • @redplague13
    @redplague13 5 месяцев назад +1

    Martial had even higher goal scoring rates in previous seasons, having the highest rate for most seasons at United: 2015/16: 0.38 (2nd), 2016/17: 0.23, 2017/18: 0.51 (1st), 2018/19: 0.55 (1st), 2019/20: 0.58 (1st), 2020/21: 0.24, 2021/22: 0.43 (2nd behind Ronaldo), 2022/23: 0.55 (1st).
    Let's hope Ten Hag is monitoring real statistics, and not listening to clueless former footballers.

  • @davidpetitetoopageofficiel3088
    @davidpetitetoopageofficiel3088 6 месяцев назад +3

    Martial is the new pogba…Rashford always walking free but all the other foreigners will get the blame mean while the English golden kids gets away with everything

    • @jhpfdijtuiweruot
      @jhpfdijtuiweruot 6 месяцев назад +1

      Souness is Scottish and he laid into Rashford in this very video. Your "English bias everywhere!" narrative is silly and embarrassing

  • @heyheyhe0011
    @heyheyhe0011 6 месяцев назад +9

    Graeme was right about Pogba all along. He was a doping failure.

  • @jtaylor9562
    @jtaylor9562 6 месяцев назад +1

    I think the criticism of Rashford is harsh. His work on Kids school dinners is Incredible.....

  • @PaddyMcMe
    @PaddyMcMe 6 месяцев назад +1

    Martial had a Ballon d'Or clause in his contract...
    Every time I remember that I can't help but start smiling.

  • @macoooos9204
    @macoooos9204 6 месяцев назад +3

    Marcus Rashford = Theo Walcott.

  • @albertbrammer9263
    @albertbrammer9263 6 месяцев назад +4

    Man Utd cannot sell these players because they pay them too much. Nobody else will pay them the same amount of money, so they will not leave. Until they buy players and pay them at market value they are screwed.

  • @andrewsealey6942
    @andrewsealey6942 5 месяцев назад +1

    Martial FC will NEVER DIE. you just have to watch him when the team actually gets him the ball to fall in love. I can imagine each manager that comes through is blown away by his talent. But our team just doesn't get the most out of 9's. Heck we couldn't even get the most out of the greatest 9 to ever play the game. Everyone knows its a graveyard shift. Tony is a victim, not the issue.

  • @Baggamuss
    @Baggamuss 6 месяцев назад +1

    I never thought I would see the day where I would agree with absolutely everything Souness says, but he's bloody right!

  • @KarLetroN
    @KarLetroN 6 месяцев назад +3

    The best I've ever heard out of Souness to be honest. The Rashford situation is utterly bizarre. He is coming into his prime right now, on his new £300k per week contract and he is just invisible in every game. He must be carrying an injury, there is no other logical explanation for his conduct on the pitch. He is slow, lethargic, negative, just all around bad. Very odd.

    • @MAYHAM-ze8bo
      @MAYHAM-ze8bo 5 месяцев назад

      football is fixed . that is why

  • @danbuchanan8045
    @danbuchanan8045 6 месяцев назад +8

    Souey would of smashed the living daylights out of Martial if he was his manager. Martial's attitude is appalling. Ten Haag must be deaf dumb and blind

  • @Nickcaunce
    @Nickcaunce 6 месяцев назад +9

    Cant stand Souness but every word he said there is the truth.

  • @tones7mca
    @tones7mca 6 месяцев назад +1

    You cant pin things on Martial or single him out over others. There are barely 2 or 3 players in the Man Utd squad that could challenge for a place in the "top 6" teams and there are not many others who could get in the mid table teams either. The squad simply is not good enough and it would seem at this stage, neither is the manager.

  • @davidpetitetoopageofficiel3088
    @davidpetitetoopageofficiel3088 6 месяцев назад +3

    Martial always getting the blame mean while Rashford walking free

    • @Sidneyyoungblood75
      @Sidneyyoungblood75 6 месяцев назад

      Because rashford delivers now and then.
      Martial delivers every decade.
      That's why

    • @jhpfdijtuiweruot
      @jhpfdijtuiweruot 6 месяцев назад

      They literally criticised Rashford in this video. Open your ears

  • @paultroalic6676
    @paultroalic6676 6 месяцев назад +1

    Souness is just brilliant, he says it as it is. The fact that an ex Liverpool player can speak so flatteringly about United puts him good in my book. And what he says is absolutely correct. The disinterest shown by Martial and in some cases Rashford is so apparent. Most players would give their right arm to play for the Club wouldn't they? Well said Graeme.

    • @Woze899
      @Woze899 6 месяцев назад +2

      Hes wicked and antiquated

  • @frankedward4556
    @frankedward4556 6 месяцев назад +1

    Martial has always had a poor ethic and should not be getting any playing time. He had one good season before he signed his last contract much like Rashford. If Ten promoted a young forward and gave him 30 minutes per game this would be preferable.

  • @lfcspectre4335
    @lfcspectre4335 6 месяцев назад +3

    I couldn't believe hearing this yesterday game between City & Spurs that Jack Grealish scored his 1 goal of season. The same amount of goals as Marcus Rashford yet one gets free pass than other doesn't make sense in my opinion both players have been abysmal this season.

    • @dave2940
      @dave2940 6 месяцев назад

      Grealish has been largely sidelined due to the form of doku, rashford has started virtually every united game when he's available.

    • @lfcspectre4335
      @lfcspectre4335 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@dave2940 Then I've made my point Dave for a player that cost £100m quid not performing is unacceptable.

    • @123asds
      @123asds 6 месяцев назад

      they won everything last season, and he was a part of that. Though to which extent is of course debatable. @@lfcspectre4335

    • @airfixx_8952
      @airfixx_8952 6 месяцев назад

      I'm not the biggest Grealish fan, but the diff. is unless Rashford is scoring he does nothing. That said in the very same show Souness went in on Grealish too.

  • @amt1293
    @amt1293 6 месяцев назад +2

    Tbh since rash ,tony and greenwood scored 60 goals that season, it has been the graveyard shift for every stinker . God knows how Ronaldo got 25ish goals in his first season back . Tony's fitness is very poor, kinda feel sorry for him but the club has bigger problems then singling out tony. How about a style of play and in-game management and man management off the pitch .... Annnnd players being brought , not picked and playing players who have sacked managers before . You buy players for your style of play but pick the players you didn't but then say you can't play your style of play and you want to mold your play on the players there ... Baffling really . Want the manager to do well but yeah ... Confusing

  • @techdogrates1017
    @techdogrates1017 6 месяцев назад +1

    Rashford against Newcastle on Saturday was equivalent to *Dillion Danis' boxing performance against Logan Paul*.

  • @F--B
    @F--B 6 месяцев назад +1

    ETH is contractually obliged to play Rashford. Not sure why everyone is so mystified as to why he keeps getting games.

  • @riveracrobat8393
    @riveracrobat8393 6 месяцев назад +1

    Didn’t martial not take Man Utd to the FA Cup final in 2016. He has had some great moments. It’s the same with Onana, you don’t know what type of player you’re going to get. One side of the coin he’s plays well and on the other he’s not.

  • @lfcspectre4335
    @lfcspectre4335 6 месяцев назад +5

    Sir Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts

  • @Viewer41
    @Viewer41 6 месяцев назад +13

    Vardy £1m
    Martial £56m
    But...but...but... its only ever English players who are overpriced......apparently it NEVER happens to players of other nationalities...........

    • @airfixx_8952
      @airfixx_8952 6 месяцев назад +3

      What drivel......... There's been loads of expensive foreign duds which people openly acknowledge. Citing Vardy who is a huuuuuge outlier is puerile.
      The simple fact is you DO pay a premium for English players because of the home-grown rules.

    • @Viewer41
      @Viewer41 6 месяцев назад +1

      @airfixx_8952 you don't pay a premium for English players.
      That's the myth many believe.
      You pay a premium for Premier League players, because PL clubs don't need the money as much as other leagues.
      E.g Caicedo £115m, Lavia £50m after one good season. That obviously includes English players, but the myth that's its only English players who have a premium is ridiculous.
      Yet the sheep all believe what they're told... 🙄 🐑 🐑 🐑🐑🐑

    • @MrCrazyrob666
      @MrCrazyrob666 6 месяцев назад

      Martial wasn't 56 million

    • @airfixx_8952
      @airfixx_8952 6 месяцев назад

      @@Viewer41 - You say that, but even championship players cost a fair bit these days compared to players from some of some of Europe's lesser leagues (and some of those will already be internationals or have experience of high level football thanks to the European Cups).

    • @langletprolet8378
      @langletprolet8378 6 месяцев назад

      @@airfixx_8952 Not homegrown rules, but the simple fact that PL clubs just has buttloads more money than other leagues. It’s not as easy to negotiate and lower the fees when the teams are not in as much of dire need (compared to Sevilla for example, who needed the money badly and quick). English players don’t actually cost that much on average, they cost similarly as the average foreign players coming in. The top most expensive transfers aren’t even dominated by Englishmen. I think English players being “premium” is a narrative that came from banter that some fans think as facts for some reason.

  • @Vladimirtony01
    @Vladimirtony01 6 месяцев назад +1

    The squads one problem we are not good enough but the way the manager has got us set up isn’t working we just get backed up to our own penalty area in every game there’s not enough pressing we just stand off when going forward it’s in 2 s and 3 s the whole team doesn’t push up we don’t set up to win games we set up just to defend and rashford can not play on the right side

    • @Vladimirtony01
      @Vladimirtony01 6 месяцев назад

      Tnyts performance got me eating my own words

  • @T3akkeydhd
    @T3akkeydhd 6 месяцев назад +20

    Martial is not a saint, but I just think it’s mad that he’s being scapegoated and rashford is being protected by the media and the manager when rashford is 1000x worse when it comes to attitude, workrate, ability etc..

    • @mumsspaghetti6649
      @mumsspaghetti6649 6 месяцев назад +1

      Just read the title I guess

    • @nicholasbolas
      @nicholasbolas 6 месяцев назад

      That's because the media, the fans, even the staff at his own club has given up on Martial. Rashford is the face of United and that's the biggest shame!

    • @davidpetitetoopageofficiel3088
      @davidpetitetoopageofficiel3088 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@nicholasbolasRashford is awful

    • @jhpfdijtuiweruot
      @jhpfdijtuiweruot 6 месяцев назад +2

      They openly criticised Rashford in this very video. Did you even watch it? Lol

    • @hitman123a9
      @hitman123a9 6 месяцев назад +3

      I'd sell trashford and keep martial if I had a choice... martial has a footballing brain ... Trashford don't..... he is a watford / crystal Palace player

  • @GIBBO4182
    @GIBBO4182 6 месяцев назад +6

    Souness has moved on from Pogba then?

    • @VR46314
      @VR46314 6 месяцев назад +4

      He was spot on about Pogba tho wasn’t he

    • @TribalScan.
      @TribalScan. 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@VR46314warra job for Souness at Sky sports

    • @jhpfdijtuiweruot
      @jhpfdijtuiweruot 6 месяцев назад +3

      He couldn't have been more correct about Pogba if he tried. You're the one still crying about him not Souness. Lol

    • @GIBBO4182
      @GIBBO4182 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@jhpfdijtuiweruotjust a little joke bro, why so mad?

    • @GIBBO4182
      @GIBBO4182 6 месяцев назад

      @@jhpfdijtuiweruotoh it’s you…forget it. I remember now…couldn’t buy a smile

  • @ryanmacbain5173
    @ryanmacbain5173 6 месяцев назад +1

    “Arteta…still hasn’t won anything”. Man literally won an FA Cup 6 months in the job

  • @phillydavison
    @phillydavison 6 месяцев назад +2

    Failed manager commenting on what current managers should be doing, good work if you can get it.

    • @kevinlawrence2849
      @kevinlawrence2849 6 месяцев назад +1

      He won the league with ranger's 3 time's and the Scottish Cup 4 time's,not bad for a rubbish manager 😊

    • @phillydavison
      @phillydavison 6 месяцев назад

      @kevinlawrence2849 In Scotland err ok.

    • @kevinlawrence2849
      @kevinlawrence2849 6 месяцев назад

      @@phillydavison but his not a failed manager then is he.

  • @ToxicAfricanKing
    @ToxicAfricanKing 6 месяцев назад +1

    It's unfair to pick on Martial as a symbol of everything that's wrong at Utd. Why isn't it Maguire?

  • @them8k396
    @them8k396 6 месяцев назад +3

    Souness is spot on!

  • @philparry3595
    @philparry3595 6 месяцев назад

    Strangely, the i newspaper ran this article a few weeks back

  • @redmed10
    @redmed10 6 месяцев назад

    Ive always said if you can get 7 out of your transfers in right, you're doing very well. Then if you can get the 3 out that dont work out as quick as you can you've got it as perfect as you can in the real world.

  • @Steven90108Runs
    @Steven90108Runs 6 месяцев назад +1

    Why is Martial being singled out and nothing gets said about Rashford's piss poor performances and lack of work rate? I'm so sick of these pundits' British bias

  • @davidgreenwood5241
    @davidgreenwood5241 6 месяцев назад

    No good keeping players on side if there no good

  • @fearlessformidableferociou8623
    @fearlessformidableferociou8623 6 месяцев назад

    I've heard he's Uncle Joel's golden boy...on the *MUST KEEP* list

  • @adamgrimsley2900
    @adamgrimsley2900 6 месяцев назад +1

    Martial takes £250k out of Manchester every week. A million a month, what has he contributed? It's insane

  • @simonclark3233
    @simonclark3233 6 месяцев назад +1

    Easy to blame just Martial. The whole lot of them are either lazy and lacking commitment or simply not good enough. Rashford has ability but doesnt want it. Mctominay wants it but isnt good enough. Its an absolute mess!

  • @leehaslam5751
    @leehaslam5751 6 месяцев назад +2

    Didnt arteta win the fa cup

  • @lovejoy3347
    @lovejoy3347 6 месяцев назад +1

    Martial is Ole's Legacy. As was Phil Jones until this Summer. Ole was an absolute clown. How he's still considered a United legend is beyond me. I can't believe how someone can play the game professionally to a great standard and still be so absolutely clueless about the sport.

    • @flemfleming3149
      @flemfleming3149 6 месяцев назад

      Martial is a Glazer legacy ……..signed by Van Gaal and contract renewed by Joel Glazer. Not a fan of Ole the manager but he was not to blame for Martial being on permanent holiday for years.

  • @1wnheart47
    @1wnheart47 6 месяцев назад +1

    Souness is correct about both players and for me I would leave martial out the squad and introduce joe hugill and bench rashford

  • @ath7616
    @ath7616 6 месяцев назад +1

    Good to see Souness back.

  • @bramaxx2859
    @bramaxx2859 6 месяцев назад +2

    Sourness.. you are very right here .... something is not right with Rashford..... he look so lonely and empty

  • @AL71B
    @AL71B 6 месяцев назад

    I don’t always agree with Grahams viewpoint, but he’s bang on here.

  • @shaneoconnor8597
    @shaneoconnor8597 6 месяцев назад +1

    What about his mental health. What about him being out of form. What about him being frustrated with not being played. Not saying he doesn’t deserve the criticism but the picture they paint of rashford maguire even mctominay is way different

  • @TAI-iu2fz
    @TAI-iu2fz 5 месяцев назад

    7:00 brilliant breakdown

  • @avfc1985
    @avfc1985 6 месяцев назад +1

    Pogba's fault. Stop defending him and just say it, Mr Souness.

  • @amenstal123
    @amenstal123 6 месяцев назад +1

    If you have yet to form a consistent team by middle of the season for whatever reasons they were,
    THEN YOUR SEASON is only left to be saved.
    THAT'S WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENING !
    FOOTBALL 101

  • @paulmorris7726
    @paulmorris7726 6 месяцев назад

    Couldn't agree more!!

  • @fayroozwilliams7611
    @fayroozwilliams7611 6 месяцев назад +1

    I loathe Souness but everything he said was true.

  • @TheTW11
    @TheTW11 6 месяцев назад +1

    Martial has stolen a living at United. United have made Martial a multi-millionaire and he couldn't care any less about his club. It's beyond me how he is still there. The academy must have a few motivated young lads - give one of them a go - at least they will put in a shift.