So much great stuff here! For quick reference: Tip #1 The chop! 0:41 Tip #2 Group tracks 6:52 Tip #3 Warp Madness 10:33 Tip #4 Edit menu 13:02 Tip #5 Deck stops 16:12 Tip #6 Freq Shifter 19:04 Tip #7 Stems 22:17 Tip #8 Preferences 24:40 Tip #9 Simple Delay 27:33 Tip #10 Extreme Tempo 32:09
I think James is one of the UK's best music producers, he is a fantastic person to talk with, he is a very kind humble man, his heart is there for all up and coming music producers singer songwriters and all musicians. That's why he did F9 Audio. F9 audio is the way to go, its the future of music production, thanks Jameis best regards Robert UK London.
Very original and useful tricks, not the ones shown everywhere. Overall quality is high level (good demo song, good sounds, clean video editing, sound of the voice well balanced ...). Good job thanks !
Absolute 24 carat Ableton knowledge being disseminated right here! And, it's coming direct from a TRUE legend of House music. Thank you, James. Of course I sub'd!
I started messing around with Ableton a good number of years ago however it’s only the past year I’ve started using it as my DAW having gotten fed up with Reason... I can’t believe how much I’ve just learned... I know it’s a new upload, but I’m so glad to have found this :-D Massive thanks !!
Great tips! Thank you very much. I have one as well: you can simply select a region then drag it's title bar while holding the alt/option key to another track; no need to split first using ctrl/cmd+e.
A James Wiltshire masterclass is needed. From start to finish. There are Too many fakes out there. This is the real deal. Tip of the iceberg though. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
great! i use some of your tipps for ages already :-) but some were pretty new. thx for all that fresh techniques. especially the simple delay stereo widening is what i never did before. i always used two copies of the same track and adjusted their pan to achieve a similar effect. with the simple delay its exactly like this: same effect, but very very easy and fast to setup. THX :)
19:31 min . You can also select duplicated audio files , press right click - consolidate ( or select - CTRL + J on Windows or CMD + J on Mac. ) to create one long audio file.
DraganPejicTV Absolutely - although Problem with Consolidate is that is cunningly Normalises the file then drops the clip gain to compensate for the change so I tend to use it sparingly - If they'd just allow us an option to turn off the normalise
There are more implications as well. Just pasting from the manual: "[...] creates new audio files, which are non-neutral in comparison to the original audio data. Specifically, the new files will be normalized, with their clip volumes adjusted to play back at the same volume as heard prior to consolidation. Normalization is a gain change, which is a non-neutral operation. Also, the new files will be created at the sample rate and bit depth set in Live‘s Preferences window, which may differ from those in the original audio files."
@@F9Audio Hi there, this is an old comment but I'd wanted to get back on it and ask: What would be the problem with the consolidated file being normalized and then changed back to the original volume? Especially when thinking about just consolidating little 4-8 bar loops. I've read in some forums, that people could hear artefacts in the consolidated files. I've never, at least consciously had that problem... and I consolidate quite a lot just to merge things, when rearranging audio within Ableton. It's just a quick shortcut within my workflow, as oppose to freeze/flatten. Any feedback is much appreciated :) Cheers!
@@friedrichtrede1735 i doubt there are artefacts audible without full lab anyalsis .. it does though negate an extra step of dsp during playback, even though a simple levelling will hardly use any CPU … personally I find it very handy to have clip gains at zero as I use them a lot for gain structure and being a DB Scale the most useful point is at ODB - Also you can obviously offload a plug-in chain with freeze / flatten and sometimes that allows you to find out you may have overloading in the chain of the resulting audio is visually clipping … you certainly won’t do any damage, but the obsession with Normalising in Ableton’s systems is a bit of mystery
@@F9Audio thanks for the super quick reply! yes, you are right regarding gain structure / gain staging it def more comfortable having clip gains at 0db and start off there. also visually seeing changes in the waveform done by processing is a pro for freeze/flatten. although, i can't change the plugins/processing at any time, which i can when just consolidate. i guess i will think about using freeze/flatten now more often depending on the use case. consolidating makes more sense to me when for example just quickly merging a 4bar kick loop (when using audio, using f.e. a drum rack and midi). big ups to your tutorials & especially the lovely patch packs!
Friend, we use almost the same tips and workflow on Live, so i can just admire and thank u for this awesome video, really usefull, clean, well edited and in addiction, u took very care about potential mistakes and misunderstanding. PERFECT TEACHER, really interested on what he is doin'!
Awesome videos, man. I just recently decided to dive into Live 8 even though I've had it for years. I've been working in Logic for a while and Live is quite different and has been a bit intimidating (hence why I've had it for so long and never learned it) so videos like this are just brilliant. I'm hoping to get fairly proficient in Suite 8 before I decide whether or not to shell out for the $300 upgrade to 9. I'm still working on getting some of the basic functions down so I can't thank you enough for providing so many great tips. PS: I also have to say thanks for your Logic tips. You showed me a lot of cool stuff that I never learned about.
There were some very good tips on this video. I have a compicated issue with Ableton - Melodyne 4. Melodyne can't read Ableton's tempo changes. However Ableton can read Melodyne's exported tempo maps (a MIDI file). Ableton asks Do you want to import signature and tempo? Yes you do. Ableton plays all the session with all the tempo variations and you can add and quantize other instruments. If you want to transfer a track into Melodyne 4, it doesn't follow the grid. There is an import button where you can import the tempo map you are using. But the Melodyne plug-in grid still won't follow. The purpose with an import button must be to get the plug-in grid to follow the session but it doesn't. So Melodyne plug-in can't read it's own files in Ableton. That's a tricky bit to solve and it is still unsolved.
very important tip @ 26:05 ! I remember exactly how annoyed and irritated I was when Live first introduced that fade feature back then... transients just went byebye and I thought: wtf??? what the hell is going on?! ..until I discovered mentioned feature in the settings... I also remember, that the fades are by default not displayed in the clip view. that's as ridiculous as the 'do not display file extensions' default setting in windows. pita.... good you mentioned that, I guess this is still bewildering folks as of now. nice collection of tips btw. ... I just realized that I use chord chops by far too rarely
F9 Audio, first off, I like you video that's the main thing. I think what you're saying is: "ALL DAWs sound far worse when the audio within is warped. Cubase, Logic all of them. Because Live relies so heavily on Warped Audio by design, you are confronted with this compromised sound more often than DAW's where warping is not such a big part of the workflow.' That's much different than saying Ableton's audio engine is inferior to others. Unrelated but interesting...I don't know if you saw the (unscientific not done by SOS Magazine!) Ableton Audio to Midi vs. Melodyne where some kid found in a pretty thorough test Live's did better. Now for all who are going to flame me, I'm just saying it's provocative not the gospel. 2 years ago I played a long electric guitar solo and then performed audio to MIDI. The resulting MIDI had only 1 bum note!
Wtffff I didn't know you could click on a parameter and it would automatically pop up that parameters automation. That's super useful. Should have been obvious but damn. Nice.
At around 4:00 you use the Auto Filter and record it so it goes with the audio file, I was wondering if you could explain how you can record the auto filter?
+Andreas Powell make sure that the automation arm is activated (it is 2nd button on right from the record button) and ableton will record any parameter change you make
Yes - you can do multiple groups at the same time using this method which is really handy for turning a full track or set of say drums into a lesser number of stems - With resample you can only do 1 at a time
f9 studio not so. (if you're referring to Ableton which I assume you are.) Sound on Sound in England measured with double blind listening as well as software measurements Ableton's engine and it had the same fidelity as all other DAWs (regarded as "sounding great.") this was done YEARS AGO.
I remember the article .. However they did so with the warping engine turned off - the moment any kind of warp is applied to audio the sound changes dramatically ( complex pro for example uses technology licensed from Zplane ).
Yes but my comments are about Ableton in Normal session - where Warping is used .. Don't get me wrong i LOVE Ableton and now prefer it day to day than any other DAW , but it has flaws like every system and if you read the thread below I was asked for my opinion on its flaws which i have documented honestly
Does anyone know this? When the arrangement view is full of tracks you can only scroll to the last track. Is there any way to scroll beyond the last track into empty space without having to alt drag the channels?
I'm afraid not directly - 3 work arounds .. 1 - select last track and use key commands to add new tracks ... 2 - Group a load of tracks that are just simply routed to master together and twirl the pack up using the folder arrow ... that should give you loads more space ... 3 - I believe if you tab round to session view you still get room to add more tracks but dont quote me on that one
+Symmetrical Sounds Yes Asbolutely - some people are not as advanced as you on ableton and the routing in Live is like nothing else out - getting the hang of sending a group of tracks to another is vital within a powerful workflow - I want the F9 channel to be inclusive and not just exclusive for people that have been on Live for years - Do let me know if there's anything you'd like to see
I can't stand that intro commercial. "Trying to learn audio production online is a waste of your time!" Says the dude who's voice is clipping so bad it's actually painful to listen to.
Holy Shit - that's the worst RUclips add ever created - who on earth would want to go to use production school who cant engineer a basic ad voice over - I will remove ads immedieatly from it - To be honest I thought We had !
@@F9Audio Oh its cool bro! You dont have to remove the ads man. Make that $$$ .......That dude is spammed all over the place. LOL :::::Great video tho. Thanks.
We pulled adverts on all videos last year Theo .. As we're building up the numbers were only generating something like $89 in 3 years so we'd much rather everyone have a better experience ... The one that used to get me was that Dude in a garage with an obviously rented Lambo going ' Just bought this lambourghini ... Click here so i can sell you a load of marketing crap that's basically a clickbait Ponzi scheme ' .. In 2000 years someone will discover and dust off a load of RUclips servers and wonder what the frig we were actually doing back here
Pound for pound, the most concentrated useful set of tips on YT. James is brilliant.
Thank you for moving quickly and not treating us users as if were all beginners. This the most information I have ever got in 30 minutes.
So much great stuff here!
For quick reference:
Tip #1 The chop! 0:41
Tip #2 Group tracks 6:52
Tip #3 Warp Madness 10:33
Tip #4 Edit menu 13:02
Tip #5 Deck stops 16:12
Tip #6 Freq Shifter 19:04
Tip #7 Stems 22:17
Tip #8 Preferences 24:40
Tip #9 Simple Delay 27:33
Tip #10 Extreme Tempo 32:09
+Sugar Puppies Thanks for doing this - added to the Video description !
+F9 Audio You're very welcome - thank YOU for sharing these tips! Looking forward to more videos on this channel.
I think James is one of the UK's best music producers, he is a fantastic person to talk with, he is a very kind humble man, his heart is there for all up and coming music producers singer songwriters and all musicians. That's why he did F9 Audio. F9 audio is the way to go, its the future of music production, thanks Jameis best regards Robert UK London.
It's stupid how ridiculously useful every minute of this video is.... damn. I'mma keep coming back til I have every tip mastered
I really enjoyed these tips and will be using them in my future productions....
Never heard of F9 Audio until today and they're quickly becoming my favorite Ableton tutorials on youtube.
Sampled track at 12:30 is Al Green - I'm glad you're mine ;)
Dj Ros Nic one ros - send me a line at info@f9-audio.com and I'll sort you a gift out
J
This has been the best tutorial I've ever seen. I have never lasted 36:27m:s 100%entertained on a single clip. Thank you, F9!
Very original and useful tricks, not the ones shown everywhere. Overall quality is high level (good demo song, good sounds, clean video editing, sound of the voice well balanced ...). Good job thanks !
Insane amount of Valuable info here..i just jumped into the Ableton pool about a month ago..these tips are EVerything!! much appreciated
Absolute 24 carat Ableton knowledge being disseminated right here!
And, it's coming direct from a TRUE legend of House music.
Thank you, James. Of course I sub'd!
This is well handy for my point blank course sir. Thanks 🤘
I can't believe how much information you've put into this single video and how well it was produced/edited. Thanks !
I could watch your videos all day in fact I do :)
Your Videos are some of favourite Ableton stuff on on you tube. Please make more!!!!!
James you are a great tutor, some great tips to be had here!
I started messing around with Ableton a good number of years ago however it’s only the past year I’ve started using it as my DAW having gotten fed up with Reason...
I can’t believe how much I’ve just learned... I know it’s a new upload, but I’m so glad to have found this :-D
Massive thanks !!
EXCELLENT TIPS!
Really enjoyed this so thanks.
Cant wait to watch more of your Ableton tutorials.
One of the best tips tutorials I've seen and I've seen thousands, excellent
Quality demo of Live DAW. Great instruction.
Absolute fire kickin ass tutorial, was worried about the thumbs disabled but its actually one of the best tutorial I've ever seen
Thumbs Now fully re-enabled - no idea what happened Google turned them off ! .. odd - when that happens
F9 Audio The I'll leave one for sure ;)
This is one of the best Ableton tutorials i've ever seen
Yeah it's really good so I agree.
Great tips! Thank you very much. I have one as well: you can simply select a region then drag it's title bar while holding the alt/option key to another track; no need to split first using ctrl/cmd+e.
One of the best Ableton Tuts. !
Yes
So clever. Thanks as always James. So many clever techniques 👌👌
Thanks James Awesome
we want more tips for Ableton 12 😋
A James Wiltshire masterclass is needed. From start to finish. There are Too many fakes out there. This is the real deal. Tip of the iceberg though.
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
great! i use some of your tipps for ages already :-) but some were pretty new. thx for all that fresh techniques. especially the simple delay stereo widening is what i never did before. i always used two copies of the same track and adjusted their pan to achieve a similar effect. with the simple delay its exactly like this: same effect, but very very easy and fast to setup. THX :)
Great job, as always. I've watched a lot of your tutorials and the knowledge you pass on it invaluable.
Thanks for this, great tips for even the beginner to Albleton like me.
19:31 min . You can also select duplicated audio files , press right click - consolidate ( or select - CTRL + J on Windows or CMD + J on Mac. ) to create one long audio file.
DraganPejicTV Absolutely - although Problem with Consolidate is that is cunningly Normalises the file then drops the clip gain to compensate for the change so I tend to use it sparingly - If they'd just allow us an option to turn off the normalise
There are more implications as well. Just pasting from the manual: "[...] creates new audio files, which are non-neutral in comparison to the original audio data. Specifically, the new files will be normalized, with their clip volumes adjusted to play back at the same volume as heard prior to consolidation. Normalization is a gain change, which is a non-neutral operation. Also, the new files will be created at the sample rate and bit depth set in Live‘s Preferences window, which may differ from those in the original audio files."
@@F9Audio Hi there, this is an old comment but I'd wanted to get back on it and ask: What would be the problem with the consolidated file being normalized and then changed back to the original volume? Especially when thinking about just consolidating little 4-8 bar loops. I've read in some forums, that people could hear artefacts in the consolidated files. I've never, at least consciously had that problem... and I consolidate quite a lot just to merge things, when rearranging audio within Ableton. It's just a quick shortcut within my workflow, as oppose to freeze/flatten. Any feedback is much appreciated :) Cheers!
@@friedrichtrede1735 i doubt there are artefacts audible without full lab anyalsis .. it does though negate an extra step of dsp during playback, even though a simple levelling will hardly use any CPU … personally I find it very handy to have clip gains at zero as I use them a lot for gain structure and being a DB Scale the most useful point is at ODB - Also you can obviously offload a plug-in chain with freeze / flatten and sometimes that allows you to find out you may have overloading in the chain of the resulting audio is visually clipping … you certainly won’t do any damage, but the obsession with Normalising in Ableton’s systems is a bit of mystery
@@F9Audio thanks for the super quick reply! yes, you are right regarding gain structure / gain staging it def more comfortable having clip gains at 0db and start off there. also visually seeing changes in the waveform done by processing is a pro for freeze/flatten. although, i can't change the plugins/processing at any time, which i can when just consolidate. i guess i will think about using freeze/flatten now more often depending on the use case. consolidating makes more sense to me when for example just quickly merging a 4bar kick loop (when using audio, using f.e. a drum rack and midi). big ups to your tutorials & especially the lovely patch packs!
Friend, we use almost the same tips and workflow on Live, so i can just admire and thank u for this awesome video, really usefull, clean, well edited and in addiction, u took very care about potential mistakes and misunderstanding. PERFECT TEACHER, really interested on what he is doin'!
Incredible information... Thank you so much James!
Loving you work guys. Any new stuff in the future? Would be crackling!
One of the best tutorials for making tracks!!! Ty alot!!
Greatest abelton tips on YT!!!!!!!! this helped so much, thanks for the knowledge bruh
Another great set of tips!
super step up explanation and very usefull tips thanx a lot
i didnt know about the max min tempo change settings ...Thanks!
Great Tips Thanks.
These tips are incredible.. Thank's
this video is insane !!! thanks James
Abolutely tip top. No need to scroll thru video to pick the bits i need. All of video relevant and v v v v v v helpful. Ta very much.....:-)
Thank you Sir ! - where have you been , everyone’s been looking for you ! ..
Great tutorial -cheers!
in the line with all other comments here - extremely useful and well done! Thank you! Keep'em coming! Subscribed
love the tutorials, very informative
Thsi was fantastic! Learned alot of new stuff and I will definitely use this in my future productions :)
thanks james great info
Very good video.
Thanks for the help.Great Channel!
Bloody awesome 👍🙏🖖
Great tips and tutorial! Subbed!🤙
Awesome videos, man. I just recently decided to dive into Live 8 even though I've had it for years. I've been working in Logic for a while and Live is quite different and has been a bit intimidating (hence why I've had it for so long and never learned it) so videos like this are just brilliant.
I'm hoping to get fairly proficient in Suite 8 before I decide whether or not to shell out for the $300 upgrade to 9. I'm still working on getting some of the basic functions down so I can't thank you enough for providing so many great tips.
PS: I also have to say thanks for your Logic tips. You showed me a lot of cool stuff that I never learned about.
There were some very good tips on this video. I have a compicated issue with Ableton - Melodyne 4. Melodyne can't read Ableton's tempo changes. However Ableton can read Melodyne's exported tempo maps (a MIDI file). Ableton asks Do you want to import signature and tempo? Yes you do. Ableton plays all the session with all the tempo variations and you can add and quantize other instruments.
If you want to transfer a track into Melodyne 4, it doesn't follow the grid. There is an import button where you can import the tempo map you are using. But the Melodyne plug-in grid still won't follow. The purpose with an import button must be to get the plug-in grid to follow the session but it doesn't. So Melodyne plug-in can't read it's own files in Ableton. That's a tricky bit to solve and it is still unsolved.
Very useful tips, good job :)
great tips, thanks James! I was fan of the Freemasons since heard your remix on "just can't get enough" for the first time;)
Cracking informative video. Thank You. :-) would be good to be able to get the project files to recreate and learn from it.
Very useful stuff
Crazy nice tips, THX!! :)
holy crap whoa lots good ideas here!!!!
Great video.
Good video man!
truly georgeous!!
dope stuff bro, notification squad
Great stuff!
great video.
very important tip @ 26:05 ! I remember exactly how annoyed and irritated I was when Live first introduced that fade feature back then... transients just went byebye and I thought: wtf??? what the hell is going on?! ..until I discovered mentioned feature in the settings... I also remember, that the fades are by default not displayed in the clip view. that's as ridiculous as the 'do not display file extensions' default setting in windows. pita.... good you mentioned that, I guess this is still bewildering folks as of now.
nice collection of tips btw. ... I just realized that I use chord chops by far too rarely
great tips!!
the more i watch this the more i like it and take fro it.
Great Thanx !!
F9 Audio, first off, I like you video that's the main thing. I think what you're saying is: "ALL DAWs sound far worse when the audio within is warped. Cubase, Logic all of them. Because Live relies so heavily on Warped Audio by design, you are confronted with this compromised sound more often than DAW's where warping is not such a big part of the workflow.' That's much different than saying Ableton's audio engine is inferior to others.
Unrelated but interesting...I don't know if you saw the (unscientific not done by SOS Magazine!) Ableton Audio to Midi vs. Melodyne where some kid found in a pretty thorough test Live's did better. Now for all who are going to flame me, I'm just saying it's provocative not the gospel. 2 years ago I played a long electric guitar solo and then performed audio to MIDI. The resulting MIDI had only 1 bum note!
Absolutely Brilliant!! Terrific tips! Thanks for creating this and sharing. #iSubbed
Thumbs up!
Wtffff I didn't know you could click on a parameter and it would automatically pop up that parameters automation. That's super useful. Should have been obvious but damn. Nice.
Subbed
At around 4:00 you use the Auto Filter and record it so it goes with the audio file, I was wondering if you could explain how you can record the auto filter?
+Andreas Powell make sure that the automation arm is activated (it is 2nd button on right from the record button) and ableton will record any parameter change you make
Why don't you simply Record a selected group via Solo and Resampling in Point 2 ? Is there any difference?
Yes - you can do multiple groups at the same time using this method which is really handy for turning a full track or set of say drums into a lesser number of stems - With resample you can only do 1 at a time
f9 studio not so. (if you're referring to Ableton which I assume you are.) Sound on Sound in England measured with double blind listening as well as software measurements Ableton's engine and it had the same fidelity as all other DAWs (regarded as "sounding great.") this was done YEARS AGO.
I remember the article .. However they did so with the warping engine turned off - the moment any kind of warp is applied to audio the sound changes dramatically ( complex pro for example uses technology licensed from Zplane ).
They did so with all the DAWs.
Yes but my comments are about Ableton in Normal session - where Warping is used .. Don't get me wrong i LOVE Ableton and now prefer it day to day than any other DAW , but it has flaws like every system and if you read the thread below I was asked for my opinion on its flaws which i have documented honestly
Where is that I can't find it.
Fookin Luv It!!! Subbber Now!!
Cheers James, some great little tips there.
F(n)ine Top Tips!
I read the comments below and someone got it right with Al Green... I was Miles Off.. Gary Numan - Cars lol.. Back to the drawing board..
Brilliant !! .. Nice one Kev
@F9 Audio: What is the name of the song in chapter parts like 6:52?
@F9 Audio: Please tell me where I could listen the full track of the parts like 6:52 in between subjects
@F9 Audio: Thanks for the reaction. But how is the song called?
Pink Floyd comfortably numb for warp madness?
Al Green: "Glad You're Mine"
Does anyone know this? When the arrangement view is full of tracks you can only scroll to the last track. Is there any way to scroll beyond the last track into empty space without having to alt drag the channels?
I'm afraid not directly - 3 work arounds .. 1 - select last track and use key commands to add new tracks ... 2 - Group a load of tracks that are just simply routed to master together and twirl the pack up using the folder arrow ... that should give you loads more space ... 3 - I believe if you tab round to session view you still get room to add more tracks but dont quote me on that one
F9 Audio
Thanks, an annoying little hiccup in a great program.
i liked this video, but with regard to slicing the chords and assigning each to 1 key; why not simply play 4 chords on your keyboard controller?
some people can't play the keyboard
is the bassline supposed to sound like a forest by the cure because it sounds like a forest by the cure
House God
Paul Rogers find what?
So one tip is just to explain bussing?
+Symmetrical Sounds Yes Asbolutely - some people are not as advanced as you on ableton and the routing in Live is like nothing else out - getting the hang of sending a group of tracks to another is vital within a powerful workflow - I want the F9 channel to be inclusive and not just exclusive for people that have been on Live for years - Do let me know if there's anything you'd like to see
:)
is this the guy of freemasons
Yes !
I can't stand that intro commercial. "Trying to learn audio production online is a waste of your time!" Says the dude who's voice is clipping so bad it's actually painful to listen to.
Holy Shit - that's the worst RUclips add ever created - who on earth would want to go to use production school who cant engineer a basic ad voice over - I will remove ads immedieatly from it - To be honest I thought We had !
@@F9Audio Oh its cool bro! You dont have to remove the ads man. Make that $$$ .......That dude is spammed all over the place. LOL :::::Great video tho. Thanks.
We pulled adverts on all videos last year Theo .. As we're building up the numbers were only generating something like $89 in 3 years so we'd much rather everyone have a better experience ... The one that used to get me was that Dude in a garage with an obviously rented Lambo going ' Just bought this lambourghini ... Click here so i can sell you a load of marketing crap that's basically a clickbait Ponzi scheme ' .. In 2000 years someone will discover and dust off a load of RUclips servers and wonder what the frig we were actually doing back here
Hi James, which Jupiter patch did you use from the retro pack to layer with the redwood piano?
Would love to know the instrument and midi notes for the original piano chords track if possible :)
Email us info@f9-audio.com - it may be lost in the mists of time but should be able to work out again !
Cheers ! Ive emailed you guys :)
whao so much good info in such a short time, and I have been using ableton for a while, thanks a lot
Pure gold My man!
Just awesome!