Upgrading your instrument panel
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- Опубликовано: 31 май 2024
- Upgrading your instrument panel
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All killer. No filler.
Wow, l fully agree with your wife, that panel looks “factory “. Great job!
You’re a rockstar for keeping this to your brilliant short and sweet format and resisting the urge to make this a 20 part series ❤🎉 Great panel!
Awesome analysis. So many people that have never flown behind a modern avionics suite cannot grasp the monumental difference in capabilities and especially situational awareness this new technology provides. Avidyne equipment is also fantastic, as I recently flew a Cirrus with it and it is equally incredible. Synthetic vision was in the realm of Star Wars to me but I immediately became a fan on my first approach. My Garmin 530/ King panel which I was so proud of in my Tr182 now screams at me to be upgraded. The feature that the Dynon has that I love is the angled button panel that you can rest your hand on. If it is even mildly bumpy manipulating touch screens or button pads is difficult without a place to anchor your hand.
Yeah I agree. I never intended on glass but somehow ended up fitting a G3X and now I’m wondering why I didn’t do it sooner.
Yay, another Complete Walkaround video!
I’m an old school guy. Helicopter pilot by trade. But I love planes with round motors and steam gauges. A little over a year ago I transitioned from firefighting in Hueys to SPIFR in a EC-135 and my god my whole perspective changed. Yea the old planes are still cooler. But if you have to work a machine and especially if you’re IFR glass cockpit and autopilot sure make life easier.
"In my citation" Im sorry you have a citation now?
Hypothetically speaking
I knew RUclips influencers made a lot of money, but whoa! 😂
@@CompleteWalkaround oh lol
Can you make a video about the DG-808B airplane?
I am a new plane owner as well and upgraded the avionics in my Grob 109B Motor glider from a basic radio and transponder to a better radio and ADS-B in and out with an IPad EFB. It's made a huge upgrade in safety for me. While I still fly with the pneumatic gauges having a backup GPS AHRS is helpful. I love this content and glad the upgrade in your plane is behind you. Fly safe and I am looking forward to more complete walkaround videos.
Hey Brian, Thanks and congrats on the purchase.
Congratulations on the new panel. Your RV is now the aviation equivalent of a mullet - business in the front, party in the back (or, everywhere else in this case). Very nice mullet.
Thanks for the great video! Hey I love Dynon and Garmin, but FYI just about any public company is going to have a lot of shares owned by institutional investors - who might be rich folk or just people representing your 401k, pension, and so forth. In the case of Garmin - it is is nearly one-quarter owned by insiders, which is rare and tremendous. Elon Musk doesn't own as much of Tesla as Garmin's CEO and other insiders own of Garmin... well as a percent at least. :)
GORGEOUS!
And also strengthening the reason why the plane I buy should be EAB or E-LSA. Or even a S-LSA re-registered in E-LSA. Then again, that all changes soon when MOSAIC final rule is released. (I know, US stuff.)
Thats a beautiful panel in a RV-3! Or any aircraft! Great job sir!!
Such a great video. Was looking at a RV-3 recently but the lack of good panel options swayed me towards the RV-6. Didn't realize it could be so clean and compact.
Wow! It's so impressive. All of the days in the cold hanger during our cold Canadian winter has paid off for you. Congratulations ... great job!
The wind arrow is extremely nice!
Please do a video on a Sling 2. I saw the TSi video but I want to see how the Sling 2 compares!
I'm enjoying the shift in subject matter AND it still counts as a "complete walkaround" of your panel install (and great balance of illustrations, real world footage, and your signature narrative style)! You really could do a "complete walkaround" of anything, which this video demonstrates. Great to see you again posting!
Ooh nice upgrade. Hope you going to do some more vids now😁, have missed them but can see where your time has gone. Happy flying 😀👋🇬🇧
We did a partial upgrade last year too and battled major QA issues of the parts ordered, not very helpful customer service and unnecessary delays.
Still worth it, especially the new aluminum panel!
I fly two RV-8s, one with a basic small Dynon D10 and steam gauges, and one with Dynon Skyview HDX, synthetic vision, autopilot, etc. They are both VFR only because I’m in the UK and IFR approval for a homebuilt is super hard to get. I fly a lot of aeros, formation, and mock combat in both, and the one with the steam gauges is easier to fly because the instrumentation is easier to read at a glance.
I would choose the one with the Skyview HDX for any IFR flying in a heartbeat though.
Just when I think you couldn't get any cooler, you go and do this! Much respect!
Nice recap and a spectacular job!!!
Bravo! Glad to see I'm not the only one that desires to avoid dealing with the dark overseers of the evil empire, Garmin. GRT in the past three RV builds and planning on Dynon in my current HRII build.
Always love your videos!! Makes me want my own plane so bad!
Nice panel! Good decision for a lot of aspects.
Only recently found your channel and it's fantastic! Instant-subscribe. Well done!
Such a great video, fantastic job with that installation and really good takes on the buyer's perspective.
Looks great. Congrats. F Black Rock.
Came back into flying after a 15 ye hiatus into experimental Light Sport. Having not much experience with Glass, the Dynon and their autopilot that was in the plane I bought, made getting back in the saddle a breeze...id never go back to steam, unless I was kicking and screaming . Love Dynon, great choice!
Nice build
I've never heard of Dynon. Now, I don't own a GA aircraft, and I haven't flown one for 20 years or so (I'm an airline pilot), but I'm still a little surprised I've never heard of them. I love the look of them - they look more ... technical, less "pc game".
F Blackrock! Go underdog! Love the Dynon.
NICE! Congrats.
I know Garmin avionics menus and layouts like the back of my hand so I tend to gravitate towards that but I would like some more time behind a dynon panel. I'd love an RV-8 (really a harmon rocket but we'll see) and would like a G3X or similar. Dynon looks like a great (and multitudes less expensive) option.
As usual, an awesome video. Looking at the Garmin display, it seems clean and less cluttered, while the Dynon looks busy and harder to scan quickly. Would love your detailed take on that observation. The decision tree you presented makes eminent sense, but I’m mainly interested in the user interface and experience while flying, rather than any of the issues you mentioned (save for the horizontal/vertical orientation bit).
It's the same. You can edit what's displayed and where. Show as much or little detail/info as you like.
Actually my art deco panels needles have been pointing all over for 78 years. But I want this. 😊
yk what has a nice panel? the 1946 aeronca 7ac champ, you should perhaps do a video on it
Garmin actually makes a bunch of their stuff in my homestate of Kansas USA. They do have offices in other countries though.
Indeed. They have 3 factories in Taiwan, 1 in China and 2 in USA.
Very nice upgrade, and described in a very well done video. Curious if you came out with an overall weight saving from the upgrade.
You didn't tell us how much money?
Probably because he got a significant discount, which aye, good for him
@@chalabama80 If he had, he would have said so.
If you bought this exact panel it would cost about 20k USD. The price of a panel varies so much depending what you get. Getting a quote is very easy and fast for exactly what you're interested in if you call them up. The price of my exact panel would be fairly different then someone got something similar with just a few differences.
@@CompleteWalkaround Also (at least here in the US), the price of your avionics will also depend on whether it's a certified airplane (Part 23) or Experimental. The certified version of a piece of equipment will be upwards of 50% more expensive than the experimental version. (I believe Dynon offers certified components, but not 100% sure). Also, another more recent player on the avionics market and making a big splash, is uAvionix. Their catalog is small, but growing quickly.
Olathe, Kansas is the start and US home of Garmin. My hometown.
Thanks for your video. Make another one on how to transform from avgas to mogas your rv... sounds good?. (I am thinking to buy an RV7 Lycoming YIO-360-M1B avgas and wondering how difficult will be to make it mogas friendly).
Nice!! No IFR GPS??
As someone who flies both steam gauge Cessnas and Entegra-equipped Warriors at the same school, the difference, especially when you do instrument flying, is stark. The Entegra is just so much better than steam gauges and it's the oldest GA glass panel. I can imagine the difference between steam and modern glass is cavernous considering how many more features new glass has over Entegras.
The panel looks great. I'm very surprised how nice the lower lip looks on the 7" screens. Is it as useful as I'm imaging while flying?
Aye
My old aerobat still has the antique clockwork gauges. It is the ugliest plane, but works good.
I upgraded my 1978 steam gauge panel 172 with all Garmin. 10” g3x a 750txi and gfc500 autopilot. The cost of the equipment was 50k. The labor? 60k. All in after it was all said and done I paid about 120k for a full Garmin upgrade. Plus a few other things like led lights etc made it totaling to 130k for the upgrade.
“Garmin drive-in theaters” I’m dying! 😂😂😂
Looks great! Did you consider Avidyne? We have a full Avidyne system and love it! We did not pick it we bought it with the plane so… didn’t have to look elsewhere!
Thanks. I didn't. Avidyne would have quadrupled my cost.
Hello! Could you please do a Pipistrel Virus Cost to Own please!
Congratulations!
I knew you could do it!
You forgot that Dynon has a color coded wiring harness. After buying the more expensive Garmin equipment you then have to source the expensive wiring that is not color coded.
I did know that the images were reversed... Because the EIS on Garmin is vertical, no other real difference.
Fun fact, if you make friends with an A&P and have him "help" you, you can also DIY on your certified plane
Garmin Aviation is largely made in Salem, Oregon. I live just down the road from there, and flown my plane into an "open house" there. That said, I'm not much of a Garmin fan either. I'm more of an Avidyne simp myself. :)
They have 3 factories in Taiwan, 1 in China and 2 in the USA. I just thought it was funnier to say it the other way.
Totally 😁
Looks fantastic ! did you need a avionics mechanic to over see or sign off your work ?
Thanks. Didn't need anyone to do anything
Great project, how does the autopilot work?
I guess that it needs to control engine and aircraft control surfaces?!?!
It controls pitch and roll only
At this point, I can't imaging venturing into IMC without glass panel instruments. Too many stories of vacuum pumps failing, and disaster following shortly. Plus every time my instructor pulled that one on me in the sim, I crashed!
What's the difference between the hard/expensive ways that you described and slapping an iPad in there? Like does it work well enough to avoid all that cost and work?
I pad stuff has come a long way. No question. Especially when paired with something that gives it pitot static like the lvel Bom. No matter what you do though, iPads a gimic at best. I wouldnt go beyond day vfr with an iPad as a primary source of anything beyond a chart. (Even then 2 iPads are required to be legal as a chart.) So, if you're talking day vfr doesn't really matter what you have. Anything beyond a couple of steam gauges is superfluous.
I am glad you didn’t go with Garmin. I have generally not liked there products but I also had bad experience with them. They once blatantly copied a product I was selling. I wasn’t sure until I opened it up and saw they copied my mistakes. It as my first mass production product so it has a few amateur mistakes. The fact the copied it, mistakes and all, always left me wondering how competent they are.
Oh weird. That's brutal
Synthetic vision is, in my experience (600 hours so far), a so what. Maybe in mountainous terrain at low altitude...
Approaches in low IFR is the main benefit I would say. Though, turns out finding grass runways in a sea of farm fields is handy too
Next upgrade - wing silhouettes so you can make the Bat-symbol when you do go vertical against a full-moon backdrop ;p
Indeed. Can I borrow some duct tape?
@CompleteWalkaround sure. You know the garage code
I still say I'd rather do the avionics install in your Winter than the Texas summer. I can wear insulated coveralls in the Winter, but crawling around in a tail cone when it's 100+ ambient? I dunno, maybe we can say they're both "the suck" I guess.
Ya I don't know if I'd even say the cold was that bad. Tiny wires with gloves doesn't work well and the extra clothes didn't help the tight spaces. Otherwise it wasn't too bad. The lack of ppl stopping by was good for productivity.
@@CompleteWalkaround I'm considering going the homebuilt route with a helicopter once I get my add-on. I've been eyeballing the Safari 500; perfect puddle hopper for my personal needs. Then again, you never know how things go; I might end up buying something prebuilt instead.
@@shawnedwards5369 there's a safari in the hangar next to mine, not sure which one. It sees a lot of action. The builder also built a mosquito but didn't like that as much.
Can you do a Globe Swift in a hurry?
Going shopping tonight?
You are an animal! Wow, what a task. Good for you. And now when it needs service, there's a tech that knows every wire nut and screw. You
How long would it take if you had all the stuff and basically did a speed run? I'm trying to imagine how it could possibly take multiple full 8-hour days of continuous tinkering.
Weeks. Maybe 2 months. For me in this plane anyway
@@CompleteWalkaround Ooof. Truly wish I had that level of DIY in me
One video with no price tag mentioned?
Yeah, ask that Taiwan location if the parts are made in the US. lol
Why did you stop posting for a while?
I was upgrading my panel
@@CompleteWalkaroundi thought you could edit videos from a glass cockpit, isn't that the case?
Garmin being owned by blackrock is enough of a reason to buy from another company!
Garmin isn’t owned by BlackRock.
BlackRock owns 5.8% of Garmin making it the 4th largest owner behind two founding individuals and Vanguard fiduciary trust.
"owned by blackrock" means you own it through the etfs in your retirement account. along with vanguard the other major etf company their combined "ownership" is the managed funds of just about every Americans squired away money that will eventually and hopefully cover every americans personal expences for many years. when you think about it that ownership is kinda small. the combined retirement resources of every working stiff in this country properly diversified only comes out to 8% of garmin, like who ownes the rest.
You always add, cost to own info..... why not here?? Even if you have a sponsor, you could just list retail.
About 20k for this one