I'd wait if I were you, KTM is working on a direct injection setup for thier future two strokes. They are the best handling bikes on the market right now as well, they're also noticeably lighter than this 250lb beast.
hello, I bought this bike and I'm looking for the solution to a problem I noticed. In the maintenance manual it says that when you start the bike you should see turned on the mixer oil light on the bottom left of the odometer for 10 seconds as a "check". To me this light does not come on. I have read that not all models do. I would like to know if this warning/check light comes on for you. I hope you answer. thank you
A few reasons. Direct injection requires MUCH higher fuel pressure and a much more complex injector than regular EFI. Both of those things add cost and weight. It also means that oil inection is mandatory because premix no longer works; more cost and weight. And, because sophisticated direct fuel injectors don't like to be fouled with carbon spooge, that oil injection usually needs to be efficient, feeding bearings etc directly rather than just spraying oil into the intake port. It's an expensive set of technologies to add to an engine that most people value for its light weight and simplicity. And for all that trouble, the gains compared to a carb are mostly in emissions and fuel economy, rather than power. Lastly, most of the technology and know-how for two-stroke direct injection is held by marine and snowmobile companies like Mercury and Rotax, so most motorcycle companies would have to either develop their own system, which takes outrageous time and money, or pay to license it from one of these other companies. All that said, direct-injected two-strokes really are the better mousetrap.
+JETZcorp Thank you. I know that direct injection gas cars run at about what were running idi diesel,wich is 130 150 bars. It's not that big,it could be used on 4 strokes quite easily.
michaelovitch Yeah, the technology isn't really a,problem, it's all cost and weight. A fuel injection system running 150 bar, isn't that complicated, until you compare it to a gravity-feed hose into a carb. Lol.
+JETZcorp Yes. They could at least use it on road bikes,and massively on cars,it could be a huge improvement for emission and economy. It's like if the manufacturers always kept 20 years of reserve for improvement. my 1980's bmw bike have fuel injection,while it was mass equipped in 2000 something on all brands ! It's crazy. The same for honda ,if i remeber correctly,wich produced a fuel injection system in the early 80's but never sold it. When you think direct gas and diesel direct injection was used in 1912 already ! and massively during ww2
To any of the new 300rr owners, Does the title specifically say "for offroad use only" or is it titled like a regular motorcycle? Or does it only come with an MSO? this seems easy to get a plate for as long as you don't have the title restriction. Trying my best to not buy an 300exc.
yes they are reknown to be able to ride them on the road. I got mine registered over here in the uk. Absolute animal and have not regretted having one of these over a ktm
+confettihunterminus1 Depends on your state. California is a big no because it's 2-stroke. Otherwise "This being an enduro bike, the 300 RR comes stock with a brake/tail light, street-legal Michelin enduro tires, a horn, a speedometer, a running light, a headlight and a high beam. The lights are all controlled by the master switch that is good quality and nicely designed. The only things that it doesn’t have are turn signals, but the control switch is already wired up for them." You'd also have to add a mirror.
it's perfect but a hell of a lot of money!!!!!! for just a dirt bike I can buy a Harley Davidson street motorcycle for the amount of money they want for the beta!
Best dirt bike on the market, imo.
I have four rides on my 2017 Beta RR Race. It is so unbelievably good. Amazing bike
300 DOUBLE R!!! I like it already just by the by the name. lol
+CycleCruza why do i see you everywhere?
get this bike!!
Oh shit, I come back to this and I know who you are now, lol
+Itzak bikes
Incredible... I have a 2014 KTM 300 XC-W, but this Beta will be my next bike. Hands down.
I'd wait if I were you, KTM is working on a direct injection setup for thier future two strokes. They are the best handling bikes on the market right now as well, they're also noticeably lighter than this 250lb beast.
hello, I bought this bike and I'm looking for the solution to a problem I noticed. In the maintenance manual it says that when you start the bike you should see turned on the mixer oil light on the bottom left of the odometer for 10 seconds as a "check". To me this light does not come on. I have read that not all models do. I would like to know if this warning/check light comes on for you. I hope you answer. thank you
There is direct injection on 2 strokes engines.
Why it's not a standard thing nowadays ?
A few reasons. Direct injection requires MUCH higher fuel pressure and a much more complex injector than regular EFI. Both of those things add cost and weight. It also means that oil inection is mandatory because premix no longer works; more cost and weight. And, because sophisticated direct fuel injectors don't like to be fouled with carbon spooge, that oil injection usually needs to be efficient, feeding bearings etc directly rather than just spraying oil into the intake port. It's an expensive set of technologies to add to an engine that most people value for its light weight and simplicity. And for all that trouble, the gains compared to a carb are mostly in emissions and fuel economy, rather than power. Lastly, most of the technology and know-how for two-stroke direct injection is held by marine and snowmobile companies like Mercury and Rotax, so most motorcycle companies would have to either develop their own system, which takes outrageous time and money, or pay to license it from one of these other companies.
All that said, direct-injected two-strokes really are the better mousetrap.
+JETZcorp
Thank you.
I know that direct injection gas cars run at about what were running idi diesel,wich is 130 150 bars.
It's not that big,it could be used on 4 strokes quite easily.
michaelovitch Yeah, the technology isn't really a,problem, it's all cost and weight. A fuel injection system running 150 bar, isn't that complicated, until you compare it to a gravity-feed hose into a carb. Lol.
+JETZcorp
Yes.
They could at least use it on road bikes,and massively on cars,it could be a huge improvement for emission and economy.
It's like if the manufacturers always kept 20 years of reserve for improvement.
my 1980's bmw bike have fuel injection,while it was mass equipped in 2000 something on all brands !
It's crazy.
The same for honda ,if i remeber correctly,wich produced a fuel injection system in the early 80's but never sold it.
When you think direct gas and diesel direct injection was used in 1912 already ! and massively during ww2
michaelovitch DI ruins the rocket like two stroke power hit that I love. Makes it drive like a 4 stroke IMO
2 Stroke
Will you be reviewing the Beta four strokes?
I love these bikes. Cant wait to get the second one
To any of the new 300rr owners, Does the title specifically say "for offroad use only" or is it titled like a regular motorcycle? Or does it only come with an MSO? this seems easy to get a plate for as long as you don't have the title restriction. Trying my best to not buy an 300exc.
yes they are reknown to be able to ride them on the road. I got mine registered over here in the uk. Absolute animal and have not regretted having one of these over a ktm
"if you don't want to go orange AND white" fixed it for ya as they are same bikes now.
I would like to see a review of a new gas gas 300!
Great bike...love mine
BUT I DO LOVE IT! unless I hit the loto it's staying right there or if I have that money I'd buy the Harley Davidson motorcycle!
I can has dual sport street legal model?
I can has cheeseburger?
I just bought a 2016 300rr and it came with all the accessories to make it street legal.
+Justin M you can has cheeseburger
What? Nuts
Is this street legal?
+confettihunterminus1 Depends on your state. California is a big no because it's 2-stroke. Otherwise "This being an enduro bike, the 300 RR comes stock with a brake/tail light, street-legal Michelin enduro tires, a horn, a speedometer, a running light, a headlight and a high beam. The lights are all controlled by the master switch that is good quality and nicely designed. The only things that it doesn’t have are turn signals, but the control switch is already wired up for them." You'd also have to add a mirror.
it's perfect but a hell of a lot of money!!!!!! for just a dirt bike I can buy a Harley Davidson street motorcycle for the amount of money they want for the beta!
Betas are real motorcycles, Hardly Ablesons not so much. I rather push a beta than ride a chinese powered harley.
If I could afford it I'd get the beta 300rr
Are you going to trail ride a harley?
Im in love
"weighs 250 pounds, not exactley lite" shit, I'm guessing you've never rode a drz 250. thing weighs over 300
Future me to the rescue! It's 250 full of all fluids 220 dry
Or blue
Wow, how much? Probably more the my wifudget will allow lol
tiny fuel tanks
bye a bigger one
+Zane Zinn do you mean buy?
+weirdshibainu yes
Jesus can someone please tell me if these are street legal in New York. I'm dying to get one already.
Call your Local Beta Dealer
2:00 he is a novice for sure lol
Looks like a KTM
no
i own one , great bike great engine , injection works awesome and its not orange , such a shit color
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