I am also not a professional welder but a few things I noticed: the current seemed too high in some cases because you have burned through the material so lowering it might give better results. Another thing, using TIG torch - you should stop and keep the torch right above the weld when you finish your welding to keep the last piece of weld harden shielded by the gas. You have taken your hand away and then went back in to cover it with gas, but after those 3 seconds it was not halping anything. Keep the gas there RIGHT after you stop welding for a few seconds. There is a good review in czech language by Killeroz channel on youtube. IT is a pretty decent Welder - I recommend watching that also.
That machine does not have a switch with high frequency start for TIG; it's scratch start only, in order to stop the weld you have to whip the torch away from the work to extinguish the arc. Thus means the weld will always get some air contamination, but it's not as bad if you get the torch back quickly. You should use a WP-17V torch, it's the one with the valve on it for scratch start.
Welding thin car body thickness panels requires a welder that will go down to LOW amps, in a MIG sense, as you've commented "turning down the current will help." as he's blown holes in his panel. Most MIG welders will not go below 40 amps and this is required for this sort of thin work. Sadly, Flux Cored MiG wire requires higher current than wire and gas, and this is why the results using Flux Cored wire were much worse than the MIG and Gas., which was already too much. as you've said. When shopping for a Welder, if you aspire to welding 1mm car panels or thin stuff, a welder that goes under 40 amps is needed, and it becomes surprisingly 'hard' to find in the budget end of the market where most people are focusing on the top end power numbers and that is what they buy. My own choice has been "lower is always best" where the first thing I check is how low will it go. My current welder [traditional MIG and Gas] will go down to 25 amps. You can always work up from that, but you can't ever go below the minimum the machine will deliver. If on its lowest setting that's still too much then its game over with that welder. I've been able to happily weld .7mm sheet steel with the 'lower is best' approach.
@@MWSRD it is possible, years ago when TIG welders where just simple machines like this you could buy add ons that did thinks like ramp up.and down of current, pulsing and HF start. The modern version is called the Arc pig. It also does pre post and post post I think, it looks like it definitely does gas though so no more need for the manual valve.
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When MIG welding with gas, you should push the gun, leaves a flatter and better formed bead, though there are times when you'd use the pull technique. Your travel speed also seems a bit fast in a few tests. Getting MIG welders that are good at the low end is hard, usually only expensive MIG machines or pulsed MIG machines can do very thin material, it's just harder for the machine to maintain a stable low voltage when welding.
I must say that does not leave me envious of my TIG welder, though they have a similar welder at my local Lidl right now, but it's an even lower amp version than that, more or less useless, if I wanted a MIG welder I'd probably just buy a €500 china one that actually has wire speed adjustment, that's a really important adjustment, I can't even think of welding at work without wire speed adjustment.
I only run 1mm flux core through mine - I have other machines to handle the smaller gauge wires. Mine is close to perfection running 1mm wire. It has stupid hours work done as I use it professionally & has never so much as coughed. I am a fan.
Never buy a cheap welder. Did once and it will never happened again. It fails and It fails rather quick and then you have a brick. A brick that no repair shop wants to deal with. Thank you for the test. I'll stick to some well established local brands.
I did once, worked great till the board went, inverter obviously, good local sets for me like Lincoln or miller parts are available more easily, so in the long rung buy smarter not cheaper..
@@KimbersKitchenfoodandreviewsThis may be true for some countries. At least in my country they don't replace bigger things and like this one immediately, but are usually sent for service. And then, as has already happened to me, answers came back with excuses why warranty can’t cover this repair because it was not used acording to specification. Welders like this can quickly become overheated or. overused. Im not saying that this particular machine totaly sucks. It's more general speaking...
Veselica is the best machine your money can buy. I reckon you buy one and if its not enough you can always take kakšn cukr and you will be out of this world. Govorim resnico.
Okee, let's be honest. For 199 euro you can buy this machine that can do al that. I am running welding machines of 14,000euro ën it can run only Mig/mag. I know that is not the best compares by the fact that I am a offshore welder. But for a home gamer this machine is good enough. PS in the comments everybody cries about your welding. But for a machine straight out of the box with no time for testing al the settings, I say it's a good review.
Looked like the first test the heat settings were a bit high. Thin metal is always a pain for us hobbyists. Flux core is worse about this than mig. Have to do more jumping around so it doesn't heat up the base metal too bad. And gaps in your fitment will blow out more on thin stuff. I'm no expert but most of welding success is good prep work in making sure things fit well.
As a qualified welder with great practise I have following notices in connection with this vid: direction of welding in case of MIG/MAG is the opposite direction. Move your welds forwards not backwards.
При сварке толстых тобишь 3-х и 4-х мм. металлов,убирать подачу проволоки нужно для прогрева и провара,меньше высота шва выходит,так что эксперементируйте !!!!
Thank you for the vid. Bought a tig and stick welder to learn how, was just waiting for a vid like your.. being very much a novice it would have been good if you could have talked us through what you were doing and how we can improve..
I'm making videos without talking so it's more suitable for everyone else that does not speak english. I'll make a more in depth testing video of all of my tools.
good video, 8:50 - the moment when you realize: flux core sux :D and you would be better off with a good stick welder ;) 11:10 - notice the weld crack; it can happen because no filler was added. So hobby welder guys: always put filler in the puddle.
OMG.... where to begin. We all had to begin somewhere, so I began as a young lad doing my apprenticeship in fabrication and, once I had completed that, due to my birth date I ended up having to do another couple of years so I took a advanced welding course and learned crafty stuff like explosion welding with C4 and other things. Can I suggest find out if your local collage does a welding introduction course, because that will give you a really good grounding in the technicalitys and technique of what you are doing with the thing in your hand. It will be a good investment and my companys employed many people who have taken such a course, which only takes a short few weeks, ending up being pretty damned good welders in the process..... what I just watched wasn't.... it was entertaining, but you need to get your technique right and you need someone to show you physically what to do with the thing in your hand so you do it properly.
@@MakeAndTest You can also start by using the power of RUclips. Just a simple search such as How to MIG weld will bring you lots of results from people only to eager to pass on the benefit of their years spent with torch in hand. It also helps seeing others make the same mistakes you realise you make and how they corrected them. For MIG Weldingtipsandtricks is a great source. For TIG welding weldingtipsandtricks and This Old Tony and 5th Street Fab are all go to's you'll learn a lot from.
This is basically an arc welder to be used on steel more than 3mm thick. You could use it on TIG but it is a bit crude and builds up to much heat on stainless. On MIG setting as you could see it was useless using the flux cored wire. Using an Argoshield gas cylinder and normal MIG wire it was better but it still burned very hot on sheet steel. If anyone is thinking of using this on cars, think again as there will be severe distortion. Normally with a MIG you push the molten pool not drag the molten pool. Draging the molten pool when MIG welding, as shown on the video is only used to get a flater weld and to minimize distortion. I suppose the guy in the video was trying to drag it to reduce the heat as on MIG mode it was still burning to hot, just acting like an arc welder. Basically I see it as an arc welder.
Thanks for the video! I'm currently training to be a coded welder and bought this machine when I stumbled upon it in LIDL today. Hopefully get it set up in the morning and get to play around with it 😌
As a welder. These mig machines from Aldi Lidl and park side them self’s are absolutely Atrocious. There is zero penetration through the steel work too begin with. Also welding Stainless steel with low carbon steel wire will not produce the best weld in the first place. Also what isn’t helping these welds is that they are being pulled backwards and not being pushed forwards as you can see on the outside corner edge so for any young welders out there do not pull welds towards yourself always push away that is my tip too you all starting out! MMA welds where also put on far too quickly need a nice slow travel speed happy hunting gents (always buy jasic)
Hi mate. I agree with what your saying regarding the proper mig welding (with gas). However people need to know, with Fluxcore wire you pull or drag backwards...not push forward. If you push, using fluxcore wire, you'll just fill your weld with shite. By dragging, all the light powdery slag produced by the fluxcore wire gets aimed towards the already cooled bead and sits on top, not into the path of your weld/clean metal about to be welded. Check out Weldtube videos, or other top channels and they all show this. Fluxcore is actually not bad stuff with a little practice, but it's just messy.
Шум вентилятора, как от турбины самолета. С ума сойдешь, от этой китайской подделки. В 2017 хотел в Финляндии в Лидл это недоразумение купить. Взял ewm👌👍
@@MakeAndTest Yes, if you don't talk write 1-2 sentences of your opinion, even if informally. I do not understand what i'm seeing, I just want to weld something before I kick the bucket and was wondering if it worths the buy. :D I'll be pretty impressed if with this crappy price it lasts more than 100 hours, but 2euro/hour that's good. :D
@@Markus76608 я не сварщик, ни разу, брал для ремонта грузовика, заварил дыры, проварил трещины, приваривал уши для вытягивания металла и тд. Пока работает не жалуюсь.
@@MakeAndTest last week I bought the arc welder PISG 120 A2 model welds really good I will make a review and later try to convert it to TIG. In Croatia it costed 85.57 Euro.
Hi experts ! can someone please tell me im a total amateur at welding, but I would like to weld some aluminum rods to make an electric scooter.. my question is does the TIG welding needs some kind of argon gas or mainly electric ? I would like to do this in my small garage and I dont want any huge gas tank, just plug into the wall and weld it? How about Cold Welding does that use gas tank as well and do you recommend that instead ? Thank you in advance
You can weld aluminum with MIG but its diffenrent. You can't weld aluminum with this TIG because its only DC. You need AC welding machine for soft metals. I would recomment buying a purpose AC/DC TIG welding machine if you're mainly welding aluminum.
@@MakeAndTest hi, and sorry to jump on this comment,in you video I can t see how exactly have you connected the tig torch, the red loop is already in place, you used the black clamp to attach between the welder and the tig end, with cable grounds the metal you are welding? Thanks
@@sebastiaanpop3638 Oh now I see. I forgot to show that instead of red on the +, you have to put the grounding clamp to +. So the tig torch is - and ground is +.
Anch'io ho provato a mettere la bombola però noto quando lascio l'interruttore per saldare esce molto gas a vuoto e la bombola tende a svuotarsi presto cè qualche soluzione per far staccare la fuori uscita del gas quando si lascia l'interruttore?
This is the best welding machines which i had never seen before . That Is three in one arc welding, mig welding and tig welding. Where can i buy it and do we have it spare parts and how much it costs in Mauritian Rupees...... TheDust
This is sold in German supermarkets LIDL in Europe. Parkside is their own brand. Usually affordable enough. Normally the stuff they sell can be produced in China,... so if you look hard enough online you may find the same model sold under different brand.
Hello! Great video! what is the end verdict? Did this machine perform well on the different activities? I am a complete novice welder, but it seemed ok to me...
Hopefully you’ve learned something from the comments in these two years and became a better welder. Don’t mean to be rude but if I was you I would have removed the video to avoid embarrassment. 😮 Sorry 😮
Insane Builds link to site where you can buy it: www.lidl-shop.nl/PARKSIDE-4-in-1-gas-lasapparaat/p100290638?mktc=shopping&gclid=Cj0KCQjw0YD4BRD2ARIsAHwmKVlxqppZzGgeSLzvbraCXBQcMPxgKRfYSO7JW2Z4TdATQDqUpkRKv1QaAjN-EALw_wcB&dt_dynco=BEB6D379A1590D97D43C5EA18CA31990
А что Вы хотели за 220$ ??? Что б осциллятор ещё был?? Лучше бы начинку показал , какой фильтр входной?? Какие ключи , какие диодные сборки?? Есть ли дроссель на выходе ??? Вместо этого автор показал как учится варить?.)))
Non c'e una regola scritta, avanti ho dietro dipende da cosa si salda, in avanti si salda meglio e chiude qualsiasi bolla ho vuoto che si può creare, tipo contenitori di liquidi, fusti per gas e simile, il resto non serve, poi ognuno fa come crede meglio e abitudine,
,,poi ognuno fa come crede meglio e abitudine'' Questa frase dimostra che non hai ideea di cosa stai parlando. Riguardando la posizione in cui lui mostra il test, il senso di saldatura non puo essere che in avanti. Potresti aver ragione se saldi in altri positioni tipo verticale, ma anche li, non puoi eseguire una saldatura ,,standard'' se usi il metodo ,,,fai come ti pare'' sono delle tecniche e muovimenti precisi. Aggiungo che in orizontale, e piu facile ed esce una saldatura molto piu pulita e di qualita se saldi in avanti, perche dovresti farla al contrario?
Pues la (Flux y la mig) se soldán sobre empuje y no jalando pues la función del gas no proteje al material de allí en fuera la máquina se ve Q jala bien
Thank you sir for the effort we appreciate, i have a question please is it a AC/DC or just a DC welder ? In order to know if we can use it for aluminium as tig !???
Хуйня а не игрушка, дома в поле хватит с горой инвектора и цена на них не высокая, а эта игрушка цена от космического Каробл я и нах он нужен в быту, ворота варить, воду, отопления или что!?
@@Тупой_Мессия а в чем нуждается, если у вас конструкторное бюро, я не знаю может она вам там пригодится, но в доме где ей работать, металоконструкции инвектор справляется на ура, даже часть о опления им делаю, а есть автоген любой труба водо или газ, подогрев, подрез и многое другое ещё чего бы не хватало я не испытывал сварку тиг что она мне нужна, а валятся мёртвым грузом, это не моё
@@LG-gb4fl Не спорю, но вот мне буквально два дня назад понадобилась сварка полуавтоматом дабы вварить новые пороги в автомобиль. И мне пришлось брать в аренду весь аппарат, ведь у меня самого есть только инвертор. Но вот теперь я всерьез задумался о приобретении хотя-бы полуавтомата, а в идеале и TIG аппарата.
Как говорил дедушка Ленин, учиться, учиться и ещё раз учиться. Аппарат нормальный, но варить ты умеешь только электродом. На полуавтомате с газом при сварке тонкого металла основная ошибка в том что ты не даёшь ему остыть. Надо варить точками и дыр не будет. С металлом 3 мм мало подачи и много напряжения, проволока плавится слишком быстро и не успевает подаваться новая. Так же слишком близко держишь горелку. На 5 мм металле явно непровар, металл не прогревается как надо. Флюсовую проволоку не признаю т.к. она срёт + неоправданно высокая цена.
Tres bien mais comment ce le procurer car chaque fois c'est la même chose on ne sait jamais où l'acheter SVP dite ou peut on ce le procurer Merci Amities Noirot Raymond de Ramonville saint agne
@@waynelam1964 is rude to say the truth ?! Is IMPOSSIBLE someone which does not know to weld properly to test a welding machine, just like one which does not know to drive a car but use to test Ferrari. Yes, i'm rude, i can not speak like your mum indulgently.
@@thepreserver83 Parkside is not a Ferrari of welding machines. More like Opel Manta. But you're right my welds will never be better. Even if I weld with Froinus...
WIG is TIG but in german language (Wolfram Inert Gas). You can weld TIG with almost every welder, they just make it a "special" program for marketing purpose probably. Any MMa / stick welder can do basic scratch start TIG welding if you buy the torch and connect the gas hose directly to the bottle.
@@MakeAndTest many thanks for the information . I have a last question, what's the maximum thick of the metal for welding in aluminum that I can work in this machine?
@@kingangel5837 Hard to say...I never tried aluminum with this thing. You can't TIG weld it because it's only DC TIG(for stainless). You can try and MIG weld it with aluminum wire.
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I am also not a professional welder but a few things I noticed: the current seemed too high in some cases because you have burned through the material so lowering it might give better results. Another thing, using TIG torch - you should stop and keep the torch right above the weld when you finish your welding to keep the last piece of weld harden shielded by the gas. You have taken your hand away and then went back in to cover it with gas, but after those 3 seconds it was not halping anything. Keep the gas there RIGHT after you stop welding for a few seconds. There is a good review in czech language by Killeroz channel on youtube. IT is a pretty decent Welder - I recommend watching that also.
Thank you for helping me notice these things. I'll try it next time.
That machine does not have a switch with high frequency start for TIG; it's scratch start only, in order to stop the weld you have to whip the torch away from the work to extinguish the arc. Thus means the weld will always get some air contamination, but it's not as bad if you get the torch back quickly.
You should use a WP-17V torch, it's the one with the valve on it for scratch start.
Welding thin car body thickness panels requires a welder that will go down to LOW amps, in a MIG sense, as you've commented "turning down the current will help." as he's blown holes in his panel.
Most MIG welders will not go below 40 amps and this is required for this sort of thin work. Sadly, Flux Cored MiG wire requires higher current than wire and gas, and this is why the results using Flux Cored wire were much worse than the MIG and Gas., which was already too much. as you've said.
When shopping for a Welder, if you aspire to welding 1mm car panels or thin stuff, a welder that goes under 40 amps is needed, and it becomes surprisingly 'hard' to find in the budget end of the market where most people are focusing on the top end power numbers and that is what they buy.
My own choice has been "lower is always best" where the first thing I check is how low will it go. My current welder [traditional MIG and Gas] will go down to 25 amps. You can always work up from that, but you can't ever go below the minimum the machine will deliver. If on its lowest setting that's still too much then its game over with that welder. I've been able to happily weld .7mm sheet steel with the 'lower is best' approach.
@@JoshuaNicoll How would you add high frequency starting to this or would it even be possible?
@@MWSRD it is possible, years ago when TIG welders where just simple machines like this you could buy add ons that did thinks like ramp up.and down of current, pulsing and HF start. The modern version is called the Arc pig. It also does pre post and post post I think, it looks like it definitely does gas though so no more need for the manual valve.
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Naposledy jsem svářel cca před 15-ti lety elektrodama, takže jsem laik. Zakoupil jsem tento výrobek a jsem fakt překvapenej, jak to tím drátem vaří. Bomba, doporučuji 👍🏻👍🏻
When MIG welding with gas, you should push the gun, leaves a flatter and better formed bead, though there are times when you'd use the pull technique. Your travel speed also seems a bit fast in a few tests.
Getting MIG welders that are good at the low end is hard, usually only expensive MIG machines or pulsed MIG machines can do very thin material, it's just harder for the machine to maintain a stable low voltage when welding.
Thanks for the feedback man. I really appreciate it.
@@MakeAndTest You're welcome.
I must say that does not leave me envious of my TIG welder, though they have a similar welder at my local Lidl right now, but it's an even lower amp version than that, more or less useless, if I wanted a MIG welder I'd probably just buy a €500 china one that actually has wire speed adjustment, that's a really important adjustment, I can't even think of welding at work without wire speed adjustment.
I only run 1mm flux core through mine - I have other machines to handle the smaller gauge wires. Mine is close to perfection running 1mm wire. It has stupid hours work done as I use it professionally & has never so much as coughed. I am a fan.
Thanks for the info!
Never buy a cheap welder. Did once and it will never happened again. It fails and It fails rather quick and then you have a brick. A brick that no repair shop wants to deal with. Thank you for the test. I'll stick to some well established local brands.
I did once, worked great till the board went, inverter obviously, good local sets for me like Lincoln or miller parts are available more easily, so in the long rung buy smarter not cheaper..
These have a 3 year gaurentee normally take it back if it breaks and get a refund
@@KimbersKitchenfoodandreviewsThis may be true for some countries. At least in my country they don't replace bigger things and like this one immediately, but are usually sent for service. And then, as has already happened to me, answers came back with excuses why warranty can’t cover this repair because it was not used acording to specification.
Welders like this can quickly become overheated or. overused.
Im not saying that this particular machine totaly sucks. It's more general speaking...
@@daseeyesh in uk where I’m from Lidl who sell them just gave me my money back 3 years later no argument had used product for 3 years too
@@KimbersKitchenfoodandreviews Awesome customer service. 😁
I member you from veselica last year, u were more zašvasan than half the people there. Than it eskaliralo to this masterpiece. Props.
Veselica is the best machine your money can buy. I reckon you buy one and if its not enough you can always take kakšn cukr and you will be out of this world. Govorim resnico.
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Okee, let's be honest.
For 199 euro you can buy this machine that can do al that.
I am running welding machines of 14,000euro ën it can run only Mig/mag.
I know that is not the best compares by the fact that I am a offshore welder.
But for a home gamer this machine is good enough.
PS in the comments everybody cries about your welding.
But for a machine straight out of the box with no time for testing al the settings, I say it's a good review.
Thanks man I really appreciate your feedback and support.
3 months on 3 months off am I right?
martin who is the USA distributor..?
@@robertcarter2852 I don't know.
I live in the Netherlands
@@robertcarter2852 Sorry I don't know
Looked like the first test the heat settings were a bit high. Thin metal is always a pain for us hobbyists. Flux core is worse about this than mig. Have to do more jumping around so it doesn't heat up the base metal too bad. And gaps in your fitment will blow out more on thin stuff. I'm no expert but most of welding success is good prep work in making sure things fit well.
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As a qualified welder with great practise I have following notices in connection with this vid: direction of welding in case of MIG/MAG is the opposite direction. Move your welds forwards not backwards.
I was just writing that!😂
Did he ever use a mig welder?😯
@@paolocane8875 Hi Paolo! Yes I did. Inert gases are used in case of rust free materials. Pure Argon need in this case.
@@csabavarady4711 yes, but you should push the welding with mig, not pull... If you pull the welding stay on the top, and are way less stronger.😅
При сварке толстых тобишь 3-х и 4-х мм. металлов,убирать подачу проволоки нужно для прогрева и провара,меньше высота шва выходит,так что эксперементируйте !!!!
Спасибо за информацию
It's not too bad for a 200 euro machines, certainly very functional.
Thank you for the vid. Bought a tig and stick welder to learn how, was just waiting for a vid like your.. being very much a novice it would have been good if you could have talked us through what you were doing and how we can improve..
I'm making videos without talking so it's more suitable for everyone else that does not speak english. I'll make a more in depth testing video of all of my tools.
He can’t speak well English...maybe..
@@bobot021070 You sir, are probably right.
bro. go to weld.com or 6061's channel
@nuff said must I ask why? :)
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Thanks man, glad it was useful
Very good video. I have this model aboud a month now, and it's good for hobby use.
How much it cost link pl
Can i get in India pl
good video,
8:50 - the moment when you realize: flux core sux :D and you would be better off with a good stick welder ;)
11:10 - notice the weld crack; it can happen because no filler was added. So hobby welder guys: always put filler in the puddle.
Thanks for the feedback man. I really appreciate it.
Slow down and push your puddle
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Gracias Carlos, tendré que buscar una opción más viable aquí en México. 👍💯
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OMG.... where to begin. We all had to begin somewhere, so I began as a young lad doing my apprenticeship in fabrication and, once I had completed that, due to my birth date I ended up having to do another couple of years so I took a advanced welding course and learned crafty stuff like explosion welding with C4 and other things. Can I suggest find out if your local collage does a welding introduction course, because that will give you a really good grounding in the technicalitys and technique of what you are doing with the thing in your hand. It will be a good investment and my companys employed many people who have taken such a course, which only takes a short few weeks, ending up being pretty damned good welders in the process..... what I just watched wasn't.... it was entertaining, but you need to get your technique right and you need someone to show you physically what to do with the thing in your hand so you do it properly.
Thanks for the constructive feedback man. I'll do my best practicing and getting a mentor.
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@@MakeAndTest You can also start by using the power of RUclips. Just a simple search such as How to MIG weld will bring you lots of results from people only to eager to pass on the benefit of their years spent with torch in hand. It also helps seeing others make the same mistakes you realise you make and how they corrected them. For MIG Weldingtipsandtricks is a great source.
For TIG welding weldingtipsandtricks and This Old Tony and 5th Street Fab are all go to's you'll learn a lot from.
This is basically an arc welder to be used on steel more than 3mm thick. You could use it on TIG but it is a bit crude and builds up to much heat on stainless. On MIG setting as you could see it was useless using the flux cored wire. Using an Argoshield gas cylinder and normal MIG wire it was better but it still burned very hot on sheet steel. If anyone is thinking of using this on cars, think again as there will be severe distortion. Normally with a MIG you push the molten pool not drag the molten pool. Draging the molten pool when MIG welding, as shown on the video is only used to get a flater weld and to minimize distortion. I suppose the guy in the video was trying to drag it to reduce the heat as on MIG mode it was still burning to hot, just acting like an arc welder. Basically I see it as an arc welder.
Thanks for the video! I'm currently training to be a coded welder and bought this machine when I stumbled upon it in LIDL today. Hopefully get it set up in the morning and get to play around with it 😌
Glad you liked the video. Hope u use it well.
when you seal whith mig you go in front direction dont pull because the gas escape out of the fusion zone
Thank you for your advice. I'll try it next time I weld.
@@MakeAndTest how much price this one dear sir
And how available in saudi Arabia
@@bakhtzadakhan4224 199 in LIDL
Como fazer pra eu comprar uma
Thank you for this test.
You're wellcome
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As a welder. These mig machines from Aldi Lidl and park side them self’s are absolutely Atrocious. There is zero penetration through the steel work too begin with. Also welding Stainless steel with low carbon steel wire will not produce the best weld in the first place. Also what isn’t helping these welds is that they are being pulled backwards and not being pushed forwards as you can see on the outside corner edge so for any young welders out there do not pull welds towards yourself always push away that is my tip too you all starting out! MMA welds where also put on far too quickly need a nice slow travel speed happy hunting gents (always buy jasic)
Hi mate. I agree with what your saying regarding the proper mig welding (with gas). However people need to know, with Fluxcore wire you pull or drag backwards...not push forward. If you push, using fluxcore wire, you'll just fill your weld with shite. By dragging, all the light powdery slag produced by the fluxcore wire gets aimed towards the already cooled bead and sits on top, not into the path of your weld/clean metal about to be welded. Check out Weldtube videos, or other top channels and they all show this. Fluxcore is actually not bad stuff with a little practice, but it's just messy.
Hello, great work. Does the euro- plug firmly fit to the plug or can you slighty move it up/down at the end, where the hose comes out of the plug?
Yes it does
@@MakeAndTest Thanks for the quick response. So, it moves?
@@HeinerStorch it fits normally
Welding set ko mangwana ka parcijar kya h or hama yha cha digarh k najdeek mangwani h total karcha kitana parda ga batao
good job,I saw the welding electrode and self flux welding wire
The best masin welder. I like it.
And its pretty cheap.
How much
@@sanofrancisco1130 ffs U got it in title....
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@@sanofrancisco1130 ,xh
Always look on the Parkside of life
Man, you nailed that one :D
😂😂😂
Video yang mengesankan. . Terimakasih untuk percobaan mesin yang sangat luar biasa ini 🙏
Grazie mille per il tuo video molto interessante voglio prendere anche io questa saldatrice. Me la consigli?
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Шум вентилятора, как от турбины самолета. С ума сойдешь, от этой китайской подделки. В 2017 хотел в Финляндии в Лидл это недоразумение купить. Взял ewm👌👍
Ewm это вещь!!!
I heard a lot of good stuff about this welder, but you need to work on your welding skills anyway really good and helpfull video keep Up the good work
Thank you. I'll try my best.
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@Mr. Know Itall yi
@@Jk-pr1cb how many random ppl have called u so far?
Damn nice welder for that money... well enough for the good hobbyist
Máy han 3/1 loại này giá bán như nào vậy anh..
So confused on the measurements. So the first steel plate is 0.5mm thick, 2nd is 3mm thick and last is 10mm thick?
Does it include the tig welding torch? And can you put a foot pedal on it for tig?
No, its not included and you cannot put a foot pedal on it. It's just basic scratch start tig- the same you can make on your stick welder.
Amazing and compatible. I personally use portable machines for the on-site works.
I'll soon make a better test. Now that I welded a lot more, I think this is the best machine for the money. Period.
@@MakeAndTest that would be great. I been doing it for a decade now and yes you're really great.
@@MakeAndTest Yes, if you don't talk write 1-2 sentences of your opinion, even if informally. I do not understand what i'm seeing, I just want to weld something before I kick the bucket and was wondering if it worths the buy. :D I'll be pretty impressed if with this crappy price it lasts more than 100 hours, but 2euro/hour that's good. :D
Для домашнего использования, неплохо, сам подобным пользуюсь
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Abonner plz
Долго служит? Какие впечатления?
@@Markus76608 я не сварщик, ни разу, брал для ремонта грузовика, заварил дыры, проварил трещины, приваривал уши для вытягивания металла и тд. Пока работает не жалуюсь.
@@Thundernoise спасибо
Seems like a good machine for the miney
Добрый день подскажите пожалуйста для аргоновой сварки , где можно приобрести tig пистолет . Я просто не знаю где его купить . Он в комплекте не идёт
If I cant get this welder where I live, can you then recommend any other multi welders in the same price range ?
Watch my other video..Top 5 multi welders - on my channel
Esos sonidos o Ruidos Al abrir y extraer Los objetos del empaque me agradan por que voy a estrenar mi EQUIPO nuevo.
I think its the best for arc welding.
Yeah it does a really good job.
@@MakeAndTest last week I bought the arc welder PISG 120 A2 model welds really good I will make a review and later try to convert it to TIG. In Croatia it costed 85.57 Euro.
@@LukaZloglea Nice bargain.
What kind of gas you use for MIG and TIG?
Is not a good welding machine. You cannot adjust wire speed separately by the voltage.
I LOVE how you edit this video. Subbed just for that!!
... what I don't understand is why snip of quite a lot of initial wire... o.O
Thanks for the feedback. I'm glad you like it.
Answer: To make it easier for the viewers to see.
@@MakeAndTest Oh... uhm, kay... But I'm sure they have good eyesight. Y'know, since they're here to learn how to solder... I guess...
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It would be very helpful if you explain what you were doing when you were changing those lines around
Прикольно. Показали бы еще, как алюминий варить.
Good morning/or pm to you Sir,
Saan pwedeng orderin itong welding machine?
Thanks
Nice welder however you need some welding skills.
I'll do my best next time.
Push the puddle with hardwire don't drag it
@@gurjindersingh199 I'll take your advice and try it next time
@@gurjindersingh199 thought the same while watching
Come on man shes not bad I've seen much worse out of workshops and to be fair he was using a lidl welding plant😂
Hi experts ! can someone please tell me im a total amateur at welding, but I would like to weld some aluminum rods to make an electric scooter.. my question is does the TIG welding needs some kind of argon gas or mainly electric ? I would like to do this in my small garage and I dont want any huge gas tank, just plug into the wall and weld it? How about Cold Welding does that use gas tank as well and do you recommend that instead ? Thank you in advance
You can weld aluminum with MIG but its diffenrent. You can't weld aluminum with this TIG because its only DC. You need AC welding machine for soft metals. I would recomment buying a purpose AC/DC TIG welding machine if you're mainly welding aluminum.
@@MakeAndTest hi, and sorry to jump on this comment,in you video I can t see how exactly have you connected the tig torch, the red loop is already in place, you used the black clamp to attach between the welder and the tig end, with cable grounds the metal you are welding? Thanks
@@sebastiaanpop3638 Oh now I see. I forgot to show that instead of red on the +, you have to put the grounding clamp to +. So the tig torch is - and ground is +.
Thanks for video , which price welding machine
Very good job, I was waiting for a video about this welder. Thank you. Can you put a 5 kg wire coil?
Yes, the big coil I put in is 5kg.
I want to buy it, but I don't know.
เครื่องราคาโแรโมชั่นเครื่องบะเท่าไร เห็นลงโฆษณา 50%ราคา้ท่าไร
ราตาโปรโมชั่นเครื่องเชื้อมราคาเท่าไร?
Anch'io ho provato a mettere la bombola però noto quando lascio l'interruttore per saldare esce molto gas a vuoto e la bombola tende a svuotarsi presto cè qualche soluzione per far staccare la fuori uscita del gas quando si lascia l'interruttore?
Nice video Price or Modal konsa hai?
Quand on soude au semi auto on pousse la soudure et à l'arc on tire !
Thank you for feedback.
What price
This is the best welding machines which i had never seen before . That Is three in one arc welding, mig welding and tig welding. Where can i buy it and do we have it spare parts and how much it costs in Mauritian Rupees...... TheDust
I bought it in LIDL. Can't find it online.
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This is sold in German supermarkets LIDL in Europe. Parkside is their own brand. Usually affordable enough.
Normally the stuff they sell can be produced in China,... so if you look hard enough online you may find the same model sold under different brand.
I'm a beginner, I really wanted a welding machine, Even an old machine I wanted
Go on Craigslist and find an old Lincoln arc welder for $50... You'll be able to weld whatever you want with that badboy !!!
@@thistledewoutdoors3331 I'm from Brazil
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@@PintuYadav-qz3jy ?
Hello! Great video! what is the end verdict? Did this machine perform well on the different activities? I am a complete novice welder, but it seemed ok to me...
It's good. I have it for two years now and I have abused it(other videos on the channel) and it still works just fine.
@@MakeAndTest Thank you very much for your reply! Now only hoping Lidl has it back in stock soon haha!
Price?
@@lalansuparlan6554 It's in the video title, but around €200, depending on the country
Hopefully you’ve learned something from the comments in these two years and became a better welder. Don’t mean to be rude but if I was you I would have removed the video to avoid embarrassment. 😮 Sorry 😮
glad you didn't bolt the wings on that thing....sounds like it would've flown away
it's a good machine, but where can I find it? I live in mexico, I'm very interesting about it. Where did you buy it?
I bought it in supermarket LIDL. I saw someone comment that it can be bought online, but I can't find anywhere.
Insane Builds link to site where you can buy it: www.lidl-shop.nl/PARKSIDE-4-in-1-gas-lasapparaat/p100290638?mktc=shopping&gclid=Cj0KCQjw0YD4BRD2ARIsAHwmKVlxqppZzGgeSLzvbraCXBQcMPxgKRfYSO7JW2Z4TdATQDqUpkRKv1QaAjN-EALw_wcB&dt_dynco=BEB6D379A1590D97D43C5EA18CA31990
ohne Worte,toller Komentar
HM po
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merci pour le test, j'ai acheté le poste convaincu :) pour la torche Fronius DC TIG quel modèle exactement je n'arrive pas à trouver
Нет высокочастотного поджига дуги,барахло самое китайское,зря купил.
ага точна у меня ито лучше
@@Denis-38rus какой лучше?
Что можно купить такого плана и сколько стоит
За то что он наварил,слесарь его грохнет
А что Вы хотели за 220$ ??? Что б осциллятор ещё был??
Лучше бы начинку показал , какой фильтр входной?? Какие ключи , какие диодные сборки?? Есть ли дроссель на выходе ???
Вместо этого автор показал как учится варить?.)))
Don't trail a mig welder. Opposite way from stick welder is the correct way..
You can go either way.
Могли бы и получше сварного найти ато впечатление о аппарате неочень
Ещё раз подтверждает мнение о том, что,техника в руках обезьяны, груда металлома!)))
Бля, профессионал и с бенгальскими огнями сварит, если любитель с таким аппаратом может значит годная вещь
You can share the Link where you bought this fabulous welding machine
In germany you buy at at the regular LIDL grocery stores, 2 or 3 times a year. Or online for the whole year.
Bella macchina,ma quanto viene a costare una bombola di argon?
A filo si salda andando in avanti non in dietro come se fosse un elletrodo
Non c'e una regola scritta, avanti ho dietro dipende da cosa si salda, in avanti si salda meglio e chiude qualsiasi bolla ho vuoto che si può creare, tipo contenitori di liquidi, fusti per gas e simile, il resto non serve, poi ognuno fa come crede meglio e abitudine,
,,poi ognuno fa come crede meglio e abitudine'' Questa frase dimostra che non hai ideea di cosa stai parlando. Riguardando la posizione in cui lui mostra il test, il senso di saldatura non puo essere che in avanti. Potresti aver ragione se saldi in altri positioni tipo verticale, ma anche li, non puoi eseguire una saldatura ,,standard'' se usi il metodo ,,,fai come ti pare'' sono delle tecniche e muovimenti precisi. Aggiungo che in orizontale, e piu facile ed esce una saldatura molto piu pulita e di qualita se saldi in avanti, perche dovresti farla al contrario?
Мне одному показалось что тиг сваркой варить не умеют.
Нет, не одному!
Шото с ним не але. Сам себя не тянет с таким качеством сварки можно и на арехи заработать
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Abonner plz
Mesinnya mantaap.👍
Yg ngelas ngga mw ngluarin ilmu aslinya, ngelasnya sengaja kurang rapi.
😊😎👍
I've not seen this model in the lidl UK, have I missed it or is it not available in the UK stores yet ??
Cuando la ponen en venta en lidl me interesa
Лайк за без лишних слов
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how much ..?
ยังมีสินค้าไหม
Iska prise kitna h
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@@thaseangmab2302 ::::
Pues la (Flux y la mig) se soldán sobre empuje y no jalando pues la función del gas no proteje al material de allí en fuera la máquina se ve Q jala bien
Thank you sir for the effort we appreciate, i have a question please is it a AC/DC or just a DC welder ? In order to know if we can use it for aluminium as tig !???
Not good enough for aluminum.
I appreciate the review but you must be a novice because your welds with the mig were horrible..
And you are not wrong. This is my first take at MIG welding.
Parece muy buena máquina, pero con mig se suelda hacia el frente
Tohar Gabru Gabru
No siempre
Verdad 🇧🇷
No sabe soldar
En MiG soldamos hacia adelante, para que el gas proteja la aportación cuando aún esta líquida.
@@MRVERUM-gb3vr
Si,normalmente
Аппарат купил,варить не купил)
Hi thanks for video.
Is it really that loud? On my phone it sounds like a jumbo jet engine that needs a tune??
Aap Bohot samajdar insan hai bhaiya
хочу такую игрушку. хочу-хочу.
Хуйня а не игрушка, дома в поле хватит с горой инвектора и цена на них не высокая, а эта игрушка цена от космического Каробл я и нах он нужен в быту, ворота варить, воду, отопления или что!?
@@LG-gb4fl лучше иметь и не нуждаться, чем нуждаться и не иметь.
@@Тупой_Мессия а в чем нуждается, если у вас конструкторное бюро, я не знаю может она вам там пригодится, но в доме где ей работать, металоконструкции инвектор справляется на ура, даже часть о опления им делаю, а есть автоген любой труба водо или газ, подогрев, подрез и многое другое ещё чего бы не хватало я не испытывал сварку тиг что она мне нужна, а валятся мёртвым грузом, это не моё
@@LG-gb4fl Не спорю, но вот мне буквально два дня назад понадобилась сварка полуавтоматом дабы вварить новые пороги в автомобиль. И мне пришлось брать в аренду весь аппарат, ведь у меня самого есть только инвертор. Но вот теперь я всерьез задумался о приобретении хотя-бы полуавтомата, а в идеале и TIG аппарата.
@@Тупой_Мессия вот только для автомобиля, второй полуавтомат, а цена его, я где то смотрел космическая оправдает или нет!!??
Человек который варит .варил до этого? Или хотя бы смотрел как?
Как говорил дедушка Ленин, учиться, учиться и ещё раз учиться. Аппарат нормальный, но варить ты умеешь только электродом. На полуавтомате с газом при сварке тонкого металла основная ошибка в том что ты не даёшь ему остыть. Надо варить точками и дыр не будет. С металлом 3 мм мало подачи и много напряжения, проволока плавится слишком быстро и не успевает подаваться новая. Так же слишком близко держишь горелку. На 5 мм металле явно непровар, металл не прогревается как надо. Флюсовую проволоку не признаю т.к. она срёт + неоправданно высокая цена.
It looks like a great machine thanks for sharing. Where can I buy it?
I bought in locally
Quale tipo di gas occorre? Quanta autonomia con una bombolina? Grazie mille
first tig you did, your hand a lil bit shaky.....i suggest u should take breakfast first.....lol
You sir are most definetly right! Next time I'll just take a shot of vodka before I make a video :)
Наверно стоит дорога а не 199
Но аппарат хорош
Научится...
Главное исполнение мечты.
А вы Му & Хрю
Это как по свинский да?
Я люблю это устройство очень много.
Счастлив
@@zriyanmajid8 интересно узнать сколько стоит такой аппарат
@@ПатриотДагестана-о8б 100€ в Словакии в магазине Lidl
bonjour, je suis en RDCongo, comment faire pour avoir ce poste à souder àn fer fourer ?
Tres bien mais comment ce le procurer car chaque fois c'est la même chose on ne sait jamais où l'acheter
SVP dite ou peut on ce le procurer Merci
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Пока смотрел зайцев нахватался.
First learn how to set up a machine before reviewing a machine.
Thank you, I'll take your advice and practice more.
DUDE GO LEARN TO WELD FIRST
I will take your advice. thanks
Babush Babushi why you so rude?
@@waynelam1964 is rude to say the truth ?! Is IMPOSSIBLE someone which does not know to weld properly to test a welding machine, just like one which does not know to drive a car but use to test Ferrari. Yes, i'm rude, i can not speak like your mum indulgently.
@@thepreserver83 Parkside is not a Ferrari of welding machines. More like Opel Manta.
But you're right my welds will never be better. Even if I weld with Froinus...
Хороший аппарат, только что газ не отключается, только в ручную?
But in Lidl doesn't specify for TIG, only says MIG , WIG, MMA, buy you show us TIG process, clarify me please, thanks.
WIG is TIG but in german language (Wolfram Inert Gas). You can weld TIG with almost every welder, they just make it a "special" program for marketing purpose probably. Any MMa / stick welder can do basic scratch start TIG welding if you buy the torch and connect the gas hose directly to the bottle.
@@MakeAndTest many thanks for the information .
I have a last question, what's the maximum thick of the metal for welding in aluminum that I can work in this machine?
@@kingangel5837 Hard to say...I never tried aluminum with this thing. You can't TIG weld it because it's only DC TIG(for stainless). You can try and MIG weld it with aluminum wire.
@@MakeAndTest are you trying to say that I can't weld it with TIG but only with MIG in this machine? So de MIG os AC?
@@kingangel5837 Yes, MIG weld aluminum with proper gas.
Фильм про Чарли Чаплина, хреновое немое кино
Да точно,не твоё кино.