"Diddy Was Copying Us" - Dame Dash Says Diddy and Biggie Copied Him and Jay Z
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- Опубликовано: 11 апр 2024
- Patrick Bet-David and Roc-A-Fella Records founder Damon Dash discuss how Damon and Jay Z influenced Diddy and Biggie's musical careers and their effects on Bad Boy Records.
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"Is he Dame Diddy, Dame Daddy or Dame Dummy? Oh I get it, you Biggie and he's Puffy ' -Nas
Ether Adlib (eww)
@@cblk1848my favorite ad lib 😊
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i remember going to high school with biggie...he was always a wordsmith even before he got put on...truly a special talent
Even the bots lie about everything on this channel
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Dame on Valuetainment!?!? Never thought I'd see the day.😂
It makes alot of sense
Especially being that he and jay-z were THE ones that popularized the use of freemason and satanic esoteric symbolism in hip hop
Yeah, this podcast is going down hill, inviting scumbag rappers. These people are the enemy.
Yeah but not totally. Patrick loves 2pac
Same! Clicked on this immediately.
Shout of to PBD for having this type of conversation! Much love to you.
How can Big and Puff try to copy you when they were before you? Don't try to rewrite history Dame!!!
Bad boy came BEFORE Jay Z and Roc. Crazy to to say the opposite
They were more popular in rap, but Rocafella had the streets that’s what he said pay attention
Ikr😮😮
Badboy was copying everyone. Even biggie was copied. He stole someone’s name and song. Google Notorious B1. he stole his name and song.
He was taking about the bottle popping and the image not the label
@@sirrobertthe3rd392Dame n Jay copied the puff n biggie side by side stuff in videos, that's why nas said it in Ether
Obama didn't say no to Diddy.
😂
That is where Obama and his “wife” met was at one of his parties
@@jaglinkermissed an episode, guys unpack this please!
Because he’s 🌈 duhhh just ask big mike
@@Mushr88mBreW the drone president is gay?!?!? It makes sense ultimately... Beta male are making wars. Trump 2024.
Biggie and pac had the 90s on 🔒
And the Wu.
@@user-dg1qz1wf7m facts dame trippin
Last great rap
Not true at all the 90s had plenty of rappers. You gotta be young talking like that
@ninjasta4970 it was alot but pac big snoop was doing big numbers
Big and Puff copied them? That was the funniest shit I saw this year. Believe me yes jay z is the god Mc but when Big was alive jay and dame was a grain of sand on Bigs beach.
Im big jay fan but noooooooooo noooo noooooo noooo dame they was not coping you guys
I think he’s talking about taking their style . Pac and Ghost said the same about Big . I think even Nas also said it. Big was notorious (no pun intended) for taking other peoples styles
Damn dash is delusional…never liked his ignorant ass
😂😂😂 I don't believe anyone that needs to ask me to believe them
Facts 100 this guy is old and forgetting things ! Put he’s insane ass in the mental institution
Jay Z stole word for word verses from Biggie several times shits insane to think the copying was the other way around
Jigga stole alot of verses from many Rappers growing up 🤣😅😂
And “me and my girlfriend”
Jay was paying homage to those rappers. Besides, go listen to Reasonable Doubt again. Jay is more lyrical than Big and Pac, he didn't have to steal their rhymes.
Biggie himself only endorsed Jayz as a competitor peer, no other NY rapper got endorsed by biggie. He even wanted to do an album with jayz. There was big mutual admiration between them. So it is very believable that Biggie copied certain things from jay’s reality. Because jay was actually really living that hustler lifestyle before Jay became mainstream famous.
Dame is a clown.
This is what you call revisionist history. Those of a certain age remember Biggie in Versace in 1994 and Jay-Z with a Reggie Miller jersey on in 1994 rhyming all fast. Who copied who? Dame hasn't changed don't be fooled...
Great interview 👍🏾 👏 👌 🙌
Pat You are fucking Killing!
Dame is such a delusional narcissist - he self snitchn - lol
Right? lol No accountability whatsoever
Who do you think is more annoying - Dame Dash or Irv Gotti
But the man telling the truth tho let's be honest
employee speaks
@@RB-fDame fog sure
Oh what!?! Dame Dash on Valutainment?
Exactly what i thought bro
He had kobe and shaq on I believe … not sure about shaq but Kobe 100%
Blessings...I was thinking the same thing.its amazing how people from all over the country we all consume some of the same content and it be a shock to see a Dame on valuetainment. Personally, I'm more interested in how they hook up. Because I know Dame is in florida now. Patrick- bet is a good ally for anybody, but dame in particular.
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I think because of the diddy situation it made val more comfortable bringing likes like Katt or dame etc to his platform
People for get in the 1997 video for Sunshine that Jay and Dame were wearing shiny suits. Also in the You Belong To The City video with Blackstreet, all on the In My Lifetime Vol 1 album. So they were clearly tryin to be like Bad Boy. All that “they were copying our lifestyle” is hilarious. Especially since when BIG started blowing up nobody even wanted to sign JayZ or talk to Dame and they weren’t even on anyone’s radar Lol.
They copied yet Mr. Carter has countless Biggie verses imbedded in several songs across several Albums. Jay copied Nas and Biggie style. Jay rapped like the fuschnickens in 1992 Original Flavors. Jay even stole his name from "Jaz" before he was popping. Nobody checked for Jay when Biggie was alive and rapping nor even knew about him outside of New york city. Stop this sir
Amazing interview
Great interview
Lyor knows the rappers are being told what to say and what to rap about he just can't come out and say it.
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This guy has dementia, Bigge, and Puff copying him is the most hilarious thing i ever heard
You weren't there so...
@@abusiness7450but we seen the videos and heard the lyrics. Haven’t you watched the Juicy video, the Big Poppa video, the Warning video.
@@357twilsonIt’s about when it became public if you weren’t there you don’t know this is a religious war btw so you gotta have your head on right
@@abusiness7450 I was and thats very inaccurate
Appreciate yall interviewing a real og been inspiring since i was old enough to process lol
FYI: Dame Dash and Jay-z were THE ones that popularized the use of freemason and satanic esoteric symbolism in hip hop
thats why pac said killuminati
@@USERD412And he said 'f* Jay-z'.
Yep. So Dame Dash is a culture vulture himself. Co opting Freemason shit. Hypocrite.
Big L did it before them.
Beyonce!! Became "THE QUEEN WITCH"!! After " GLORIA VANDERBILT"!! DIED!! Gloria was very much involved in THE SATANIC CULT!! IN HOLLYWOOD!! Her son had an interview!! With Gloria!! He claimed!! He wanted to know!! The truth!! As a young man his MOM used to take him with her to STUDIO 54 in Manhattan!! Beyonce said on OPRAH SHOW she admitted having "A WITCH SPIRIT !! Take over her!! During her CONCERTS!! That she has NO MORE CONTROL! When that witch spirit!! Take over her "PERFORMANCES"!!! JAY Z & Beyonce are DEEP!! INTO SATANIC CULT!! DRUGS!! For FAME!!!
dame couldve explained who the Firm was. he acts as if pbd knows all this.
for those who dont know, the Firm was a supergroup (Nas, foxy brown, az, cormega) produced by Dr Dre in 97.
Pat doesn't listen to hip hop outside of commercial hits. Don't even know why he has dame on here.
Stop Damon ! Stop ! Puff is known in the city of NY as that guy that made it big and dudes looked up and was like we gotta be like that or better ! Jay said it before when Puff got that 40mil from Clive Davis he changed the game, that was before Rocafella made any noise like that
Dame genuinely looks like he hit the pipe...... And the lisp be killing me😂😂😂😂😂😂
Ok Pee Diddler Fanboy Club President
You didnt get it. Dame n jay blew up later but they did it on their own. Puff did it wit the typical backing! Jay n dame were deep n the Streets n had more of a cult following like Big L who Jay actually ran wit for a min.
@@MogulMindset12 ok wannabe out here projecting and dissing w your " mogul mindset" 😂
Even though BIG had intentions on doing away with Sean Combs, Dame is sounding like he's bitter.
Tupac ⭐ Shakur 🐐 2Pac
Love this collab
Pat should try get an interview with Reggie Wright or Gene Deal.
Gene Deal for sure!
Why does Dame sound like Sylvester from Looney Toons?
😅😅😅😅
Really nice to have Dame Dash on PBD
Dame is mad wise, sharp, and intelligent!
😱😱🤯🙂PBD venturing out!
This is a big deal.I'm interested in seeing how Dame and Patrick relationship.This should be a good interview.. This is a good look for both.
😂😂 Uptown Dame! Puff was mentored and then became powered inflamed and left Uptown to continue Bad Boy independently from Uptown and with that most of the culture of Uptown came too along with the talent. This era and style was before you thought of the Roc.
Puff brought Mary J. Blige, Faith Evans and Jodeci to Uptown. He put them on Father MC's albums so people were familiar with them.
Another reason why I subscribed, PBD is the truth!💯
Great content dame should have 1 Million followers
Dame knows more than we could imagine.
Dames not saying they copied them as far as the music industry. He’s saying bad boys music and image was copied from dame and jays reality
Biggie and puff copied a lot of artists during that time
Nonsense. Bad Boy copied people Puff was around, cats like Wolf.
It went over thier heads
Yea you can say BIG and Puff copied a lot of artist during their time but it wasn’t Dame and Jay. Revisionist history with Dame again. He admitted in another interview that they were trying to be like Puff. People forget Jay and Dame were wearing shiny suits real briefly. Look at the “Sunshine” video from 1997. They were wearing shiny suits tryin to be like Puff. It’s real easy to say all this now, almost 30 years later when no one from that era that’s still around cares to even clarify the absurdity 🤣🤣. I can’t wait to hear the next thing he’s gonna take credit for Lol
Yea you can say BIG and Puff copied a lot of artist during their time but it wasn’t Dame and Jay. Revisionist history with Dame again. He admitted in another interview that they were trying to be like Puff. People forget Jay and Dame were wearing shiny suits real briefly. Look at the “Sunshine” video from 1997. They were wearing shiny suits tryin to be like Puff. It’s real easy to say all this now, almost 30 years later when no one from that era that’s still around cares to even clarify the absurdity 🤣🤣. I can’t wait to hear the next thing he’s gonna take credit for Lol
Love it without adds.
Great podcast
Dame will never go to an urban podcast with these wild assumptions about b.i.g copying jay or his style. Puff and big was the biggest thing moving in the east when they got on. One of one, no emulations!
They were the drugs connect, connect, connect but didn’t use the devils money like those other guys.
Word on the street is they involved in them diddy traffickings
What?
you totally missed the point .
id rather move columbian dope than take jew money
All money is the devils.
Thanks!
Dame’s truths are starting to come to the light. Everyone tried to paint a picture about him but he is very conscious and aware.
It always looked like Dame and Jay were copying Diddy and Biggie.
They all weird
Google Notorious B1. Biggie stole his name AND song. Diddy was copying everyone
biggie got his name from the character in the black exploitation movie Lets do it again with bill cosby and Sidney pointier
@@chauncey7982 He got it from notorious B1. and he stole big poppa from the same artist
@@OrangeJuicePapi🧢
😮 Dame dash !!! Now were talking !!!
PBD You’re a true G!
Dame is 💯💯 on this part of the interview
Dame soon gone tell us he invented the sun
“Dame Diddy Dame Daddy or Dame Dummy, Oh I get it you’re Biggy and He is Puffy” ether NAS
Dame doing the Pause game on Valuetainment is hilarious.😂😂😂
What I've heard is that this guy was in those meetings making sure no one robs his artists.
He's right, at that time puff and big weren't the big dogs in NYC. Of course Diddy eventually took over in the history books. Dame was too into street business to grow like the other mogals. Hate it or love it that was the lane he stayed in.
F*ck you talking bout?! Musically Puff was already big in NYC. Biggie was already super big by the time Jay released his 1st album in 1995. By then nobody was bigger than Biggie in NYC
@@rikkidgermano9640 Right he was the cover of The Source magazine with "King of New York" but I get that playboy style they probably mimic from Jay & them. Jay-Z was older than Biggie. They admired each other and would send bottles to each other at events. Try to see who can send them first to each other
Shit like this makes me stop fw u like jay did
@@rikkidgermano9640 Your right Jay Z wasn't even known about until mid 1996.
That's the same thing pac said about biggie, gave him his style and a couch to sleep on
Bro you here, love your videos, I need you to react to this
Yo organic I love your youtube channel. U the man brother
Pac got his baller style (Versace, Rolex, etc) from BK cats like Haitian Jack, before Pac came from the Bay to New York to shoot that movie he had some hipster style. As a matter of fact there is an interview with Lil Shawn where he says how they use to clown Pac for dressing like a hippie at Jack's barber spot.
Biggie been had his own style and was already exposed to cats like Jack before Pac even came to NY to shoot that movie.
2 Pac didn't have a home, a real crew or a style bc he moved around his whole life so he never had a foundation. He tried to claim his NY roots but New York dudes robbed and shot him. He screamed westside then Westcoast ninjas killed his ass! 2 Pac was a walking L, his death propelled his popularity amongst his glazers!!!
Yeah Pac was lying and a hater too
If Jay opens up for big how is he saying big was copying Jay? Wtf
Go back and listen, THEY (Rocco Fella), hired Big to perform so that they could get the visibility for Jay
He’s only talking about drug dealing not the entertainment side . Everybody know biggie was a few steps ahead of jay z when he was alive. If biggie never passed and pac they would be the billionaires first
I agree, and 2pac & Biggies deaths was a huge loss to the music industry.
Makes you wonder who really had big and pac killed dont it .
Biggie was a better rapper only problem with big and pac they weren’t the best business men and were getting robbed
The entire Ready to Die album came out 2 years before Jay Z debut album. Ready to Die is full of drug talk.
I don't know if Big and Pac were alive they would be the first billionaires because I don't know if they had that business mind like Jay.Jay was getting money before rap.Im not talking about slanging rocks just surviving .I came in the game with that mentality.Jay Dame and Kareem Biggs were bosses .Pac and Biggie could rap but I don't think they had that business mind like Jay.
Look at it...Pac was on death row .. Biggie was in Bad Boy but Jay came in the game part owner Roc a fella with Dame and Biggs.
DD sounds bitter and of a very high opinion of himself.
Better than anything your family produced
Really really really bitter the more and more that he makes mention of all of this!
@@christopherm202dcfinest2 sure thing pal!
Narcissistic
😂dash is a buffoon @@christopherm202dcfinest2
Has dame got retainers in??????dammmm son.......
Was just scanning the comments for this! Just had new teeth in or a shitty grill... I havent heard/seen the whole pod yet so maybe commenting too quick but dammmm. Ninja be slurping on the mic right there
I didn't watch the video yet but based on the title. I never forgot when I was in junior high and the sunshine video came out. It was a bootleg rip off of puff videos.
Damn right, Dame, tons of respect for you as a man, you are intelligent, classy and hood, keep being you bro.
Dame, what are you talking about? Bad Boy came out well before Roca Fella. What are you on guy?
Dame and PBD is the colab idk we needed
Dame dash!!! The goat!!! PBD the podcast goat for this!!!
Why is Dame so calm and collective???? Weird af not seeing him just scream at a mf and tell em everything they doing wrong.
Biggie never copied jay-z joe camel dame bugging nobody was thinking about jay-z stop it dame
Actually Big and Puff did copy that Big Willie hustler shit. Salute to Big, but on Ready To Die he wasn't rappin about movin weight. Big was not on Jay, Biggs or even Dames level on that drug sellin shit.
@@al5603okay jay-z still wasn't original and creativity at all who care had money before rap biggie was better
Jay Z soft
Jay and Dame had the streets
He talking bout lifestyle. Not raps
Dame Dash In This B!!!! I didn't see this coming. Already thumbs up.
“Daddy’s house Pause”😂😂
I’ll be glad when dame fix his lisp situation no cap
Always good to hear from @DamonDash
It’s actually not
All u heard was lies
What up Dame! 👏🏾👏🏾
Good Day Friends - This is The Real Raging Gun - LOVE
Regardless of his other opinions, “Brooklyn’s Finest” is still 🔥
Dame on val? Cant wait to hear him blame jayz 100000x still hurting from 2001 LOL
4:33 💯 Facts
watching dame interviews for the passed 10 years.....I appreciate alot of the entrepreneur spirit from him, but he does come off narcissistic and never takes accountability for any of his shortcomings .
Dame, Dash...LEGEND on ValueTainment!!!
rspx 🙌🏻👏🏻
Talk that talk Dame!
I like the diversity this guy brings to his channel.
Dame will always be loved by people of the culture!
Puff had Biggie copy Eightball from Memphis and the original Notorious Big from Mississippi.
You need a hip hop lesson pal. Haha Big been rapping since a teenager in the 1980’s. There is literally video on RUclips with Biggie rapping as a teenager. He wasn’t copying nor knew any B1 or Eightball and MJG. Stop it pal.
@@357twilson Stop what? Biggie's big man playa image was given to him by Puff and the label in the early 90's. The mid-90's was the Playa era in Atlanta culture. Puff, Big, Tupac, Suge, Ice Cube, Bobby Brown, Keith Sweat spent a lot of time in Atlanta and adopted the Versace suits, canes, Kangols, and fedora hat style that was popular. The Big Poppa chorus he even said he got from Outkast. Throw your hand in the air if yous a true player was a popular chant in Atlanta clubs. Cee-Lo was one of Biggies favorite rappers too. Eightball was rapping in the 80's as well with the fat pimp image. He was one of the most popular rappers in Atlanta and the South. Puff got the name Notorious BIG from the original rapper in Mississippi.
@@coleycole5344 haha east coast been wearing Kangols forever. You can’t be serious. And Biggie was the Notorious B.I.G before B1 in Memphis. Biggie is in the Source magazine as the Notorious B.I.G as early as 1991.
@@357twilson What is so funny and WHY ARE YOU LYING? Biggie was first on the Source cover in 1995. Bad Boy started in 1993 and that's when Big and Puff started hanging in Atlanta. Their dress style completely changed after. Everybody been wearing Kangols forever but it was super popular in the early 80's then upgraded styles were released in the mid 90's when they'd resurfaced. There was a big gap between it's times of popularity. Everything I told you was the truth. There was a lot more to the style than just Kangols. You're playing dumb. Notorious BIG from Mississippi. Eightball is from Memphis. I know y'all live in your own bubble, but East Coast, NYC, and Cali did not start everything, not even most things. Come with factual information, not giggles and lies.
@@coleycole5344 google The Notorious B.I.G unsigned hype source magazine
That ether, that sh*t that make your soul burn slow is he Dame Diddy, Dame Daddy or Dame Dummy? Oh, I get it, you Biggie and he's Puffy- Nas Ether
Dame was at them parties too! 👀👀👀👀 xx
I hope Dame alright he sounds bad
Love hearing Dame speak.....
Really.. I feel 2nd hand embarrassment
Pbd has always bin tapped in to the hip hop community he knows his stuff
Dame says I want to talk business, not talk gossip. Facts!
Ice cube wrote "Hit'em up" PBD...
Ice cube didn’t write that song. That’s a pac song, cube was not involved in that BB and DR beef. He had his own issues with the NY media and had his little beef with common who’s drom chicago.
Lol no he didn’t 🤣🤣🤣
Ice cube did not write that song
What a dam liar. Jay-Z Hella copied Biggie.
U didnt catch what he was saying🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Right on the spot with what you're saying!
JIG took a lot from BIG who was more street and gutta and, who himself, would have been able to ETHER JIG, let alone Nas!
Biggie was an employee, Jay was a boss big difference.. why I always had Jay #1 and he wasn’t rapping about make believe ishh like Big
@@eastwood_ib2126 BIG would have STILL been able to ETHER JIG!
@@eastwood_ib2126junior mafia was bigzz with lil Kim and them.plus he wrote for them all😢
Biggie was already popping before Jay-Z became popular. Knock it off Dame. Biggie and Puff were copying 2pac.
I never noticed Dame had a lisp b4 ? 😮
Yeppppppppp😅😅😅😅
R.I.P. Legend
Dude is his own biggest fan. Apparently trying to get money was invented by him and anyone else copied them
I know how one would get this voice Dame... Damn!
Wears his own stuff he makes very smooth thanks i knew of him but other thing's about him Great thanks
You got the date of the first shooting wrong, it wasn't 94
The Comission was recorded ?
Dame is the truth
TUPAC HELP PUT BIGGIE ON, BIGGIE LATER HELPED JAY GET ON. ITS A CRAZY MIXED UP WORLD..
I see dame I click immediately 😮💨😎
Dame Dash on @Valurtainment. You just took it up another level. Thank you.