How to replace Thinkpad T440s touchpad with T450s touchpad with buttons
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
- The Lenovo Thinkpad T440s was released with the nigh unusable touchpad with integrated buttons, that was a complete disaster from a usability standpoint. Unsurprisingly the touchpad was replaced with a proper one in T450s which turns out to be compatible with the T440s. Should also work with T440p.
The laptop is now much more usable than it was before.
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all those flatflex cables: the connector has a tab you have to FLIP UP so it unlocks properly. that's also how it must be when you want to reinsert the cable. after reinserting the cable, flip the tab down again.
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Forgot to read this before I went mucking around in my computer and broke it. Whoops!
Excellent video - exactly what I wanted to do. Let me share some shortcuts I found:
1. No need to remove the keyboard. I simply skipped this step and it made no difference.
2. Use a magic marker to mark the screw holes used by the back cover - before removing the mother board screws - so you do not accidentally try to put mobo screws in those holes.
3. No need to disconnect the internal battery. Just unscrew it and put it aside.
4. Was not able to undo the connector to the left of the internal battery (was afraid of breaking it) and, of course, the ribbon cable under it. So I kept them both connected and gently lifted the mobo and removed the 2 left screws with a short, thin screwdriver.
5. I did not replace the upper left trackpad screw because it is not necessary and will make removal easier later if ever needed.
6. As mentioned elsewhere my new T450 trackpad did not come with a ribbon cable. Was able to re-use the old one with no problem.
7. I did have some driver issues, but disabling the device and rebooting seems to have fixed it. Double tapping on the trackpad only works if you tap slowly.... Yes, I tried to adjust it in the control panel.... even with high sensitivity. Will try the driver recommended by George E.
8. No problems with the keyboard backlight.
Rule of thumb, always disconnect all power when opening up electronics. Why? Apart from your possible electrocution, in applicable situations, you may drop a screw, or inadvertently touch contacts or traces with your metallic tool. In this context, the laptop may be powered down, but there is power flowing through some rails, which means short circuits are a possibility if you drop a screw on two exposed terminals or whatever.
From my own experience, I can say that IT IS NECESSARY to remove the keyboard before loosening the motherboard. There are two ribbon cables connecting the keyboard and the motherboard, one is for the keys and the other one for the trackpoint. Otherwise, you may risk damaging one of those connectors or even both if you lift the motherboard to gain access to the touchpad screws. In my case, I accidentally removed the smaller ribbon cable while lifting the motherboard and later found my new touchpad without functioning trackpoint and trackpoint buttons. First I thought it is a driver or compatibility problem, but it was simply my laziness not to touch the keyboard ;-)
@@MR-is2mq In my experience I have a greater chance of breaking the ribbon connectors when I detach/attach them so I try not to.
@@rhertz9829 OK, it's worth a try. If it fails, you may reattach the cables...
@@MR-is2mq I'm just telling you what worked for me.
Good guide, I like that it showcases common struggles that a novice would have so we know what to avoid instead of editing it and getting it 100% correct. RIP alt key.
You might not need to change the touch pad. I was planning to replace the touch pad and this video convinced me that it was not going to be to hard. Great video, thank you.Thing is that after reading the comments I found out smth and changed my mind. One comment was that the factory touch pad works good by JustJoe76. That made me think of my only problem with the factory touch pad - right click- hard to do it without moving the mouse. Mouse moves when I do a right-click, 90% of the time, and the selected text for example, deselects, what a pain you have to select again and try slowly really slowly to right click it. Not any more. As of few minutes ago I thought to check touch pad properties. Guess what I found. You can right-click by clicking/tapping with 2-fingers. Try tapping with 2 fingers and if your right-click is improved, you might not need to change the touch pad at all. :)
Excellent guide!!! He tells you what to do, step by step and also tells you what to be aware and points out his mistakes. By doing that I found I made the exact same mistake and was able to fix it before I had completely assembled it. Many sites don't do this since they never make mistakes.
Wonderful instructions. I had 0 issues. Everything works great without any driver updates. I didn't remove the keyboard completely or disconnect the battery -- just worked around them.
From my own experience, I can say that IT IS NECESSARY to remove the keyboard before loosening the motherboard. There are two ribbon cables connecting the keyboard and the motherboard, one is for the keys and the other one for the trackpoint. Otherwise, you may risk damaging one of those connectors or even both if you lift the motherboard to gain access to the touchpad screws. In my case, I accidentally removed the smaller ribbon cable while lifting the motherboard and later found my new touchpad without functioning trackpoint and trackpoint buttons. First I thought it is a driver or compatibility problem, but it was simply my laziness not to touch the keyboard ;-)
Thanks for this. I just replaced the touchpad in my 440s and it makes all the difference in the world. I like that you messed up here and there, makes it all the more approachable to others.. I almost fucked up the holder of the flat cable of my new touchpad, which didn't come with its own cable. It was therefore slightly too long, but that shouldn't make whole lot of difference. Next project: replace the keyboard by a backlit one.
My t450s Touchpad came without the 90° degree ribbon cable.
What i found out is: the ribbon cable connector on the t450s touchpad is a few mm lower (away from the keyboard). So I had to squeeze it in so it makes an S bend. Fortunatly in this place there is a little nitch in the casing so the ribbon cable doesn't kink.
Anyway it works, so don't be concerned when your t450s touchpad comes without a ribbon cable.
Wait, so did you just use your old 440s ribbon cable then?
Thanks worked like a charm. order parts from aliexpress noticed the color was more blue black then black. just a FYI if anyone cares. hardest part was that dreaded top left screw on the back of the touchpad.
This video doesn't have enough likes. I am looking in to getting a t440s and knowing that I can put the t450s touch pad on it is nice to know.
That's the hard part of making youtube videos, getting noticed.
CABLE/KINKS ! You will need a T450 Trackpad cable ! The original is too long and kinks. Most sell the trackpad without the cable, presuming you will use your old one (that does not fit PROPERLY !). The T450 cable/part no is 'DA30000EQ10'. The old trackpad cable is not only too long, but is it also just designed to work with the Non button version ? The T450 cable IS defo for the trackpad with the integrated buttons, so I suggest you use that cable as its the perfect fit! Someone on ebay does sell the pads with the correct cable for your laptop model for about £31. Or simply buy the trackpad & cable separate.
I have used both but prefer the T440s trackpad. Its smooth and more accurate.
Yeah I also like it more
Probably cuz I'm used to it tho
Nice video but why not mention that you neeed to disable something in bios BEFORE the thing is unassembled!
Had one at work, never missed the buttons, also use Logitech Touchpad, no buttons there and they're not missed or needed ;) 440s works great with the original touchpad.
Not everyone of us is into masochism but great that it worked out for you.
@@Purkkaviritys Yup I agree. Though in linux I have remapped mouse buttons to some of my keyboard keys (AltGr, PrtSc). It works, but still ...
thenks
Good guide. The Keyboard fix screws are at the front very different from the previous one. I don't enjoy it.
So, are the keyboard caps frequently broken?
That was me simply applying too much pressure with the screwdriver.
nice video, but why do you even unscrew the keyboard? it can stay in place for the whole time. and for all the others wanting to try it yourself: take care to align the new touchpad properly in the first place so you do not have to open it up again.
Because of the flat cable that connects the keyboard to the motherboard got uncomfortably tight, so I was able to give it more slack by unscrewing the keyboard.
Ah okay, I understand. I was able to do it without disconnecting it. Works like a charm.
@@sliminat0r From my own experience, I can say that IT IS NECESSARY to remove the keyboard before loosening the motherboard. There are two ribbon cables connecting the keyboard and the motherboard, one is for the keys and the other one for the trackpoint. Otherwise, you may risk damaging one of those connectors or even both if you lift the motherboard to gain access to the touchpad screws. In my case, I accidentally removed the smaller ribbon cable while lifting the motherboard and later found my new touchpad without functioning trackpoint and trackpoint buttons. First I thought it is a driver or compatibility problem, but it was simply my laziness not to touch the keyboard ;-)
What's the story behind the "this is not a camera" sticker over the Lenovo logo
I remember it being made because someone had put a camera in an Airbnb to spy on people and put a sticker on it, so some enterprising hackers printed a bunch more and distributed them during defcon 24 and they ended up on just about everything, especially things that obviously are not cameras. This is how I remember it, I might be wrong though on the origin.
I'm not sure if i should just buy a low profile screwdriver or remove the whole motherboard or... risk snapping the motherboard.
if you are unsure, just get the tool and unscrew it the rest of the way, far cheaper than a new motherboard.
Does the T450s touchpad still allow pressing-to-click at any place on it, or does it require the use of tap-to-click only?
Thanks for this video. A really nice guide. I just replaced the touchpad of my T440s and it is so much better. However I have one issue: I cannot screw the middle screws on the left and right side of the backcover in anymore. They just don't seem to reach the hole anymore. If I screw a screw in with the backcover of it works, but with the backcover in between the screw doesn't seem to reach down far enough anymore. Do you know how to fix this?
using the screw holes in the bottom cover as a guide, check that you haven't put screws in those holes already when you put the motherboard in place.
I've checked that already. The holes are free. It's as if the screws are simply too short. But they were in there before and the casing does completely close, so I don't get whats causing this.
there are tabs that are supposed to hold the bottom casing in place, mine are broken so they don't get in the way but you might want to check those.
Is it still a good machine nowadays? Is the fan noise quiet? I am considering to buy one of those and install linux in it. Thanks.
Well, you aren't going to play games on this laptop as it only has Intel integrated graphics, however due to the power limitations that laptops have, a 4 year old laptop is still quite good for most tasks and this particular model can be acquired for cheap, but if you can get the T450s for a similar price, I would go for it instead as then you won't need to do this mod but if I remember correctly that machine comes default with no touch screen so if that is your thing, go for the T440s and do the touchpad mod as the original touchpad is atrocious. The fan noise isn't that bad tbh, you can hear it under heavy load but its not distracting in my opinion.
That said the T440s is still my daily driver for linux use.
Vinicio Coelho I still use my T440S with Ubuntu on it. So far no problems with basic tasks and VMs.
albercuba I bought a t440 and put 8gb ram and a 256 gb ssd. I am very happy with it. I am using deepin on it and it runs line a charm. The only problem I am having is to set up xampp, but it is not the computer fault.
Vinicio Coelho yes I also added another 8gb of ram and a 256gb ssd. I don't use xampp,and I haven't installed Apache, mysql directly in a while because I run them with docker or in VMs and everything runs without a problem.
Hi, what I must replace the t440s touchpad connector cable to T450s cable ? I already replace the touchpad but 3 button not working ?
I used the cable that came with the t450s touchpad, so its possible that you need it or that the touchpad is broken.
Any suggestions on what drivers work best for Windows 10. I've installed, thanks to your video, but the 3 buttons don't work and even the red thinkpad button in the middle of the keyboard doesn't work either. Only the pad works, pretty much just the same as the one I just replaced.
speedtwins04 I’m sure that you have found a solution by now. But there is a driver out there for it. Not sure if it works with windows 10 though. I’m getting this laptop and I’m considering going back to windows 7... windows 10 is garbage no offense Intended...
Thanks for the guide! I have put the T450s touchpad in my T440s and the touchpad works, but I can't use two finger gestures like scroll or right click in Windows 10, nor is there a menu for it. Anybody experiencing the same issue? I've found that manually installing the T540 touchpad driver on this machine gives the touchpad full functionality, but unfortunately Windows 10 keeps "updating" to the "correct" driver, which again corrupts two-finger gestures... also disabling Windows 10 automatic driver update didn't prevent this occurring. Anybody?
That's Windows 10 for you, check Show/Hide tool from Microsoft its should allow you to "hide" the driver update so it wont get installed.
Hey Georg E, I am making the same experience like you. How did you fix the problem?
This driver works support.lenovo.com/de/de/downloads/ds101993 (it says it's for ThinkPad Yoga 15, but it works with the T450s touchpad in the T440s). To make it work first uninstall and delete all drivers for the touchpad from device manager (until it says PS2 compatible mouse in device manager). Then manually install the driver (that you unpacked before to a location on your hard drive by running the .exe and clicking install (which means unpack in Lenovo English) -> don't follow 'install now' after the install=unpacking part. When manually installing the driver, navigate to the unpacked folder on your disk and chose "Apfiltr.inf" in the Vi64 folder. Then click OK and pick "Alps Electric" => Model "ThinkPas UltraNav" . It will warn you. Ignore it. Done. Now smart windows will try to install a better driver for you on every update... which is worse and doesn't work. So we want to avoid that. So I edited group policy (which I think is not available in the home edition of windows). Run gpedit.msc . And follow this instruction www.howtogeek.com/263851/how-to-prevent-windows-from-automatically-updating-specific-drivers/ to prevent the update for this particular device. I hope somebody finds this helpful.
So, essentially, what you're saying is, that if I am having issues after completing the mouse upgrade, it's because I don't have a synaptics?
I bought a 3 button touchpad on ebay (or somewhere), and I too am having the issues described above. I have both left and right click functionality, and my center button is acting as a scrolling button, but I really prefer the two finger gesture scroll function. You're telling me that if I follow your write up above I will keep everything I have now and I will achieve two finger gestures?
You should make a video. Which files exactly do I delete? I feel a little apprehensive about that part. Afraid of screwing something up.
@@th3frogman You don't have to delete any files. The device manager bit basically just tells Windows to not use certain drivers, which were associated with the device before. UPDATE: Recent Windows 10 updates have completely rendered the touchpad unusable (thanks Microsoft!). I have now installed Linux on it and at least the computer is usable again...
It is not necessary to take off the keyboard. It is possible to do this mod without touching the keyboard.
>be me
>follows 0:46
>closes lid to get to backside
>IT FUCKING CRACKS THE 120HZ 1080P TOUCHSCREEN OF MY i7 T440S
From my own experience, I can say that IT IS NECESSARY to remove the keyboard before loosening the motherboard. There are two ribbon cables connecting the keyboard and the motherboard, one is for the keys and the other one for the trackpoint. Otherwise, you may risk damaging one of those connectors or even both if you lift the motherboard to gain access to the touchpad screws. In my case, I accidentally removed the smaller ribbon cable while lifting the motherboard and later found my new touchpad without functioning trackpoint and trackpoint buttons. First I thought it is a driver or compatibility problem, but it was simply my laziness not to touch the keyboard ;-)
The buttons don't work. What make I wrong?
you probably have the wrong driver for the touchpad, see forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=126860
Followed everything here, and did it very carefully, and my t440 wont power up. And yes, i disabled the power in the bios before the swap and double checked that i reconnected the batteries. Any ideas?
if you disabled the power from bios you need to connect the batteries and then connect the charger, the charger tells the batteries to come online so the machine can power on.
@@Purkkaviritys thank you. That did it!
After I replace my T440s Touchpad, The double click doesn't wok anymore.
Anyway, can you put that inverted? I want the button on the bottom not the top
well technically anything is possible, but good luck trying to find the flex cable required to connect it.
this notice is the same for the x260 ??????
7:00 Arghh does the new one still "sink" when you press on it? This was the reason I wanted to change the original one!
Real question (before buying this new trackpad): what's the point in changing the clickpad to another clickpad that "sinks" when you do a mouse tap? @Purkkaviritys
the terrible design they brought with the T440 is only in T440, every single machine like the T450 afterwards came with a touchpad meant for normal people and since the T450 touchpad works with the T440, you can get a proper touchpad by doing the swap.
does this worked on e540?
I see your battery is different than the stock model. Did you replace it? If yes please share me the part number.
The internal or the external one?
Internal was original and the external is just the basic slim battery ( Lenovo Battery 68 3 Cell )
Hmm.....kinda worried watching a "Repair / Mod" video where things BREAK!....LoL!
It's actually important to include stuff that does go wrong, so that the person who sees it is capable of avoiding such missteps, the keyboard is a delicate thing in laptops.
3:20 lol
horrible touchpad
Hello, could I also do the same with my T540p ?
Thanks in advance
I'd wager so, as they are the same generation so they more than likely share parts, but cant be entirely sure as I don't have a T540p myself.
Sweet 👌
What screwdriver kit are you using?
The original iFixit 'Pro Tech Toolkit'
The current 'Pro Tech Toolkit' looks a little bit different but does the same job as well if not better.
Thanks a lot for your answer.
Can you do this on T440P too?
yes, the parts for it are the same.
cool
Tapio?
Do you have to swap ribbons between trackpads before placing the permanent trackpad?
The ribbon cables should be identical so there probably isn't a reason to move the cable from one trackpad to the other unless the other does not have one.
Purkkaviritys Thank you for the fast reply! Any extra tips to avoid breaking any keys besides being gentle with the keyboard 😅?
You may not need to remove the keyboard, that depends on how tight the keyboard ribbon cable gets, if you do remove it, be careful on how you press down the tabs with the flat head screw driver because I think I broke it while messing with those, you can see how ALT it mysteriously breaks between 6:18 and 6:28, its also possible that it was just broken before I started the modification and it was just the last straw that broke the tiny parts holding the key in.
Purkkaviritys Thankyou again for the amazing info and tips!
Purkkaviritys I have a wooden floor in living room. Should I bee weary of electrical discharges and what do you recommend? I don’t have a wrist strap or anti-static mat . I do have a hobby/cutting mat.
Take off keyboard is not necessary
technically strictly not necessary but makes the work easier.
From my own experience, I can say that IT IS NECESSARY to remove the keyboard before loosening the motherboard. There are two ribbon cables connecting the keyboard and the motherboard, one is for the keys and the other one for the trackpoint. Otherwise, you may risk damaging one of those connectors or even both if you lift the motherboard to gain access to the touchpad screws. In my case, I accidentally removed the smaller ribbon cable while lifting the motherboard and later found my new touchpad without functioning trackpoint and trackpoint buttons. First I thought it is a driver or compatibility problem, but it was simply my laziness not to touch the keyboard ;-)
Waste of time, buy a mouse, who in the world use the Touchpad from a Laptop...
sure, that works great, when you have a table which you sometimes don't have because laptops are you know, mobile computing devices.
(OS:Linux) Same procedure for the T540p🙄?🤔
I'd appreciate that.🥲
yes its should work the same way (but I haven't personally tried it), you may need to swap the flatflex cable form the original to the new touchpad
this notice is the same for the x260 ??????
I don't know, I dont have a X260 to test with.