If you're looking for the report link, I removed it from here just so Mojang doesn't get spammed. If you still want to report the server, just Google for the report form. Make sure to be specific when filling it out!
the fact they're so on the ball with checking plots of new players, shutting down and rollbacks, i think this is the first time ive seen a p2w server being operated like an actual buisness instead of some people just scamming. Not to say they're not scamming, they clearly are but its strange (to me at least) to see it so co-ordinated
every "p2w" server is operated as a business, but some just don't invest enough in administration and security, thinking that would save costs so they get more profits. This server like many other p2w servers is scummy in many ways like the fact that they hold a permanent 90% off sale to make people think they get a great deal off stuff, making that 90% off the official price in fact and they also likely do a lot of resets (kind of a season type deal) as their economy is gonna always be extremely inflated and people are going to leave after they get bored of it
They literally have illegal business practices in multiple ways, of course with those prices they will take care to keep it running for as long as possible. It IS a scam business and they will do whatever it takes to keep it on
Imagine being a parent and having your kid come up and say "Hey, can I have 8 dollars? It's for a set of items on this Minecraft server." Also the fake sale thing isn't just a deceptive business practice, it's actually *illegal* in some parts of the world
@@johnroach9026 You're right about Canada, but to go around the law, all they have is have it at full price for x number of days and on sale for the rest. Canadian Tire does this with a lot of stuff.
and so does in the entire EU. In fact, im pretty sure you can even do a Robinhood level stunt by buying things from the shop and imedieatly charging back for the reason of deceptive advertisement.
Also illegal in the USA. § 233.1). The FTC considers it deceptive to offer an item for sale at a higher price for a short period of time in order to support a claim that an item is discounted when the price is then lowered. This practice is prohibited. Several companies have already been taken to court for this, you can report fraud to the FTC.
They honestly should have learnt the lesson Bethesda did, they pulled the exact same trick and got called out on it. Sadly, they were never taken to court
@@burkino7046 technically its not illegal, if you watch the countdown it actually goes to full price, its for a split second, they did that to get around any laws pertaining in that and Mojang EULA as well
Its not just deceptive what the server shop did, its actually illegal in certain countries. EDIT: Due to all the new information circulated in the comments, I think it would be best to say it is most certainly illegal in the country the server is listed in and basically every free country in the world. Wow.
Its illegal in the united states underneath Section 5 of the FTC Act due to the deceptive prices. and it may be considered fraud on top of it. both I believe are felonies here in the states
I know I'm a bit late to the party but I managed to crash an entire server with kelp. It was a money earning server where much like this you could get money to buy upgrades and other cool things through selling resources. I figured out that I could buy with my starter money just enough to forward a large plot of land, a shit ton of glass, two water buckets, and 10 kelp as well as the sand to grow it on. I then proceeded to sell the raw kelp to get enough to get some cobblestone and make myself a furnace as well as get enough coal and wood to make a crafting table and expand my processing. After about 3 days of people looking at my process and laughing at it because of how slow I was earning money compared to everybody else. People stop paying attention to me and I use that opportunity to keep expanding. I bought three other plots around me and connected them together to make a large tank I then used a plant booster beacon to increase their growth speed. What people didn't realize is the kelp when dried can be turned into kelp blocks. My one in-game currency could sell for seven when made into a kelp block. The funny thing about kelp blocks is they can be used for fuel as well. Thus eliminating The need for wood or coal. I also set up a collection system that would compile all of the kelp together and feed it into a massive auto smelter that would siphon off some of the dried kelp into an autocrafter that would turn it into kelp blocks and then would send those via rail all the way back up to refeed the system count blocks and any excess or dropped off into the chest. With the kelp growing at really good speed, each stock being able to bring 75ish kelp per minute. I had effectively made a infinite money generator that id just have to clear out once and a while. No one realized what was going on until I was selling thousands of blocks at a time making thousands of dollars in minutes using it to expand outwards and increase my automation. I added smokers in the next update and the system got even faster going up to about $30,000 every 15 minutes worth of profit. I then bought an auto seller that would automatically sell the items for me so I literally had to do nothing. While I sat back and let it work other people began to see what I was doing and very rapidly started changing over to a kelp base economy XD everyone was selling off their old supplies to the market and starting kelp farms by using my publicly visitable one as a reference. Some even hiring me to make them smaller versions. Between the startup cost of my kelp farm, the efficiency, the infinite fuel for other projects, and the mass of the amount of income. I manage to single-handedly crush them. It was then that they dropped the price of a kelp block from 7 to 1 But people were generating it so fast and mine had gotten so big that even that wasn't enough and they couldn't put a value less than one in their programming. Other people began to swap over that we're holding out up until that point and it ultimately resulted in me getting removed from there for supposed exploiting despite me having played by their exact rules and their exact market. They got so angry that I ruin their economy with kelp that they ultimately ended up shutting it down after everyone demanded I come back on because I didn't violate the rules and everyone either got banned or left this pay to win server. They tried to start up a new one and I joined under an alias and did the same exact thing but this time I didn't make it out of glass and instead made out of obsidian with a pretty good looking iron golem farm on the outside to make it look like it was just a mob Grinder And iron golem farm. Little did they know it was like kelp farm in disguise underneath and they removed me again once I got over a million currency. They got so mad that they started messaging me privately asking me to stop but due to their false ban rather than them just talking to me first then asking me to chill out. I refused. Then they banned kelp entirely in their next one. The problem is bamboo has the same exact qualities but doesn't require water which makes it even cheaper to work and I did the same exact thing. They IP banned me XD
Yeah it's sad. The unfortunate truth is, that it works. I ran a midsize server for a while, before I eventually sold it. I ran a very ethical donating system, with almost zero items of power, purchasable through donation. The crate keys therefore were relatively stale, as with the ranks. Few players donate to support the server, but even those that do, will donate once or twice at most, and server costs are relentless. It's possible to run an ethical server and make it large, but you either have to have a heavily modified server, to allow of lots of custometic rewards, which isn't in everyones taste. At the end of the day, I was profitable, but considering the time invested, it was a terrible business endavour. I ended up selling it.
@@GBEWgw2 lol what. Who's gonna host it? Most people use a third party host to not have to have your own running, or take the cost of running your own server rack. Of course, if you have your own server rack / pc that's running 24/7, electricity will add up.
@@Vitoleuu No, there's a reason "op prison" servers go that high, because when flying and mining a lot you kinda really do need that high efficiency. Source: I actually like to play OP Prison servers, but not this server since it's more PVP then OP Prison.
The US too, it'd be considered false or misleading prices under FTC guidelines. Someone else commented they played on the server and the "sale" had been going on for 4 years straight. That definitely qualifies.
@@The_Horizon you dont even know the half of it, idk if u know the story of their old dev GMX but he was a pedophile and would make kids send feet pics and nudes for unbans and unmutes
This would be so much more fun and effective if you guys would stay low and distribute over time to have a lasting impact that cant be fixed with a rollback
@@ThePenisMan You can check only as much as you can. If they would pretend to play over time and just dupe slowly giving people bits and bobs. Over time they would have succeded.
@@HidekiShinichi this is literally only one server. Taking this one server down won’t solve the problem. Nobody has enough time for such little payoff. This one server is just a pawn. That’s infinitely less effective than what they’re doing here and probably wouldn’t work anyways; just spam report them using your audience
Even tho they acted very fast, it’s still a win if they shutdown the server for 2 hours. That makes players go to another servers and new players to just leave. The time i duped on plateou it was exactly the same. The owner shutdown the server for 10 hours and he did a 7-hour rollback
Don't wanna be a doomer but I do think the effect of this is very temporary, it likely affects people who wouldn't have bought a rank more than those who already did or will spend money on the server.
@@StagTwo i don't think the horizon will come back at least for a while. People (including me) have messaged him with dupes on server and he doesn't reply even tho he reads the messages
If there were a legal paid industry to mess up p2w servers, and they could be hired to specific servers, the entire supply chain of players can be cut off, leaving only the veterans in a state of decay, unable to show off their expensive things.
Actually, servers that are on a version prior to 1.19 can not be banned by Mojang, because they can use what is known as an SRV Rotator to get around the blacklist, even if Mojang blacklists the server. Many big servers have actually already been blacklisted by Mojang, but continue to operate nonetheless. I think this may have been patched in version 1.19, but I'm not sure. There may be a new work-around as well, and many servers still operate on version 1.12 or even 1.8 as well, in which case the patch will not apply. In addition, many servers these days are beginning to use plugins that automatically, "scan," through each player's inventory every few seconds, and if a suspicious quantity of expensive items is detected, it can notify staff. Some of the plugins are very advanced, and can rollback _only_ the duped items. Some plugins even scan chests that players interact with, and mark the coordinates of any chest with a suspicious quantity of items. Do with that information what you will, I used to be a developer for a large P2W server.
@Too Few Secrets Depends on who is hosting it, and where. I don't think there is a lot of recourse mojang has, to shut down the physical server at least. Some hosts are also located in countries such as Russia.
@Alex MacKelly It completely depends on the server, as each server often has different methods for preventing such exploits. Some are worse than others. Some are ran like businesses and are very hard to crack. Some are practically impossible. A few guidelines would be: use unknown accounts (accs that have never been in a video), use non-public exploits, play on the server legitimately for a while before duping, dupe over the course of days and distribute items across multiple accounts. Have lots of small dupe stashes instead of a few (or only one) big one. These are some things you could do to circumvent the inventory/chest scanning, as well as avoiding being checked just for being a new player. Some servers use even more sophisticated plugins which track items across multiple players back to their source -- much like how a government tax agency might track everyone's transactions IRL -- in which case it's not possible to hide a large dupe stash, unless you have many accounts, many vpns, and do very slowly
I duped on this server aswell, it’s on my channel. This server has been faking their player count and has so many ads online advertising different servers, all going to the same host. Gotta report these fools
Mojang is nothing but a husk of the company Notch built. The people who remain there are lazy cowards who would not stand up to Microsoft's bullshit, and as such they are worthy of precisely no respect.
Something I want to note about the high efficiency on the pickaxe, I wouldn't be surprised if they have custom blocks that take much longer to break. Prison servers are basically clicker games, and you gotto keep scaling those infinitely
The patch to disable trades was likely so they can get the server back up quick as they can and then deal with it later. The fact the staff were competent enough to immediately get the server shut down to deal with it, means the admins KNEW of these practices and an admin or multiple admins trained their staff to react accordingly. Sounds like something we do when it comes to cheaters and xrayers on the server. Have plans of action, etc. however I dont endorse servers that literally are P2W. Especially ones that fake their sales.. TF is that garbage... As for the response to possibly rollback. TBH if they were smart enough, they could of tracked their "MVP" items and had a plugin wipe unusually created items. When we did things like custom wayshrines, crates, etc We made them all uniquely tagged. So if there was more than 1 of ANY kind of them, they were immediately detected. However only did this out of protection from breaking the economy from people that like to grief on any kind of server including ones that didnt even have a store like ours xD
I’ve been watching for ages, I am really excited to see how you ratio another server. You’re doing gods work because not only is it lying to consumers and breaking Minecraft’s TOS, there are hundreds of kids and their parents being ripped off and literally feeding these servers. The exploitation is disgusting and just sad
You guys opened my eyes to exactly how P2W EVERYTHING has gotten. I'd been on many servers that I didn't think were P2W simply because when the EULA first changed, the server I was admin on just classified everything as a technicality "well technically they could earn this, it'll just take forever" and at first that was my mindset when planning my own server, but realizing how sleezey that was I completely deleted Rank packages and crates from my plans going forward and have forsaken the idea that "they can earn it eventually". now all packages moving forward are planned to be global. if one player makes a donation, EVERYONE gets the reward. If one player decides to be a whale, everyone else will love them for it
lmao Sal thanks for doing this, i’m actually a former player of purple prison and this server is HELLA pay to win, this brings tears and joy to my eyes, thanks for everything you have done to stop servers like this.
Anti-rollback idea: find a player that's been on a while, and after duping, give them the items. Have them hide them on their plot for enhanced effect, and wait. Maybe even play the server normally for a bit and build something on the plot a normal player would. The staff will probably always be suspicious, but less. Once enough time passes, whenever there's a lapse in staff online, you can trickle duped items from the long-term player's plot into the economy, slowly (or quickly with the right items) damage the economy through stash distribution
Hey, I have an idea that might work for permanently destroying a P2W server's economy. It would take much longer than normal, but it would be almost impossible to fix. First, you would dupe all your stuff like normal. However, instead of just dumping everything at once, you begin to sell the stuff like normal. Maybe distribute the items to some alt accounts and have THEM sell the items, too, if the server lists the name of the seller so that it doesn't look too suspicious. At first, sell the items at a normal/slightly cheaper price. People buy them like normal. Over time, start lowering the price of the items. This will artificially deflate the value of the items, but it will look at least somewhat-natural, so the admins won't notice it at first. After some time, stop lowering the prices of that item. This will be where you leave the price for a while. Next, start dumping all of your duped items. This will signal the admins that there has been duping going on, and they will rush to fix things. Make sure to draw their attention to the deflated prices of the items that you caused (edit: You could probably draw their attention to this by selling the duped items for $1 or whatever the lowest possible price of the items are, alongside other of the items priced at the "normal" deflated valve. This should make them think that the new "normal" deflated price are also duped items, and thus they will remove the "normal" priced items too). This will make them do damage control and artificially *INFLATE* the price of the item. Once they've done this, people who had previously bought the items will suddenly have tons of items that they bought cheap, and can now sell for a huge profit. The admins would have two choices to fix this: 1. Track down every single sale that was part of the deflation campaign, and remove any of the deflated items and remove whatever money the buyer may have made on reselling the items. 2. Rollback weeks upon weeks of work to a point before the items started being deflated. The first option is borderline impossible, especially on a bigger server or a server with less documentation on player trades. Effectively, the second option would be their only choice. This would DESTROY their playerbase, as people would have countless hours of time and effort erased, for what would be perceived as a single duping event that should only have caused a few hours of rollback. The best part about this is that unless the admins go full Communist and force players to trade at a set price, they will have almost no ability to stop what is happening before the damage is done, as the only way to notice the damage before the final step of the plan would be to actively watch the market/auction house, and keep track of the price of every single item sold. And, even IF they did that, reducing the price decreases and spreading the campaign over a longer period would be enough to pass under their noses.
Do you think they wouldn't just have a hard floor on how cheap items can be sold? I don't play on servers so I actually don't know, but I can imagine it being a thing to ruin any chances of bypassing p2w. Or dupers Honestly I think if you could somehow get this to Sal or any of the others that do this kind of content, you should try. I'm paranoid someone working in one of those servers might see and go the price logging route. Again, I have no idea how realistic it is for them to track all of them, but only having so many alts and having that kind of active monitoring could shut it down early Then again, if enough people were in on it, like a decent amount who could spend those weeks...
I only see one issue - time. The more time you spend holding onto duped items, the more likely you'll get found, caught and banned over time. Even if the stash is hidden or split up into smaller segments, moderation teams might end up cottoning on and destroying them anyway - and at that point they'll be on the lookout for duplication methods. All it takes is one curious moderator at the wrong time.
@@normalclown yeah that sorta came to me as well, if they're checking stashes, then where is this stash that doesn't get found? Maybe it'd be a much larger amount of people holding to make it seem natural but by that point inflation would probably adjust as if they got those legitimately Christ I hate p2w
@@normalclown reminds me of the holocaust, instead of Jews being tracked down by the SS it's duped items being searched for in stashes every night by the staff team. Literally 1984, I also don't see how the server is still up with an average of 1k players at all times while breaking the commercial use guidelines
As I understand it that kind of fake sale is actually illegal in some jurisdictions. A quick Google search indicates it might violate ftc guidelines. It's a bit boring but instead of duping or reporting to Mojang figuring out how to contact authorities and lawmakers could do serious damage to some Minecraft servers.
Honestly this makes me so happy. I ran a server for a year where i had a solid 10 people playing. My whole goal was no pay to win. After months of working on it I started hiring staff and quickly 5ey demanded modes Like kitsPvP. I added it for them and left that shit “under construction”. After a year of having it up, with constant staff issues and low funds I had to close her up. My bungee cord server was closed with me reaching my beginning goal of no pay to win. Instead, i had just lobby pets and perks for lobby and non competitive or pvp zones. Keep this shit up, many more people would have gotten into MC had servers not been flooded with these pay to win scams. You can tell right away if the owners actually care for his players or just numbers. 😂
If they check the plots of new players all the time, couldn’t you just make an account, join the server, come back a while later and then get a dupe stash so that your account has a lot of play time?
But that's a different type of red flag, a sleeper account reactivating with complete knowledge of the server mechanics, its a red flag similar to the ones found in advanced discord server raids, alts slowly join a server and when done all reactivate to spam.
I think the server might have a plug-in or background process that checks how many crates are sold vs how many crates are opened. If there are more crates opened than the number of crates sold, it could indicate that someone is duping crates and the admins will be notified. That's why the admins of this P2W server could act that fast. Next time you may try the good old method of waiting for a while before distributing, or just dupe something other than shop-exclusive items. P2W servers might be lazy in creating a good environment, but they always care about their money 😐
No, when I duped on here, they had very active staff monitoring logs and stuff once they saw how many glitched items we put out. You can see the video on my channel
Was a Head admin for a Modded server network, we had kits but nothing insane on my server. However they milked the Pixelmon server, I heard we had players pay thousands for crate keys. We also had a notorious rich kid who alone spent upto 30k at the time I had left. If you had no morals, you can live comfortably doing this.
@@Jin-1337 we had "legendary" crate keys which was the only way to get Shiny legendary pokemon. The odds were insanely low. On top of that the legend pool would rotate, meaning you could open a crate at the reset and get a different pool of pokemon. Likely "wasting" your key. This key was 100$
When I was in my Pixelmon craze, the biggest thing was really just voting for servers for rewards, which was a level of quid pro quo I was comfortable with
When I was 14, I was playing on a prison server, and played for several months. When I turned 15 I got a job washing dishes for $35 per night (about 5$ per hour) on the weekends. I saved up some money, and bought the highest rank on that server for $200, and a month or so later, the server shut down in an exit scam. Honestly upset me as I worked 3 weekends and it was a complete waste of my money. Being almost 25 now, Seeing these videos provides me a little bit of satisfaction, as even thought it may not shut the servers down, it hurts the income of the predatory owners, and might prevent a young teen from wasting hard earned money on these scams. Keep doing what you do Sal, for the good of the community.
Right off the bat, the most damage reduction you can get is 80% from protection enchants so having such high protection enchants is just a scam lol. Same with efficiency.
Oh btw, I'm not sure if it's a thing or not in basegame, but in modded you can bypass enchant limits without any issues. Some "overloaded" enchantments don't do anything, like you say, but some actually provide stacking bonuses, either linearly or logarithmically declining (as in diminsing returns, at higher levels 1 level of enchant is worth less than at lower levels) and I'm pretty sure it's done without modifying the enchant code itself. There's a spreadsheet about it specifically in relation to MCE modpack, though I don't have the direct link at this moment.
sal you have to introduce them slowly because if you do that they can't really roll it back without players leaving. ideally over the course of a month you'd be doing it. It would also be very hard to figure out who's doing it if you just dropped them infrequently. you duped enough where in your inventories alone it would be enough to destroy the server, so just get rid of the plots and they'd have no idea
Thank you so much for trolling on Purple Prison. I search for "Minecraft mmorpg server" once every while to find a wynncraft alternative. This server will always show up, although it is just not an mmorpg, not even an rpg to begin with. I honestly dont see why people play on this server lol. Thank you so much!
Your doing gods work my friend, get these fools off the market. AND THIS IS TO GO, EVEN FURTHER BEYOND! While this time you were unsuccessful, the next time won't be the same.
I useto be one of the nerds who loved playing on this server and useto defend it with my life whenver anyone said the server was p2w, it gets to a point were you just cant take it anymore. You play the server for maximum a few days before reaching 1z, the first prestige, at that point you, realise how pay to win the server is, realising that youd need to grind for weeks to progress even slightly, its pure insanity, all p2w servers are the same, you have a bit of fun for a few days, then the weight of how p2w the server is falls ontop of you and you just give up. You guys are doin amazing work here.
I used to play on the Purple Prison server with my cousin and we did not spend a single cent lol. We got rich from events and killing pay to win players, but eventually got bored of it and moved on. And that 90% sale thing never goes away.
Purp Pris is like 6 years old, I don't think reporting servers even does anything, besides, the eula-complient Bedrock store is even worse than these eula-noncompliant java servers.
I imagine they might have something simple where if they notice a crate being opened with the same NBT tag as one already opened, then that sounds alarms
When I was a kid I was watching a RUclipsr who made some trolling videos in this server. It was around 2015 I think (damn, 7-8 years ago). After that it was shutdown for sometime until a new owner bought it or the old one reopened it I guess.
@Atlas Yep, exactly, that is why there is no point in defending Mojang when people put the blame on Mojang instead of Microsoft even though it's the same thing at this point
Few friends and I made lag machines on here. We would make one per week and leave them dormant meaning every time one was activated and rolled back after a crash another would be set off and they’d have to wind back weeks of progress to find it
@@Edward-pw6zz Yes I love playing on 2b2t and I have been playing the Java edition since September 2013. I started with the pocket edition probably in January or February of 2013
Tamal really reminds me of those guys you found on PS3 or Xbox 360 and taught you how to dupe your car in GTA V or glitch into a wall on COD lmao, great video.
Protection effect caps at 20 total levels across your gear, unless they modified enchantments on the server, that protection 30 armor set is some quality bait
A few weeks ago i started to watch all those vids about pay to win servers and now there is one more!! This was quick btw, i wanted to see the reaction of people, at last its one more server getting exposed, keep it up bro!
Instead of using a trapwire hook the shulker box would be the most anti dupe thing ever, not stackable and not able to be in other shulker boxers, so the dupers would have to work harder or something
Its really gross how "clinical" this particular server works, not only are they running an illegal business that scams children, but they are so swift to protect their profits, its insanity. The way they handled the situation rivals that of the most competent developers and admin teams.
I've personally hacked on purple prison but it has only ever been purple prison some how I only got kicked one time, purple prison owns a bunch of servers that they promote as having bed wars and man hunt along with a bunch of other mini games.
I was staff on this server. The staff team itself is very toxic, and mean! There’s many pedo’s as well throughout the team! Server is filled with people who will dox you! So play at your own risk lol.
Best way to make harm to minecraft server is to get their backups. What i mean you make your dupes or whatnot, give it to bunch of alts or if possible just make random stashes around the map. Like doublechest full of the most expensive items and leave them all around hidden like in dungeons and stuff. Wait a while so that the stashes/alts inventories are present in the backups (week is usually more than enough on big servers) and then start the mayhem. When they rollback and or delete one stash, just open another and another. Best way is to leave loot in dungeons or alike where random players will find them. If the server uses the same map for long, your stashes may pop up making mayhem for months to come. I know this because this happened to my server back in the day.. some new admin though to make stashes "just in case" he lost the admin and then random player found one after months, spread them around and it went on until it was way too late.. Only thing i could do was to reset every storage block and inventory, boy did it make players mad
I can’t remember exactly but I swear to god I used to be a regular this server a few years ago, it’s really surreal seeing one of my favorite RUclipsrs make a video on it
to be fair... How else do you want servers to make money? People are money hungry on minecraft just as much as real life. Real life's pay to win aswell haha is what it is
Because the majority of targeted consumers are children who have little to no monetary awareness or self control using their parents money likely without their knowledge. Also fake discounts are illegal in USA idk about other countries
@@tommytheg7911 It's been a year now and i've completely switched my opinion on this lol. I completely agree with you. These servers are ridiculous. 99% off but year round, paying for overpowered items, and advertising to children for gambling (crate keys) its borderline incentivising child gambling and that sticks with you when you're an adult (looking at CSGO child gambling and it's 'back to school' discounts on their gambling sites)
In the uk, theres laws in place to stop sales banners like that. To have a sale, it must have been available at the full price for 28 days before discounting. It's such a scummy practice.
Heyy, I used to play Purple Prison all the time though sadly old me didn't think this server is a pay2win server, I grinded so much, At the end i quit this server and i gave my loot to 2 people because i hated the server, I love these types of videos SalC1 is making!
Checking in over a year later, they're still kicking The reports seemed to have no effect, although the packs no longer have Pickaxes with stupid levels of Fortune/Efficiency
If you're looking for the report link, I removed it from here just so Mojang doesn't get spammed. If you still want to report the server, just Google for the report form. Make sure to be specific when filling it out!
Ok bro.
Will do!
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Alright, thank you! 👍
*How about ddos attack's ? Maybe is works for this to shutdown Pay-To-Win Servers ?*
the fact they're so on the ball with checking plots of new players, shutting down and rollbacks, i think this is the first time ive seen a p2w server being operated like an actual buisness instead of some people just scamming.
Not to say they're not scamming, they clearly are but its strange (to me at least) to see it so co-ordinated
The term you’re looking for is digital organized crime
can't wait for minecraft p2w syndicate
@@DaRocketGuy thats the one thank you
every "p2w" server is operated as a business, but some just don't invest enough in administration and security, thinking that would save costs so they get more profits. This server like many other p2w servers is scummy in many ways like the fact that they hold a permanent 90% off sale to make people think they get a great deal off stuff, making that 90% off the official price in fact and they also likely do a lot of resets (kind of a season type deal) as their economy is gonna always be extremely inflated and people are going to leave after they get bored of it
They literally have illegal business practices in multiple ways, of course with those prices they will take care to keep it running for as long as possible. It IS a scam business and they will do whatever it takes to keep it on
Imagine being a parent and having your kid come up and say "Hey, can I have 8 dollars? It's for a set of items on this Minecraft server."
Also the fake sale thing isn't just a deceptive business practice, it's actually *illegal* in some parts of the world
Its illegal in most countries where Minecraft is popular. Australia, Canada and the EU all ban it
@@johnroach9026 true. it's also illegal in many US states, possibly all of them.
@@boldCactuslad yeah it is
@@johnroach9026 You're right about Canada, but to go around the law, all they have is have it at full price for x number of days and on sale for the rest. Canadian Tire does this with a lot of stuff.
It's illegal in the US
The whole fake sale thing is illegal under consumer law in Australia 👍
and so does in the entire EU. In fact, im pretty sure you can even do a Robinhood level stunt by buying things from the shop and imedieatly charging back for the reason of deceptive advertisement.
Also illegal in the USA.
§ 233.1). The FTC considers it deceptive to offer an item for sale at a higher price for a short period of time in order to support a claim that an item is discounted when the price is then lowered. This practice is prohibited.
Several companies have already been taken to court for this, you can report fraud to the FTC.
They honestly should have learnt the lesson Bethesda did, they pulled the exact same trick and got called out on it. Sadly, they were never taken to court
its even worse than most think its been a 90% off sale that supposed to last "2 days" but its been going to over 2 years 💀
@@burkino7046 technically its not illegal, if you watch the countdown it actually goes to full price, its for a split second, they did that to get around any laws pertaining in that and Mojang EULA as well
"Even with duping we can't keep up with the P2W" is an incredible indictment of the server.
Yeah, like seriously.
Its not just deceptive what the server shop did, its actually illegal in certain countries.
EDIT: Due to all the new information circulated in the comments, I think it would be best to say it is most certainly illegal in the country the server is listed in and basically every free country in the world. Wow.
Yeah, fallout 76 got slammed for it, and I believe OW 2 might have some legal pressure as well.
yep, it's illegal
Yea its Illegal here in Ireland anyways
Its illegal in the united states underneath Section 5 of the FTC Act due to the deceptive prices. and it may be considered fraud on top of it. both I believe are felonies here in the states
@@princezeit if only it was enforced :/
I know I'm a bit late to the party but I managed to crash an entire server with kelp. It was a money earning server where much like this you could get money to buy upgrades and other cool things through selling resources. I figured out that I could buy with my starter money just enough to forward a large plot of land, a shit ton of glass, two water buckets, and 10 kelp as well as the sand to grow it on. I then proceeded to sell the raw kelp to get enough to get some cobblestone and make myself a furnace as well as get enough coal and wood to make a crafting table and expand my processing. After about 3 days of people looking at my process and laughing at it because of how slow I was earning money compared to everybody else. People stop paying attention to me and I use that opportunity to keep expanding. I bought three other plots around me and connected them together to make a large tank I then used a plant booster beacon to increase their growth speed. What people didn't realize is the kelp when dried can be turned into kelp blocks. My one in-game currency could sell for seven when made into a kelp block. The funny thing about kelp blocks is they can be used for fuel as well. Thus eliminating The need for wood or coal. I also set up a collection system that would compile all of the kelp together and feed it into a massive auto smelter that would siphon off some of the dried kelp into an autocrafter that would turn it into kelp blocks and then would send those via rail all the way back up to refeed the system count blocks and any excess or dropped off into the chest. With the kelp growing at really good speed, each stock being able to bring 75ish kelp per minute. I had effectively made a infinite money generator that id just have to clear out once and a while.
No one realized what was going on until I was selling thousands of blocks at a time making thousands of dollars in minutes using it to expand outwards and increase my automation. I added smokers in the next update and the system got even faster going up to about $30,000 every 15 minutes worth of profit. I then bought an auto seller that would automatically sell the items for me so I literally had to do nothing. While I sat back and let it work other people began to see what I was doing and very rapidly started changing over to a kelp base economy XD everyone was selling off their old supplies to the market and starting kelp farms by using my publicly visitable one as a reference. Some even hiring me to make them smaller versions. Between the startup cost of my kelp farm, the efficiency, the infinite fuel for other projects, and the mass of the amount of income. I manage to single-handedly crush them. It was then that they dropped the price of a kelp block from 7 to 1 But people were generating it so fast and mine had gotten so big that even that wasn't enough and they couldn't put a value less than one in their programming. Other people began to swap over that we're holding out up until that point and it ultimately resulted in me getting removed from there for supposed exploiting despite me having played by their exact rules and their exact market. They got so angry that I ruin their economy with kelp that they ultimately ended up shutting it down after everyone demanded I come back on because I didn't violate the rules and everyone either got banned or left this pay to win server. They tried to start up a new one and I joined under an alias and did the same exact thing but this time I didn't make it out of glass and instead made out of obsidian with a pretty good looking iron golem farm on the outside to make it look like it was just a mob Grinder And iron golem farm. Little did they know it was like kelp farm in disguise underneath and they removed me again once I got over a million currency. They got so mad that they started messaging me privately asking me to stop but due to their false ban rather than them just talking to me first then asking me to chill out. I refused. Then they banned kelp entirely in their next one. The problem is bamboo has the same exact qualities but doesn't require water which makes it even cheaper to work and I did the same exact thing. They IP banned me XD
dang that was a rollercoaster
They IP BANNED YOU? gimmie server name, i have a hacked client, a client for duping and determination to branch off your kelp business
The "sale" lasted for over 4 years or more(I sometimes played this server and it was always displaying"sale"), staff and players just got used to it
it’s a tactic used by many games beyond minecraft
Yeah it's sad. The unfortunate truth is, that it works. I ran a midsize server for a while, before I eventually sold it. I ran a very ethical donating system, with almost zero items of power, purchasable through donation. The crate keys therefore were relatively stale, as with the ranks. Few players donate to support the server, but even those that do, will donate once or twice at most, and server costs are relentless.
It's possible to run an ethical server and make it large, but you either have to have a heavily modified server, to allow of lots of custometic rewards, which isn't in everyones taste.
At the end of the day, I was profitable, but considering the time invested, it was a terrible business endavour. I ended up selling it.
@@hejalll running a server doesn't have a cost wtf lol
@@GBEWgw2 lol what. Who's gonna host it? Most people use a third party host to not have to have your own running, or take the cost of running your own server rack.
Of course, if you have your own server rack / pc that's running 24/7, electricity will add up.
@@hejalll yourself artard
above efficiency 39, you get nothing more, you insta break obsidian already
Does it break instantly even mid air? Like jumping
@@Vitoleuu idk
Theres still debuffs like water, being in air, and mining fatigue
@@Vitoleuu No, there's a reason "op prison" servers go that high, because when flying and mining a lot you kinda really do need that high efficiency.
Source: I actually like to play OP Prison servers, but not this server since it's more PVP then OP Prison.
@@sneezing_panda bea but why do u need to fly tho, just mine on the ground ._.
That fake sale thing is actually a crime in Australia and the UK.
The US too, it'd be considered false or misleading prices under FTC guidelines. Someone else commented they played on the server and the "sale" had been going on for 4 years straight. That definitely qualifies.
@@Deadsnake989 oh man, if that’s true, those guys are super f^%@ed
They are going to be fucked with lawsuits up their ass. It's glorious.
@@pedrofromrio645 they ARE, its pretty much ilegal in the whole ass world, so yeah take them to court
Same in South Korea, you can get up to 2 years of prison sentence for using 'fake sales'
I can hear the Purple Prison players vigorously typing "OUR SERVER IS NOT P2W!!!!" in the comments rn
Out of literally EVERY OTHER MC server they choose this? Kinda sad tbh
@@-Siknakaliux-II I mean this is one of the worst ones lol
@@The_Horizon you dont even know the half of it, idk if u know the story of their old dev GMX but he was a pedophile and would make kids send feet pics and nudes for unbans and unmutes
@@The_Horizon yeah i remember playing it once
heavy emphasis on once
@@StagTwo Or you could report it to the authorities in your country for deceptive pricing practices which is the easy way
This would be so much more fun and effective if you guys would stay low and distribute over time to have a lasting impact that cant be fixed with a rollback
They explained why that wouldn’t work on this server
Mods check all plots and new players every night
It wouldn't matter in some situations like this
@@ThePenisMan You can check only as much as you can. If they would pretend to play over time and just dupe slowly giving people bits and bobs. Over time they would have succeded.
@@HidekiShinichi no.
@@HidekiShinichi this is literally only one server. Taking this one server down won’t solve the problem. Nobody has enough time for such little payoff. This one server is just a pawn.
That’s infinitely less effective than what they’re doing here and probably wouldn’t work anyways; just spam report them using your audience
Even tho they acted very fast, it’s still a win if they shutdown the server for 2 hours. That makes players go to another servers and new players to just leave. The time i duped on plateou it was exactly the same. The owner shutdown the server for 10 hours and he did a 7-hour rollback
Don't wanna be a doomer but I do think the effect of this is very temporary, it likely affects people who wouldn't have bought a rank more than those who already did or will spend money on the server.
@@maksiksq no new consumers for the server's p2w stuff is good
@@StagTwo i don't think the horizon will come back at least for a while. People (including me) have messaged him with dupes on server and he doesn't reply even tho he reads the messages
@@StagTwo he said he’s inactive but he’s planning on coming back
If there were a legal paid industry to mess up p2w servers, and they could be hired to specific servers, the entire supply chain of players can be cut off, leaving only the veterans in a state of decay, unable to show off their expensive things.
Actually, servers that are on a version prior to 1.19 can not be banned by Mojang, because they can use what is known as an SRV Rotator to get around the blacklist, even if Mojang blacklists the server. Many big servers have actually already been blacklisted by Mojang, but continue to operate nonetheless. I think this may have been patched in version 1.19, but I'm not sure. There may be a new work-around as well, and many servers still operate on version 1.12 or even 1.8 as well, in which case the patch will not apply.
In addition, many servers these days are beginning to use plugins that automatically, "scan," through each player's inventory every few seconds, and if a suspicious quantity of expensive items is detected, it can notify staff. Some of the plugins are very advanced, and can rollback _only_ the duped items. Some plugins even scan chests that players interact with, and mark the coordinates of any chest with a suspicious quantity of items.
Do with that information what you will, I used to be a developer for a large P2W server.
That is intense. Due to your behind the scenes knowledge, what would you say are the weaknesses in P2W servers that Salc1 could exploit?
A strongly-worded legal letter ending up at the operator's home address would get them to shut down the server regardless, I'm pretty sure.
@Too Few Secrets Depends on who is hosting it, and where. I don't think there is a lot of recourse mojang has, to shut down the physical server at least.
Some hosts are also located in countries such as Russia.
@Alex MacKelly It completely depends on the server, as each server often has different methods for preventing such exploits.
Some are worse than others. Some are ran like businesses and are very hard to crack. Some are practically impossible.
A few guidelines would be: use unknown accounts (accs that have never been in a video), use non-public exploits, play on the server legitimately for a while before duping, dupe over the course of days and distribute items across multiple accounts.
Have lots of small dupe stashes instead of a few (or only one) big one.
These are some things you could do to circumvent the inventory/chest scanning, as well as avoiding being checked just for being a new player.
Some servers use even more sophisticated plugins which track items across multiple players back to their source -- much like how a government tax agency might track everyone's transactions IRL -- in which case it's not possible to hide a large dupe stash, unless you have many accounts, many vpns, and do very slowly
I'm running a 1.19 server that cannot be banned by Mojang.
Literally doing more then mojang when it comes to p2w servers
But god forbid someone writes „nig“ in the chat, then you have the mojang police on your ass instantly
I duped on this server aswell, it’s on my channel. This server has been faking their player count and has so many ads online advertising different servers, all going to the same host. Gotta report these fools
Mojang is nothing but a husk of the company Notch built. The people who remain there are lazy cowards who would not stand up to Microsoft's bullshit, and as such they are worthy of precisely no respect.
Mojang is doing something against p2w servers?
@@waffleliker Nah, they're just more intent on chat swearing then servers breaking the law
Something I want to note about the high efficiency on the pickaxe, I wouldn't be surprised if they have custom blocks that take much longer to break. Prison servers are basically clicker games, and you gotto keep scaling those infinitely
I've always wondered why I never see fails, turns out Creators like you have to cut out the painful part.
What client does he use
@@Caden7651 Future client
@@katto1937 danke
Future, and i think horizon uses Meteor Client
@@Pritam252 are they free
"Efficiency 120" should become a major meme for this channel.
Efficiency MANY
breaks the fourth wall, the fifth wall, bedrock, the world border, and my arm
@@Addsup steve: swings the pickaxe
the pickaxe: swings itself 200 times
steve: oww my arm
*Duping 120*
@@russianyoutube bro just made a family guy cutaway in the middle of the youtube comments
The patch to disable trades was likely so they can get the server back up quick as they can and then deal with it later. The fact the staff were competent enough to immediately get the server shut down to deal with it, means the admins KNEW of these practices and an admin or multiple admins trained their staff to react accordingly. Sounds like something we do when it comes to cheaters and xrayers on the server. Have plans of action, etc. however I dont endorse servers that literally are P2W. Especially ones that fake their sales.. TF is that garbage...
As for the response to possibly rollback. TBH if they were smart enough, they could of tracked their "MVP" items and had a plugin wipe unusually created items. When we did things like custom wayshrines, crates, etc We made them all uniquely tagged. So if there was more than 1 of ANY kind of them, they were immediately detected. However only did this out of protection from breaking the economy from people that like to grief on any kind of server including ones that didnt even have a store like ours xD
I’ve been watching for ages, I am really excited to see how you ratio another server. You’re doing gods work because not only is it lying to consumers and breaking Minecraft’s TOS, there are hundreds of kids and their parents being ripped off and literally feeding these servers. The exploitation is disgusting and just sad
I was born with three balls
I used to be one of those kids
Some of the servers were worth, but not many
I also duped on this server, you can see the video on my channel. We exposed their big flaws and they paid for our silence…
servers don't literally eat though
You guys opened my eyes to exactly how P2W EVERYTHING has gotten. I'd been on many servers that I didn't think were P2W simply because when the EULA first changed, the server I was admin on just classified everything as a technicality "well technically they could earn this, it'll just take forever" and at first that was my mindset when planning my own server, but realizing how sleezey that was I completely deleted Rank packages and crates from my plans going forward and have forsaken the idea that "they can earn it eventually". now all packages moving forward are planned to be global. if one player makes a donation, EVERYONE gets the reward. If one player decides to be a whale, everyone else will love them for it
That's the right mindset 👍
So what is that servers IP?
Thanks so much for helping with the video! Glad you could make it and this edit is epic, stinks it didnt work out fully.
lmao Sal thanks for doing this, i’m actually a former player of purple prison and this server is HELLA pay to win, this brings tears and joy to my eyes, thanks for everything you have done to stop servers like this.
Anti-rollback idea: find a player that's been on a while, and after duping, give them the items. Have them hide them on their plot for enhanced effect, and wait. Maybe even play the server normally for a bit and build something on the plot a normal player would. The staff will probably always be suspicious, but less. Once enough time passes, whenever there's a lapse in staff online, you can trickle duped items from the long-term player's plot into the economy, slowly (or quickly with the right items) damage the economy through stash distribution
Just watched mr epics video with you duping on the server and not even a minute later your POV gets uploaded
ahhaha yeah mrepic's video was pretty cool
First person I’ve seen here who also watches mr epic, awesome community
same
I fell for that 90% deal like 2-3 years ago. They’ve been running that deal for years to trick new players into spending money.
Hey, I have an idea that might work for permanently destroying a P2W server's economy. It would take much longer than normal, but it would be almost impossible to fix.
First, you would dupe all your stuff like normal. However, instead of just dumping everything at once, you begin to sell the stuff like normal. Maybe distribute the items to some alt accounts and have THEM sell the items, too, if the server lists the name of the seller so that it doesn't look too suspicious.
At first, sell the items at a normal/slightly cheaper price. People buy them like normal. Over time, start lowering the price of the items. This will artificially deflate the value of the items, but it will look at least somewhat-natural, so the admins won't notice it at first.
After some time, stop lowering the prices of that item. This will be where you leave the price for a while. Next, start dumping all of your duped items. This will signal the admins that there has been duping going on, and they will rush to fix things. Make sure to draw their attention to the deflated prices of the items that you caused (edit: You could probably draw their attention to this by selling the duped items for $1 or whatever the lowest possible price of the items are, alongside other of the items priced at the "normal" deflated valve. This should make them think that the new "normal" deflated price are also duped items, and thus they will remove the "normal" priced items too). This will make them do damage control and artificially *INFLATE* the price of the item. Once they've done this, people who had previously bought the items will suddenly have tons of items that they bought cheap, and can now sell for a huge profit.
The admins would have two choices to fix this:
1. Track down every single sale that was part of the deflation campaign, and remove any of the deflated items and remove whatever money the buyer may have made on reselling the items.
2. Rollback weeks upon weeks of work to a point before the items started being deflated.
The first option is borderline impossible, especially on a bigger server or a server with less documentation on player trades. Effectively, the second option would be their only choice. This would DESTROY their playerbase, as people would have countless hours of time and effort erased, for what would be perceived as a single duping event that should only have caused a few hours of rollback.
The best part about this is that unless the admins go full Communist and force players to trade at a set price, they will have almost no ability to stop what is happening before the damage is done, as the only way to notice the damage before the final step of the plan would be to actively watch the market/auction house, and keep track of the price of every single item sold. And, even IF they did that, reducing the price decreases and spreading the campaign over a longer period would be enough to pass under their noses.
Do you think they wouldn't just have a hard floor on how cheap items can be sold? I don't play on servers so I actually don't know, but I can imagine it being a thing to ruin any chances of bypassing p2w. Or dupers
Honestly I think if you could somehow get this to Sal or any of the others that do this kind of content, you should try. I'm paranoid someone working in one of those servers might see and go the price logging route. Again, I have no idea how realistic it is for them to track all of them, but only having so many alts and having that kind of active monitoring could shut it down early
Then again, if enough people were in on it, like a decent amount who could spend those weeks...
This is genius, pure genius.
I only see one issue - time.
The more time you spend holding onto duped items, the more likely you'll get found, caught and banned over time. Even if the stash is hidden or split up into smaller segments, moderation teams might end up cottoning on and destroying them anyway - and at that point they'll be on the lookout for duplication methods.
All it takes is one curious moderator at the wrong time.
@@normalclown yeah that sorta came to me as well, if they're checking stashes, then where is this stash that doesn't get found?
Maybe it'd be a much larger amount of people holding to make it seem natural but by that point inflation would probably adjust as if they got those legitimately
Christ I hate p2w
@@normalclown reminds me of the holocaust, instead of Jews being tracked down by the SS it's duped items being searched for in stashes every night by the staff team. Literally 1984, I also don't see how the server is still up with an average of 1k players at all times while breaking the commercial use guidelines
I've dupped on this server way over 5 years ago the same way, incredible how they didn't patch it
As I understand it that kind of fake sale is actually illegal in some jurisdictions. A quick Google search indicates it might violate ftc guidelines. It's a bit boring but instead of duping or reporting to Mojang figuring out how to contact authorities and lawmakers could do serious damage to some Minecraft servers.
I love the duping videos man, keep em up!
Honestly this makes me so happy. I ran a server for a year where i had a solid 10 people playing. My whole goal was no pay to win. After months of working on it I started hiring staff and quickly 5ey demanded modes Like kitsPvP. I added it for them and left that shit “under construction”.
After a year of having it up, with constant staff issues and low funds I had to close her up. My bungee cord server was closed with me reaching my beginning goal of no pay to win. Instead, i had just lobby pets and perks for lobby and non competitive or pvp zones.
Keep this shit up, many more people would have gotten into MC had servers not been flooded with these pay to win scams. You can tell right away if the owners actually care for his players or just numbers. 😂
If they check the plots of new players all the time, couldn’t you just make an account, join the server, come back a while later and then get a dupe stash so that your account has a lot of play time?
I’m assuming that’s their next approach
But that's a different type of red flag, a sleeper account reactivating with complete knowledge of the server mechanics, its a red flag similar to the ones found in advanced discord server raids, alts slowly join a server and when done all reactivate to spam.
OH GOD, HE'S BACK AT IT
NOBODY STOP HIM!
*How about ddos attack's ? Maybe is works for this to shutdown Pay-To-Win Servers ?*
@@C.A._Old I don't even got the slightest clue what you are trying to say
@@C.A._Old they won't stop them and they're illegal.
@@guy_named_guy He's saying that he is suggesting DDoS (Distributed Denial of Service) attacks which unfortunately is a federal crime.
@@mrdragonboi *unfortunately*
I think the server might have a plug-in or background process that checks how many crates are sold vs how many crates are opened. If there are more crates opened than the number of crates sold, it could indicate that someone is duping crates and the admins will be notified. That's why the admins of this P2W server could act that fast. Next time you may try the good old method of waiting for a while before distributing, or just dupe something other than shop-exclusive items.
P2W servers might be lazy in creating a good environment, but they always care about their money 😐
No, when I duped on here, they had very active staff monitoring logs and stuff once they saw how many glitched items we put out. You can see the video on my channel
Wait while they get the technology to assign an unique id to each crate and make it unable to open twice
It's crazy how Sal's videos don't even scratch the surface of how bad things are in Pixelmon server communities.
Was a Head admin for a Modded server network, we had kits but nothing insane on my server. However they milked the Pixelmon server, I heard we had players pay thousands for crate keys. We also had a notorious rich kid who alone spent upto 30k at the time I had left. If you had no morals, you can live comfortably doing this.
@@uncleseamus4289 that's just insane
@@Jin-1337 we had "legendary" crate keys which was the only way to get Shiny legendary pokemon. The odds were insanely low. On top of that the legend pool would rotate, meaning you could open a crate at the reset and get a different pool of pokemon. Likely "wasting" your key. This key was 100$
I duped so much shit on those servers
When I was in my Pixelmon craze, the biggest thing was really just voting for servers for rewards, which was a level of quid pro quo I was comfortable with
When I was 14, I was playing on a prison server, and played for several months. When I turned 15 I got a job washing dishes for $35 per night (about 5$ per hour) on the weekends. I saved up some money, and bought the highest rank on that server for $200, and a month or so later, the server shut down in an exit scam. Honestly upset me as I worked 3 weekends and it was a complete waste of my money. Being almost 25 now, Seeing these videos provides me a little bit of satisfaction, as even thought it may not shut the servers down, it hurts the income of the predatory owners, and might prevent a young teen from wasting hard earned money on these scams. Keep doing what you do Sal, for the good of the community.
I mean, whoever is running that server knows what they're doing. The likely hood of Microsoft sending them to the shadow realm is unlikely.
Right off the bat, the most damage reduction you can get is 80% from protection enchants so having such high protection enchants is just a scam lol. Same with efficiency.
so explain why i can survive faling from height limit and take 0 damage with protection 100000 leather boots
You forget the game can be modded, you can up the cap with effort.
Did they or did they not apply effort?
Oh btw, I'm not sure if it's a thing or not in basegame, but in modded you can bypass enchant limits without any issues. Some "overloaded" enchantments don't do anything, like you say, but some actually provide stacking bonuses, either linearly or logarithmically declining (as in diminsing returns, at higher levels 1 level of enchant is worth less than at lower levels) and I'm pretty sure it's done without modifying the enchant code itself. There's a spreadsheet about it specifically in relation to MCE modpack, though I don't have the direct link at this moment.
As expected my link to the spreadsheet got deleted, but it's not too hard to find honestly...
That was Fast Duping and Reactions, Dang.
Weird to see such through Mods, on a server of this type.
sal you have to introduce them slowly because if you do that they can't really roll it back without players leaving. ideally over the course of a month you'd be doing it. It would also be very hard to figure out who's doing it if you just dropped them infrequently. you duped enough where in your inventories alone it would be enough to destroy the server, so just get rid of the plots and they'd have no idea
Efficiency 120 better be having the shit in my inventory before I even think about wanting it
I just ended watching mister epics vid, and yours comes up
7:52 A mod (with a very long nametag) has already caught on
MOD [Market] [|GANK|] Cembadyx: "no one open the crates"
This phrase fits these (or every p2w) server owners: "Regardless of position, a person is the same greedy devil"
Thank you so much for trolling on Purple Prison. I search for "Minecraft mmorpg server" once every while to find a wynncraft alternative. This server will always show up, although it is just not an mmorpg, not even an rpg to begin with. I honestly dont see why people play on this server lol.
Thank you so much!
Your doing gods work my friend, get these fools off the market. AND THIS IS TO GO, EVEN FURTHER BEYOND! While this time you were unsuccessful, the next time won't be the same.
it's nice he actually uploads failed stuff instead of only the good parts
I useto be one of the nerds who loved playing on this server and useto defend it with my life whenver anyone said the server was p2w, it gets to a point were you just cant take it anymore. You play the server for maximum a few days before reaching 1z, the first prestige, at that point you, realise how pay to win the server is, realising that youd need to grind for weeks to progress even slightly, its pure insanity, all p2w servers are the same, you have a bit of fun for a few days, then the weight of how p2w the server is falls ontop of you and you just give up. You guys are doin amazing work here.
9:35 it's not deceptive business practice, it's straight up illegal !
I used to play on the Purple Prison server with my cousin and we did not spend a single cent lol. We got rich from events and killing pay to win players, but eventually got bored of it and moved on. And that 90% sale thing never goes away.
I used to play purple prison. Immediately left when I hit a point on the game that had artificial difficulty.
The server’s been p2w for YEARS.
9:32 im also pretty sure a fake sale to drive customers to buy things at their normal price thinking its reduced is illegal in the US
Purp Pris is like 6 years old, I don't think reporting servers even does anything, besides, the eula-complient Bedrock store is even worse than these eula-noncompliant java servers.
I imagine they might have something simple where if they notice a crate being opened with the same NBT tag as one already opened, then that sounds alarms
When I was a kid I was watching a RUclipsr who made some trolling videos in this server. It was around 2015 I think (damn, 7-8 years ago). After that it was shutdown for sometime until a new owner bought it or the old one reopened it I guess.
Zexyzek?
This is the first video I have ever seen from you and I’m fully invested. You have a new subscriber!
All of this could be solved if Mojang had competent developers and actually enforced their TOS lmfao
Mojang's developers are super incompetent these days (as both Bedrock and Java shows) but what does that have to do with fighting against p2w?
maybe you should aim at microsoft instead of mojang, considering mojang is a dev team...
@@MangInutil doesn't matter, it's practically the same thing these days
@Atlas Yep, exactly, that is why there is no point in defending Mojang when people put the blame on Mojang instead of Microsoft even though it's the same thing at this point
@Atlas source: made it the fuck up
Few friends and I made lag machines on here. We would make one per week and leave them dormant meaning every time one was activated and rolled back after a crash another would be set off and they’d have to wind back weeks of progress to find it
Pause at 0:04 and read that chat💀💀
Wtf
why does the 0:13 moment give me the Team AVO video vibes back in the years?
feels so nostalgic from hearing it.
I always wonder how you discover duplication glitches for these servers. Do you just use old dupes that are patched on 2b2t?
damn, it is nice to see you here Unbrickme!!! are you a big minecraft fan?
@@Edward-pw6zz Yes I love playing on 2b2t and I have been playing the Java edition since September 2013. I started with the pocket edition probably in January or February of 2013
Tamal really reminds me of those guys you found on PS3 or Xbox 360 and taught you how to dupe your car in GTA V or glitch into a wall on COD lmao, great video.
Pretty sure fake sales are one of the very few things that are actually illegal under false advertising laws in the US.
Just wanna say love the vids recently you're one of my favorite youtubers!
One question I always wanted an answer to, how do those servers have such a player count? Or rather, why would you play on such a server
Protection effect caps at 20 total levels across your gear, unless they modified enchantments on the server, that protection 30 armor set is some quality bait
This server has Venezuela levels of inflation.
omg hi pfp twin
A few weeks ago i started to watch all those vids about pay to win servers and now there is one more!! This was quick btw, i wanted to see the reaction of people, at last its one more server getting exposed, keep it up bro!
Instead of using a trapwire hook the shulker box would be the most anti dupe thing ever, not stackable and not able to be in other shulker boxers, so the dupers would have to work harder or something
I just love how high quality this video is.
Wait... Aren't the fake sales illegal, too?
In many US states and other countries, yes.
So called "moon sales" are only illegal in some countries.
WOW A VOICED COMMENTARY O.o
Awesome video as usual ! ❤️
Its really gross how "clinical" this particular server works, not only are they running an illegal business that scams children, but they are so swift to protect their profits, its insanity. The way they handled the situation rivals that of the most competent developers and admin teams.
Isn't Purple Prision the server that gets spammed by those server lists when looking for a new server?
This type of content is exactly what I’m looking for! Thank you Sal for taking these servers down!
i wish you made longer videos i love watching these bro
You know something is up when they name their ranks after MC blocks lmao
this should a ongoing series tbh
Insane... they pay2win brings so strong adventages, that even with duping you can't reach what you get for money... why do players play there.
Nice double video with TheMisterEpic
When the server is so P2W that literal cheating is still not enough
Gotta dupe on minecraft central, sever fakes player numbers and is blatantly pay to win
Imma guess they have a notification system for when players get certain items and so they’d be easily able to see ‘shady activity’ etc
the 90% off tactic is actually super illegal to do
I've personally hacked on purple prison but it has only ever been purple prison some how I only got kicked one time, purple prison owns a bunch of servers that they promote as having bed wars and man hunt along with a bunch of other mini games.
I was staff on this server. The staff team itself is very toxic, and mean! There’s many pedo’s as well throughout the team! Server is filled with people who will dox you! So play at your own risk lol.
Now they are in a purple prison probably
Best way to make harm to minecraft server is to get their backups.
What i mean you make your dupes or whatnot, give it to bunch of alts or if possible just make random stashes around the map.
Like doublechest full of the most expensive items and leave them all around hidden like in dungeons and stuff.
Wait a while so that the stashes/alts inventories are present in the backups (week is usually more than enough on big servers) and then start the mayhem.
When they rollback and or delete one stash, just open another and another.
Best way is to leave loot in dungeons or alike where random players will find them.
If the server uses the same map for long, your stashes may pop up making mayhem for months to come.
I know this because this happened to my server back in the day.. some new admin though to make stashes "just in case" he lost the admin and then random player found one after months, spread them around and it went on until it was way too late..
Only thing i could do was to reset every storage block and inventory, boy did it make players mad
*How about ddos attack's ? Maybe is works for this to shutdown Pay-To-Win Servers ?*
good idea
Easy to stop and also doxxable so.. it's quite unsafe..
Horrible idea
except its an illegal and costly non-solution
DDOSing is illegal.
I can’t remember exactly but I swear to god I used to be a regular this server a few years ago, it’s really surreal seeing one of my favorite RUclipsrs make a video on it
PP i actually hate that server
Omg new videos from SalC1, FitMC, and MrEpic! All at almost the same time!!!
Nvm turns out Mister Epic and SalC1 collaborated
to be fair... How else do you want servers to make money? People are money hungry on minecraft just as much as real life. Real life's pay to win aswell haha is what it is
Because the majority of targeted consumers are children who have little to no monetary awareness or self control using their parents money likely without their knowledge. Also fake discounts are illegal in USA idk about other countries
@@tommytheg7911 It's been a year now and i've completely switched my opinion on this lol. I completely agree with you. These servers are ridiculous. 99% off but year round, paying for overpowered items, and advertising to children for gambling (crate keys) its borderline incentivising child gambling and that sticks with you when you're an adult (looking at CSGO child gambling and it's 'back to school' discounts on their gambling sites)
@@LukeTKC cheers
What... just watched the other POV didn't expect this
what other pov?
Hi ! Can you make a video about that "- Removed Herobrine" thing at the end of the updates list?
Purple Prison: Posts fake discounts
Overwatch 2: 'Hey, we can do that too!'
In the uk, theres laws in place to stop sales banners like that.
To have a sale, it must have been available at the full price for 28 days before discounting.
It's such a scummy practice.
Heyy, I used to play Purple Prison all the time though sadly old me didn't think this server is a pay2win server, I grinded so much, At the end i quit this server and i gave my loot to 2 people because i hated the server, I love these types of videos SalC1 is making!
RUclips really asking me “feeling lucky?” Gambling for videos and this is the only video I get from clicking it
Big efficiency levels are actually very common in prison servers because mining gets slowly harder
Checking in over a year later, they're still kicking
The reports seemed to have no effect, although the packs no longer have Pickaxes with stupid levels of Fortune/Efficiency