I have one if these gunsights in my collection. They're very complicated and finely engineered instruments. The gnurled ring mentioned has set, marked, graduations to set the sight for the wingspans of the FW190, He.111 and Ju88 as well as the Me109. My gunsight is still fully operational and works beautifully! Another WWII gunsight I have is from a rocket-firing Typhoon, complete with the rocket sight "drop" compensator. It too works! 👍
emaxx hidalgo: Just remember they can be quite expensive, as the really good ones sell for around $4000.00. But some models can be found for about $500.00. Remember too that there were gun turrets in bombers and these gunsights can be bought from upwards of $40. Just do an internet search using "aircraft gunsight" or "gunsight head" etc. Also as most people haven't a clue of how to describe such items break up the word "gunsight" into two "gun sight", and even hyphenated it. Ok? There are also many sellers under the search "aviation parts" or "aircraft parts" or vintage aviation. The trick is to try to be creative in your searches to find that site amonst hundreds which has what you want. I've seen aircraft gunsights from WWII, Korean War, Vietnam and up to 1970's jet-era for sale. For starters ALWAYS check on Ebay first before going to such dedicated sites as: spitfirespares.co.uk/home.html www.raf-surplus.co.uk/spitfire-parts.php www.aerovintagespares.com www.texasairsalvage.com And don't forget that you can also make a great aviation themed room just by decking one out with a few cockpit seats, and mounting on the wall bits and pieces like propellers, wingtips, control yokes, tail wheel assemblies, "Remove before flight" streamers etc etc. Have fun collecting!!
The lead computing gunsight at the end of this video was an incredible help because most pilots shot like pigs. According to several aces. We owe it to the British. These analog devices were very clever and they are very interesting to study.
I just cannot comprehend how kids were put into these beatuful machines with 0 skills whatsoever and were only taught basic shit while mastering both flying and shooting had to been done on their own in a freakin combat! This is something out of this world
Like a good shot at trap, you’ve got it, or you don’t. Close in on six shoot when it fills your windscreen. Only good shots got in deflecting shots. Close range debris could ruin your prop and your day.
It would take more than 60 years to get optical sights like these to mount on firearms. The red dot sights and holographic sights finally saw widespread usage during the 2003 Invasion of Iraq.
I know this video is part of a full length documentary, and It's available on RUclips. Can anyone give me the link to it? It seems like I can't search of that video anymore. Thank you.
Very interesting video but it seems like the pilots were sent up with a handful of gravel. Fancy trying to bring down another plane of equal size with what was an infantry round let alone a bomber, they had a much tougher task than most of us realise. I bet they rejoiced when they got some proper firepower. Brave men one and all.
480 rounds in a 3 second burst. 8 shots per square foot. WTF are you getting at. There are a lot of square feet when you divide 480/8. like 60 sq ft. Some of the pictures of German bombers shot down look like they where hit by hundreds of puny .303 bullets.
@Dave: "8 shots per square foot" That spread pattern is before the guns are harmonised. Early in the BoB guns were set to converge at about 400 yards.Combat experience soon taught pilots that it was far more effective to get in closer and to set the guns to a more concentrated cone at 250 yds. More experienced pilots would set their their guns converge even closer for maximum impact - sometimes 120 yds. especially in night fighter operations where the main tactic was stealth and maneuvering very close before firing. www.revolvy.com/topic/Gun%20harmonization&item_type=topic
You forget that a lot of the targets at the time were made of wood and cloth, and the ones that weren't were still pretty fragile. You also have to factor in combat speeds. A slower aircraft is easier to hit, and therefore would catch more of the burst. Once aircraft start getting faster and more durable, you see almost everybody mounting cannons to do maximum damage in as few shots as they can.
jose arevalos: The small triangular insignia on the side of the cockpit near the canopy indicates that the pilot of that aitcraft was the Squadron Leader. A similar insignia in the shape of a rectangle indicated a Wing Leader's rank. The colours and style of these insignia were taken directly from the rings of rank worn on their uniform sleeves. Also, Wing Leaders and above were allowed to have their initials - or any letters they wanted - painted on the side of their particular aircraft, instead of the Squadrons codes. For example: "JE- J" for Johnny Johnson's Mk.IX Spitfire, "D-B" for Douglas Bader's Mk.Va Spitfire and "Z-Z" for Denys Gillam's Typhoon Ib. 👍
Did he say at 1:25 that the "8-gun Spitfire would fire about 480 rounds in a typical 3-second burst"? That's 160 rounds per second.....a modern minigun shoots at 3,000 RPM, which translates to only 60 rounds per second. So, they're saying the Spitfire would fire 2.6X faster than a modern minigun. Am I the only one who was conflicted by that remark? I know it's 8 guns versus 1 rotary machine gun, but that doesn't seem realistic to me, given the times. I dunno...someone explain?
The minigun can run 6000 rpm, however barrel life suffers. Since it is mostly used for antipersonnel, and not anti aircaftthey turn it down to between 3000-4200 rpm
So if you work it out each barrel fires about 100/sec on high, the brownings had 2 extra barrels, a minigun is 89#, and the browning .303 41# each so much lighter, more ammo for same gun system weight
.303 machine gun in aircraft trim has a rate of fire of 900-1200rpm, therefore combined delivers 7400 - 9600rpm or 120 - 160rps which could deliver the 480 rounds in a 3 second burst.
emaxx hidalgo "Idle Onlooker" wrote a comment above. In one of the 5 replies to the comment, is an explanation of how/where to get one of these sights and related info.
I am no expert on second world war aircraft fighter planes, why could not have a flak bomb system at the tail to destroy a plane in pursuit.. I would like to know about the Foo fighters of witch a lot of pilots reported...
brian critchley or possibly something like there's no way to overcome the other issue because you can't load enough explosive and shrapnel or a big enough shell to do the job without impairing the plane
In 1940 no fighter use predictor gunsights. But latter in war Spitfire receive a gyroscopic predictor gunsight - like P-51, Bf 109 K... Later models of Spitfire use the MK.IID gyroscopic gunsight: ruclips.net/video/DREz7qI8xRk/видео.html
Many RAF planes did infact have gyroscopic predictor sights : Supermarine Attacker, Supermarine Seafang, Supermarine Spiteful, Supermarine Spitfire Hawker Hurricane, Hawker Tempest, Hawker Typhoon After tests with two experimental gyro gunsights which had begun in 1939, the first production gyro gunsight was the British Mark I Gyro Sight in 1941 In October 1942 they had successfully combined the image from the radar tube with a projection from their standard GGS Mk. II gyro gunsight on a flat area of the windscreen, and later in the gunsight itself. A key upgrade was the move from the original AI Mk. IV radar to the microwave-frequency AI Mk. VIII radar found on the de Havilland Mosquito night fighter. This set produced an artificial horizon that further eased head-up The radar-aimed AGLT Village Inn tail turret incorporated a Mark II Gyro Sight and this turret was fitted to some Lancaster bombers towards the end of World War II. With that said Many pliots got in close and would spray down it's enemy's Rather then shoot far off and only getting a few hits and letting the enemy know there attacking
This tutorial video will certainly help me for the tests I have tomorow
Ha ha ha...This is for people wanting to fill they're minds with something besides video games or some pop song no one can understand a word of.
This is literally me...
In war thunder....
Ah guerra já acabou amigo 😐😐
@@imamramadhan8712and IL-2 Sturmovik.
Gyro sights are absolutely incredible
Was this a youtube video inside a youtube video?
inside of a youtube reality
Kelly Jackson inside a kfc.
inside the insider
BWOAAAAAAAAAAAH (inseption theme)
We need to go derper
I have one if these gunsights in my collection. They're very complicated and finely engineered instruments. The gnurled ring mentioned has set, marked, graduations to set the sight for the wingspans of the FW190, He.111 and Ju88 as well as the Me109. My gunsight is still fully operational and works beautifully!
Another WWII gunsight I have is from a rocket-firing Typhoon, complete with the rocket sight "drop" compensator. It too works! 👍
Idle Onlooker where can i buy gunsights?
emaxx hidalgo: Just remember they can be quite expensive, as the really good ones sell for around $4000.00. But some models can be found for about $500.00. Remember too that there were gun turrets in bombers and these gunsights can be bought from upwards of $40. Just do an internet search using "aircraft gunsight" or "gunsight head" etc. Also as most people haven't a clue of how to describe such items break up the word "gunsight" into two "gun sight", and even hyphenated it. Ok? There are also many sellers under the search "aviation parts" or "aircraft parts" or vintage aviation. The trick is to try to be creative in your searches to find that site amonst hundreds which has what you want. I've seen aircraft gunsights from WWII, Korean War, Vietnam and up to 1970's jet-era for sale. For starters ALWAYS check on Ebay first before going to such dedicated sites as:
spitfirespares.co.uk/home.html
www.raf-surplus.co.uk/spitfire-parts.php
www.aerovintagespares.com
www.texasairsalvage.com
And don't forget that you can also make a great aviation themed room just by decking one out with a few cockpit seats, and mounting on the wall bits and pieces like propellers, wingtips, control yokes, tail wheel assemblies, "Remove before flight" streamers etc etc.
Have fun collecting!!
Idle Onlooker thanks a lot!
emaxx hidalgo 👍
emaxx hidalgo I have a mark 2 (and case) in the US if you are interested.
My grandfather few the spitfire in North Africa. He said that he had 17 seconds of ammunition
The lead computing gunsight at the end of this video was an incredible help because most pilots shot like pigs. According to several aces. We owe it to the British. These analog devices were very clever and they are very interesting to study.
And I thought it was just a matter of getting the dot on the target and pressing the fire button
Excellent! From where was this clip taken? I would like to see the rest of the documentary
ruclips.net/video/8JgyKO3WT28/видео.html
From this doco.
correct link - gunsight part only for purpose of communication with A3A WoV BoB2 simulation forum discussion as quick reference
Ever find a source?
Fascinating
Quality upload. No bs. No ad. No intro/outro. haZZZIE is a good person.
I'd assumed
Eli Feye except that it's stolen...
From where?
Have you been paid to say that?
ruclips.net/video/Ju-35Aeu1PA/видео.html
Luftwaffe pilot : "fake news !"
A huge thanks for sharing this.
I just cannot comprehend how kids were put into these beatuful machines with 0 skills whatsoever and were only taught basic shit while mastering both flying and shooting had to been done on their own in a freakin combat! This is something out of this world
Hurricane IIB had 12 of them bastards set to converge at 400 or staggered at what the pilot was comfortable firing at.
Well done old chap.
"separating tha aces from the others"
or
"separating the aces from the daisies"
Like a good shot at trap, you’ve got it, or you don’t.
Close in on six shoot when it fills your windscreen. Only good shots got in deflecting shots.
Close range debris could ruin your prop and your day.
ah, I always wondered why film of the guns firing always had all that disintegrated material flapping about! 0:25 🤔Thought it must be wear & tear.
this is really interesting to me
Shooting at where the target will be when the rounds hit was called deflection.
Or in my case, irresponsible sky busting :(
It would take more than 60 years to get optical sights like these to mount on firearms. The red dot sights and holographic sights finally saw widespread usage during the 2003 Invasion of Iraq.
Great info! I'd also like to see the rest of the video...
ruclips.net/video/8JgyKO3WT28/видео.html
Stealing youtube upload from another channel and not crediting it / giving out info where was this clip taken from. Fucking marvelous.
Blame the Axis
I know this video is part of a full length documentary, and It's available on RUclips. Can anyone give me the link to it? It seems like I can't search of that video anymore. Thank you.
Very interesting video but it seems like the pilots were sent up with a handful of gravel. Fancy trying to bring down another plane of equal size with what was an infantry round let alone a bomber, they had a much tougher task than most of us realise. I bet they rejoiced when they got some proper firepower. Brave men one and all.
Haggy58 it's not like WT, if you were on target, 10-20 .303 are going to shred through aluminum..
480 rounds in a 3 second burst. 8 shots per square foot. WTF are you getting at. There are a lot of square feet when you divide 480/8. like 60 sq ft. Some of the pictures of German bombers shot down look like they where hit by hundreds of puny .303 bullets.
@Dave: "8 shots per square foot" That spread pattern is before the guns are harmonised. Early in the BoB guns were set to converge at about 400 yards.Combat experience soon taught pilots that it was far more effective to get in closer and to set the guns to a more concentrated cone at 250 yds. More experienced pilots would set their their guns converge even closer for maximum impact - sometimes 120 yds. especially in night fighter operations where the main tactic was stealth and maneuvering very close before firing. www.revolvy.com/topic/Gun%20harmonization&item_type=topic
You forget that a lot of the targets at the time were made of wood and cloth, and the ones that weren't were still pretty fragile.
You also have to factor in combat speeds. A slower aircraft is easier to hit, and therefore would catch more of the burst. Once aircraft start getting faster and more durable, you see almost everybody mounting cannons to do maximum damage in as few shots as they can.
Halinspark omg none of the luftwaffe planes during the Bob were made of wood, stop spreading false information.
so cool!
Thank you. Those Fokkers will not know what hit them.
dummkopf
Stukant say that.
Monostripe Zebra And the Dutch, cuz Fokker is dutch.
So? The D.XXI saw service during WW2. :)
Keep talking smack about the luftwaffe and they will messerschmitt up
Splendid. What was the full documentary this excerpt was from?
ruclips.net/video/8JgyKO3WT28/видео.html
Video is so good, that has to be stolen, didn't it?
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Checkout these other, v. good videos,,,,,,,, ruclips.net/video/O_HEdbqEbYQ/видео.html
Why isn't there a fucking "report for stolen content" option.
A density of 7 or 8 per square foot! That would really ruin your day!
Yooo what regiment was that insignia from on the side of his spitfire I just unlocked it for my spit in warthunder
jose arevalos: The small triangular insignia on the side of the cockpit near the canopy indicates that the pilot of that aitcraft was the Squadron Leader. A similar insignia in the shape of a rectangle indicated a Wing Leader's rank. The colours and style of these insignia were taken directly from the rings of rank worn on their uniform sleeves. Also, Wing Leaders and above were allowed to have their initials - or any letters they wanted - painted on the side of their particular aircraft, instead of the Squadrons codes. For example: "JE- J" for Johnny Johnson's Mk.IX Spitfire, "D-B" for Douglas Bader's Mk.Va Spitfire and "Z-Z" for Denys Gillam's Typhoon Ib. 👍
* Wing Commander not wing leader
now time to go and play war thunder :D
just me passing through learning how to fkn aim in iL-2
wonder if thats how it was done , or did pilots just learn to judge it by eye
My guess is you either got it right or didnt live very long.
Did he say at 1:25 that the "8-gun Spitfire would fire about 480 rounds in a typical 3-second burst"? That's 160 rounds per second.....a modern minigun shoots at 3,000 RPM, which translates to only 60 rounds per second. So, they're saying the Spitfire would fire 2.6X faster than a modern minigun. Am I the only one who was conflicted by that remark? I know it's 8 guns versus 1 rotary machine gun, but that doesn't seem realistic to me, given the times. I dunno...someone explain?
The minigun can run 6000 rpm, however barrel life suffers. Since it is mostly used for antipersonnel, and not anti aircaftthey turn it down to between 3000-4200 rpm
So if you work it out each barrel fires about 100/sec on high, the brownings had 2 extra barrels, a minigun is 89#, and the browning .303 41# each so much lighter, more ammo for same gun system weight
.303 machine gun in aircraft trim has a rate of fire of 900-1200rpm, therefore combined delivers 7400 - 9600rpm or 120 - 160rps which could deliver the 480 rounds in a 3 second burst.
7-8 shots a square foot! And he said it as if that was shitty! I definitely would not want to be standing in that square foot!
I wonder how the giro sites worked
How did they reload?
Where can i buy one of these sights?
emaxx hidalgo "Idle Onlooker" wrote a comment above. In one of the 5 replies to the comment, is an explanation of how/where to get one of these sights and related info.
Filimg a RUclips Video for RUclips - True Genius (⌐■_■)
enemy on the sky....
So many missed targets bullets and cannon fodder shot into nothingness galore
RUclips video about a youtube video
I am no expert on second world war aircraft fighter planes, why could not have a flak bomb system at the tail to destroy a plane in pursuit.. I would like to know about the Foo fighters of witch a lot of pilots reported...
brian critchley probably something along the lines of if you fly straight long enough to aim this device, they would have already have shot you down
brian critchley or possibly something like there's no way to overcome the other issue because you can't load enough explosive and shrapnel or a big enough shell to do the job without impairing the plane
I don't know but those would be my guesses
Surprised that the spitfire didn't have gyroscopic predictor sights like many of their counterparts did.
Many?
In 1940 no fighter use predictor gunsights.
But latter in war Spitfire receive a gyroscopic predictor gunsight - like P-51, Bf 109 K...
Later models of Spitfire use the MK.IID gyroscopic gunsight: ruclips.net/video/DREz7qI8xRk/видео.html
Many RAF planes did infact have gyroscopic predictor sights : Supermarine Attacker, Supermarine Seafang, Supermarine Spiteful, Supermarine Spitfire Hawker Hurricane, Hawker Tempest, Hawker Typhoon
After tests with two experimental gyro gunsights which had begun in 1939, the first production gyro gunsight was the British Mark I Gyro Sight in 1941
In October 1942 they had successfully combined the image from the radar tube with a projection from their standard GGS Mk. II gyro gunsight on a flat area of the windscreen, and later in the gunsight itself. A key upgrade was the move from the original AI Mk. IV radar to the microwave-frequency AI Mk. VIII radar found on the de Havilland Mosquito night fighter. This set produced an artificial horizon that further eased head-up
The radar-aimed AGLT Village Inn tail turret incorporated a Mark II Gyro Sight and this turret was fitted to some Lancaster bombers towards the end of World War II.
With that said Many pliots got in close and would spray down it's enemy's Rather then shoot far off and only getting a few hits and letting the enemy know there attacking
Spitfire
Bf109
Acho quê depois deste vídeo ,estou pronto para a " Guerra " ! Onde esta meu avião ? O quê ?! não tem ?! OK vou fazer um avião de " Papel " . >:)
Lol...a youtube vid of a youtube vid.
ruclips.net/video/MGTuKICYB9Y/видео.html
Can you be any more obvious that you stole this?
save me pleeze,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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haZZZIE it's ok, bae. I'm calling the doctors.
thanks Cones, I need them,,,,,, badly in this post
Looks like bra.
Cancer plane.
Spitfire Mark1A it means that this plane is pure cancer
War Thunder references?
mulherpramim émerda butthurt wheraboo.
Aufar Raden hell yeah