Tips For Beginning Painters - Uncle Atom's Pro Tips
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- Опубликовано: 16 сен 2024
- Uncle Atom give you some tips to consider when you start painting wargaming miniatures. Share this with someone you know who's starting out.
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Honestly, the new Warhammer TV how to paint videos have really helped me with my painting. Not only have a learned some new techniques, I have also learned to say to myself "I only want to paint to a nice table top standard. And that is OK."
Most important thing is to be happy with yourself.
I've got some tips if you're starting out - or even just lacking motivation.
1. Nuln Oil - it's basically magic (or go for Agrax Earthshade if you think black is too dark).
2. Keep your painting schemes simple, makes it less of a monstrous task to actually finish.
3. Glue most of your model together before painting, or even glue all pieces together if you're not too scared of getting paint where it's not supposed to be (go for the hard to reach places first, then work yourself outwards, then you can fix paint spills).
4. When base coating I usually go pretty light on the spray as to not make the coat too thick, then afterwards I mix some Abaddon Black with water and paint the areas that didn't receive enough spray (or Corax White spray and paint for brighter color schemes).
5. I use 3 main brushes, a smaller one for regular paint, larger one for drybrush and a medium flat one for oil.
6. Details, especially in the case of eyes, can be hinted at instead of painting every single color an eye should have - when you see someone in the distance you don't see the white of their eyes. Skin color to the entire face and take a bit more care with the oil around and on the eyes, then highlight the forehead and nose if you want to achieve more depth.
7. Base color, fast drybrush, oil, some highlight if necessary - miniature done!
At least that's how I personally work, when I feel like putting more time into a model then there's always room to add several more steps of highlighting and other details after oiling. Main thing is to get them done and not just have masses of sprues and unopened boxes weighing down and just making it harder to get started.
Do whatever you're comfortable with, keep it simple, any kind of paint looks better than an unpainted model.
is oiling same as washing? so i do the drybrushing before washing/oiling?
@@SammyNyman That's what he meant yeah.
Depends on what you are painting. Look up videos on layering, that is also key.
Also, work with very thin paints 2,3 or thin very thin coats is what you want.
I use vallejo flow improver as a mixing medium (thins the paint but not the pigment.) Water dilutes the pigment and this is also how you can make a "wash" out of any colour you have.
Also recommend watering down Citadel washes in a 1 drop wash, 1 drop water.
Handy advice in that list, thanks for sharing. I am with you on the build, defo a great idea to glue together first.
Excellent beginners tips and advanced as well I guess
@@snickdesnick I never realised this about the flow improver, I thought it was only for my airbrush, thanks for sharing
Seriously, every time I go back and forth between videos, I'm always amazed at how velvety smooth your audio is compared to most.
First thing to remember is it won't look like the magazine or the internet first time :)
...if ever. I've been painting for 35 years and though my technique is far better, my eyesight is worse. So I'm still not studio quality. That takes innate talent as well as practice.
Very, very true. Thanks for watching!
Spectacles?
I remember I tried to get it to look like the minatures on the box the first time..... was I disappointed😂😂
@@theinfluencer2109 I feel your exact pain. First models and I was frustrated why mine were not like the box art. I found out later that it takes 8 hours for eavy metal to paint a standard space marine
That was good stuff. I would add two things, as a fine art painter as well painter of historical miniatures: No matter what sort of painting you do, there is no light that compares to DAYLIGHT - and no amount of burning electric will make up for it, because daylight has a wider spectrum than any artificial lights (including 'daylight' bulbs). If you can't place your painting table/station by a window, at least take the mins into daylight occasionally - it reveals things nothing else can, and gives you truer colour values.
The other major thing is - use the best brushes you can get hold of, for the finer work - I recommend Series 7 Winsor and Newton 'Miniatures' brushes - say a 1 and a 0 at least. And look after them - don't use them for rough jobs like basing, don't 'poke' into difficult corners with them, (use old brushes for that), love those tips, gently turning them in 'The Masters' brush cleaner and conditioner when done, rinse them super thoroughly then rinse them again (you don't want soap particles in your paint layers), then gently dry 'em on tissues and lay them flat or hang them upside down (NOT upright in a jar, as the water sinks into the ferrule and gradually loosens the hairs). Its all easy to do and just amounts to good habits.
Cheers and good painting.
Darklinger AEld-ridge Norwegians are gonna be pissed
I have just bought 4 of the Series 7 Winsor and Newton 'Miniatures' brushes sizes 0 - 3 and I'm using the 0 at the moment, but although I load the brush as much as I dare without including the furrell, I seem to run out of paint within just a short painting stroke, any tips please (no pun intended).
I also use The Masters' brush cleaner and conditioner in-between colour changes so as to keep the brush nice and fresh. Before anyone asks, I guess how to hang them up would be using elastic bands?
You have some great painting tips, but there's one thing I don't see that you've done yet.
Could you do a video on the care and feeding of brushes? I just invested in some very fine paint brushes for our models, and I'd like to see how to best: clean them, store them here, and transport them when we travel.
I should, but I take pretty lousy care of my brushes. I'd have to learn a lot before I made a video of it. Thanks for watching!
I agree on all your advice except the "you can always strip them". Never strip something you painted yourself. Keep it as a reminder of you progression. With the time we spend on each model even Forge World models are "cheap" compared to the hours of entertainment you get from them!
One final bit of advice should be to attempt to hold yourself back from purchasing more models until you've painted what you've got. Try to make new minis a reward for finishing those you have. Or, as the uncle sez: "if you're not gonna paint them, get rid of them". Keep your stash of unfinished minis to a minimum.
Some people don't want to re-buy, so I can see the benefit to stripping bad paint jobs. Thanks for watching!
Jens Riisom Schultz You can use good-quality lightbox photos of your works to remind yourself of your progress, too :)
I'm happy to strip models, having a progress log isn't as important to me as having an army I am happy with.
Besides, all well and good to say to never strip but we don't all have infinite money to spend practicing
I like these ideas too, because they focus on the mentality side of painting minis. If I were to strip a model I'd probably take some photos of it first as a form of looking back at your progress. No need to keep it looking bad if you want to make it better. 😁
So...I have been painting models all my life, on and off, after I left the army I was diagnosed with PTSD, when you said its your stress relief I can 100% relate. Painting building and making terrain is my biggest Zen place.
Keeping paint recipes in your phone (or any digital format for that matter) is a great idea. I have lost more painting formulas than I can count! The FUN factor has to be there when painting. You should be enjoying the journey!
Yeah, I use Evernote to store my paint recipes (and a lot more). Thanks for watching!
always watching! *creepy smile* :)
I bought a fallout boardgame that comes with only a handful of minis so I could try painting for the first time. Recorded it and put it on my channel so a buddy that lives in a different state could give me tips. Watched a lot of vids before starting but I think jumping into it finally helped me learn even more. Overall was a fun experience and I learned a lot.
You made this just in time, I'm starting to paint my first models. Ultramarines all the way! Thanks Uncle Atom :)
Young Birdie That's great! Hopefully it'll spark your inner hobby self and you'll get the hang of it. If you would like a tutorial on how to paint one while using the citadel painting system, check out the video on the Warhammer TV RUclips channel: "painting a Space Marine Ultramarine" Best of luck to you ;)
Young Birdie I'm not so much and ultramarines person. Grey knights forever
OGORS!!!
Yes, I have one pro tip. Prepare a lot of money :)
A few things when I got started in the hobby that helped me, start off with one of the painting kits from different paint brands, you don't need to buy more of those paints but it gets you familiar with the process.
2nd is if the painting kit doesn't have a few minis in it, get some RPG minis to start as well as when you want a break from the same army color scheme. Many now are a few bucks & a lot like Wizkids + Reaper are already primed so you can open it up, put it on your holder (I use blue tac poster putty and plastic sauce containers) & start painting.
Last is if you have a lot to paint, to paint a larger army one unit/squad at a time & this will give you a good variety of options that might not be the best in the game, it will give you some freedom to play around with what you have & see what you like. This way if you find you don't like that one elite squad/unit, you can be happy at painting 1 squad & not look back with regrets after painting multiple copies of that squad to find you don't like it.
You know it's quite funny you mentioned the wet palette, I saw your video for that quite some time ago and tried it out, It doe's work great, but the point is that I'd used it for a while and put it to once side, So maybe 3 months later I find it hiding and guess what, the paint's still usable ;). Goatee's looking awesome Uncle Atom! :D
I started painting my miniatures three days ago. I had already added base grit and primed the models prior to actually beginning the painting aspect. So far, I'm 20 miniatures into this (OK. My wife did paint one.) and I am finding it to be an enjoyable hobby. Your extensive library of videos on this subject has been quite helpful to me.
Great video! Especially the part about getting discouraged and comparing yourself to others. I recently finished an abomination for Zombicide, and was really proud of my work, but after spraying on matte finish I got a bit of a frosting effect. I thought the mini was ruined and I got really discouraged, but after taking a breath and watching some videos I was able to fix it and now it looks great. Thanks for this!
Absolutely the best. After a long hiatus of tabletop gaming, I've come back to it and your videos are great. Looking at things as an adult and realising all the mistakes I made as a child was one thing, but your videos have included so much more to learn from. Not just that, but your philosophy behind it and why we do these things is great too! Such a good listen when I need to put my hobby in perspective
I really like that you mentioned the part of writing down your painting schemes. I use the app Paint Rack for that, best available i think.
I should look into it. Thanks for watching!
My first minis were the MTG arena of the planes walkers boardgames, which I found at store near me called 5 below(basically an overpriced dollar store but sometimes you find rare/good stuff).
The pros are that I was able to get both base games plus the expansion on amazon for about 25$ total, so that’s about 75 minis I think. Mistakes are more forgivable when it’s at such a bargain that you aren’t ruining anything you can’t easily replace down the line.
The cons are that now that I have marginally improved and recently began working on the Ravenloft boardgame I have learned that the lack of detail in the cheaper MYG minis actually hindered me a little. The higher quality minis not only take primer/paint better without losing detail, but that high detail really makes picking parts out so much easier. It really felt like I haven’t improved much but my end results have improved by leaps and bounds.
Still I recommend it or any good deals you can find, gotta start somewhere and better to limit the cost till you get some hands on learning.
Thank you for this!! I'm about to paint my first miniatures and it's given me some great advice. I'm starting to wish the thousand sons models were simpler.
The new ones are pretty fancy, from what I've seen. Thanks for watching!
Great advice thanks been getting a little overwhelmed with getting started all these models I got staring at me missed a bit here a bit there going to start from the beginning and get it written down
That note taking I find to be huge now that I am doing historicals. I had a pretty straight forward colour system when I was painting IG for 40k, so never worried about it. Now I don't just need to remember my schemes to make them the same, but as I like to paint one part slightly different per unit, I have to keep track of already used colours for that. Great video, I have some buddies looking at getting into the hobby. When they pull the trigger on some purchases, I will direct them to this and the getting not discouraged. video. Cheers.
Great Vid Atom, as always. I wish RUclips was a thing back when I first started the hobby - man those days where all about trial and error. It's good to see you actively helping people getting the most out of their hobby, while at the same time helping new people get started. Keep up the good work, your work its invaluable for the wargaming community. ;)
I appreciate it, and hope than I can help expand the hobby. Thanks for watching!
As a new painter I’ve found tutorials on RUclips to be invaluable and they let me paint models with far better quality than I ever would be able to otherwise at my skill level. Also I’ve found videos showing how to do certain colors and schemes for one unit but used them on another (I’m planning on doing Lumineth Realm Lords in Thousand Sons’ blue and gold).
I totally agree with the writing down your paint schemes step by step so you can remember for the future. but then again I came back after 10 years and all my paint colors and schemes and everything but it's also a basic scheme with only four colors.
Coming back to this video once I've gotten my first models and starting to paint I have gotten discouraged, it has become work. Now listening to you a second time I'm taking your words in consideration. Thank you
The two best pieces of advice I ever got was to 1) Use a wet pallet, and 2) Paint in sub-assemblies. My paint jobs improved drastically pretty much overnight the minute i started doing those two things. I also find a neat painting area equals a neat paint job.
I'm not sure abut that last one. My paint jobs are usually very neat, and my hobby area is usually a dumpster fire. Thanks for watching!
I keep a sort of recipe cook (its a big, hardback A4 calendar book) that I do rough sketches of manikins with uniforms, equipment, unit banners and other notes of and note down what colours (base, highlights and washes) the troopers use, The wet palette kind of takes care of thinning your paints to some extent and also makes the paint last longer in each session, consider transfering your paints into driper bottles so they last longer (looking at you games workshop...) and on the subject of paints if you need a good Matt Varnish then Testors Dullcote Lacquer would get my vote.
As a final note to anyone out there that has had to deal with ''frosting'' on their models, usually from using the dreaded ''Purity Seal'' spray, you can fix it with a cotton swab and Olive Oil, Just go over the frosting (When its dried!) with the oil and carefully dab clean with a paper towel.
You are awesome! I just getting back to 40k since the new starter sets are better and cheaper. I think your tips is perfect for a guy like me that know the lore and tried to start gaming a lot of times in my life.
great tips, I am looking at getting into this hobby and i am using the $5 WH 40k conquest to practice getting my painting right, the video on wet pallet was a big help.
I think what helps me the most is getting the basecoat down first. (A basecoat is a basic layer of colors, very much like a coloring book). Once you have this, it's easy to see where you screwed up early and what to fix.
Plus, then you move into washes and highlighting from there. Thanks for watching!
I just started into the hobby and between my first paint session and the second I did a bit of research and 3 things made a HUGE difference.
1) Mount the mini. I use Scotch mounting putty and a wood peg that fits well in hand
2) WET PALETTE!!!! seriously this is life. Made from plastic takeout container, paper towels, parchment paper
3) Get some decent lighting. A 25 dollar lamp will change your life if you didn’t have one before
Very sound advice, especially writing down the colors on the models you paint. I wish I had on several of my kits.
I do it all the time now. Thanks for watching!
Here, take my like **p'chao!** Love your vids
This was so helpful . I was going to start of azog but I changed to the gundabad orc captain because of this video. Thank you so much
If you for some reason can't continue your painting session for a while it's also good to keep track of what you did and why you did it, maybe in preperation of a specific wash to go over it for example. Otherwise you maybe wheel out your project after three month and look at a funny mess of paint that you remember had a reason to look like it does, but that's it. Just happend to me with a spacecraft and I still have no idea what I thought should go on there next when I put it away in summer.
Keeping track of that stuff is important. Thanks for watching!
I appreciate your advice a lot, getting back into the hobby after a long hiatus. Never used a wet palette before, and I’m chomping at the bit tp spread some paint. Due to current times have to wait for everything in mail. Which gives me time to research and prepare. Also have plenty of time to get everything done and not feel overwhelmed.
Perfect timing!! I just managed to score a box of the old necron battleforce, so this video was very useful. They will basically be my first miniatures I have ever painted (apart from a few very poorly painted dark eldar 15+ yrs ago!!).
I'm about to paint my first Necrons, too. I wish us both good luck. Thanks for watching!
"Can we just have some fun?" cit. David Picciuto
watched this cause I’m working through an army right now and it is just good to hear some of the tips. Thanks.
Another thing I find helps me a lot that you didn't talk about is painting 'reward' peices. They can be either cool centerpiece things or even from different factions but I feel they're very important to breaking up the monotony that painting the same scheme over and over can do.
That's a good idea. Thanks for watching!
I know this is an older video but thank you! I just started collecting Warhammer and about to start painting. These videos are awesome.
Great video and some excellent advice . I found the biggest mistake I made when I was learning, was comparing my models to professionals 😂😂😂😂 . I’ve learnt to slow down, enjoy the painting process… Be patient and not be too harsh on my progress . I’m not entering my models into any competition, Im just going with them amongst friends so it’s okay .
I love this channel. You are so eloquent and correct about the advice you give. Keep it up please!
But you always been Uncle Atom! Nothing can change that!
Uncle Atom could you make a video going over the nomenclature of painting and showing in 10 or 15 second clips of what it actually means. For example a base coat is applied after the primer coat. Then maybe go into it's its importance and why it is done. then followed by a 10- 15 seconds clip of the actual application. I realize that there are a ton of painting videos out there but no one really goes over it in detail.
That might be a good idea. Might take a bit more work than many of my videos, but I appreciate the suggestion. Thanks for watching!
Bro I love your Videos. So many times have your topic discussion just hit home.
Glad to help. Thanks for watching!
I'm painting 1 tactical, 1 scout squads. 1 captain, 1 chaplain, 1 dreadnought all at the same time. You need to make a written list of every technique, colour and order of procedure because you WILL forget stuff as you go along when real life takes over.
Absolutely true. Thanks for watching!
4 or 5 models at a time, assembly line..always feels like I accomplished something, even just one color per session if I don't have more time
This is some really good sage advice Atom.
Great advice! Really love this show.
hahaaha i love the intro XD i need to get somethig like that for my channel ! GREAT VIDEO!
I've recently started painting and I've noticed that if you do the arms separate from the body it helps a lot
Hey man, Ross from Chicago. I just wanted to say thanks alot for all the great videos, I've recently just started getting into 40k. (My army is the Tau). I've watched alot of videos from lots of people but I gotta say your the best, maybe cause we seam to be close to the same age and it's easier for me to listen to someone my age then videos with kids giving me advice and not that it's a bad thing I just find your video layouts the beat for me. I've been building Gunpla for the past 3 years and have one some awards and contests, my last being the best large scale for the GBWC (Gunpla builders world cup) for the Midwest US. There is so much that is the same with painting gunpla but there b is also alot of differences. Keep up the great work bro and I'll keep watching. Do you have a Facebook page?
Great tips thanks for the miniature insights.
And the best thing about miniature painting is that i can watch these vids next to it :D
That's one of the reasons I make 'em. Thanks for watching!
great video! Also it tripped me out a little bit watching your hands, your sweater blended in so it looked like your hands were floating lol
This is just a nice wholesome video, good job. Great advice for somone like me really starting to fall in love with the hobby
I have recommendation when doing multiple layers do a model then put it back with the rest and then Chicopee another unpainted one and by the time your back to the one you started with it’s tried which lets you do nonstop painting
Great vids as always Atom : ]
Thanks this completely changed my output on the thing I just painted
1st rule, You don't talk about the Paint Club.
Chaos will reach you all either way.
But I totally did. Uh oh. Thanks for watching!
Serge Kent The who?
2nd rule, you don't talk about the Paint Club.
@@ggu0rck955 :-)) I don't know but I won't ask
Working in groups is a great idea. I tend to paint by units, but that's a lot easier for say... Space Marines, then it is for Skaven.
Thanks Uncle.😁
I definitely tried too hard for perfection, after 45 minutes my figure looks good and then I'de spend 3 more hours to make it look slightly better. Now I am happy with good. Painting games I don't care as much about just to get brush control down and then using those skills when I paint the things I want to look really nice.
Just need to find that happy medium. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the video. I find having a lot of unpainted miniatures demotivating. So when inertia strikes, I focus my attention on just a few one, two or three miniatures - with a goal of getting them to the table. And one of my personal rules (now) is to build and paint - just a few at at time. Do you have a video on a mobile painting kit? What the essentials are for a quick paint session? Another bit of inertia that happens is having to get "setup" and "break down" every time I go to paint.
Dark background + Black hoodie = Magical floating hands.
Just found your channel. Thanks for the videos they are great!
I appreciate it. Thanks for watching!
@2:48 Except David Bowie. He was always a rockstar.
Even from birth? Thanks for watching!
Destiny, my friend, destiny.
Is your name a reference to the Cirith Ungol song? Also love the channel. I like the way you just chat about topics that interest you.
I don't think so, because I've never heard of them, unfortunately. Thanks for watching!
Hey Atom, thanks for all the awesome tips! Also, nice t-shirt! ;)
Thanks, I just got it. Thanks for watching!
He is an uncle to us all...
Barber dead? ;-)
Seriously, I love your videos; honest, straighforward and clear thoughts from a fellow wargamer.
thin your paints .....every time I try the paint just globs up and looks crap.....I've given up thining paints and the results were much better. I know I'm doing it 'wrong' .....but it works for me!
MrBizteck I've heard that craft acrylics (big bottles) tend to not be very even in pigment and consistency - maybe that's your issue.
MrBizteck had the same problems also gave up on thining
Nemoy I'm using GW paints Ive used the cheaper stuff on terrain but models I'm using the supposed 'right' paints.
MrBizteck from what I've heard avoid GW paints, as they're overpriced
what a voice. I'm in love
As someone who has tried in the past to make money off of selling painted figures, "THIN YOUR PAINT", and "always try new things with grunts" are the best pieces of starter advice that can be given. After that comes various techniques, like "drybrushing is your friend" and "always paint from the inside out".
Great video. I'm getting ready together my Stormcast Eternals.
That voice is so epic! I believe anything he says!!!
the plastic army men from the grocery store are great, i got 30 for 1€ and i'm still using them to test out colour schemes and washes
Lmfao I love how he calls himself Uncle Atom thats f*cking awsome lol thanks so much for sharing I like your videos they help me so much
That goatee is magical
love your videos.
Glad to hear it. Thanks for watching!
I tried the pill bottle stands, but kept knocking them over. I dropped a couple lead washers in the bottom on the bottles and squeezed in some tacky glue.
They aren't impossible to knock over, but they're very steady.
P.S. I've built lots of models and partial conversions over the years, but I'm, in part thanks to you, finally finishing a project. My Blood Bowl humans are now the most complete miniatures I've ever worked on. You've helped me sick with it and accept that painting is a learning process-that I won't be perfect immediately.
thanks!
Good idea with the washers. Thanks for watching!
Very nice video, great advice
your voice is strangely soothing...
Be careful about using water to thin acrylics you’ll run into something called under binding. Thinning with air brush thinner instead of water prevents that.
Ive been having issues thinning. What consistency should your paint look like thinned? I bought Citadels begginers sets and the oain either turns to water or doesnt look thinned out enough on the figure.
I know it’s a late response but I thin paint until it’s basically a wash. I use capillary action on all the edges and then once dry build up from there. It takes longer but it looks way better doing 3-4 extremely thin coats compared 1-2 thin coats etc. The thinner the better but it’s more time consuming.
Words of wisdom.
Could you please show us a picture of one of your recipes and explain how it works? It's something I would like to do but not sure how they work or how to make them.
Your audio is so dang good.
Great channel!
I’m pretty lucky in that I was born a rock star, movie star and best selling author!
When I did the skin tones on my goblins it was a nightmare lol
There were over 30 of them with 8 different skin tones that I was mixing the color as I went. Started with a darker red and added yellow to it until it was orange then used yellow. It took all night because of drying times...
Thank god, i was looking for this :D
Hope it helps. Thanks for watching!
This guy has the best voice. Awesome information. So sad he doesnt show what he talks about. It's a podcast tbh.
Very clever speech.... as usual ;)
Cool tips, but how do you "strip" your miniature? What do you use to remove paint, and not destroy plastic.
I have another video about stripping models. Thanks for watching!
Thank you very much, iam still a little bit afraid to start painting ^^
Warhammer TV is also a very good source for step-by-step tutorials
What is the best manner to write down the paint process? I'm a beginner and my way would be to assign a number to the model (writing it on the bottom side of the base) and then to write down the paint mixtures (i.e. 2 blue, 2 white, 2 water) for the different surfaces, like cloth, armor, weapon, flask, etc. Especially numbering the model would be important for me because I'm a beginner and would like to experiment with different primers and painting results on the same kind of models. Is there something I could add or do different?
If you want to juggle flaming chainsaws, riding a unicycle, 50 feet up on a high wire - start on a tricycle - with stabilisers.
We all gota start with the baby steps. Patience, young Padwan, patience.
"Its a trap !"
- Gandalf
From Star trek