Inescapable Is The Worst Game I've Ever Played & I'm Making That Your Problem Now
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- Опубликовано: 16 июн 2024
- Much like the characters on the island, I almost regret that my adventure with Inescapable has now ended. The journey - very much so in spite of the game - was fun. Sorry in advance for what you're about to watch.
If you'd like to check out my VODs from streaming this game start to finish four separate times (which, I don't know why you'd do that to yourself, but I'm not your dad) you can find the playlist with them here: • Inescapable: No Rules,...
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Chapters:
0:00 - Introduction
5:12 - Part 1: The Premise
14:53 - Part 2: The Characters
17:47 - Part 2.1: Harrison
18:56 - Part 2.2: Mia
20:27 - Part 2.3: Eva
22:22 - Part 2.4: Annika
24:41 - Part 2.5: Daan
25:47 - Part 2.6: Giovanni
27:35 - Part 2.7: Isak
29:22 - Part 2.8: Lumi
31:05 - Part 2.9: Francisca
32:31 - Part 2.10: Valerie
33:48 - Part 2.11: Naima & Naomi
35:09 - Part 3: Sasha
45:02 - Part 4: Shit I Hate About The First 60 Days
1:02:53 - Part 5: Suspicion
1:28:26 - Part 6: Lust
1:43:52 - Part 7: Greed
2:03:45 - Part 8: Trust
2:18:30 - Part Tangent: Gio, I Guess
2:32:20 - Part 9: Final Thoughts
2:43:06 - Conclusion 
Игры
Gio really is the embodiment of the quote "Your gay because you love men, I'm gay because I hate woman. We are not the same."
How did I get 1.2k??? Stop that. No dont give me likes this isn't even my joke
@@Justapikachu577 make that 1.3k likes :)
1.4 now
1.6k now but I read it in his voice.
1.9k now! I read it in Oz's voice
"Inescapable"
>you can escape the island
i want my fucking money back
I've been saying this about the zero escape games for ages
Hi, I'm the voice of Lumi! Daan's VA shared this with me and I watched the whole thing, which I thought this was great work! You gave some very good criticism, made me laugh (especially on the Gio part), and most of all, I respect you for playing through all 4 routes! If it was hard to sit through the Wonderland scene, believe me, I had just as hard a time voicing it. I was not expecting to do that sort of scene for Lumi at all when I was told she was the emotionless type of character lol. However, it was fun voicing for Lumi as this was my first big role in something so it will always mean so much to me! Hopefully you had fun whenever you could while playing! ❤
I’m glad you enjoyed it! I said this to Daan’s VA as well, but I admire you for being willing to sit through a video that’s pretty hostile to something you worked on, especially given that it was your first big role and I know how easy it would be to be defensive about that (and I definitely wouldn’t blame you for it either). I’m sorry to hear that the Wonderland scene was hard for you too, Lumi’s role in that scene has consistently felt very weird and out of place given everything else about her and I can imagine it wasn’t very fun to get hit with that out of left field. There were definitely some solid Lumi moments, though - as much as I thought it was a little out of character for Lumi to team up with Isak to kill Gio, I thought you did an especially good job at conveying her frustration with him and how he ruined the plan. I wish we’d gotten to see more of that side of her - there could’ve been some good opportunities for her in Greed and Lust to let the frustration at the way the contestants spiral slip out.
I completely understand Lumi meaning a lot to you as well, I think we all tend to be very attached to those kinds of firsts and I’m glad it was overall a fun experience! As much as I didn’t like the game, I can definitely say that it was a lot of fun to play through in its own way - especially the Gio bit, I genuinely haven’t laughed that hard at anything in ages. I hope to see you (and your colleagues) in bigger and better projects in the future!
You and your character deserved a way better project.
I hope you get better work in the future, this must've been quite taxing on your psyche
You did a good job and tbh, I really like your voice acting!! I just think Lumi had a LOT of potential thrown out of the window, which is such a shame because for what you've been given, you did a great job! Can't wait to see you in future projects!
i started off adoring lumi and absolutely loved your voice work!
Fun fact: there was an experiment in the 70s where 10 people with completely different backgrounds(ethnicity, relationship status, thoughts on religion, age, etc.) were put on a raft and sailed across the Atlantic without surveillance to see what they would do(in terms of would they kill each other or make love). (Btw it was just them and the guy that designed the experiment). And at the end the 10 participants did want to kill someone, and it was the ‘scientist’ guy because he was being an @sshole to them. And even when interviewed about it years later they all said that they were still great friends and that they all hated the scientist guy.
Eyyy I watched that Wendigoon video! I love that story, it’s very heartwarming and points to the fact that reasonable people will try to work together when united against a common force….in this case the scientist himself lol
Honestly that story is hilarious because the more you read into it the more you start to understand the psychology... of the moron who designed the experiment. It's an embarrassing kind of hilarious seeing a middle aged psychologist thinking like some edgy teenager in a black trench coat who thinks he's "extreme" because he listens to black metal.
Whats the name of the Wendigoon video? I wanna watch that now, sounds faith-in-humanity restoring
@@LooneyLeilook up wendigoon the acali raft
THE RAFT EXPERIMENT WHAT A LEGEND
Honestly, making a 160+ minute hatedump because people don't understand the difference between criticism and crucifixion? Living for this energy.
He just like me fr
Me fr
could u rec any other hours long hatedumps i love them so much. they fuel me. other than this one i know of "Graduation: A Modern Day Travisty" which is two and a half hours of salt and i live for it
@@Langlocke Thank you for that video - I know how I'll be spending the next 2,5 hours as I'm home sick!
Hbomberguy has some good ones. His video on BBC's Sherlock is a classic. And I enjoyed the 2,5 hour RWBY video even though I've never watched that show (which is the mark of a great rant). I can't think of any other ones off the top of my head, but I'll be sure to edit this if I remember some.
Edit// Oh! Big Joel's video about the movie Click is great too. It has that unhinged energy. Though it might not be as long as the others.
Or as Harrison put it, crucification
I'm absolutely baffled that they made Catholicism such a huge part of the plot, but mistakenly called crucifixion CRUCIFICATION
Oh thank god I wasn't the only one who was like "... Isn't the word crucifixion?" As I looked at the game dialogue 😭
To be honest I thought they were doing it on purpose at that point because that character never calls any of the gods properly.
*CROSSIFICATION*
ESPECIALLY because Isak says "crucified" in the wonderland scene (54:02) like so close but so far....
@@Nionivekthat’s what I’m thinking but as a Catholic I was second guessing my pronunciation on some of the other stuff. But def think he was doing it for the bit.
I'm a lesbian and a T1 Diabetic, so while the Gio endgame gay reveal was hysterical, what really got me was the mid-game, route dependent, secret diabetic reveal. King. Get a CGM. An insulin pump. Anything. What a madman. Dosing on vibes alone.
Here is a question I just noticed thanks to you... how is he still alive during the Trust Route? The longest a diabetic can go without any insulin is like... two weeks in the best case scenario.
@@Nionivek Sheer fucking willpower
@@NionivekYou see, the corn is actually a canon event and exists in the military base in a state of superposition until needed. Obviously in the trust route, Lumi secretly finds out about Gio's secret diabetes and then makes him insulin via corn which is totally how it works my source is
are you me? xD i’m also a lesbian with type 1, we are very cool 😎🤝😎
@@cealens clasps ur hand- brother in arms
the fact 3 out of 4 routes involve isak rizzing women is actually hysterical.
No because why has Isak pulled more than me 💀 this ain’t right
He has that autistic rizz, I feel
NO CAUSE I WAS WATCHING THE LUST ROUTE AND VIV DIDN'T EVEN MENTION THIS MAN RIZZED ***VALERIE*** IN THE MOST TOXIC AND OBVIOUS WAY EVER
He's so real for that, actually
Tbf it’s the same woman but I also refuse to believe this dude has rizz.
Hi! I’m the voice of Daan😂, great criticism I would say, I get the frustration man. Great video and thanks for calling my VA work okay hahaha. It was a ride to voice in this game and this was my first payed job, but I get that the game could use some guiding. I watched the whole video and I can totally understand it. I hope daan made it at least a bit more fun XP!
I genuinely respect you for being willing to sit through the video, because I think if I were in your shoes I probably would’ve had to turn it off. And I will say that Daan’s habit of randomly just saying whatever emotion he’s feeling at the end of a sentence has worked its way into how I talk because it was legitimately funny, so I think Daan was a net positive all things considered lol
Oh cool! With that attitude, you'll definitely make it in the industry and Im glad you got payed for your work! Hope to hear your performance in other works.
I'm glad you took the video well. Can't wait to see your voice acting in other projects because you did a really great job considering the script, I'd say! As a voice actor myself, I wish you nothing but the best!
You’re a damn hero, dude! Daan’s voice is absolutely my favorite and your delivery is super entertaining especially with how over the top he is! Hope you get more gifs in the future!
Congratulations on getting a job you love, I hope you get better projects in the future.
The game feels more like a danganronpa amino roleplay with a 12 year old, a 30 year old ff7 fan, a bunch of edgy teens/young adults, and this one guy who definitely shouldn’t write books with female characters
You can say that again, especially since it feels like each character was an exaggerated version of a Danganronpa character:
Harrison: Makoto (Trust), Byakuya (Greed, Lust and Suspicion)
Mia: Kyoko
Eva: Miu (I would say Chiaki, but A. She's no gamer, and B. She doesn't use text abbreviations - not even as an AI)
Daan: Munakata (Willing to do whatever it takes to get what he wants, his methodology of killing the culprits being reminiscent for the sake of Justice being reminiscent of how Munakata was willing to commit murder for his "Hope"
Giovanni: A mixture of Sakakura and Fuyuhiko
Valerie: Hiyoko
Annika: Mikan
Can't think of any more, lol
this is the danganronpa fangame written by 13 year olds that didn't crash and burn from a loss of passion when they started high school
"No one is going to know about your game and if they do it's going to be because of this video" is a more toned down version of "I will eviscerate you in fiction. Every pimple, every character flaw. I was naked for a day; you will be naked for eternity." from a knight's tale
I’m only 13k views away from having the most-viewed video about this game on the internet so there’s a very real possibility that this will actually be the most influential piece of Inescapable media out there lmao
Giovanni's story makes me particularly angry because it could've been genuinely compelling if it was written by someone competent. But maybe I'm just being blinded by Gio's tits and my crush on him
Exactly, his character design was so wasted smh
@@Xx_d4ydr34ming_b4t_xX EXACTLYYY I don’t wanna be horny brained but his design is also just like. Really good compared to some others in this game
One day we will get a good "homophobe realises they're gay and actually develops and unlearns shit" story
not today though. and we lost Giovanni for it
So real for this...
look up Dracule Mihawk, that’s who the design is based off (imo) and he’s actually a great character
"Call me the garbage collector, because I'm about to collect some garbage."
They could not have made that funnier if they tried. No notes.
He also made a Darkwing Duck reference. Fucking iconic.
How did no one notice everything he was saying made him sound like he was 15 😅
1:17:54
I remember when i first heard that moment, i was for some reason like, "Damn, that line is actually kind of cold."
Then when i went to eat, i thought about it again, and slowly realized how fucking funny and nonsensical it was.
"I'm the garbage collector, because i collect garbage." The more and more i think about it, the funnier it is.
It's proof that the people who wrote the script for this game just used the first draft. There's literally no other way.
He sounds like such a nice person, thank you for collecting my garbage
I think I had a primal disgust/anger response to Annika. The voice acting, the design, everything is just screams "infantilisation fetish"
and as a swedish person it hurts even more
Yeah, she looks like a pedophile designed her to lust over her. The infantilisation. The way she is basically serving them all. And she is also drawn the youngest. Thinly veiled fetish
@@siggevidstige8019 my deepest condolences to you and any annika's you know. I don't usually get to see names of people I know in games due to being Nordic and after this I hope it never happens again
i physically cringed when i heard her, they could weaponize that character
@@siggevidstige8019 same :) "anni likes fika and godis" herregud
As an artist, what pisses me off the most is that the art in the cgs and the sprites is not bad! I love the direction where they used "acrylic standee models" for the characters, I think it's charming
And yet it was wasted all on this horrible game. No wonderful character design, art direction could NOT save the horrendous writing
GOD FINALLY A COMMENT THAT MENTIONS THIS. The designs and art is SO GOOD IMHO. If only we lived in a diff wprld, where this game was as good and short as DDLC...
I was just going to say this, honestly I like how the characters look. Design could be better, more consistent, everything else is bad... but I like looking at them. My brain's just like 'man, what a shame...'
Definitely. Some designs could be better (like Viveros said, to show the personalities of the characters) but I really like Lumi and Gio's designs
I love the acrylic standees, reminds me of dead of winter. I’d love to see that style used for another game
I totally agree! The standee approach is reminiscent of Danganronpa and their use of flat character sprites but given a twist that makes it charming instead of seeming like a straight rip off. I wish that the game continued to find clever ways to use their inspiration to their advantage by putting new twists on it… maybe it would have been passable then.
I wish I had never been subject to Naomi's voice acting. There are ways to portray angry, unhinged characters without screaming into your ear every time she speaks :((((
Ngl it jump-scared me the first time she appeared. I legitimately jumped 💀
On a note I think it's so sweet that your brother gave you a gift like that.
I do not mean the game, I mean the oportunity to make 2h45m of youtube content.
It was more a treat for us, though
We all won in the end, except for the game, but other than Worst Game of the Year it wasn't going to win anything anyway
i wonder if lumi's entire lack of a finnish accent was an intentional choice to represent her life as a multicultural person... or just because they couldn't be bothered to find a VA who knows how to do one. as a finn i really like how the accent sounds and wish it was actually utilized more with characters who are supposed to be finnish or finnish-inspired
edit: GOOD GOD, SHE DOESN'T EVEN PRONOUNCE SAUNA THE FINNISH WAY! absolute robbery
EDIT 2: *THE GAME WAS MADE AND PRODUCED IN FINLAND????*
Excuse me, you're saying the same nation that Spellcrafter Noita and Ultrakilling Ultrakill came from also spawned this abomination?
This gets one step funnier than you guys think because it's currently nominated for Game of the Year at the Finnish Game Awards against Alan Wake 2 lmao
@@TheViveros i just saw that myself this morning when doing more deep dives into the game (including the hilarious patchnotes, which included the gem "Playing the fishing minigame no longer brings people back from the dead") and I'm in tears. what has my nations game industry come to. is this what happens when studios that are actively sponsoring award shows also make games (because yes, dreamloop is a sponsor for the fgoty event! absolutely insane!!)
@@ED-gw9rg both of those games are known for making the player suffer, so in a sense inescapable follows the national tradition of making the player experience pain... just in a different way than most actually good ones
@@ED-gw9rg Also add Fear & Hunger and Cruelty Squad. There's that whole meme about "Finns developing the most unhinged games you'll ever play".
In Danganronpa, you dread getting too attached to the characters in case the worst could happen to them - hoping beyond hope that some of your favorites survive.
In Inescapable, you start wishing a nuke would just drop on the island.
The game that makes you WISH Nagito was here to do exactly that
Honestly, DR's no better IMHO. Lest I remind you this is the same series that sexualized Mikan and Kotoko (two SA survivors), including the latter who's *literally a child* and played her and Haiji (an actual p*do) for laughs and even wrote it as attractive. Then there's DR3 single-handedly destroying what made the first two games good and retroactively making Makoto and Chiaki look _so much worse,_ and V3 basically killing the series. Just because DR is better at hiding it's incompetence and malice does _not_ make it any better.
@@TheAxeLord47911Real shit
Naomi: That's right, we've got NUKES!
Me: Do it, motherfucker. Go on. Do it. Better make it count.
@@TheAxeLord47911 NGL, the whole "Bracelet" system might have worked - if they'd utilised it better, instead of including the "Despair videos"
This game is if a group of people came together and decided to turn their discord RP into a videogame, looked up how to be camp and poorly tried to follow the exact definition. I actually burst out laughing at several lines of dialogue from the sheer absurdity
As cringe as this may be to admit, as someone who actively participated in danganronpa discord killing game roleplays, I've seen groups of teenagers write more compelling plots, characters and create better art and designs than this actual fucking game company 😭😭
@@Essayien same…same
@@Essayien Ayup. The fandom is horrible at times but I saw rps and characters that were better written than some book characters
@@Essayien yeah, in those situations (as someone who has participated in some) Discord RPs are usually done as a passion project, so those teens actually try their damndest to portray their characters--original or no--the best they possibly can. And that usually entails regulating participants who are intentionally or otherwise derailing the whole thing _(I say this as someone who's had that happen to me before)_ before the affair devolves into . . . Well, another Inescapable.
@@Essayien As someone who STILL participates in danganronpa discord killing game roleplays, there are two sides: people have a LOT of talent with the most biggest writing masterpieces I've ever seen and... inescapable.
i just wanna add (before having watched the video):
i was there when the casting call for this game dropped (PUBLIC casting call btw, on fuckin castingcallclub of all places), when it was just called "project daedalus" or something, and it gave off EVERY possible red flag to the point that it seemed like a complete scam and neither me nor my voice actor friends were interested in auditioning. there was no character art, and even weirder no character NAMES (it was all "sweet attentive swedish maid" or "introverted nerdy british boy", which is VERY rare for games like this), the lines were absolutely atrocious and all seemed like such ai-generated stereotypes based on whatever the archetype was (there was one listed as like latvian nonbinary engineer or something that was straight up "i can be whatever you want me to be, darling ;)" which, as a nonbinary person, raised some. concerns.), but weirdest of all was the pay; it was listed as "$1,000 / finished hour" which is INSA N E for a project of this scale. and again, this was on CASTINGCALLCLUB, the website where mostly beginner voice actors audition for small indie stuff or fan projects (or dozens upon dozens of gacha life animations). and they were AMBITIOUS. asking for different accents on i'm pretty sure every single character, and making it clear this would be a project (so a LOT of work on the actor's end most likely). like. i just really need to emphasize. i don't know if they got a voice director, but based on how poorly their casting call was formatted, i highly suspect it was all self-directed on the actor's end, which, in a character-based visual novel where every character is supposed to have extreme personalities and distinct accents, is . and obviously they were asking for accents or nationalities that they know next to nothing about, hence how wonky all the accents and pronunciations are
ALL THIS TO SAY:
that's why the voice acting is Like That. and i do not mean this as a dig at the actors themselves; just at the devs and writers for handling this about as poorly as a voice acting project could be handled. if i got handed a script for "pampered french teen business heiress" without proper guidance i would probably set on fire
Honestly this does a lot to explain why they’re Like That, but also good god that sounds insane
honestly some of the voices in the video actually sound kinda good? if they weren't such insane scripts and in such a joke of a game. i hope the VAs can get better roles in the future because it sounds like with a bit more experience, proper direction and a serious project (as in something being produced seriously and professionally) they could really shine
hahaha you and me both. my friend even had to twitter DM dreamloop to ask about it.
Was gonna come comment on this point. My issue with the voices is less the actors but the direction they were given which was none.
I've never heard of Casting Call Club... is it any good to find resources?
It really annoys me how Mia says “Mist”, cuz we use that as a “dangit, shoot.”
It is NOT a reaction youd have to being told you might be murdered 😭
You mean to tell me you WOULDN'T go "Awh shucks! :((" when faced with the loss of you and your friends lives 🤨🤨🤨???
@@pearlribbons gotta keep it PG friendly 🤣
@@pearlribbons "Erm... so that just happened."
bernd das brot ass reaction
"OH MY GOD! A MURDER" "oh darn it! awkward!" *cue laugh track. slowly turn to the camera. sienfeld music plays*
Noooo little German girl, don't go on the kidnapping bus!
"Oh mein Gott, dis ist ein Bus full of ze Chloroformtüchern!"
The way this comment TOOK ME OUT. Mein Gott indeed lol
Mein gott.... 😔
Bester Kommentar omfg, du verdienst eine Medaille. 😅😭
i thought that this was a meme comment with fake german as a joke only to come back, notice the “translate to english” button, and discover that it’s actually in german lmao
i love German because actual German sounds exactly like the memey usage of German
God Annika could have worked if the infantalization was a key part to unlocking the true route, Harris would need to be able to see past Aniikas childish exterior and would have to see she was uniquely capable in her own way depite her disabilities. He would have to *Trust* that Annika was more than her first glance and i am so mad she was reduced to a child caricature.
Ima be real. I didnt like it when Mikan was sexualized in DR2. But Annika is so much worse. Mikan has some serious mental issues that definitely needs repairing, but the times where she's nit depressed, she actually acts normal and sweet.
Annika is mentally a child.
im autistic + a few orher things and can act very.. childish as well as a coping mechanism for some. Stuff.
i saw myself a bit in annika.. it really sucks that she ended up like this because she really had potential to be really really well written
stealing her and making her an oc idgaf anymore
As a British person the delivery of "well that's just rude, innit" at 51 mins in made me cringe so fucking hard. whoever made this clearly doesn't know how innit works as a sentence piece and the voice actor clearly didn't know how a british person talks. I also got whiplash with the discussion of the prize being €500k because.... harrison immediately replies "wow that's more than my salary!" and maybe it's a me problem but I don't know the conversion of euros and great british pounds, so it gave me the impression that the writers just... Aren't aware Britain doesn't use euros
I mean, I can't imagine it's impossible to find an office in the UK somewhere that converts your euros to pounds, but idk.
@@GarryDumblowski You definitely can, but there's the simultaneous circumstances that €500,000 is significantly more than the yearly salary of a bus driver and that anyone trying to get that much money exchanged will have to go through a more specialised service that might ask why you have that much foreign currency.
@@davidsmith7752 Haha, yeah, I didn't think about having to launder the money until after I sent the message. Ironically, Harrison would probably also be the one with the least ability to launder the money too, since he's a bit of a nobody compared to the others.
@@GarryDumblowski oh its more that it just caught me off guard how immediately he responded to the amount of euros, because I'm not good with exchange rates so if I was in that situation it would fly straight over my head. like I said, it might just be a me issue but also I don't think many people in Britain know that stuff
@@nerdychocobo i feel like it would be reasonably likely that he knows the general level of similarity between the values (like compared to currencies where 500,000 isn't worth nearly as much), that and the fact that 500,000 is presumably a significantly larger number than his salary is makes me think that he wouldn't have to know the exact value to come to that conclusion
"oh this can't be THAT bad, it looks ok-"
gets to annika and how she's treated by the rest of the cast
"NEVERMIND"
Same!! Like, how did that make it through production?!
Just got to this part and... her voice... what were they thinking??? I'm already so scared to see the direction they take her character.
I havent arrived yet to that, I'm scared...did they do something worse than Dangan with Mikan? You should do better than your inspiration, or similar, but NOT WORSE
yeah that ain't right, how did they put someone like her in this clusterfuck and think it's okay, doesn't feel right and reminds me of the bad routes of school days
It's so deeply unsettling that she's treated this way by the cast and the game, cause it's so obvious that she can't consent
As someone who's autistic, Annika's sexualisation and infantilisation was SO goddamn uncomfortable to watch.
I wanna give her a hug
True, I want to take her out of the game and treat her better
@@lolzu Ah, yes, the best way to object to infantilisation. Hugging the poor little meow meow.
Same tbh, like it really tells you a lot about how they see autistic people, or people with developmental disabilities in general. We're children up until they want to fuck us, then we're sex objects.
@@tiacat11 you can respect a person and still want to comfort them..
that fucking tea party scene went on for so long it gave me sensory overload
Small gripe compared to... everything else, and it's not like this is the only game that portrays bodies unrealistically - but you're going to sit there and tell me that Francisca looks like THAT when she had a baby TWO MONTHS AGO????
She’s just a single mom who works too hard who loves her kid and never stops.
Ikr? When he said that, I could only focus on her fully defined six pack and skinny waist
@@TheViveros With gentle hands and the heart of a fighter, she's a survivor.
@@TheViveros She's a survivor! ..... literally
either she heals like a baki character or some god blessed her to not have any physical after affects from birthing a literal child
That fishing minigame is the most atrocious rhythm game I've ever seen
It's genuinely baffling how bad it is. And it's not like it just gets desynced from the music if you sit on the starting screen for too long, because it'll hold off on actually giving you the notes until it thinks it's hit a point that it should come in at. If it turned out that that section was programmed with a different song and then it randomly got swapped to that one it would make so much more sense.
Especially when the "good" "great" "perfect" text appears OVER WHERE THE NOTES COME FROM, BLOCKING YOUR VIEW??? WHY COULDNT IT HAVE BEEN UNDERNEATH
It really took the "worst rhythm minigame" crown from the skyward sword harp strumming 💀
@@beingmegucaissuffering.5326 and, mind you, the harp strumming is like 10 minutes max of gameplay. If anything, the pumpkin balancing minigame was far more annoying
I'll give them this. Most of the time the children that get drafted into these bizarre death games are either American or Japanese, having them all be Europeans is a nice change of pace
Isak: *speaks*
Me: 'kaaaay that is NOT the voice I expected from THAT character design.
Exactly! He’s 100% a scene character, so whats with the Black Butler villain voice 😭
I most definitely expected like a light yagami-ish voice
He sounds like "We have James from Pokémon at home"
He's like a Hubert 😂 but I was expecting more abandon
@@Iamstickmanmore Pegasus JCrawford
I know its not important but harrison’s fucking comedically british accent drains any level of tension that could even possibly exist
"blimey. This is quite the bugger of a situation we've found our selves in. Ey mates. We best stop the feckers who put on this bloody island. Or we can play some football to pass the time. I need something to take me mind off the fact I've gone an hour without a pint."
@@somethingclever4297"gee wilikers! I sure do hope I don't miss the next season of Britain's Got Talent!"
Don't forget 1:53:28
"Blimey, pish posh, I'm fucked!"
@@nyome5086 as a brit i fucking lost my mind when i saw that line. it's like someone set the british colloquialism slider to maximum
Getting choked: B-Blimey, th-this is a st-st-sticky w-w-w-wicket, blegh
I cant handle your character introductions. It's so damn funny.
"Hi, I'm Daan-" Daan is genderbent Dutch Aoi Asahina except with a boner for cops and a fcked up view of justice.
DAMN
Daan’s bio was one of the first ones I wrote and also probably the one that changed the least over time, mostly bc I just thought all of it was pretty funny the first time. “His personality is like if Junpei Tenmyouji was ride-or-die for the thin blue line” is one of my personal favourite lines from the whole thing.
@@TheViveros it made me laugh really hard so i agree
All I see when I look at Daan is the Onceler. Are we sure he isn't fanart from some lorax AU where the onceler's buff?
This game is like the YIIK of Danganronpa-type games and I genuinely wish I was joking
yiik is the yiik of earthbound type games then? makes sense. maybe mario and luigi… idk yiik is fucking weird. i would say undertale but undertale is very derivative of earthbound already
Don't compare this trash to YIIK.
Hearing harrison say "crucification" fucking killed me dear god
I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO BRING THIS US WHAT DOES THAT MEAAAAAAAN
@@gracegrrl007 think Harris meant crucifixion but the writers got it wrong
Ok can I just say, the good ol “Orient express twist” (They all did it together (spoilers for anyone who hasn’t read a 50 year old book)) would have been a *terrifying* climax in almost any other game. Imagine if that sort of thing was done in a proper danganronpa game, final class trial, it’s revealed everyone is working against you and *has* been working against you from the start. That would be *awesome*. It’s just a shame it’s in a game that couldn’t write its way out of kindergarten.
Yeah like you could do something very cool with that concept - having a killing game where there's an Orient Express ending (even if it's just an optional one) where everyone except the player character gets in on the killing and leaves you trapped as the one innocent person is something you could really do something with. In concept, I get what they thought they were doing with that, but instead it's just like... oh, ok. This was stupid. Especially because you don't actually have to try to live on the island with the dynamic that all the others are killers - it would've been genuinely really cool if you had one more murder after that where they have to trust you to figure it out because they can't trust each other, knowing that they're all capable of killing and deceiving. Instead it just skips to the end and does nothing with it even though there's another month left in the schedule. Even the times Inescapable threatens to do something interesting it immediately undercuts it with a bafflingly dumb decision.
That wouldn’t really happen in a danganronpa game because of the whole only one person can be the blackened.
@@craftergamer9058I think that's exactly WHY it could work in that setting - especially something like Viveros suggested, since everyone/multiple people *could* work together to betray you and in the end, you have to figure out which of them the game will even let you punish while you have to live with all the others for at least another chapter. Not that they'd have to know that in advance, THEY could undertake the plan falsely assuming they could all be rewarded...and/or one or more of them knows it won't work and calculates their contributions so they won't be the scapegoat but someone they want dead will be...and/or after they realize it they all turn on each other and argue why they're not the "real/most" culprit...idk, I think that rule just makes it more potentially interesting.
@@craftergamer9058 in the orient express, i think one of the people tries to volunteer themselves for the crime since they had the strongest reasons to kill them
@@craftergamer9058 to be slightly fair, that doesn't get established at the start of the games, so for the 1st or 2nd murders it could work, or until whenever Monokuma puts it in the guide book. (idk if 2 or 3 stated it from the start, but i know in 1 it wasnt established until trial 3)
Thank you for putting that small wiggly friend to maintain my sanity. I have no idea how you and chat managed to get through dialogue like that for 4 playthroughs without getting locked up in a mental asylum.
I had to put him there for my own sanity, ngl. I had to play another 20 hours of this game to get the background footage so I started adding him in while I was editing bc he made me happy lmao
Also frankly I think the only thing that got me through it was knowing that I was eventually going to get my revenge with this video. Also a lot of alcohol.
The blorbo... the sploinky... rewatched this video immediately just for him...
Edit: Also as a vod watcher I can confirm Viv usually starts actively consuming alcohol just to get drunk at around 30-60 minutes on average.
thank you for discussing the ableism with the discussion and treatment of Annika and her infantilization as well as sexualisation.
It's estimated 90% of women with an intellectual disability encounter sexual abuse throughout their lives. It's so bad that forced sterilisation of intellectually disabled women is still legal and practiced in many first world countries (as it's expected they will be raped at some point and their carers do not want them to risk getting pregnant) and they do not have their own reproductive autonomy. Another reason is carers not wanting to deal with them having periods.
It's horrendous. Anyway, I seldom see people discussing the issues of disabled people, especially not the developmentally disabled.
Thank you so much it means a lot and it made me feel tearful hearing a RUclipsr who cares because usually it's the opposite where I'll watch a video and suddenly they'll use the r slur or say something awful. I wish you a lovely day and thank you for the video
"Core blimey, pish posh, im fucked" is the single best thing to come out of this game and its a single line of dialouge
One of my biggest problems with the game is that only one of the routes contains murder mystery elements despite the fact that this was marketed as a death game.
OH my god I JUST realized why Naomi’s voice was grating on my brain specifically. She sounds EXACTLY like one of the creatures from that one part of nostalgia critics the wall review. The one with the hat
What’s wild is you’re not even the first person to make that connection lmao, like if multiple people are independently coming to that conclusion it’s pretty damning
NO YOU'RE SO RIGHT THOUGH WTF
OH SHIT THE ONE W A FETOSH FOR CUTTING HEADS OFF??? I REMEMBER THAT FUCKING THING!
THE ONE W THE FETISH FOR HEADLESSLESS???
i swear to god i just watched that video 😭😭😭
"Which IS deeply relateable as someone who also doesn't like Harrison."
Did not see that coming
As an asexual myself, I should be happy to see the inclusion of an ace person in the cast. But the fact they're described as 'heartless', which falls back on the stereotype that asexual people are like emotionless robots who can't feel love or affection, along with the wonderland dream where they were desperately begging to be 'used' by Harrison, make that a very, very insulting inclusion and honestly makes me feel a little sick. Not one thing in this game's attempts at 'representation' isn't just a horrible insult. They don't even accidentally get something right!
Media like this is part of the reason why I have a cynical attitude towards representation in media.
@@indigomizumi I mean, when you think about it, it's kind of ironically embedded to the concept of representation in media:
Representation requires the experience from the side that is represented, NOT the side that observed them, as it can have skewed perspectives and not have the full picture.
But since most people that are in control of the media's narrative, writing and visual/audial expression never experienced those represented moments, by the nature of the representative usually being a minority and/or treated unequally, or they more often then not get it wrong.
In short, The fact that we want to represent something means that the people which create that representation likely aren't part of it due to the fact the represented are not equal in amount and status, and that can make the representation incorrect
Moreover, even consulting only a single or few represented people about can also go awry, as most representation aren't one sides to fit all, Like how all Autistics or all Asexual are different and experienced different things.
That's why I think Clear and Major Media Representation should be made with consultant of sufficient amount of the represented AND Proper research of the topic and it's many perspectives.
@@tetrachart4156 Thing is, you also just need more representation in volume. There are so many different aspects of being autistic, and so many different people can have nothing in common yet still all be asexual, that simply consulting enough people still wouldn't do them any justice. The people affected by autism or those that identify as asexual are so diverse that it's genuinely impossible to represent them with one character, as is the nature of a spectrum. The best one story can do is avoid stereotypes.
Harrison's English accent is so bad to a degree that I have rarely seen
Everything about it down to the way he say "innit" is simply wrong in the stupidest way possible. It's almost funny at points
out of all of the ways I've heard american people say innit as a joke, even in *purposefully bad ways*, it has never sounded as awful and unnatural as the way Harrison said it
I'd honestly rather just be called a slur than be called a bruv by the least bruv-sounding motherfucker this side of the prime meridian
He sounds more like he's autotuned, honestly. I'm British and I would not have even guessed this guy was British if you hadn't told me. Getting to the "innit" was like a slap in the face omg
@@TheViveros As a Brit, that comment fucking sent me. Thank you.
Okay this is a huge nitpick and not even THAT bad in comparison to the more egregious writing, but a huge pet peeve of mine and what signals to me that someone is VERY bad at character writing is making bad Likes/Dislikes.
Notice how nearly every characters’ profiles have like a fun fact, little trivia thing for their Likes (usually favorite foods, hobbies, etc.) but their dislikes are almost always abstract concepts that are representative of their core belief system (Harrison being “loneliness”, Daan being “unfairness”, Gio being “heroes”, etc.)
Sasha’s likes/dislikes are hilariously non descriptive too, like yeah we can tell that the pervert hacker likes mischief and “your annoyed face” and dislikes direct conflict. Do they have a character OUTSIDE of that basic premise? Like maybe Sasha likes drag shows? This would allude to how they quote RuPaul all the time.
I don’t even *like* Danganronpa that much anymore but compare this to any of those characters:
Mondo Oowada owns a miniature dog named Chuck which contributes to dispelling his image of a hardened delinquent, Sonia Nevermind, in the original JPN text, frequently swears in English, which is a funny personality quirk and also makes sense considering she’s a world leader.
it reminds me of my first deviantart ocs tbh. They all hated, like.. "mean people" or some shit lmfao
I don't even get the purpose of short likes/dislikes list. Like, maybe I'm outing myself here, but at least in RP scenes it helps you know what you'll be dealing with and that helps with planning our naratives; here the stories are *already* set in stone, and, unless they do a *catashtropically* bad job writing, it would've been obvious anyway.
I said this to my friend! Saying things like a character "Dislikes snooty people" is such a nothing statement. Nobody likes snooty people, not even snooty people themselves. That tells me nothing about this character, other than the fact that you ran out of ideas for them.
Sonia unironically spouting "Jesus shit son of a bitch!" lives rent free in my mind even after all these years
also sonia likes serial killers, and occult stuff! you wouldn't guess that from her appearance, talent, or how she behaves most times
i always used to get annoyed when i saw people going "i bet they're in the closet" about someone being homophobic, sometimes its just a shitty cishet person and nothing more. its cool to see someone call that stereotype out
as someone who's portuguese, francisca's romance route being "garagem da vizinha" is a reference to the song by quim barreiros that is basically about the singer and the neighbour having an affair
and personally i need francisca to be in a better game than this PLEASE ill save you francisca ,..,..
i legit burst out laughing when i heard her go "FILHOS DA PUTA" essa gaja é do norte caralho ahhahaaha
help when she yelled “FODA-SE” i laughed so hard i wheezed and started coughing . shes actually iconic 😭😭
I'm convinced there was at least one actual queer person on this development team, Likely a gay man. My only evidence is Gio's line about checking out the men's underwear isle. That is such a specific thing that so many gay men can relate to as one of the first things that made them realize they were attracted to men, and there's no way a staff of all straight men could just come up with that all on their own.
supporting evidence is that the enby's personality trait is liking rupaul's drag race. I can't speak for all enbies but... 💀 idk, it feels like a show for binary people. Probably mostly cis people.
@@cyanthrope Yeah... it was my first taste of queerness once upon a time, but as I grew into my gender I started to feel like RPDR is steeped in Gay culture specifically, which is literally fine and no problem whatsoever but I agree with your observation lol
You know, that's actually quite an interesting thing to know.
@@cyanthropei dunno i know a lotta trans folks who love it too but it IS very much more abt gay culture than gender-based culture
Talking about poor queer representation:
Making Lumi, the "heartless" one (by the games own description at some point), asexual is also a reductive stereotype, so much so that I half expected it. Media often paints us as emotionless or at least unable to feel/express deeper emotion. It is very unsurprising that writers who clearly don't know what they're doing would fall back on that stereotype and make their only ace character sound apathetic af. I wouldn't be surprised if this bored/uninterested VA work isn't fully the actor's fault, because I would bet my month's salary that they asked her to make her character sound cold and emotionless.
I skimmed the comments before getting too far in the video, and only just got to the Wonderland dream so I'm not sure when that's mentioned, but...LUMI? "KILL ME WITH YOUR LOVE, I'M HERE FOR YOU TO USE" LUMI? Like it's clearly all in Harrison's head but is the choice to use the canon(?) ace character for THAT "side of temptation" ever interrogated?
@@anomaliecosmos I completely forgot about that scene (more like suppressed it).
That makes it even worse holy sh*t
@@anomaliecosmos I fucking choked becouse I got a flashback of that bit the moment I heard about Lumi being ace and thought "Oh god they really went with that route-".
@@anomaliecosmos not only their only ace character but their only BLACK ace female character. they chose for that scene. out of anyone else. wonder why they had to have her be over sexualized at least once in their game hmmmm
since I’m bored, here’s how I think lumi could be fixed!
1. GIVE HER BETTER WRITING/MORE STORY, PLEASE SHES THE BEST CHARACTER
2. make her nice/friendly/whatever, she doesn’t have to be monotone and all that…or MAKE HER SOCIALLY AWKWARD IN A NORMAL WAY
3. just remove the wonderland scene istg DONT DO MY GIRL LUMI LIKE THAT
To their credit, The True Crime fan being Terrible at solving crimes could’ve been a really funny joke…keyword being COULD
Early video me: “Ah…a Black ace character. Finally, some good fucking re…”
Late video me: *thud sounds intensify as I slam my fists in rage upon my desk*
One thing to mention is that Gio is Italian raised in a less globalized world so it makes sense that he doesn't know much about Stomewall but it does show the lack of knowledge and research abou the experiences of queer people during the latter half of the 20th century. Also what is the sister's nationality. They are implied to be hispanic but also their accent when saying anyrhing in spanish is plain wrong regardless of birthplace.
I think it would make sense if he didn’t know about the Stonewall stuff at the time, but to say he didn’t grow up in an age with that stuff was just bizarre especially when he says that Sasha did grow up in that world. By my estimate, Sasha’s probably between 20-35, so it still wasn’t in their time.
Also, I think Naomi and Naima are supposed to be Spanish? The characters were kidnapped in Spain and I think Naomi’s accent is a bit more Spanish, but the VA who did them both pretty clearly just doesn’t know how to do accents. If the game didn’t explicitly establish that the characters are all European I wouldn’t have guessed they were even from the same continent ngl.
When Naomi said "pendejo" like that's a word Spaniards commonly use, it was such a whiplash. I understand there's A LOT of accents and dialects, but come on, it's like they couldn't "fact check" the text with a Spaniard at all.
Or maybe they're not Spanish? But I don't think it's the case since they're supposed to be all European. Overall, very weird, and I wonder if native speakers of other languages of the characters noticed these inconsistencies with their speech and their nationalities.
I mean, my mom's older than him and she knows about Stonewall well enough to know that it happened when she was in university. Giovanni is just one of the most infuriating stereotypes ever.
Giovanni would be more like a Sicilian mafioso.
The thing is, the fact that he mentions it at all implies he knows it exists, so the fact he misses the time it took place just makes it feel like the writers couldn't even spare a quick search on what year it happened.
I can legit see the writer for this game looking at the line "There were no drag queen to throw bricks" or whatever it was and thinking to themselves "yeah, I cooked".
As a trans pan person myself I am all for LGBTQ+ villains or antagonists, but Sasha and Gio are just not the way to do it, like you said, they feel like caricatures, they feel like they were made to make fun of us, rather than to give us a voice.
On another note, Sasha's liking of RuPaul feels so... random. Like, I am sure Drag Race has its fair share of enby fans but the decision to make Sasha a super mega fan that can only speak in Drag Race quotes feels so... forced, as if it was the only thing the writer could come up with in terms of an interest for a non binary person, which is more notable when you realize the writer never watched a single episode of the show 💀
"Ah yes RuPaul's Drag Race that's surely what the queers like! I have outdone myself once again"
Oh yeah, I think that was one of the most annoying things about a lot of the queer rep, you just *knew* they thought they were cooking up a storm with those lines. Like they thought they were doing the *most* representation and the *most* diversity when the quotes are probably mostly just the ones you’d get if you looked up a Ms Mojo video about the top 10 drag race quotes. Learning that this game wasn’t made by people trying to mock queer people was genuinely kinda surprising because I don’t know how you write characters like this without realizing how bad it all is.
@@TheViverosNot to forget the ableism and transphobia that the characters vomit and never get punished or even get scolded for or something. I am not gonna care about Eva and Francisca or whoever it was being friends with benefits when earlier in the game, Eva was throwing slurs and speculating whether or not another character is trans. I'm not gonna see that ending scene in the Trust ending and go "Aw, how cute", hell no, I just see that scene and think "Oh great, she's bi-curious and still a transphobe". Their mindset when writing that was probably thinking that they had to show how mean spirited or antagonistic the characters saying these things were, but it really doesn't work in a game where every character (except for Mia) acts mean spirited or antagonistic at one point.
@@lizzzbenoist And the CEO claims "Representation is important"
My heart SANK when about three minutes in i saw the name "Eva Tamm", frantically googled her in fear, to have my suspicions confirmed. Tamm is a common Estonian surname, it means oak, which is the national tree.
One of THREE Estonian characters I've encountered in non-estonian media, and she's in this game -_- literally fucking heart broken.
The transphobia for one is distasteful, evidently.
And you're telling me there's a Swedish and a Finnish character and they don't take the opportunity to use the characters' cultural backgrounds for interesting interactions? Na, why would a character who's been kidnapped try to connect with other kidnapped people from cultures they've likely interacted with before?! As an estonian Eva has likely visited Finland several times, and may have relatives in Sweden, for example.
Also missed opportunity for the fact that Eva is a character from a small country many don't hear much of and an attention seeker. If her sounding like a valley girl were a purposeful creative choice maybe she's stripped herself of any indication she's Estonian to more easily fit the image she wants to present of herself. After all, not many would find an Estonian accent sexy.
Her cultural background doesn't inform any of her actions, her characterisation or even her vocal performance. What was even the point?
As I said, she's one of three Estonian characters I've seen in non-estonian media. I always get a little excited when I hear there's an Estonian character in something, and this time, I was right to feel horrified instead.
The thing about her being from a smaller, often neglected country is something they really could’ve done something with as a social media influencer character, especially given Estonia’s unique history with mass media as an SSR that could get some Western television signals through - of all countries, given the producers of the game - Finland. Hell, even just a joke about how she’s used to voting digitally could’ve been a silly little nod to Estonia’s e-government stuff. There’s a history there that could’ve been used to inform her character and her pursuits and tell a more interesting story about her, but instead you wouldn’t even know she was Estonian if she didn’t specifically tell you.
@@TheViveros Absolutely! And if they wanted to actually write character development they could have her arc be about learning to be proud of her culture instead of putting on a fake valley girl accent and trying to be as "generic influencer" as possible.
They could have built off having a character who doesn't have an obvious tie to their cultural heritage by making it a narrative decision that goes somewhere instead of whatever the fuck they did.
It wouldn't be unrealistic for a young person from a small country people rarely hear of to get one lick of "viral fame" and chase more of it to the detriment of expressing their own personality + cultural background. Competent writers could've done something with it.
And having other European characters in the cast should've made any form of cultural reference easier, you'd think. An interaction between Lumi and Eva on how the former's family has gone on day trips to Estonia to buy cheaper booze, for instance, would be a no-brainer. You'd think having Finnish involvement in the game would make little facts/references like these beyond easy to implement.
@@kajakas_kulp Ah man. Estonia sounds cool, full of history and culture. I mean that seems obvious to every country that exists, but it truly is a challenge to make a character from a different country from your own.
Like mannerisms, language, social interactions, even mixing media from other cultures into their own. I understand the frustration when they get most info from the first page of google.
Speaking of european interactions, isnt Isak Norwegian? And Annika is swedish? Norwegian and swedish are plausible to understand by ear, and finns(due to, uh, opression.) are usually educated to learn swedish. I feel like it couldve been a neat flavor to see some of our characters with similar languages speak in a different language to attempt to keep something on the down low? Or something? (Edit* seems like the greed ending the mafioso and the mechanic did speak a different language to hide what theyre talking about to hide it from harrison, so good on them ig.) Or like. bare bitch bonding over being from an area with cultural overlap. Or digs at each other. Most online finns I know take any opportunity to make fun of swedes(rightfully so), and god know swedes have a lot of shit to talk about its neighbours.
Also, only vagely related: I, for one, am from sweden and greatly dislike heat, and moreso than being kidnapped and focibly stranded on an island, being forcibly stranded on a TROPICAL island?? Id die. Like, some skandinavians adore warm vacations, but fuck that noise, Id rather ski everyday for a week straight in fjällen again than travel anywhere near the equator again.
All that to say: do the characters ever really remark anything about the locale? Comparisons to their homes, if theres anything they miss or prefer? Idk.
@@TheViveros That makes me VERY tempted to make an original Estonian character purely based off this idea. THAT SOUNDS SO INTERESTING, GENUINELY.
Isak’s voice is literally just a more annoying James from Team Rocket and I’m surprised I haven’t seen anyone else mention it lol
NOW I CAN'T UNHEAR IT
I WAS LITERALLY THINKING OF THIS WHEN WATCHING THE VIDEO LMAOOO
Yo I was thinking the same thing when I first heard it 😂
I was gonna say that too! It's James without the charm.
The true scariest villain they could have imagined
Heterosexual James
as a British person, Harrison's voice and dialogue confuses me because it feels like a combination of a bunch of different places and dialects with no consideration put into choosing a specific place of origin. his accent sounds posh, maybe from the north of England or rich parts of london, but then he says slang like "innit" and "bruv" which just aren't used very often in those communities. slang like that is typically used in the south, areas like Birmingham or the poorer parts of London. normally with british accents and dialogue u can typically figure out someone's home county from their accent and speech but with Harrison i just can't???
It has the same energy as the pokemon sword and shield english translation, where it's just a strange mish mash of everything vaguely british. but at least there it's a fantasy world inspired by Britain, not meant to be real life, and the story is entirely pointless not... The whole fucking game. And his posh accent makes it sound even more unnatural when he says innit or bruv, because those accents just... Don't pronounce things like that. tbh for me his voice didn't even entirely read as a British accent to me, although I'm not the best at identifying accents so that might be a me issue
This man is a vocal chimera
@@nerdychocobo its just like tracers issue from ow lol we need more british vas for british characters
Same thing about francisca.
Sometimes she says things commonly said in portugal, which is okay, she speaks portuguese, BUT SHE HAS A BRAZILIAN ACCENT, not only that, her way of speaking is also brazilian, so i don't know if she is brazilian or portuguese.
Not only that, but her portuguese is somehow form nowhere in brazil, there are no ''Mano'' or ''Piá'' so that i could identify a place, she's just... from somewhere
@@CelestialSylph143 Tracer's VA is actually British, she just has a very thick accent lmao
Ok, I hate to say this, but is it weird that Isak, at least seeing him here, is VERY ironically entertaining. Like, everything about him is so inherently ridiculous that I can't help but laugh
I said the same thing to my friend. He's so annoying but you could tell the VA was having so much fun with their role that you almost have to forgive him because their enjoyment of getting to play a total maniac is contagious
Yeah I think he's the only character I kinda vibe with, he is the only redeeming part of that Tea party sequence because the overdramatic Gundham clone doesn't seem to change at all in this scene, while the other 2 are just different characters completely
Isak is actually rather funny ingame unintentionally. The less everyone takes him seriously the better it makes him look imo
him saying "crucification" 1:31:00 is so funny cuz that's just literally not a word. it's crucifixion. even looked it up to make sure it's not some lesser known version of the word.
The timestamp is wrong the scene is at 1:12:38 but I agree the incorrect word/mispronunciation made me laugh so hard
1:27:15 So the Chapter 1 case is notoriously simple for *English* players. In the original Japanese game, Leon is written in English still - meaning that it's far trickier for Japanese native players to understand. While we all saw it instantly, many Japanese players would have genuinely had to figure it out with the clues provided since unless they had a rudimentary grasp of English, it would have been total nonsense to them. It's just one of those unfortunate lost-in-translation moments.
Not like it matters anyway though since the first case handholds you the entire way through
@@Xxsorafan It only gets truly difficult when you get to the point where you have to absorb statements to shoot at contradictions, ngl
I don't remember, do they ever explain why she wrote it in english?
32:39 the way i screamed "NO!" as soon as I heard the french accent paired with the tiny small child character. I dont think ive ever had such a gut wrenching reaction to a character in a visual novel before.
the immediate realization that its One Of Those Characters. and its not even trying to hide that. like at least in DR they made the goth lolita character based on the clothing culture and made her be extremely manipulative, making people believe she’s not nearly as big of a threat as she really is, but here its just. Lolita. not the style, but like. yknow. and giving her a mental disability just so she can be “technically not a child” yet still horribly infantilized and CLEARLY mentally immature (which is its own issue, giving her autism to make her ‘childlike’, but i cant even touch that without wanting to scream)
Why did no one tell Valerie's voice actor that a tilde means saying something SING-SONG, not LITERALLY SINGING?
They probably thought it was ominous and creepy, but it's really just cringe.
the entire wonderland scene felt like a fever dream but instead of having a fever you are actively dying and that’s what you are seeing before you die :D
If it was intended to be anything else the voice directors would've said so. They kept it in, which has to mean it was intentional
@@cryguy0000 implying there are any voice directors in this mess is an insult to voice directors as a profession.
As weird as the scene was ngl I thought her screaming-sing-voice sounded kinda cute
You know, in a bite-sized-out-of-context-TikTok-audio-with-edited- music-in-the-background kind of way
I put this video on as background noise for my knitting, having never seen your channel before, expecting to zone out after the first five minutes. Instead I got blindsided by Drag Race references, unwillingly had war flashbacks of my high school Danganronpa phase, had physical cringe responses like I have never experienced before, and listened intently to every minute. Never in my life did I expect to hear "Danganronpa" and "Shuga Cain edit" spoken in the same video, much less the phrase "Dutch genderbent Aoi Asahina with a boner for the cops." 10/10 would watch again but skipping over the actual game footage this time
My favourite thing about the comments on this one has been the number of people who’ve been like “I put this on as background noise but then I heard (insert one of a million unhinged things) and I had to lock in to figure out wtf was going on”. I was worried while I was making the video that I was getting too wrapped up in too much of a silly little thing, and that the length was too long, so I’ve been really glad that other people find this deranged game as captivating as I did lmao
I had this playing in the background and GOD when that lady started speaking (Naomi? I don't care. I'm going to call her Noisy) made me physically stop what I was doing. This goes above nails on a chalkboard, this is chainsaw on a chalkboard level of grating. I've never felt such a visceral hatred for a character I haven't even seen yet like I did in that moment. The other girl sounds fine. Just an extremely bland archetype I would expect to hear in a game like this.
For some reason I can't edit this comment so I'll put it here. I'm halfway through and that cutscene with the Celeste ripoff singing is making me want to jam pencils so far in my ears they start bleeding.
I think the choice to show big glimpses of the gameplay/cutscenes was the best way to make this case for "worst game" especially when one's ears is pelted by the mixing and the egregious voice acting
Also, Isak has one of the strangest designs/proportions I've seen for ANY character, and that is in every negative regard lmao
EDIT: I should mention this is ABSOLUTELY a directing issue in and not the fault on the VAs, since this is an issue across the board (not to mention having to salvage all this dialogue)
Ok maybe my standards are on the floor from badly dubbed anime, but the voice acting didn't actually sound that bad for the most part? Awful direction, they were obviously told very little about their character outside of a stereotype to embody, but it feels like the cast worked with what they had, especially if they're amateurs (which, based on this being a tiny game by a tiny studio seems likely)
ETA: also shout out to Isaac's VA, they went ALL the way in Jesus
Yeah, I rhink about half at the least are good *voices*. The direction though........ I don't think I can blame the VA's period, I can't see any horrible voices except for the accents that were butchered by (probably) young and newer VA's. @@bye1551
@@bye1551 The VAs sound amateurish most of the time but like, they could do well if they weren't saddled with voice direction that's of the same caliber of the writing.
@@antonioscendrategattico2302 yeah exactly, this was hardly a talent issue. It was primarily a voice direction and writing issue.
@@antonioscendrategattico2302 Like Viveros complained that Lumi's VA was acting completely emotionless, and then Lumi's VA dropped a (pinned) comment where they mentioned being told to portray an emotionless character. You really start putting the pieces together that these amateur voice actors were not given good material to work with, which is a shame since for many of them this game was their debut.
I hope it didn't reflect badly on any of their future voice acting pursuits, they need a more diverse portfolio of work STAT!
You know, sometimes I worry that my writing is a bit flabby about the gills. That I struggle with trimming the excess, or even fail to realize when a scene isn't going where I hoped it would before sunk cost fallacy sets in.
Now, at least I know I've never taken one statement, ran it through a thesaurus a dozen times, hid half of the repeats behind singing and/or horny bait, then stuffed them all in an utterly pointless dream sequence where the main character is choking on his own cringe while fantasizing about a rich girl and an ace thirsting for him. The prior sentence runs on less than that whole scene.
Thank you for subjecting me to the horrors of purgatory.
Y'know, I think what enrages me most about the suspicion ending is the fact that they all got away with it! They murdered an innocent girl and knew exactly how to save her, but just let her die all the same. And none of them faced justice for it.
Yep, at least in Danganronpa - they had "Punishment Time", it wasn't house arrest (The only time they did anything like that was when they restrained Nagito in Cjhapter 2 of Danganronpa 2)
@@fierytigergaming8112 Thing is, Mia's poisoning happens notably slower than the rest of the cast, so there was a window of time where every poisoned victim was dead except Mia, a window that the culprits could have used (or Daan, at least) to still give her an antidote. That suspicious timing could come up in the trial, even.
What makes Danganronpa WORK is the fact that the characters are indeed caricatures taken to extremes, and yet they're more than just a single trait. This allows you to get the idea of who they are and build rapport... Before they're brutally killed or executed. And those that survive to the end, you don't want to see die.
But these characters here? They have the idea... But they missed the mark.
Yeah they are stereotypes juuust enough that you can easily remember all them... But also human once you speak to them... USUALLY.
DR works because they demonstrate WHY cliches exist. These archetypes exist for a reason. I replayed DR recently and liked how the characters start off as over the top caricatures and the more time you spend with them the more you start to see them as real people with depth. They become grounded. It’s done well. DR has issues but deserves its flowers sometimes.
That wonderland cutscene is PAINFUL...
Not as painful as the Annika sexual assault scene
AGONIZING even
poor, poor lumi….
It included forced insert of tso ff14 raid songs and that made me scream in even more pain. It made no fucking sense
I don't usually write longer comments but I respect the hell out of you for this Viveros.
I also got gifted this game on release, and after I played it I knew /someone/ was going to make this video, it just wasn't going to be me. Not only have you broken down pretty much every critique I shared regarding this game, but you kept it focused on the people who deserved it AKA Dreamloop. I made an effort to keep on top of the discourse around this game when I played it and a frankly bizarre and disproportionate amount of hate for the game was directed towards the voice actors for whatever reason, and that really put me off wanting to engage with critiquing Inescapable. That, plus the growing "sacrificial trash" status of the game, shielded Dreamloop proper from the brunt of the discussion about their false advertising, exploitative writing, and infuriating gameplay. I'm glad you kept the target where it belonged.
Also making me listen to that Tea Party again took years off of my life, thank you for that
Thank you so much, that really means a lot. I definitely do think some of the voice acting deserves critique and I understand why that’s gotten a lot of heat (mostly Naomi ngl, good voice directing could’ve saved a lot of the other characters but that one’s irredeemable) but it’s not the fundamental issue, and fixing it would’ve been just putting lipstick on a pig. Dreamloop deserves 100% of the blame for how this turned out - including with the VAs, imo. It’s not like they forced themselves into the game, Dreamloop hired them, wrote a bad script for them, and then didn’t provide adequate voice direction. And some of the VAs are genuinely pretty solid; Francisca’s is good, Eva’s is good (just miscast), and Annika’s is good (just that character shouldn’t exist). I wonder if part of why people defaulted to criticizing the VAs is because critiquing this game for its actual flaws is so hard - there’s too many things to point at but it’s hard to nail down what the actual problem is because everything is buried under a million miles of pointless fluff. Even getting clips for this video was hard because there’s rarely just a good concise “A-ha!” moment - it’s always a dialogue section that drags on and on and on and nobody ever just comes out and says what they’re trying to say, and that makes it a lot more nebulous and difficult when you’re trying to say “This is the problem, this should’ve been better”.
And I apologize for the tea party scene but I think it’s a rite of passage for Inescapable. Every time I got to that point on stream I made chat sit through the whole thing because it’s just… transcendentally bad. I don’t understand how you go through the process of writing, recording, and making art for that scene without anyone saying “Guys, I think this is a really stupid idea, can we just like… not do this?” I genuinely need someone at Dreamloop to go to prison for that one (although ngl Valerie singing “Lazy! Pathetic! A fraud driving a bus in the night!~” has become iconic to me and I will be making it a stream sound alert)
My theory is that voice actors, artists, and such are easier to access and DIRECTLY target, rather than screaming at a group of people who won't see nor care about what you're saying, so that's why people target VAs as if they have any say in development/production. They'd rather go for who they can victimize easiest.
Oh shit! Ozzy! I was thinking of your own VN videos at the start of this one. Nice seeing you here.
you know, the idea of a group of people being trapped in a killing game but doing everything they can to actually fuck over their captors is genuinely like... Interesting, not sure if it's been done, but I feel like if the game focuses solely on that and then takes the time to really flesh out each of the characters and showing them learning from each other and grow, would have been a cool concept for VN.
It reminds me of the "sex raft experiment" where the scientists expected the tested to turn on each other and instead form strong bonds.
So, fun fact! On the note of casting for this game(or possibly games that Dreamloop has made in general) their voice acting cast was pulled(at least in part) from a small-scale voice-acting website called Casting Call Club! How do I know? I’m 98% sure that, when I was in high school, I saw a casting call on said website and even considered auditioning for it! I only connected the dots here because I remember looking up dreamloop, as it was marked as a paid job. Funny thing. CCC is a place for amateur voice actors to start off their careers and start making audition reels. I’m only about halfway through the video having written this comment and I’m unsure of whether you mention it. If you didn’t know, now you do.
I didn’t know it before publishing, but yeah a few other commenters have mentioned seeing it there. In a way it just makes it even more frustrating that they didn’t provide proper voice direction because it means they were deliberately picking up relatively inexperienced people who needed extra guidance and just didn’t provide it. It sucks so hard.
@@TheViveros I went back and checked! Surprisingly(or unsurprisingly, considering the quality), it was in fact for this project! While in development, it went under the name of “Project Daedalus” and offered $1,000 per completed hour doing voice work. Interesting snippets of info on this, I guess.
“So Eva smacked Valerie with bagel” SENT ME
I’m not gonna lie, I was so, so, SO ready for Giovanni’s big reveal to completely shatter my ankles and for him to come out as some flavor of trans. Maybe he gave birth to those kids. Maybe they learned something from Sasha. Or turning out to be a trans woman, which would be a genuinely interesting twist, a story I’ve heard from a trans friend, and something I wish was a narrative somebody, anybody, explored, if only to make my non-passing ass feel seen.
I thought his chest scar was a top surgery scar and I was biting my nails for the epic reveal lmao
Omg that's a pretty good idea actually.
FR
ngl I'm kinda relieved they avoided that route. Gio is characterized by his violence and toxic masculinity. There is also a stereotype of trans men being violent, misogynistic, or otherwise toxic by virtue of being men I guess. So in the alternate universe where that reveal was true, it would just be reinforcing yet another insulting stereotype about queer people. Congratulations, Inescapable, you managed to accidentally avoid insulting another community of queer people. Still an F for effort.
such a shame there's no mlm interactions within the lust route bc i know for sure that harry and daan would have an strong idiot/weak smartass friends to lovers dynamic. but if that happened i'm pretty sure that would've been fumbled if it was attemped. annika lumi and valerie deserved better
you’re so true and I also love how this game invents a sub genre of u-haul lesbians which is Last Fucking Minute Sapphic Rep
To be fair, they do build it a bit in other routes. Mia starts desperately throwing around accusations after Lumi disappears in Lust, when she returns Lumi almost exclusively hangs out with Mia- in Suspicion, Mia tries to gaslight everyone including herself into thinking Lumi was blackmailed by Isak and when she dies, Mia says "goodbye, my love". I'm also pretty sure that in Lust route Lumi kind of straight up admits to being in love with Mia and says something like "I am unsure what love is, and I am unsure what I feel even now, but I feel like we could have had something under different circumstances. I care for you greatly"
not be narcissistic or anything but, like, i think i could do this concept justice
Same tbh
Surely most people could
I don't think that's narcissism. I think that's basic self worth
Most people could, I think
Having lumi being. Like that in the wonderland scene is just even worse considering she's ace. Like they could've honestly chosen a different female character but they had to pick the only canonical ace character to have a wildly uncomfortable scene where she begs to fucked?
Also I'm so sorry you had to endure hours of this game throughout the video the cutscene just got more and more uninteresting (excluding gios coming out scene that was incredibly funny) and I cannot imagine how boring it got after a while.
Also the designs in my opinion are just not good. Like they're not. Too bad. But the best ones having nothing innovative about them (I think eva has the best one honestly.) and the ones that are "unique" just look super messy (Mia and the murderer tank sister I cannot remember how to spell her name)
Also the comic scene just looked terrible to me. Like the poseing composition. They did nothing that took advantage of the benefits of doing a comic instead of like. A cutscene.
I actually think the inherent concept (people stranded on a island with no laws, being flimed) has potential? But I do think that it definitely needs some changes to actually work. Mainly I think establishing a actual plan for the show earlier on, and establishing that the producers have enough power to get away of with it. Or that the more powerful characters families actively gave consent to have them be taken behind their back (french), or have them go consensually (sasha) or have blackmail be apart of it (gio) but I'm also not a writer.
Also as a disabled person the maid character is so wildly uncomfortable. Mental disabilities do not work like that at all and that fact that the "is mentally basically a child" character is so sexualized too?? For no reason?
also the whole. Murder plot emo and lumi did just doesn't make sense for me motive wise honestly? I get that like. Emo is really anti-catholic but torturing a man and then trying to hang him off a cross?? Like I know emo is a. Character from the other runs but i still have no clue what motives he had for murder beyond that. His character honestly makes no sense to me.
I love this type of video where someone tears apart a fictional property they hate.
I find it really amusing that this game is trying to be the equivalent of a bootleg movie trying to trick your grandma into buying it, but for killing game visual novels. While having a logo design that's trying to look like LIVE A LIVE.
oh my god. i was trying to figure out why they did the big capital A in the middle because the letter A has no significance in the game, but i think you nailed it. holy shit this game is so fucking derivative.
The day media will understand that bilinguals don't randomly use native language words while speaking english and, if anything, outbursts are FULLY in the native language, I'll rest easy. Giovanni's shitty accented Italian gave me several strokes
As someone who doesn't speak a word of Italian, Gio sounded pretty cool to me.
"No one pre-lobotomy would think this game is good" is real funny cause I played and 100%ed Lobotomy Corporation and that game's writing, minimal as it admittedly is, is miles better than anything I've seen from this game. THAT was a proper story about what happens when humans are driven to the brink. Project Moon stays on top as expected
And then they kept going from there. Library of Ruina is so good as a sequel that it made everybody forget Lobcorp existed. Limbus Company is the only gacha game I have ever seen with people genuinely interested in the new lore, and not just callbacks to other properties in the Mooniverse. The aesthetic core of the games is a combination of SCP, public domain fables, pop culture, and religious imagery, and somehow not a single second of it feels like something I’ve seen a million times.
And now we kinda want to see how they play lobotomy to join to our lovely comunity, cause this is actually good)
Part of the ship, part of the crew...
PROJECT MOON SLEEPER AGENTS!!! UNITE!!!
@@jellifygirl THE ODDYSEY HAD A PURPOSE!!!!!
Sorry voices in my head , new 2hour video on a niche topic just droped
So, I work as a call centre team leader. We do phone market research. One of the biggest problems for new staff is what I call 'scriptitis'. Basically, it's where you can kinda tell the person talking to you is not using their own words and is just reading off what's in front of them. They're not talking with you as a person, but engaging with the script.
This is exactly the energy I'm getting from this game's voice acting. If I was quality checking, I'd be marking down for tone *all over the place*. Jesus.
This was something I had to figure this out myself working for my college campus as a student advisor.
While a major part of what we do is essentially act as the first wave of people students are sent to when they need help assuming the issue is simple enough, we're also directly in charge of most major contact campaigns. I can't think of a single call-script we've been given in the time I've worked here that sounded natural to speak aloud. Rewording what we need to say not only saves time in the end, but makes our outreach to other people much more authentic!
tbh I feel like the "Killing game with no game concept" seems so funny and unhinged like
"You'll be forced to play a game of life or death!
"A game that will make you...."
"...."
"What were the rules again?"
"What do you mean? I thought you were the one deciding the game"
"I was one responsible for choosing the location and kidnapping the people you were the one choosing it!"
"ARE YOU SAYING I GOT A BUNCH OF STOCKED FOOD FOR NOTHING BECAUSE YOU DECIDED TO BE INCOMPETENT AND NOT DO YOUR JOB?"
and then it could have both of the headmaster try to figure out what game they should play and either have them making shit up on the post or just changing it every 5 seconds so no one knows how to win, if you do it properly it could be a interesting premise
Annika seems to suffer from age regression which is pretty serious. Usually it is triggered because of severe trauma or traumatic stress. It's not something to make fun of because it's their coping mechanism to trauma such as SA or abuse or PTSD, etc. I suffer from it sometimes, I resort to regress mentally because I was forced to grow up in my youth. I was also a victim. I was also sheltered against my will in my youth. I regress when I get overwhelmed with stress or trauma, or suffering from an episode & depression because it's my way to take a mental break by resorting to a youthful mindset. It's a sense of security for me. Before I was a victim, I use to feel safe in my childhood. That is why I regress. It's genuinely messed up when people make fun of it, because I'm not trying to seek attention whenever I regress, but truly the opposite. It's a mental issue that I can't control, a coping mechanism from all the pain I grew up with. To mistreat Annika with sexual scenes and moments is so disrespectful, it's insane. It's like sexifying nuns when that goes against their beliefs! It's genuinely terrible and I feel sorry for annika...
Same here, genuinely felt bad for how poorly the writers have handled that character! :
Was it stated that she was traumatized in any way? The bio just says it's due to a disability
It's a thousand times worse than sexualizing nuns because nuns are adults that are mostly in control of themselves (and historically catholic clergy was infamously horny and "flexible" on that celibacy thing) and at least nowadays their condition is an entirely self-imposed one. Making fun of a trauma survivor in that way genuinely makes me want to vomit.
@@antonioscendrategattico2302 sexualizing nuns is still gross though. they're abstinent women who choose to cover themselves from head to toe and generally separate themselves from secular society. they're women who don't want to be sexualized. they should be allowed to have that. it's gross when people fetishize them anyway.
that's kind of a very different thing from sexualizing age regressers or traumatized/infantilized behavior in general, but in both cases it's the fetishization of real life people who do not consent to sex.
@@mushr--m Just saying, something that you're forgetting is one of the core factors that draws your example apart from what the OP is talking about is that nuns *_DON'T_* concent to sex
Meanwhile, people like Annika (either children, regressed adults or adults that have the mental capacity of a child) *_CAN'T_* concent to sex, no matter what
Every time Gio was on screen I couldn't stop staring at his glasses because....wtf are they hanging off of??
I forgot what he looks like (blocked most of it out of my memory) but presumably his chest hairs?
I like to think he was meant to have a fancy breast pocket on his vest but it was just.. never drawn in
Edit: Upon closer inspection it looks like he actually does have a breast pocket but it's just a single line on his vest lmao
THANK YOU. I saw the game on steam not to long ago, and i was like "huh, i hadn't play a danganronpa type game in years, might try it when i can affort it", but you sir just save me like 23.000 chilean pesos of buying a shitshow. Thanks, your sacrifice won't be in vain.
I genuinely cannot believe “I don’t even know if you’re waifu or husbando” is actual dialogue written for this game. Absolutely incredible stuff, guys.
Me: All right, let's see how bad this gets!
The voice acting and dialogue at 05:18 punishing me for my hubris and WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN THEY TOLD THE CONTESTANTS THEY WERE BEING WATCHED RIGHT OFF THE BAT
Honestly idk if I'd have hated this game enough to make this video if it weren't for Naomi. I generally don't like to trash voice actors bc I know it's hard and I know that they often get a lot of undeserved hate but there's no forgiving that performance or Dreamloop's decision to use it.
my ears hurt. my brain hurts. every time she speaks i feel years taken off my lifespan
On one hand, I /think/ I get the intent of a Monokuma-esqe narrator: lit "I'm here to annoy you" (Hell of a choice to use that as an opener, either way)
On the other, she feels... Idk, weak? Pointless? Something about her feels flanderised. Like you take all the power away from an effective Killing Game host, and they keep going on about it either way. Like, who opens with "Dont make me drop the nukes"??
Then again, I'm only 13 minutes in to the video, so maybe my opinion will strengthen with time.
54:53 A missed opportunity is to have the character die irl if they die in the dream. (Maybe Harrison could just be injured if he chooses himself). Screw the routes, imagine CHOOSING who dies first.
THAT WOULD BE SUCH A COOL CONCEPT
Everyone would choose Harrison to be put out of this misery sooner, though.
@@shytendeakatamanoir9740 well this hypothetical is assuming the game wasn't trash, so still cool in concept!
Annnika’s treatment makes me SO angry as a neurodivergent person. Even DANGANRONPA had better autistic rep (my girl Himiko) and when Danganronpa portrays a neurodiverse character better than you, you should know that you’re doing something horribly, horribly wrong.
Autistic people in games like this (sans the aforementioned mage and Gin from YTTD who this doesn’t apply to, both of who happen to be my favorite characters in their respective games, go figure) and mostly autistic women tend to play a role of a sort of innocent lamb who never knows what’s going on and usually exists so they can be fetishized usually die to make the main (face it, male) main character sad and the treatment of these people as children makes all of that so so so much worse. Annika then, being explicitly tied to the lust route, portrays her neurodivergence as something to be fetishized.
Basically, she has a mental disability and the player is supposed to find that hot. And that is absolutely horribly ableist and even if the game didn’t have horrible amounts of bigotry, the abelism alone is enough to make this game irredeemable.
Edit: I just realized that she’s obviously also inspired by Himiko, down to going “Nyuh” instead of “Nyeh” which makes the ableism oh so much worse and obvious when they’re ripping off a better character but what do I expect.
So in Sasha's bio it mentions that her dislikes are "direct conflict" and "spotlight".....yet in their first meeting they are directly creating conflict and putting themselves in the spotlight and in their bio(literally just a paragraph up)states they are snarky and sarcastic. How in the world do you mess that up so badly? Who wrote the likes and dislikes? Clearly not someone who saw the game tf
gios coming out was litteraly one of the funniest moments ever period
I genuinely don’t think I’ve laughed that hard at anything for at least a couple years. I know I showed a couple clips of it in the video but on stream we were going off on it for a *while* because it was just too funny.
Giovanni Lombardi invented gay wrongs
@@Cosplaybuddygiraffeshe made them so jojo part 5 could run
I damn near spat out my drink at it because I'm already thinking "every angry guy I've had met have been aggressive towards me, but showed one particular thing..." Then the all caps text sent me and my drink to the heavens.
Also after crawling through the depths of this madness, I would like to offer up the hot take that everything about Annika's characterisation/profile reads to me as the writers _vehemently_ denying eating their cake even as we the audience can clearly see them stuffing themselves so sloppily that the frosting has covered up half their faces.
Her character design, voice acting, demeanour, the way she's posed in the character art all screams to me that they concieved of her as the "cute and childish big boob anime maid" archetype first and instead of either a.) owning the horny and working on making it actually sexy and compelling through good characterisation and looking at the psychology and appeal behind that fantasy or b.) seeing the badly designed horniness as a superflous drag and scrapping it altogether to do something different, I feel like they instead papered over the "developmental disability" thing on top as a way to badly pretend that they weren't indulging in badly executed fanservice with empty objectification while doing, well... _exactly that_ with no subtlety whatsoever
she uncannily reminds me of a finnish girl from akiba's trip and i cannot unsee the similarities
I dunno if I'm outing myself here, but that doesn't sound like a hot take, that just feels obvious? Like, the girl's design and demeanor is the most risque iteration of her character possible without making her naked, and it's all for the "service" of authorservice (because fanservice implies we asked for this), none of it important for her backstory or character development. Heck, it directly clashes against her actions in Suspicion, and the fact interacting with her leads to _that_ route specifically... 💀
Like, if you wanna steal from DR while still being homy for her design, at least steal Miu's personality or something. It won't make her automatically *good,* but it won't make them automatically on Chris Hansen's watchlist either.
@@SorarikoMotone Harrison looks a lot like Yuto from Akiba's Trip too
Giovanni being gay is probably the best part of this game. No notes. I support queer rights, but most importantly, I support queer wrongs lmao
I SUPPORT QUEER WRONGS!!!!!
To be honest, it makes me sad how Annika was treated during the game. She was and still is my favorite character because I enjoyed her cheerful, warm nature so much. It just makes my blood boil how often she is sexualized, probably just to fulfill the "sexy,clumsy maid" trope. I remember the one scene where Harrison groped her for "research purposes" or something and I just felt so uncomfortable and grossed out because it was just so unnecessary.Not to mention her lust route and how Harrison just treats her like garbage at the end makes me angry every time I think about it.I know this might sound weird, but I wish I could give her a hug because she's just such a sweet person and I really feel sorry for her (including her backstory and especially when she had that dialog saying how lonely she actually is).Annika deserves so much better....
I haven't played this but yeah I can tell this is the kind of character I'd get attached to, it sucks that she ends up treated so badly
i swear to fucking god, i never saw you stream this game, i never saw anything about this game, i didnt know this existed. But when i saw isak, i was like "is he norwegian" and then getting the confirmation just takes the soul out of my body
Something not covered in this video, but seen in the prologue, is that the group makes a terrible escape effort before most of this goes down.
They barely make it anywhere before getting tired and giving up. It really paints these characters as helpless in hilarious ways.
Yeah, I think I used the escape plan as background footage at some point in the video and I intended to mention it, but it honestly goes nowhere so I legitimately just forgot to include it in the “Shit I hate about the first 60 days” section where it was supposed to be lol
@@TheViveros you did at the tail end, I just finished the video, I jumped the gun on my comment!
Really happy for this video, btw, I always wanted to see what this game was like given its mixture of being overly expensive and thoroughly bland. Still worriedly terrified of what Annika’s Lust route entails, but given what Harrison does to Mia, I’m assuming the worst.
Shout out to the DRV3 cast for giving it their all trying to escape through the underground tunnel lmao
@@slowyourroll1146 Virgin single raft attempt vs chad repeated tunnel attempt
As someone whos favorite danganronpa characters are Gundham and Korekiyo, Isak feels like an attack on me personally. He really feels like a total misunderstanding of why both those characters are the way they are. He seems to have Gundham's outword personality, lacking any sense of subtilty, but Korekiyo's inward personality, or at least a surface level idea of both. But Isak doesn't have any of the nuance or depth of either. There is no reason why Isak is the way he is, which makes him far more boring of a character than either of them, and far less likeable.
Gundham, by contrast, seems to act the way he does because of his own insecurity and distrust toward others. Gundham isn't a bad person, but he doesn't particularly like other people, and tends to get bullied, so he like he is better than everyone around him so he can brush off their insults as not mattering due to coming from someone beneath him. Once you get past his abrasiveness and eccentric personality, he is actually a genuinely good person. You can see it in the way he treats animals, as he feels they won't judge him or hurt him the way humans will. Isak seems to have none of that. None of the insecurity, none of the hidden kindness, he's just weird and unpleasant.
Korekiyo, on the other hand, unlike Gundham, is entirely sincere in his presentation. He hides nothing (besides his face) and truly does not care what others think of him. He is eccentric, strange, and off-putting, but not because he tries to be. He just is. Isak is a little more similar to this, but still lacks the depth Korekiyo has. Isak is also more similar to Korekiyo in that they both seem to be a little sadistic (though Kiyo is also masochistic) and both seem to enjoy watching how everyone else handles the situation they've been put in. But, Korekiyo is more than these traits, where Isak seems to stop here. Korekiyo also has a deep, genuine love for humanity and all its facets. But also, Korekiyo is deeply traumatized, which lead to huge aspects of his personality. Though he is an unreliable narrator to his own story, what Korekiyo tells us about himself and his sister paint a very uncomfortable picture in which he certainly appears to be a victim. No matter how much he romanticizes it, it absolutely affected him negatively and lead to deep, lasting trauma which, after her death, lead to his unhinged ideas that lead to his crimes. There is a clear line of events which, if you trace it back, you can get some idea of who Korekiyo may have been before, or could be without the abuse he suffered. He may have actually been a good person, with how much love and care he showed his sick sister (which she very likely took advantage of. Remember, she is the older one, and he seems very subservient to her.)
Isak, on the other hand, just seems like an asshole. None of the love, none of the passion, nothing that makes Gundham and Korekiyo interesting characters. At least, from how he was presented in his video. I can't fully judge without playing the game, but man, with how much I love these characters, I had to say something or the thoughts would rot in my brain forever.
Well said 👏🏼
as an author who’s lately been doubting themselves and their latest story that dips into this genre, This has given me so much hope and also shown me not what to do. Thank you for taking one for the team and sitting thru this slog for all of us. I am so, so sorry about the Wonderland scene. You probably have some form of resistance now to horribly uncomfortable scenarios, and you would be the survivor at the end of this.
Personally I think the devs should have to give anyone who played this to completion 500,000 too :)