How you gunna get people to understand the slow pace of mystery of noire in wartorn cyberpunk world when everyone is into instant gratification? “Clip over 2 mins, movie sucks” mentality. Really just a reflection of the world you live in, not a movie flop.
I would suggest to the creator of this video that they add the “year” of the film since some of these are remakes of great films that were NOT flops when they came out. West Side Story, originally made in 1961 was likely not a flop, and should never have been remade.
With all the "black" films coming out the last few years. Hollywood thought it would be generous of them to throw a bone to the Latin community with the West Side Story remake.
@@andonemorething3713 John Carter that one Disney's biggest flop is not woke. On average he had more consecutive flops in the 80s than today, there was no "woke" there either. But since you idiots turned that word into a buzzword with no real meaning anymore.
It’s not just prequel, sequel, reboot and remake. It’s also being “lectured to,” “admonished” and having someone else’s “Political Viewpoint,” and their concepts of “Social Justice” crammed down our throats.
A few of these are really good Treasure Planet, Blade Runner 2049, Hugo, The Man from U.N.C.L.E. Some are guilty pleasures like Sahara, Stealth, Speed Racer. Such a shame
I mean it's a loss in number, not percentage. They could be overbudgeting, but barely able to cover the cost just a bit. Hence why it's good but also not profit
Hint. To improve your viewing experience, settings to 2x play speed. The background music is only slightly more annoying and you save 3:16 of your life for other things.
@@elijahwilliams3728 $240m budget + $100-120m marketing = $340-360m + $190m cuts taken by theatres = $630-650m break even point approx $630-650m - $570m box office = $60-80m loss And that's with the numbers that we know and being generous. It lost far more than they want to admit.
Notice how most of them are recent movies. I think Disney forgot that people watch movies for escapism and to be entertained, not to get spoon fed agendas and lectured in politics. They deserve to collapse in on themselves for putting their BS in front of what the fans want.
It's less of an agenda and more of them not understanding what actually makes diversity good. Plenty of diverse films receive universal praise, but only because their stories and characters are well-written. Just look at The Princess and the Frog, their last hand-drawn film. Diverse cast, good movie. Not a masterpiece, but good. Zootopia had diversity AND an agenda, but it had a good story with good characters (antagonist, not so much). Once they fill in the second half of the equation, they'll be back on top.
@@jeffreyriley8742 That’s the excuse they use. But what about the ones clearly bombing before and after that? What about the movies from other companies that didn’t bomb during the same time frame?
That’s inflation for you. If the list was adjusted for inflation it’d be quite different. The fact that Cutthroat Island was made in ’95 and still made the list tells how bad it bombed. Likewise The Postman…
What really surprised me is the number of films that lost over 100 million that I have never even heard about… Which basically means they bombed so bad in the US that international distribution was cut short.
Makes me quite happy to see Ghostbusters (2016), Cats, Fantastic Four (2015), Transformers: The Last Knight, Dark Phoenix, Space Jam: A New Legacy, Terminator: Dark Fate, Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny, The Flash, and The Marvels on here 😂 But sad to see Blade Runner 2049 on here. That movie’s a masterpiece ❤️
Never understood why John Carter flopped. It was a nice Movie IMO. First Place is fully deserved. Walked out of the Cinema after 20 Minutes. Disneys Downfall continues and everybody knows why.
John Carter flopped cause it cost 300 million just to produce so marketing would have their budget close to 450 million or even more. It was a good movie just couldn’t make back the money. This video just takes into account loss but doesn’t say how much money they made.
@@ibrakadabra9073 Everyone who had read Edgar Rice Burroughs “Warrior of Mars” (🙋🏻♂️) series definitely enjoyed John Carter. They took the first three novels of the series and turned it into a movie.
@@ignaciofuentes2642 Another Mars movie flopped just as they were about to kick off their marketing push (Mars Needs Moms, maybe? I don't remember which now) and the rumor is an executive wanted the "of Mars" part scrubbed from the original title "John Carter of Mars" because he didn't want it to be connected to the other. Another rumor was that some "market research" returned that the name was corny as in some "Killer Werewolves OF MARS!" vibes. Either way, the whole marketing campaign, the title art, the posters, everything was scrapped in order to be re-worked in a very abbreviated timeframe and the limits imposed by the studio really cramped what they could say or show.
Keep in mind when you search up a movie's budget, it only shows how much money they spent making the movie but it doesn't show the marketing and distribution prices.
An animated movie can lose over $100 million due to high production and marketing costs combined with disappointing box office performance. If the film fails to attract a large audience or faces strong competition, it might not recover its investment. Shifts in audience preferences and the impact of streaming services can further contribute to these losses.
Never would expect The Lone Ranger to perform badly money wise despite how much I loved it. Depp's great acting and the train chase scene while Hans Zimmer's composition of the Overture Final playing was just incredible! It influenced my own sister who will probably for the rest of life call me "kemosabe" just for laughs hahah!
Personally, I think it was a little off in tone. Both for JD and AH. It was more Tonto's story. A lot of script are how can clowns and buffons end up heros. Sometimes it's charming and funny, and sometimes it's just off the mark. Wasn't there an mgm guy Thornburg (?), who did resorts where target audiences gave bad reactions to prerelease testing? Might want to do that if you can find another ... Thornburg.
Yeah I loved Battleship. The plot was simplistic, but it was a visual feast and just all-around fun. Shame it came out around the same time as The Avengers, you really can't compete with that :/
@@WillMuny Ok, a bit sad if you have to ask, but I can give you some hints, I can only say for myself, though. Titan A.E., Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within and Blade Runner 2049 are some of the best sci-fi movies Ive seen, The Wolfman, Cutthroat Island and Tenet are very good movies, each of them gives you something unique, and John Carter, The Matrix Resurrections, Terminator: Dark Fate, Sahara, The Mummy and 47 Ronin are quite ok, harmless to watch on a sunday afternoon. All of these should have grossed more imo, but oh well, as I said, not for everyone.
3:52 #30 was the bomb that put Carolco Pictures out of business. They produced the first three Rambo movies, Terminator 2, and Basic Instinct, but Cutthroat Island wiped them out.
@trv actually The Little mermaid did flop. Disney spent 300 million on the film and movies need to make 2.5 times what they spent to get a profit. The little mermaid generated 600 million so they didn't make a profit.
When I learned that Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets was a box office failure due to its "incomprehensible and complex plot," I felt like a genius, born into a family of geniuses. Seriously? IS THIS a complex plot?
What i don't get is how animated movies cost so much to lose so much in the first place, there's no actors with huge fees, live locations or sets or stunts etc.
big name actors get paid for voice work in animated movies so they still are a factor. the power bill for the massive number of computers to render the cgi makes the animation itself costly.
I agree. I knew a few I liked weren't great movies or would win an Oscar but they were fun and entertaining. Didn't know they did THAT badly at the box office.
Two big lessons here: 1. Stop pushing the next franchise component that’s over tired and nobody cares about. Reboots, sequels etc have gone too far 2. Maybe don’t invest an insane amount of money into your new films and start doing lower budget projects. Independent studios are leading the way here with quality content that isn’t an excessively bloated budget
Could've made 40-50 fully creative, studio-uninvolved indie films for The Marvel's budget, which has a way higher chance of success, but whatever, their loss.
Something to mention: The budget for "Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan" was much lower than that for "Star Trek: The Motion Picture" but "Star Trek II" was a much more entertaining movie. I think its because they focused more on telling a great story.
Alright, I'll stand up as a target for ridicule. I liked Hugo a lot, I enjoyed John Carter, and I thought Mortal Engines was an avenue worth exploring. Let the arrows fly. ✌
They were still flops, losing vast amounts of money. Personally, I enjoyed Valerian, Speed Racer, Final Fantasy, Black Adam, Titan A.E., Cutthroat Island, Haunted Mansion, and The Marvels, but they were still flops.
It’s not that these movies didn’t make a ton of money at theaters. The biggest reason they flopped is because they cost too much to make. If your movie generates $200 million but cost $300 million to make, you need to work on lowering your budget. You’re spending too much money paying big name actors and special effects.
Not to mention overspending on marketing. One or two of these seemed to be everywhere in the advertising market, as if the world was supposed to stop so people could go see a movie.
Ouch, Jack the Giant Slayer lost 103M. That was a really good movie. I'd go rewatch that in the theater. Same goes for John Carter OUCH, it lost 136M, I'd rewarch that in the theater too.
I still remember when Waterworld was considered the definition of a box office flop. Now it can't even crack the top 80. (Granted, I think it eventually made enough to get out of the red)
I love how most of them are very recent, to show how big movie companies like Disney have a very different vision about movie production than their costumers. Movies aren't for mass production. Every single time they try it, they failed. There is no big franchises, big actors, big directors and big budgets that can save a objective bad movie. It never worked, it won't work now. Movies are art, not a product to quickly consume.
Not every box office “Bomb” is a Bad movie! The Man from U.N.C.L.E was an Excellent and hilarious film! I also liked John Carter a LOT and it deserves more attention/recognition! 😎
Some of these definitely earned their losses, but there were some others that were actually at least decent films to watch. And of course, there were films like Tenet that only really got on here because of when it was released. I feel like that movie would have had more success if not for being released in the middle of a pandemic.
When I was a kid in the 1950s old movies were syndicated on television under the title "Million Dollar Movie", which suggested a massive budget. Now...
I was very happy to see that the movie with Bree Larson topped the list. She became a self entitled Diva after a bit of success following the first Captain Marvel movie. After this train wreck her career took a huge nosedive.😊
Gotta give her credit for Room. She won an oscar for that role and it's a very good movie. Unfortunately the rest is history but I will always have a soft spot for that film. It proves she is a great actress... or atleast she was
Gotta give her credit for Room. She won an oscar for that role and it's a very good movie. Unfortunately the rest is history but I will always have a soft spot for that film. It proves she is a great actress... or atleast she was
Hey, I have an idea for a movie: let’s take a once-beloved IP, hire 37 screenwriters to write witty, anachronistic, Wheedon-jabber, change the gender/color/persuasion of some characters, do 90% of the scenes on green screen so the actors aren’t ever in the same room, throw in a bunch of CGI so that the whole thing is just this shy of animation, toss in a major heaping of “the message” and add 23 associate producers who probably run the Israeli mafia. My only question: Why has this not been tried before?
Some genuinely great movies that don't deserve to be on this list (The Man from UNCLE, Blade Runner 2049, and even John Carter). Plenty of movies here deserved their spot here too.
The story and pacing was all off though. The first time I watched it I came out trying to remember everything. It had ok humor and action but some of the scenes definitely didnt fit the western setting like the almost superhero esque train scene.
I just watched it and thought it was TERRIBLE. The casting is AWFUL. No chemistry between the two, and Cara Delvigne is just genuinely unlikable. Perma resting bitch face. Not a feminine bone in her body
The title repelled me. WTF is "City of a Thousand Planets" supposed to mean? These morons made a mix of "L'Empire des mille planètes" and "La Cité des eaux mouvantes"
I love the scene where they got him tied down and all those old guys in suits are like giving him a trial or something, then he turns into the wolfman and starts eating them ... and they can't get out 💀
I have a few questions. Where is Water World on this list? Are the loss amounts calculated with inflation? How does one lose $125M on an animated feature? (Sinbad). Finally, I Loved Battle Ship, John Carter, Sahara, Treasure Planet and Tenet (Seventh Son was done Dirty, the book series (The Wardstone Chronicles, 13 books) is one of the best I have ever read, so much better than The Harry Potter Books, but for some reason they tried to compress all the books in one movie. Some of the characters gave me literal goose bumps when they entered the page.
Yes. It's a shame. Mind you, it was a lot to get your head around. I saw it three times in the cinema, which is how long it took me to work out the time-lines.
I get most of them, but John Carter is pretty solid if you like flashy sci fi stories. Idk, its not a masterpiece but it is pretty good, even really good compared to the other top contenders
There are flops from people not going to the theater to see the movie, and there are flops from people not liking the movie. The Suicide Squad was a financial flop because people didn't go see the movie in theaters because of covid scares, but people love The Suicide Squad movie. It was a fan success.💯
I find it pretty funny that of all those listed, a fair number of them were ones I enjoyed. I'll wager that all the critics crapped all over them. Which is why I always watch them and usually find them quite enjoyable.
I think one of the problems with movies today is that the company thinks if they put millions and millions of dollars in a movie, it will bring people in to watch. Which is not always the case. Sometimes, it is not how much money you put in the movie, but the quality and the casting of the movie. I have seen many times that low-budget movies make hundreds of millions of dollars simply because it was a good quality movie.
Blade Runner 2049 deserved way better. Man from u.n.c.l.e, King Arthur, Speed racer and Rise of the guardians were flawed but they are underrated decently entertaining movies.
A masterpiece! It should also be noted that it was a fail,at first but later recouped there loses for instance Rise of the Guardians loses were likely overestmated+in only two years DVD sales ALONE made 200 million firmly placing it in the red(not even counting merch sales).
Odd thing is is a lot of these films are good but toxic news stopped people seeing them or they came out at same time as a huge hit, but some are just really bad
I'm really bummed that Sahara didn't do better. There are dozens of Clive Cussler action/adventure novels that would make an excellent series of movies 😢
I heard of every single one but did not see most of them. There's just not an audience for many of these movies so how do the producers think they'll make their money. Also, with so many flops, where's the professional know how? The writers, producers, directors, and actors are supposed know what they're doing. The lay person shouldn't have to point out the errors of their ways.
2:50 The Alamo - Efren Ramirez (Pedro from Napoleon Dynamite) had the option to take part in The Alamo (2004) which had big stars in it. That could be a big break for him. This however would have a conflicting schedule with the then unknown indie film Napoleon Dynamite in where he also got a role. He still chose Napoleon Dynamite and he got let go by his manager because of that choice. Napoleon Dynamite with a budget of only 400k USD, profited more than 100x its original budget (46 million USD)
Joker 2 will be joining the list soon
I don't think it cost that much to make.
Neither movie is a "joker" movie but a look into mental disorder
@@giovannyc3886 Guess what almost every Batman villain has
@@TheGingiGamer 😮💨😮💨😮💨
Arthur Fleck dies The End
@@giovannyc3886 Marketing is where it lost a lot
@giovannyc3886 it actually costed $200 million just on production without taking into account the amount for advertising & splitting with theaters🥴
Blade Runner 2049 was a *FLOP!????*
WTF 👀
How you gunna get people to understand the slow pace of mystery of noire in wartorn cyberpunk world when everyone is into instant gratification? “Clip over 2 mins, movie sucks” mentality. Really just a reflection of the world you live in, not a movie flop.
The original "Blade Runner" was considered a flop at the time of its release. Over time it grew in popularity and it was enough to get a sequel made.
Blade Runner 2049 is just great in my humble opinion
@@davidkatsmam It cost to much to make, so it lost money but it was not a bad film.
@ True. I really like that movie thou….
It's not an accident that all these lazy remakes and re-boots were flops made within the last 10 years
Hollywood has fallen off, in a big way
I think a lot of these companies make trash movies on purpose, so they can have a massive tax write off.
the biggest successes of recent years are other sequels and reboots
@@destroyerzilla7634 It's all junk.
Lack of originality among "other" things.
Yeah that. Also the fact Hollywood is super WOKE
I would suggest to the creator of this video that they add the “year” of the film since some of these are remakes of great films that were NOT flops when they came out. West Side Story, originally made in 1961 was likely not a flop, and should never have been remade.
With all the "black" films coming out the last few years. Hollywood thought it would be generous of them to throw a bone to the Latin community with the West Side Story remake.
The Mummy was on this list. I thought it was a box office hit was there a remake they are referring to?
@@jrclem79I think it’s the shitty Tom Cruise version that’s on here. The Brendan Frazer one was a big hit.
@@nickgodfrey1148100% correct. It's that trash ass, terrible Tom Cruise one 😂😂
@@KingGogh Yeah it was absolute shit. Probably a big blow to little Tom’s ego. 😁
Well, Disney dominated the top of the charts….
Not surprising. Disney owns the damn world.
Trying to be "woke" and "progressive" is backfiring, thank God.
The flop charts
@@andonemorething3713 John Carter that one Disney's biggest flop is not woke.
On average he had more consecutive flops in the 80s than today, there was no "woke" there either.
But since you idiots turned that word into a buzzword with no real meaning anymore.
Disney also dominates the biggest hits
I still remember Jay Leno’s “LoneRanger” joke: He took off his mask, looked at the camera and said “Who cares, no one’s watching anyway” 😄
Prequel, sequel, reboot, remake. That's the problem.
Absence of originalty
No, the problem is that most people don't go to see original movies, so when a movie does hit, Hollywood milks that property dry until it fails.
And people with no business acting. There was a time when movies would flop and you never saw the actor/actress again for a very long time.
It’s not just prequel, sequel, reboot and remake. It’s also being “lectured to,” “admonished” and having someone else’s “Political Viewpoint,” and their concepts of “Social Justice” crammed down our throats.
@@williampaz2092 It's always been that way, the only difference is that you can feel better about yourself by whining.
A few of these are really good Treasure Planet, Blade Runner 2049, Hugo, The Man from U.N.C.L.E. Some are guilty pleasures like Sahara, Stealth, Speed Racer. Such a shame
100%
Sinbad is also a decent one.
I mean it's a loss in number, not percentage. They could be overbudgeting, but barely able to cover the cost just a bit. Hence why it's good but also not profit
Those ALL sucked
Titan a.e was a good movie aswell, imo
Yeaaah!!! Give it up for the Marvels! They’re number one!!!!
Number 1 of bad.
It will likely be surpassed by Snow White next year.
Even though it was number one…it is still a big steamy pile of number 2!
Yep, because Hollywood does not know how to write female characters anymore.
@@arcticphoenix2789 still better than battle shonen female characters that are just for fanservice
Hint. To improve your viewing experience, settings to 2x play speed. The background music is only slightly more annoying and you save 3:16 of your life for other things.
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Or if your double tap skip is 5 sec. Save more time 😂
But then I couldn't read comments as it plays.
Personally I liked The man from UNCLE and Bladerunner 2049
And Sahara. Fun movies.
Bladerunner 2049 had fantastic performances.
It seems like Blade Runner movies are doomed to be cult Classics. They're making a THIRD, btw.
Wolfman was good too
"UNCLE" had a good 'lock' on the 1960's theme!
@@jwayk9750 "Sahara" had a more original plot than most films, today!
Little Mermaid '23 lost over $100M. Why didn't that make the list?
They reached their diversity quota.
It only lost 5m
@@elijahwilliams3728
You're way off.
@@DaveMan1K I just looked it up... State your source then
@@elijahwilliams3728
$240m budget
+ $100-120m marketing
= $340-360m
+ $190m cuts taken by theatres
= $630-650m break even point approx
$630-650m - $570m box office
= $60-80m loss
And that's with the numbers that we know and being generous. It lost far more than they want to admit.
Notice how most of them are recent movies. I think Disney forgot that people watch movies for escapism and to be entertained, not to get spoon fed agendas and lectured in politics. They deserve to collapse in on themselves for putting their BS in front of what the fans want.
It's less of an agenda and more of them not understanding what actually makes diversity good. Plenty of diverse films receive universal praise, but only because their stories and characters are well-written.
Just look at The Princess and the Frog, their last hand-drawn film. Diverse cast, good movie. Not a masterpiece, but good. Zootopia had diversity AND an agenda, but it had a good story with good characters (antagonist, not so much). Once they fill in the second half of the equation, they'll be back on top.
Several of them are also COVID movies.
@@jeffreyriley8742 That’s the excuse they use. But what about the ones clearly bombing before and after that? What about the movies from other companies that didn’t bomb during the same time frame?
That’s inflation for you. If the list was adjusted for inflation it’d be quite different.
The fact that Cutthroat Island was made in ’95 and still made the list tells how bad it bombed. Likewise The Postman…
What really surprised me is the number of films that lost over 100 million that I have never even heard about…
Which basically means they bombed so bad in the US that international distribution was cut short.
Makes me quite happy to see Ghostbusters (2016), Cats, Fantastic Four (2015), Transformers: The Last Knight, Dark Phoenix, Space Jam: A New Legacy, Terminator: Dark Fate, Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny, The Flash, and The Marvels on here 😂
But sad to see Blade Runner 2049 on here. That movie’s a masterpiece ❤️
Marvels not so marvelous!
Ban woke!
@@piloto88ed if they keep going the way they are going, they'll go bankrupt before we get a chance to ban em.
i was expecting to see she hulk on here but i guess the cgi only cost 50 bucks so i could not lose much
@@adriankearney4850show, not a movie
Never understood why John Carter flopped. It was a nice Movie IMO.
First Place is fully deserved. Walked out of the Cinema after 20 Minutes.
Disneys Downfall continues and everybody knows why.
John Carter flopped cause it cost 300 million just to produce so marketing would have their budget close to 450 million or even more. It was a good movie just couldn’t make back the money. This video just takes into account loss but doesn’t say how much money they made.
The title and marketing didn't help. Nobody knew what the heck the movie was about.
@@ibrakadabra9073 Everyone who had read Edgar Rice Burroughs “Warrior of Mars” (🙋🏻♂️) series definitely enjoyed John Carter. They took the first three novels of the series and turned it into a movie.
Where does all the money go I think there's some money laundering going on Or studios looking for a tax write off
@@ignaciofuentes2642 Another Mars movie flopped just as they were about to kick off their marketing push (Mars Needs Moms, maybe? I don't remember which now) and the rumor is an executive wanted the "of Mars" part scrubbed from the original title "John Carter of Mars" because he didn't want it to be connected to the other. Another rumor was that some "market research" returned that the name was corny as in some "Killer Werewolves OF MARS!" vibes. Either way, the whole marketing campaign, the title art, the posters, everything was scrapped in order to be re-worked in a very abbreviated timeframe and the limits imposed by the studio really cramped what they could say or show.
I find it mind boggling that you could lose $100 million and then some on an animated film. No actors, per se and no special effects. Truly amazing.
Keep in mind when you search up a movie's budget, it only shows how much money they spent making the movie but it doesn't show the marketing and distribution prices.
An animated movie can lose over $100 million due to high production and marketing costs combined with disappointing box office performance. If the film fails to attract a large audience or faces strong competition, it might not recover its investment. Shifts in audience preferences and the impact of streaming services can further contribute to these losses.
Titan A.E. had a budget of $75 million. Hard to understand how they could lose more than what they spent.
@@alross10That was the budget to produce it. Would that include marketing and distribution costs?
Paying hundreds, sometimes thousands of animators and artists is way more expensive than paying actors.
LeBron is use to flopping
Like this more, fellas.
And cheek slapping.
Just gonna put this out there, but Space Jam (1996)
$80 million budget
$230 million worldwide gross
@@RyanRussell-h6m Why does LeBron insist on challenging Michael Jordan’s legacy? Does he REALLY think that much of himself?
Flop king indeed.😂😂😂
Never would expect The Lone Ranger to perform badly money wise despite how much I loved it. Depp's great acting and the train chase scene while Hans Zimmer's composition of the Overture Final playing was just incredible! It influenced my own sister who will probably for the rest of life call me "kemosabe" just for laughs hahah!
Personally, I think it was a little off in tone. Both for JD and AH. It was more Tonto's story.
A lot of script are how can clowns and buffons end up heros. Sometimes it's charming and funny, and sometimes it's just off the mark.
Wasn't there an mgm guy Thornburg (?), who did resorts where target audiences gave bad reactions to prerelease testing? Might want to do that if you can find another ... Thornburg.
I love The Lone Ranger too
Some of these movies where actually good
💯💯💯💯
Yup, I'm suspect it got something to do with bad timing and marketing.
Yeah I loved Battleship. The plot was simplistic, but it was a visual feast and just all-around fun. Shame it came out around the same time as The Avengers, you really can't compete with that :/
The ones at the beginning of the list
Terrible marketing
I didn't know that Disney was a non-profit organisation 😮
Treasure Planet was great.
Yea it was
I agree
That one... My boys... Is a movie that REALLY deserves a good live-action adaptation
Beautiful and astonishing effects movie!
its about flops, not if people liked or not, and it flopped
1:37 That’s unfortunate for Treasure Planet, it’s actually a really good movie.
I feel like this one can’t be real. Imma research it myself
Some of these are really good movies, just not for wide audience.
Like which ones?
Treasure planet
Titan A.E. is a classic, in my opinion.
@@WillMuny Ok, a bit sad if you have to ask, but I can give you some hints, I can only say for myself, though. Titan A.E., Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within and Blade Runner 2049 are some of the best sci-fi movies Ive seen, The Wolfman, Cutthroat Island and Tenet are very good movies, each of them gives you something unique, and John Carter, The Matrix Resurrections, Terminator: Dark Fate, Sahara, The Mummy and 47 Ronin are quite ok, harmless to watch on a sunday afternoon. All of these should have grossed more imo, but oh well, as I said, not for everyone.
Blade Runner 2049 is gripping, thought-provoking and cinematic. A real immersion into dystopia. But it's just too slow. Shame.
Lone Ranger was a fun film, especially if you liked Pirates of the Caribbean.
I liked John carter
Jungle cruise and Valerian arent that bad, too
Virginia!
Rise of guardians was pretty good as well imho.
As did I. Of course I read all of the books and loved them.
John Carter needed to go Rated R and characters be a bit dirty
With "Wonder Woman 84" taking place in the 80s, they really missed the trick having Diana taking part in a spandex leotard-wearing aerobics class.
Can't wait for Zeggy's Snow White!
Unless it goes straight to D+, I don't think it will be released anytime soon. Or at all. Hopefully.
Weird? Weird!😂
Her version of WEST SIDE STORY lost $100 million.
@@insertnamehere5809 The Shazam movie she was in lost $122 million.
It going to beat the Marvel's for sure either that or Captain America 4 aka Falcon movie.
3:52 #30 was the bomb that put Carolco Pictures out of business. They produced the first three Rambo movies, Terminator 2, and Basic Instinct, but Cutthroat Island wiped them out.
Lot of Disney fails, obviously.
and many great successes are always Disney
@@destroyerzilla7634Stop you are trying to make sense! 😊😉 Lots of agenda people here and they are all tired
Wokisney? i pray for tehir bankrupt.
When you realize Little Mermaid didn't flop....😂
@trv actually The Little mermaid did flop. Disney spent 300 million on the film and movies need to make 2.5 times what they spent to get a profit. The little mermaid generated 600 million so they didn't make a profit.
Some of these made losses at the box office but were still great movies regardless
Now, I liked ''John Carter'' and ''Battleship''.
There are some good movies on the list, but a fail at the box office at theatre. Nice on DVD.
Some of these movies I do like but I noticed the ones that did badly are the Woke ones.
You were the one who did
It doesn’t matter if you liked them! Jjking 😂
john carter yes
When I learned that Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets was a box office failure due to its "incomprehensible and complex plot," I felt like a genius, born into a family of geniuses. Seriously? IS THIS a complex plot?
The Man from U.N.C.L.E is a pretty good film
A few of these were films that I enjoyed. I think sometimes the problem is marketing, or perhaps just bad timing.
But it is laughable at the amount of flops that were remakes.
What i don't get is how animated movies cost so much to lose so much in the first place, there's no actors with huge fees, live locations or sets or stunts etc.
big name actors get paid for voice work in animated movies so they still are a factor.
the power bill for the massive number of computers to render the cgi makes the animation itself costly.
Being box office flops doesn't mean they're actually bad movies. There's a few on this list that I actually like quite a bit.
I liked The Last Duel myself.
Treasure planet is an underrated masterpiece that deserves recognition.
I agree. I knew a few I liked weren't great movies or would win an Oscar but they were fun and entertaining. Didn't know they did THAT badly at the box office.
Stealth is better than it is. Nobody notices the computer's character arc.
Title doesn’t say anything about bad films.
Two big lessons here:
1. Stop pushing the next franchise component that’s over tired and nobody cares about. Reboots, sequels etc have gone too far
2. Maybe don’t invest an insane amount of money into your new films and start doing lower budget projects. Independent studios are leading the way here with quality content that isn’t an excessively bloated budget
I will say it. The 2004 version of The Alamo is wildly underrated.
I love the Alamo movie
If you're old enough, like I am, you might remember the 1955 Alamo movie "The Last
Command", great last siege scene!
The 1959 Alamo with John Wayne is my all time favorite movie.
Right, very spectacular, and the battle scenes were realistic and brutal,but probabilly the production's costs were too big.
Billy Bob as Davey Crockett was very entertaining.
So basically 80% of the movies made in the last 25 years.
I think most of those "flops" happened because studios keep spending too much money on movies. Why not keep budgets low?
Because too many cast members, technical fields and directors demand too damned much money.
Union requirements are a big factor in production budgets.
Could've made 40-50 fully creative, studio-uninvolved indie films for The Marvel's budget, which has a way higher chance of success, but whatever, their loss.
Something to mention: The budget for "Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan" was much lower than that for "Star Trek: The Motion Picture" but "Star Trek II" was a much more entertaining movie. I think its because they focused more on telling a great story.
So this means BATTLEFIELD EARTH was more financially successful than all of these. Scary.
💀
I think its budget was relatively low
@@Stephen-to7jx That's the key, but given the movie's infamy, it's still shocking.
I'm still amazed Pluto Nash has fallen so far down the list. It was not that long ago it was being touted as the biggest flop of all time.
Alright, I'll stand up as a target for ridicule. I liked Hugo a lot, I enjoyed John Carter, and I thought Mortal Engines was an avenue worth exploring. Let the arrows fly. ✌
They were still flops, losing vast amounts of money. Personally, I enjoyed Valerian, Speed Racer, Final Fantasy, Black Adam, Titan A.E., Cutthroat Island, Haunted Mansion, and The Marvels, but they were still flops.
I agree I enjoy watching them, john Carter I was sad never got a sequel
@@LadyDeirdre True enough.
Blade Runner 2049 and Hugo i like them a Lot.
Both good movies
Some really good movies on the list. Surprising.
It’s not that these movies didn’t make a ton of money at theaters. The biggest reason they flopped is because they cost too much to make. If your movie generates $200 million but cost $300 million to make, you need to work on lowering your budget. You’re spending too much money paying big name actors and special effects.
Hey, it costs a lot of money to indoctrinate an audience with Leftist propaganda!
Not to mention overspending on marketing. One or two of these seemed to be everywhere in the advertising market, as if the world was supposed to stop so people could go see a movie.
Well back in the day, a Big actor name is more than enough to sell tickets, but yeah, those days are long gone.
Ouch, Jack the Giant Slayer lost 103M. That was a really good movie. I'd go rewatch that in the theater. Same goes for John Carter OUCH, it lost 136M, I'd rewarch that in the theater too.
80s action movies and some 90s movies can never be matched
They can, by 60s and 70s western movies from Germany and Italy. 😎😎😎😎
@@renatoherren4217 yes they are also iconic. However current cgi superhero crap has destroyed cinema.
the 60s and 70s had the best films ever...
80s had the best horror movies
Some of these flops were really good in my opinion. Battleship, John Carter, Man from uncle, blade runner 2049 and Tenet were really good🤟
I still remember when Waterworld was considered the definition of a box office flop. Now it can't even crack the top 80. (Granted, I think it eventually made enough to get out of the red)
I thought exactly the same thing! Good heavens that movie was utter garbage 🤣
Waterworld made enough on home video and with TV sales to eventually become profitable
I liked waterworld 😊
I wonder if they adjusted this list for inflation though. That's forgotten so often when people talk about movie costs and losses
@@ald1144 I was hoping someone would mention this fact.
Personally, Treasure Planet, Sinbad: Legend of the Seven Seas, and John Carter are some of my most rewatched movies.
you forgot about the latest Star Wars flop
no star wars movie has been a flop
@@destroyerzilla7634 Solo?.
@@deadon4847 If only they added high-dollar miniseries to this list, huh?
Yeah the story abut the “ lesbian space witches “ is pretty funny … it was so awful 😞
@@destroyerzilla7634 They haven’t made a Star Wars movie since Solo, because Solo flopped so bad.
I love how most of them are very recent, to show how big movie companies like Disney have a very different vision about movie production than their costumers. Movies aren't for mass production. Every single time they try it, they failed. There is no big franchises, big actors, big directors and big budgets that can save a objective bad movie. It never worked, it won't work now. Movies are art, not a product to quickly consume.
Not my boy treasure planet! That was such an under rated movie
I thought The Postman was quite good, and the ending was really emotional.
I never thought that I would see the day when an Indiana Jones movie would be featured on a list like this.
I know, indiana jones and the STRONG INDEPENDENT HARPY was such a great film. How did it ever make this list?
Still a good movie yet. Not the quality of the trilogy of course, but really a worthy successor. Far better than 4.
@@rKhael53 Haven't seen it, never will. So, I'll take your word for it.
I regret seeing it, not for the movie, it wasn't so bad, but how all the protagonists had became OLD !😢
And yes, the female lead was AN harpy!
@@rKhael53
Same. I liked 1, 3 and 5 better than 2 and 4.
Not every box office “Bomb” is a Bad movie! The Man from U.N.C.L.E was an Excellent and hilarious film!
I also liked John Carter a LOT and it deserves more attention/recognition! 😎
Some of these definitely earned their losses, but there were some others that were actually at least decent films to watch. And of course, there were films like Tenet that only really got on here because of when it was released. I feel like that movie would have had more success if not for being released in the middle of a pandemic.
That's the only movie that I watched in theatres during COVID and I absolutely enjoyed it ,moreso in IMAX. It is the 1st 4k Bluray that I owned.
Interesting video, there are a handful on here that i actually enjoyed so i was surprised at some of these!
Well done Disney !!
and many great successes are always Disney
@@destroyerzilla7634, not lately.
When I was a kid in the 1950s old movies were syndicated on television under the title "Million Dollar Movie", which suggested a massive budget. Now...
I was very happy to see that the movie with Bree Larson topped the list. She became a self entitled Diva after a bit of success following the first Captain Marvel movie. After this train wreck her career took a huge nosedive.😊
And mostly because her movie was promoted to have something KEY to what would be the next Avengers movie, wich spoiler, was a lie xD
Gotta give her credit for Room. She won an oscar for that role and it's a very good movie.
Unfortunately the rest is history but I will always have a soft spot for that film. It proves she is a great actress... or atleast she was
Gotta give her credit for Room. She won an oscar for that role and it's a very good movie.
Unfortunately the rest is history but I will always have a soft spot for that film. It proves she is a great actress... or atleast she was
No one cares
@GeneralJLC no shit, that's why her last movie flopped so hard.
Can't believe battleship and The Lone Ranger were flopped. They were such good movies.
Hey, I have an idea for a movie: let’s take a once-beloved IP, hire 37 screenwriters to write witty, anachronistic, Wheedon-jabber, change the gender/color/persuasion of some characters, do 90% of the scenes on green screen so the actors aren’t ever in the same room, throw in a bunch of CGI so that the whole thing is just this shy of animation, toss in a major heaping of “the message” and add 23 associate producers who probably run the Israeli mafia.
My only question: Why has this not been tried before?
Lol😂
"My only question: Why has this not been tried before?
"
What makes you think it hasn't????
@@antonbruce1241 yeah, IKR?
what does israel have to do with this 😂 you live in fantasy land
@@aviv1002 do you live in Israel?
Sinbad, Treasure Planet and Rise of the Guardians were underappreciated during their release, now they're considered classics :3
Cats should have lost more, that movie was horrendous
Trailer alone was creepy
It was a catastrophe....
A crime against cats!
Well, cats don’t have any money so they couldn’t buy a ticket to see it 😅.
😂😂😂😂
Some genuinely great movies that don't deserve to be on this list (The Man from UNCLE, Blade Runner 2049, and even John Carter). Plenty of movies here deserved their spot here too.
Regardless of Box Office returns some of these are actually good movies while others deserve to be flops.
I feel bad for John Carter and Battleship. Both released and flopped the same year. I did enjoy both movies, tho I'm not a fan of the main lead.
Megalopolis needs to be added to this list!
The Lone Ranger was a fun movie.
The story and pacing was all off though. The first time I watched it I came out trying to remember everything. It had ok humor and action but some of the scenes definitely didnt fit the western setting like the almost superhero esque train scene.
@nitroxylictv ok
The Valerian movie is quite underrated.
It's a fantastic stoner movie and one of my favorites of THAT genre.
I just watched it and thought it was TERRIBLE. The casting is AWFUL. No chemistry between the two, and Cara Delvigne is just genuinely unlikable. Perma resting bitch face. Not a feminine bone in her body
I was interested when in released but never actually got myself out the door to see it.
The title repelled me.
WTF is "City of a Thousand Planets" supposed to mean?
These morons made a mix of "L'Empire des mille planètes" and "La Cité des eaux mouvantes"
@@nuwandalton It was AWFUL
Some of these films will continue quietly earning money as channel-fillers on TVs all over the world
Wolfman was Awesom
It really was.....
Thought so too
I don't think it's a fantastic movie, but the unrated version of Wolfman is probably my favorite movie on this entire list.
I love the scene where they got him tied down and all those old guys in suits are like giving him a trial or something, then he turns into the wolfman and starts eating them ... and they can't get out 💀
I liked it a lot also.
I have a few questions. Where is Water World on this list? Are the loss amounts calculated with inflation? How does one lose $125M on an animated feature? (Sinbad). Finally, I Loved Battle Ship, John Carter, Sahara, Treasure Planet and Tenet (Seventh Son was done Dirty, the book series (The Wardstone Chronicles, 13 books) is one of the best I have ever read, so much better than The Harry Potter Books, but for some reason they tried to compress all the books in one movie. Some of the characters gave me literal goose bumps when they entered the page.
TENET incurred a loss, due to Covid 19, Quarantine.
Yes. It's a shame. Mind you, it was a lot to get your head around. I saw it three times in the cinema, which is how long it took me to work out the time-lines.
You have to keep in mind some of these movies premiered during the pandemic ( COVID) when we were not allowed to be present at the theaters.
So satisfying to marvels as #1
Snow Brown is coming …
Snow White after the stars hysterical outburst post election will top this list. Or maybe delay the release after Harris wins in 2028.
I get most of them, but John Carter is pretty solid if you like flashy sci fi stories. Idk, its not a masterpiece but it is pretty good, even really good compared to the other top contenders
A lot of these movies came out during COVID and went straight to streaming - I wonder how they would have done with open and full theaters.
There are flops from people not going to the theater to see the movie, and there are flops from people not liking the movie. The Suicide Squad was a financial flop because people didn't go see the movie in theaters because of covid scares, but people love The Suicide Squad movie. It was a fan success.💯
I honestly liked The Lone Ranger. 😂
Ben-Hur ! They knew perfectly well they wouldn’t come close to the original !
I find it pretty funny that of all those listed, a fair number of them were ones I enjoyed. I'll wager that all the critics crapped all over them. Which is why I always watch them and usually find them quite enjoyable.
Indiana Jones, the Douche of Destiney is what the movie should of been called, it was painful to watch.
Good to know that i am not part of the majority. Plenty of movies in the list that i enjoyed.
the Postman was awesome!
Feel bad that Solo is on this list. I lost count how often I heard, “I didn’t give it a chance, not after that last one.”
I did give it a chance and it was just boring. I asked for a refund but Netflix said no
I've only ever watched one of these -The Postman which I loved 😂😂😂
Will Smith got an Oscar Nomination for Ali....I had no idea it lost money.
DEI nomination.....
@@alsmith7382 It was a pretty good acting job......not as good as Pursuit of Happiness but....
It didn’t.
@@hawk66100 it says here it did
You could have slapped me silly.
I think one of the problems with movies today is that the company thinks if they put millions and millions of dollars in a movie, it will bring people in to watch. Which is not always the case. Sometimes, it is not how much money you put in the movie, but the quality and the casting of the movie. I have seen many times that low-budget movies make hundreds of millions of dollars simply because it was a good quality movie.
Some were actually quite good, just came out at a bad time, others, mostly Disney, just weren't worth a darn.
Blade Runner 2049 deserved way better.
Man from u.n.c.l.e, King Arthur, Speed racer and Rise of the guardians were flawed but they are underrated decently entertaining movies.
Rise of the guardians lost money!? It was a superb film
A masterpiece!
It should also be noted that it was a fail,at first but later recouped there loses for instance Rise of the Guardians loses were likely overestmated+in only two years DVD sales ALONE made 200 million firmly placing it in the red(not even counting merch sales).
Loved it
I thought it was great.
Odd thing is is a lot of these films are good but toxic news stopped people seeing them or they came out at same time as a huge hit, but some are just really bad
It's kind of weird info. I just watched BoxOffice Joe channel lists Terminator Dark Fate made 262 mil claiming it was a superhit.
I'm really bummed that Sahara didn't do better. There are dozens of Clive Cussler action/adventure novels that would make an excellent series of movies 😢
I heard of every single one but did not see most of them. There's just not an audience for many of these movies so how do the producers think they'll make their money. Also, with so many flops, where's the professional know how? The writers, producers, directors, and actors are supposed know what they're doing. The lay person shouldn't have to point out the errors of their ways.
2:50 The Alamo - Efren Ramirez (Pedro from Napoleon Dynamite) had the option to take part in The Alamo (2004) which had big stars in it. That could be a big break for him. This however would have a conflicting schedule with the then unknown indie film Napoleon Dynamite in where he also got a role. He still chose Napoleon Dynamite and he got let go by his manager because of that choice. Napoleon Dynamite with a budget of only 400k USD, profited more than 100x its original budget (46 million USD)
I seen 34 of these movies in the cinema. Can I have my money back now please?
No...sorry, but you're screwed....
Sahara was a good movie. It stuck to the book.