Logged in (which I rarely do) to say thank you. Took me hours to find what you said in 15 seconds about the drain pipe being level or below the footing. Thank you so much
What would you do if your foundation was poured on hard stone without footer? i have a 1920s poured foundation with no footer and if i were to install the drain tile, itl sit above the slab
If you can get the top of the pipe 4" below top of slab would best, if not top of pipe even with top of slab can work, I believe with care it could be excavated and work out
Great video. Thank you. We have dug a trench to get at a small crack on the foundation wall. We came across that our weep tile had cracked and broke open, and the big open hole is filled with gravels. Our house is about 40 years old. Should we cut out the broken portion and replace it with a new pipe, or just leave it , for we are backfilling with gravels again?
Where does the drain tile take the water? Is there a slope in the yard where the pipe runs out to daylight? Does it go to a leach field, or into a dry well? Or is somehow tied into an interior perimeter drain tile, with a sump pump pit that’ll lift the water up and out through a pipe and hose, and then out onto the lawn?
@@Nicholas_Van_Orten , I’m out in DuPage County; Wheaton to be exact. Code says water from sump pumps or gutters must exit the pipe no less than 10 feet from your property line. Many municipalities don’t want everyone adding more water into the water treatment system or the nearby streams and ponds; so you’re supposed to keep it on your property, letting percolate down through your soil. I’ve seen videos of people digging dry wells to run to. Some dig a deep-ish narrow hole (like for a fence post) and fill it with gravel. The Apple Drain videos are helpful, as are the videos from ADS, the manufacturer of the drainage materials I bought at Lowe’s and Home Depot. Unfortunately, I didn’t learn all of this until several years after completing my project. I saw others in the neighborhood with drainage pipes come very close to the sidewalk, so I assumed it way okay and just copied them. My pipe comes out of the ground about two feet from the sidewalk. I make sure to put down ice melt in the winter as it can make the sidewalk slippery sometimes.
@@mitchrodee Thank you for the respond. I am in DuPage too. Code is same here in Elmhurst. Recently started to get water in my basement and now looking for drain tile options. I will check those videos to see what can I do about it. If you know any good company for drain tile please advise. Thanks again!
Solid pipe does not work with this product. The idea is that the way will flow into the perforated pipe which carries the water away. Solid pipe does not allow water to travel. Also, there are perforated pipes that do not crush so easily, depends on quality of product.
You could use a sock but it won't stop stone from getting plugged and drilled eventually from dirt and sediment. That's main reason for the fabric to keep dirt out of stone and pipe. Capping works as long as you put some holes in it. If it's in a yard sometimes I'll dig a little pit at the end and cover with stone then a lawn mower can go right over it. Hope that helps!
Also, could one put a tee that is going vertical where it comes to surface level and use that for where the gutter can drain to as well? or is that not recommended
Its level until in comes out from foundation, since its under slab level its just like natural ground water flowing through, not the same as a sewer line
@dylenspain-brist8216 yes, because your foundation sub grade for footers ect is always dug level so the drain tile lays right on that level grade around foundation
We are fixing a crack.in wall and was recommened ro.use rock then sand then dirt for filtration. Is this stupid lol wouldnt sand drain into weeping time
Glue it to the walls, don't use anchors. You're compromising the concrete. Never ever use black plastic pipe like that! It will crush eventually. I will only use schedule 40 PVC, holes down!
Have you ever installed it? Those anchors are what come with it and are part of the installation instructions. I doubt those Little anchors could hurt a solid concrete wall. On the drain tile when you put clean stone around and on top of it it makes a form that doesn't settle or push down on the pipe when the dirt goes on top. Now if you just dumped dirt on it yes it could collapse. If either one of these things mentioned was an issue the problem would have showed itself 30 years ago. I've dug up alot foundations for various reasons and never seen the pipe collapse that had clean stone on it. Just my experience. Either way, do what makes you feel comfortable!
@@digginandbuildinwv7012 one should NEVER create any holes in block, brick B walls by attaching dimpled membranes to walls = incompetence. Per POURED walls, if they 'attached' it to--through any rod holes = not good, going to leak. Manufacturer of that black perf-D tile says, "We do not recommend you use our black perf-D tile at depths greater than 1.2 meters (4 ft) as the WEIGHT of backfill could crush this D tile"... so the weight of any backfill, doesn't matter if it's gravel or clay, silt etc.... it is the weight placed on-TOP of the D tile = could crush it , just saying
Logged in (which I rarely do) to say thank you. Took me hours to find what you said in 15 seconds about the drain pipe being level or below the footing. Thank you so much
Putting links to the products used in the video would be helpful. Thanks for vid
www.eljen.com/eljen-gsf/
@@digginandbuildinwv7012 Thank you sir!
How the sewage water from basement can be discharged back to the ground floor thanks?
It is not part of the sewage drain, it is for ground water and rain water that seeps down around foundation, no connection whatsoever to sewer lines
What would you do if your foundation was poured on hard stone without footer? i have a 1920s poured foundation with no footer and if i were to install the drain tile, itl sit above the slab
If you can get the top of the pipe 4" below top of slab would best, if not top of pipe even with top of slab can work, I believe with care it could be excavated and work out
Great video. Thank you. We have dug a trench to get at a small crack on the foundation wall. We came across that our weep tile had cracked and broke open, and the big open hole is filled with gravels. Our house is about 40 years old. Should we cut out the broken portion and replace it with a new pipe, or just leave it , for we are backfilling with gravels again?
I would at least fix the broken section while you have it dug up
Where does the drain tile take the water? Is there a slope in the yard where the pipe runs out to daylight? Does it go to a leach field, or into a dry well? Or is somehow tied into an interior perimeter drain tile, with a sump pump pit that’ll lift the water up and out through a pipe and hose, and then out onto the lawn?
Here in wv and most hilly places you run it out to daylight. Flat land would be different, you'd have to sump pump or something
@@digginandbuildinwv7012 , thanks. I’m in the Chicago suburbs, where we make hills in the playgrounds for sledding in the winter.
@@mitchrodee
How did you end up doing it? I am in Chicago suburbs as well, where they do not allow it to go into the piblic sewage.
@@Nicholas_Van_Orten , I’m out in DuPage County; Wheaton to be exact. Code says water from sump pumps or gutters must exit the pipe no less than 10 feet from your property line. Many municipalities don’t want everyone adding more water into the water treatment system or the nearby streams and ponds; so you’re supposed to keep it on your property, letting percolate down through your soil. I’ve seen videos of people digging dry wells to run to. Some dig a deep-ish narrow hole (like for a fence post) and fill it with gravel. The Apple Drain videos are helpful, as are the videos from ADS, the manufacturer of the drainage materials I bought at Lowe’s and Home Depot.
Unfortunately, I didn’t learn all of this until several years after completing my project. I saw others in the neighborhood with drainage pipes come very close to the sidewalk, so I assumed it way okay and just copied them. My pipe comes out of the ground about two feet from the sidewalk. I make sure to put down ice melt in the winter as it can make the sidewalk slippery sometimes.
@@mitchrodee
Thank you for the respond. I am in DuPage too. Code is same here in Elmhurst. Recently started to get water in my basement and now looking for drain tile options. I will check those videos to see what can I do about it. If you know any good company for drain tile please advise. Thanks again!
Nice clean job. The only thing I would like better is solid pipe. Easier to pitch the whole run correctly and wont crush as easily. Thanks.
Solid pipe does not work with this product. The idea is that the way will flow into the perforated pipe which carries the water away. Solid pipe does not allow water to travel. Also, there are perforated pipes that do not crush so easily, depends on quality of product.
@@michigan_616 he probably meant solid perforated pipe, like what is used in drain fields.
Yes, solid perforated pipe. Sch 40
Do you just cap the ends? And would it be fine to use sock filter fabric instead of the sheets?
You could use a sock but it won't stop stone from getting plugged and drilled eventually from dirt and sediment. That's main reason for the fabric to keep dirt out of stone and pipe. Capping works as long as you put some holes in it. If it's in a yard sometimes I'll dig a little pit at the end and cover with stone then a lawn mower can go right over it. Hope that helps!
Filled
Could you please give us the name of the filter fabric you are using?
It comes from a septic product called Eljen. I think it's called geo cloth
How does the filter cloth not clog?
Supposedly the cross weave in the fiber is to small for dirt to clog, but would always let water through. That's what the designers say.
WV? Anywhere near Harpers Ferry?
Near Romney
do you have 1/4" ft pitch on that so it can properly drain or what do you do for stuff like this?
Also, could one put a tee that is going vertical where it comes to surface level and use that for where the gutter can drain to as well? or is that not recommended
Its level until in comes out from foundation, since its under slab level its just like natural ground water flowing through, not the same as a sewer line
So level all around the foundation till it’s leaving the foundation? Just want to confirm
@dylenspain-brist8216 yes, because your foundation sub grade for footers ect is always dug level so the drain tile lays right on that level grade around foundation
Where will the water go after it gets in the drainage?
We are fixing a crack.in wall and was recommened ro.use rock then sand then dirt for filtration. Is this stupid lol wouldnt sand drain into weeping time
@@StacyRavenFireHawk34 fix and seal crack first, then it should be fine
Thanks so much ❤❤@@digginandbuildinwv7012
what kind of filter fabric is that ?
It's called geo cloth, it comes from the maker of eljen septic products
It's called geo cloth, it comes from the maker of eljen septic products
Looks like good quality work.
@@Hash2009 thank you
Where are the tiles?
Drain tile is a term for pipe.
Thanks buddy👍🏽
Looks like you may want to go back and read the installation instructions again for this product. Appears to be setup for failure
Which product?
I just watched the armtec installation video, it was done according to the directions
Your delta ms is upside down the orange stripe goes up and it is supposed to curl across the footing
Glue it to the walls, don't use anchors. You're compromising the concrete. Never ever use black plastic pipe like that! It will crush eventually. I will only use schedule 40 PVC, holes down!
Have you ever installed it? Those anchors are what come with it and are part of the installation instructions. I doubt those Little anchors could hurt a solid concrete wall. On the drain tile when you put clean stone around and on top of it it makes a form that doesn't settle or push down on the pipe when the dirt goes on top. Now if you just dumped dirt on it yes it could collapse. If either one of these things mentioned was an issue the problem would have showed itself 30 years ago. I've dug up alot foundations for various reasons and never seen the pipe collapse that had clean stone on it. Just my experience. Either way, do what makes you feel comfortable!
Poly wall makes a glue on membrane. I will most likely use on my build now to avoid ramsetting into the foundation
@@digginandbuildinwv7012 one should NEVER create any holes in block, brick B walls by attaching dimpled membranes to walls = incompetence. Per POURED walls, if they 'attached' it to--through any rod holes = not good, going to leak. Manufacturer of that black perf-D tile says, "We do not recommend you use our black perf-D tile at depths greater than 1.2 meters (4 ft) as the WEIGHT of backfill could crush this D tile"... so the weight of any backfill, doesn't matter if it's gravel or clay, silt etc.... it is the weight placed on-TOP of the D tile = could crush it , just saying
Burrito is best
I prefer mel rol
I’m getting paid 19 bucks an hour to pretend like I’m watching videos like this while I’m actually watching memes.
How can I get hired? Lol