🙏 THANKS, man !!! This was probably the BEST breakdown of the different types of roofing nails I've found on RUclips... Now I know A LOT more and feel I can make a MUCH better decisiom for my house 🏠 Thanks much ❤👍🎯
Thank you, Scott. It's not always the most thought about aspect of a new roofing system, but this definitely is an important component. Glad you found some value for your project!
I just had my roof redone. I did a lot of research first. Most contractors wanted to use electro-galvanized nails. I wanted hot-dipped nails which have a lifespan of 30 to 50 years. Some contractors were resistant to that. One contractor was happy to oblige, and that's who I went with. I assumed that the HD nails would be ring shanked, but they were smooth shank. I should have specified HD ring-shank nails. But I have a plywood deck. Plywood has about twice the nail-holding ability compared to OSB. So I felt that the smooth shank would still be ok, especially since I don't live in a high wind area. I specified pretty much every roofing component I wanted to be used on the roof, from the underlayment to nails to flashing to vents to the pipe flashing to the exact shingles and hip & ridge to be used. It was more spendy than going with the low-price bidder, but I now have a great roof that will last decades, and it will be cheaper in the long run.
I wonder about that as far as nails. I currently have Tamko Heritage shingles on my roof. They have been on there for about 5 years now. I don't have a soffit at all, so attic ventilation is poor, only gable and box vents. So far I've seen a few shingles curling up or bulging a little. I know they used the industry standard nails on my roof. So I wonder if the nails are starting to rust and push out, haven't checked yet. I know from a previous project noticed a few over driven nails. That being said I am about to do a major roof job myself. I am placing new OSB on the old 1x 6 boards. Adding a soffit and overhang, as well as ridge vent. Installing Atlas pinnacle pristine shingles. With what your saying I may invest a little extra for ring shank stainless steel nails.
I think you will find some peace of mind in reducing those failure points on day one. We are offering galvanized ring shank as well. Pricing we see per box is around $20 for regular nails, $60 for ring shank galvanized, and around $200 for stainless ring shank. Cap nails are around $100 a box for stainless as well. We love our Atlas shingles too. Only 4 nails needed in most cases so save a little on the nails there. When it's time to reroof, if intake is an issue there is an intake option on the roof that will help that attic to breathe a little easier as well. Thanks for commenting and enjoy your next project!
asphaltlife.atlasroofing.com/article/atlas-roofing-launches-ventilation-products The HighPoint intake may be a great solution for intake in your future as well!
I went ahead and subscribed mostly b/c I like your style of explaining things. Clearly you are intelligent and not your typical "roofer" that I've interacted with. Not that I am in the roofing business mind you, I know that was a blanket insulting statement. I'm just a very curious DIYer who's having to re-roof a 12x8 shed and am planning to use up some of the electro-galvanized nails I already have in my tool shed. Disappointed to hear those are the lowest quality of roofing nails to use, but thanks for the information. Thorough! Loved it! However, your explanations and videos assume one is using shingles no? What about just attaching the decking to the rafters, I guess. I plan on putting some corrugated sheet metal on top of the plywood decking I'm going to use. Thanks again! I can't believe there aren't more comments on here.
Thank you, Hum Rod for the kind words. Yes, the video does kind of assume shingle installation. In terms of using a screw down metal roof, same idea would apply to stainless vs galvanized screws. The weak point of an exposed fastener is the gasket. Let me know if you have questions, always happy to help!
@@happyhomeroofing3326 Also, the initial image on your video shows 3 types of nails. One with the "screwey" shank, not a ring-shanked nail yet you never mentioned or described that one at all in your video. Just an observation, not suggesting you redo the video. Given I am only doing a small shed, like I said earlier, I won't be using a nail gun at all. So...I guess one less worry about the blade/plate impacting the nail head and cracking/breaking/peeling the galvanized coating. I do wonder, just thinking out loud here, doesn't the hot dipping galvanization process somewhat negate the ring shanks ability to grip onto the wood?
@@humrod1852 good question on the rink shank and the hot dipped impact. I have never run the test myself to verify. I have never seen that test result published or on video for that matter either. In our practice we prefer stainless, but will still offer galvanized if someone truly must watch the budget. Worst case, ring shank is always an advantage. Appreciate the discussion!
I live near Louisville KY, and am about to have roof replaced. Appreciate your video. I’m having a hard time located a source for hot dipped or stainless roofing nails. What brand could you recommend? Thanks
Glad you found some value in the video. If you work with a contractor, ABC supply can order the nails at a fair cost. Locally, I am the only one ordering so they may not be familiar with this item. If you order yourself, the price is a touch higher due to shipping. I don't think brand as much as material and shank are key here. Here is a link that may help. Best of luck on the big project! www.bestmaterials.com/detail.aspx?ID=23112
Read to the viewers and explain the warranty of a 50 year shingle and what's actually covered.So many people don't understand it.How many times have you heard it when you tell them they need a reroof and they say its only been on 15 years.E.G nails are fine your roof will leave you before they command if a smooth shank want hold it the decking is bad
Absolutely agree! It is amazing how much the 50 year or lifetime warranty is used, when in reality it typically only covers defects and the manufacturer serves as judge and jury. I have started down the path of that video, really need to make editing and legal wording proper to avoid issues. Appreciate you watching and taking time to comment. We are always open to suggestions for new topics!
I am putting on my shed roof. I used plain roof nails but I coated the top of the nail with black Dynaflex 240 caulk, every single nail. Zoro sells the caulk for $5 a tube. It seals the nail head to the shingle surface, no water can get in there to rust or leak. 12x16 gambrel roof used only 2 tubes for the entire roof., so it is cheap insurance against rust and leaks. I smear it on with my finger. I am also shingling in horiz rows, so I nail the row then I caulk, it takes little time to do. scrape my finger clean on the top of a shingle. And it will scrub off with a scrunge, it is a water based caulk. THIS though it is a good idea, likely no PRO will ever do as it is more time, and you see how fast they want to nail on shingles and finish the roof. That is the benefit of DIY. Advantage is even SS nails can leak water past their heads, but caulked will not.
Man, that would take forever to do on a house… Also, it doesn’t help with the smooth nails backing out of the hole over time due to heat variations and damaging the tiles.
@@Brees1986 They were old new nails and had gotten rusty a little. Rain water got in the 30 lb container and sat. A little rust will help hold them in the wood better, they were not shiny any more. Yes, would be too much bother for a house roof. I sorted them out by eye to determine which ones I was willing to use.
Jeffrey, I agree that water may not always make it's way under, but humidity in the attic and air will eventually have some effects. We find rusty nails on many tearoffs, sometimes they are a source of failure, but not always. Appreciate your feedback.
I live in Louisiana, subject to hurricanes, high winds, tornadoes, hail, etc. I fully believe in stainless steel ring shank.
🙏 THANKS, man !!! This was probably the BEST breakdown of the different types of roofing nails I've found on RUclips... Now I know A LOT more and feel I can make a MUCH better decisiom for my house 🏠 Thanks much ❤👍🎯
Thank you, Scott. It's not always the most thought about aspect of a new roofing system, but this definitely is an important component. Glad you found some value for your project!
I just had my roof redone. I did a lot of research first. Most contractors wanted to use electro-galvanized nails. I wanted hot-dipped nails which have a lifespan of 30 to 50 years. Some contractors were resistant to that. One contractor was happy to oblige, and that's who I went with. I assumed that the HD nails would be ring shanked, but they were smooth shank. I should have specified HD ring-shank nails. But I have a plywood deck. Plywood has about twice the nail-holding ability compared to OSB. So I felt that the smooth shank would still be ok, especially since I don't live in a high wind area. I specified pretty much every roofing component I wanted to be used on the roof, from the underlayment to nails to flashing to vents to the pipe flashing to the exact shingles and hip & ridge to be used. It was more spendy than going with the low-price bidder, but I now have a great roof that will last decades, and it will be cheaper in the long run.
I wonder about that as far as nails. I currently have Tamko Heritage shingles on my roof. They have been on there for about 5 years now. I don't have a soffit at all, so attic ventilation is poor, only gable and box vents. So far I've seen a few shingles curling up or bulging a little. I know they used the industry standard nails on my roof. So I wonder if the nails are starting to rust and push out, haven't checked yet. I know from a previous project noticed a few over driven nails.
That being said I am about to do a major roof job myself. I am placing new OSB on the old 1x 6 boards. Adding a soffit and overhang, as well as ridge vent. Installing Atlas pinnacle pristine shingles. With what your saying I may invest a little extra for ring shank stainless steel nails.
I think you will find some peace of mind in reducing those failure points on day one. We are offering galvanized ring shank as well. Pricing we see per box is around $20 for regular nails, $60 for ring shank galvanized, and around $200 for stainless ring shank. Cap nails are around $100 a box for stainless as well.
We love our Atlas shingles too. Only 4 nails needed in most cases so save a little on the nails there. When it's time to reroof, if intake is an issue there is an intake option on the roof that will help that attic to breathe a little easier as well.
Thanks for commenting and enjoy your next project!
asphaltlife.atlasroofing.com/article/atlas-roofing-launches-ventilation-products
The HighPoint intake may be a great solution for intake in your future as well!
I went ahead and subscribed mostly b/c I like your style of explaining things. Clearly you are intelligent and not your typical "roofer" that I've interacted with. Not that I am in the roofing business mind you, I know that was a blanket insulting statement. I'm just a very curious DIYer who's having to re-roof a 12x8 shed and am planning to use up some of the electro-galvanized nails I already have in my tool shed. Disappointed to hear those are the lowest quality of roofing nails to use, but thanks for the information. Thorough! Loved it! However, your explanations and videos assume one is using shingles no? What about just attaching the decking to the rafters, I guess. I plan on putting some corrugated sheet metal on top of the plywood decking I'm going to use. Thanks again! I can't believe there aren't more comments on here.
Thank you, Hum Rod for the kind words. Yes, the video does kind of assume shingle installation. In terms of using a screw down metal roof, same idea would apply to stainless vs galvanized screws. The weak point of an exposed fastener is the gasket. Let me know if you have questions, always happy to help!
@@happyhomeroofing3326 Also, the initial image on your video shows 3 types of nails. One with the "screwey" shank, not a ring-shanked nail yet you never mentioned or described that one at all in your video. Just an observation, not suggesting you redo the video. Given I am only doing a small shed, like I said earlier, I won't be using a nail gun at all. So...I guess one less worry about the blade/plate impacting the nail head and cracking/breaking/peeling the galvanized coating. I do wonder, just thinking out loud here, doesn't the hot dipping galvanization process somewhat negate the ring shanks ability to grip onto the wood?
@@humrod1852 good question on the rink shank and the hot dipped impact. I have never run the test myself to verify. I have never seen that test result published or on video for that matter either. In our practice we prefer stainless, but will still offer galvanized if someone truly must watch the budget. Worst case, ring shank is always an advantage. Appreciate the discussion!
I live near Louisville KY, and am about to have roof replaced. Appreciate your video. I’m having a hard time located a source for hot dipped or stainless roofing nails. What brand could you recommend? Thanks
Glad you found some value in the video. If you work with a contractor, ABC supply can order the nails at a fair cost. Locally, I am the only one ordering so they may not be familiar with this item. If you order yourself, the price is a touch higher due to shipping.
I don't think brand as much as material and shank are key here.
Here is a link that may help. Best of luck on the big project!
www.bestmaterials.com/detail.aspx?ID=23112
Read to the viewers and explain the warranty of a 50 year shingle and what's actually covered.So many people don't understand it.How many times have you heard it when you tell them they need a reroof and they say its only been on 15 years.E.G nails are fine your roof will leave you before they command if a smooth shank want hold it the decking is bad
Absolutely agree! It is amazing how much the 50 year or lifetime warranty is used, when in reality it typically only covers defects and the manufacturer serves as judge and jury. I have started down the path of that video, really need to make editing and legal wording proper to avoid issues. Appreciate you watching and taking time to comment. We are always open to suggestions for new topics!
I am putting on my shed roof. I used plain roof nails but I coated the top of the nail with black Dynaflex 240 caulk, every single nail. Zoro sells the caulk for $5 a tube. It seals the nail head to the shingle surface, no water can get in there to rust or leak. 12x16 gambrel roof used only 2 tubes for the entire roof., so it is cheap insurance against rust and leaks. I smear it on with my finger. I am also shingling in horiz rows, so I nail the row then I caulk, it takes little time to do.
scrape my finger clean on the top of a shingle. And it will scrub off with a scrunge, it is a water based caulk.
THIS though it is a good idea, likely no PRO will ever do as it is more time, and you see how fast they want to nail on shingles and finish the roof. That is the benefit of DIY. Advantage is even SS nails can leak water past their heads, but caulked will not.
Man, that would take forever to do on a house… Also, it doesn’t help with the smooth nails backing out of the hole over time due to heat variations and damaging the tiles.
@@Brees1986 They were old new nails and had gotten rusty a little. Rain water got in the 30 lb container and sat. A little rust will help hold them in the wood better, they were not shiny any more. Yes, would be too much bother for a house roof. I sorted them out by eye to determine which ones I was willing to use.
So much smoke if the shingles are put on properly the water can't get under the shingle to get in.Fact. But we all have oppions
Jeffrey, I agree that water may not always make it's way under, but humidity in the attic and air will eventually have some effects. We find rusty nails on many tearoffs, sometimes they are a source of failure, but not always. Appreciate your feedback.