If I were a beginner and I painted up that first mini, I'd be damn excited and proud. I remember when I first started in the 90s and so many techniques and tools were not available, and there were no tutorials if you weren't surrounded by others already doing it well.
I remember my first mini. I literally left flesh on it because I used too much superglue to put it together and I glued my finger to it. Never did progress much further than that, so seeing what other people can do is my man source of amusement in this hobby.
I love that Warhammer literally (almost) got “their pound of flesh” so to speak. Also putting your own skin on a mini is about the most hardcore chaos thing ever. That could have been your theme!! :D
Oh gawd I feel like I should be charged with war crimes for what I did to my first D&D minis back in the 80s. The Testor enamel paints in those little cube bottles. Having no idea what thinning was, and those Testor brushes made sure every glop of paint cover what you wanted it to, and everything around it. When I got my first Warhammer minis in 88 I got a little better thanks to the painting tips in Rogue Trader and my introduction to acrylic paints.
@@usernamunavailiable Everybody starts somewhere. And I've seen some objectively horrible minis from now like Golden Deamon level painters. I say "objectively" because for like a 10 year old, they weren't that bad.
Thank you I’m glad you think so. I definitely like skewing the tutorials towards the beginners. I have the stormcast starter box to do the same with too. :)
A huge mistake a lot of novice painters make is assuming that good paint jobs require buying a specific set of a citadel paints and following instructions like you're baking. That's far from the reality. Most miniature paint brands will do, and the good results of a paint job come from technique and theory, not linear steps. The "you need these products" idea is a lie Games Workshop has bottled and sold to the community. If you want to actually be a good painter, watch a video on color theory, identify shadows, midtones and highlight colors you want in your mini (ie, do you want warm shadows or cold shadows? Warm lights or cold lights? Or neutral?), and practice your layering, thinning paint, and brush control, which is the foundation of all miniature painting skills.
I'm 40 years old and I just started this deep dark hole of a hobby and I'm already hooked....found your channel and in my opinion its one of the best out there!
@@alexpaintstinythings I'm about to purchase the "Introductory set" which comes with only five paints. What other paints would you recommend to make the Ultra marines look better, and what brush would you recommend?
Thanks man, I've been getting better at the piece to camera stuff - I imagine in a year's time I'll be able to look back and laugh at how garbage I was! :D
This is the first video that actually helps me understand this hobby even better than before ty for explaining so much this will definitely help me when i try to paint my first mini😊
How the hell don't you have more subscribers. You have an amazing personality and the little jokes you throw in are hilarious. I absolutely lost my shit at 'beginner clippers that "the poors" use' Amazing stuff man, keep it up!
This is a good way to show beginners how a few minor changes can make for a prettier result. And as you said, the first mini will do me just fine for my troops, and then just add a bit of love for the characters.
As a 44 year old yank who is learning to paint little plastic toys, I really appreciate this video, and your delivery. Subbing now so I can act cool when you blow up.
Thanks, yeah I think forcing such a limitation means you really have to consider "what would I get if I could really only buy one or two more things on top of this"
My brother, to my untrained eyes that first mini looked great. I'd be lucky to do anywhere near that good. Seeing you call it trash kinda makes me not want to even try. I know it wasn't your intention, but damn.
Oh no - definitely not my intention - you should 100% get into it, you'll be able to do far better than me! If you want any pointers, let me know - happy to help.
I'm so glad someone called out the effectiveness of this brush. I literally just started with this set and was very confused if I was just that bad. I'll be switching to something different haha Thanks for the great video!
I'd like to see you do a video where you "create" a beginner kit for a similar value see what's actually doable on a budget. Nicer brush but less paints etc.
Believe it or not, I have almost finished scripting THIS EXACT VIDEO!! That's good to hear - makes me feel like I'm on the right lines with my thinking. :)
Just found your channel, and you've got a new subscriber. Great video, and the comedy is golden. Genuine tears of laughter at the Jackson Pollock line, i had to pause the video until i could see clearly again.
that 1st mini that was painted with stuff from the box was better then my first ever painted mini, which looked like it came home from a botched tattoo job.
Oh I mean, my first EVER mini was hilariously bad - I wish I still had it to show people, but the lesson there is keep at it - being a good painter isn't an inherent skill - everyone can improve with practice :)
Really impressive with the quality of videos! Plus showing how to best utilize the little bit of paints one may have. (Also would like to watch a more in depth video on nmm 👀)
I’d like to do one on NMM but I guess my main concern there is I’m still a bit of an amateur in that respect. Could defo cover the basics though! Thank you :)
To be quite honest, the plastic, the assembly insturctions or even the laminated box works well enough as a dry palette in a pinch, ive been using them for weeks due to a packing mistake for a trip. As an aside, washing up the models using the family heirloom dish soap and dad's favourite toothbrush would help to black ashere to the plastic better.
Bought a cheap airbrush kit for priming and basing and it was worth the investment as the minis turned out great now need to skill up with the brush side of things and im dreading edge highlighting. Your video shows me how bad they would look had i tried painting without priming and a half decent brush, cheers m8 good helpful stuff
Interesting to hear - did you find a good enough compresssor for the airbrush? My first airbrush was a cheaper one and I found it more hinderance than help tbh - but I think I lament all the nonsense of cleaning in between colours etc. :D
*chuckles as he looks he thinks of the Adeptus Staticus-er-Stormcast Eternals from the AOS Introductory set he did a job on when Retibutor Armour spray primer he used was not shaken as well as he thought.* Ended up with 5 crusty-rusty looking minis. :D
I started with what I think was the first primaris start painting set. I did them as Ultra Marines. The only paint I used that wasn't in the set was brown for the holsters and pouches, red for the eyes, and white for the shoulder iconography which I did by hand as I didn't understand how to use water transfers at the time. I later picked Imperial Fists/successors as my chapter, but I still have that original trio of Ultramarines and will leave them untouched as a monument to my painting beginnings.
Oh yeah for sure - and you can always go back and paint the same marines again to see how far you've come - I wish I'd kept my first painted minis, it would have been a good laugh for everyone if nothing else!! :D - also transfers are the devil's work! I should really do a video on them but hell, I'm awful with getting them right. haha
Absolutely, although in the UK, parchment *may* need boiled because of possible silicone covering - I mention this in my wet palette video too - I love the DIY approach for sure, although I'm too lazy for it - I picked up the Redgrass one and it's served me pretty well tbh.
This was exactly my experience this year... after many years away from tabletop games I wanted to paint some Eldar guardians and bought a citadel starter box (the one with some colors, a brush, clippers and a tool for removing sprue)... it was so frustrating to try to do edges with that sad brush... in the end I had to buy so much more than originally intended. ...Nice work here with far less tools!
Thank you - yeah I'm planning a video on "what you actually need to start off" so that people get a better idea of the investment - it can be an expensive hobby (although I guess it odesn't HAVE to be) but knowing what that investment is ahead of time can help people I guess. Out of interest, did you stick with it, or did the experience put you off?
I picked this set up as my first, I've painted one marine so far and really happy with my result. The only additional thing I had was a DIY wetpad along with some different brushes that I already had laying around. The quality of which are probably about the same as the starter brush anyway. I don't think me having more paints would of helped much, it would of made it more complicated and overwhelming for a complete novice. Overall I think the set is pretty perfect for its target market.
I agree - although I do think a better brush is still something they could be less cheap about - you CAN get cheap, better brushes, so I think they should be exploring how to get a nicer brush in the pack just so people are not put off by that. - glad you're happy with your marine though - keep at it! Do you think you'll get into the hobby for painting or for gaming, or both?
@@alexpaintstinythings All valid points, if GW would take feedback from both veteran and novices alike, I'm sure they could create a truly amazing set. I'll definitely be sticking with it. It's great fun. Though I'll no doubt stick to just painting, rather than playing.
@@mikeyp4690 GW... Take feedback??... haha - good one :D - I'll crack the jokes eh? - seriously though, they should take feedback on, but the way the company has grown in the last 5-10 years I'd say they're a whole different beast now.
@@alexpaintstinythings Ha, did my noviceness shine through there? Honestly, my only dealings with Warhammer and GW would be in the late 90's / early 00's when the had a store in my local shopping mall and about a week ago when I got this starter set.
I have recently started this hobby with Age of Sigmar starter set and I'm glad I've watched this video now. I was happy with my results but not as much with the process of painting. I was thinking I must be doing something wrong because I was struggling to do the biggest details and the brush got "loose" quite fast and I also had trouble with the paint drying fast.
how this video can stay monetized is confounds me. thank you for making a shitty day at work a lot less shitty, as co-workers where wondering what i was laughing at. I literally hate highlighting black (more zenital hightlights but edge gives me a hassle too). be it a tabard on a knight, less well kept pants on the ass of a Flesh Golem, or a black helmet. it always comes out like the Flesh Golem had secretly snuck into the kitchen and eaten donuts and rubbed off the sugar on his pants and thought he got away with it. And while he was there, he definitely spilled flour as well. I think i need an Alex armed with a wet palette to guide me in the darkness... literally... because black pants. drybrushing works, but only if you dont have other colors next to the black that doesnt want the same highlight, stipling is what i try... (thats the sugar) and feathering has been attempted (thats the flour).
hahaha, you know I'm not sure it is monetised to be honest - I'm not that well known yet. One day!! Yeah highlighting black SUCKS. Your best bet is to find a paint brand that will do a number of "nearly black" paints - Both Vallejo Model Color and AK Interactive have a few - and order them dark to light, working up to smaller points - It takes a while, but it doesn't require blending or stippling, so you can paint black highlights AND keep your sanity, which is nice :D
@@alexpaintstinythings yeah i recently picked up army painters new fanatic series both black to white and same but with a blueish tint. we will see. and i do hope you get monetized! i will be checking in if not for painting, for the vocabulary. and the lo-fi asian music is spot on soothing. perfect.
Ah thanks. I never know if it’s too much or not. I sometimes assume people would rather have their own on but long periods of silence feel a bit odd! :D
GW loves giving those beginner models a good pegging. Unfortunately, it often ends up a dissatisfying and painful experience. Lots of gaping holes and big peg small hole moments. Push fit models are heresy.
Aw, no! Well, practice will help you improve for sure - I've been painting for years now, so I think I often (and perhaps wrongly) expect more from my own skills.
I love synthetics because they are cheap, I am cheap, and I don't do really detailed stuff. But man do they ever hook. I have been screwed by this trying to paint Guilliman for a challenge, as well as trying to do fine stroke work
So, I heard recently that you can get them to unhook by dipping them in hot water - how hot, I do not know, for how long, I do not know - but I was going to see what happened with the starter brush if I tried it at some point - it'll get mentioned somewhere in a video if it works, let me tell ya!
I subscribed because firstly, you're Scottish like me, and secondly, I just bought this set after returning to 40K (which I probably dropped after 2004).
@@alexpaintstinythings Well I have a 4.5k space marine army, 2k Guard, 2k Eldar, 3k Orks, and many random miniatures I just liked. Then don't get me started on brushes, paints, oh so many things on the way down that slope.
I don't know how you got that first mini to look so good, I had such a hard time with a starter kit that i didn't even finish one mini before giving up.
I used to paint and play a bit back in the 90s. Looking forward to watch all your videos and get back into it. I think i will avoid this kit. Back in the day they used to have a catalogue with all available miniatures. Do you know if they have somthing like that now, im struggling to find one. Subbed
Thank you!! So the warhammer website is where to go for everything they do now, it’s not the easiest to navigate but the days of the catalogue are sadly gone. Feel free to reach out if I can help :)
Aw no, that's not my intention here - I guess having been painting for years I hold myself to silly standards with this stuff - keep at it, and don't let my flippancy put you off! :)
Awesome! Welcome to the hobby. This will depend on what chapter you would like to paint. Ultra Marines are the blue lads but there are many others too. Assuming Ultra Marines I’d suggest a light and dark brown (for leather and pouches) a silver (for gun parts) a grey (for edge highlighting black) a light blue for edge highlighting the blue and nuln oil wash (which is a black shade) - that will get you a bit further than the few you get in the starter set :)
For me it's my workhorse - I find they last long enough to make them worthwhile, provided you take care of it - brush soap will help in that respect. I'd say because they're all hand-made you occasionally get a duffer, but I've never not been able to get a refund when that happens - just keep the brush, reciept and tube it comes in to show people. The "good to duffer" ratio has been better with these than any other high-end brand too - so definitely worth the investment in my eyes (I speak a little to this in my brushes video) - I'd say in the last couple of years people have felt the quality waning, and many people love Artis Opus as a solid alternative, but my first full set of Artis Opus were awful, I had to refund the entire lot so I guess the lesson is, your mileage may vary wherever you go, but if you get a good W&N Series 7, it's just glorious! :)
Magnifying glasses for sure - they're cheap on places like Amazon, and make a big difference - if you already wear glasses, you can buy ones that clip on too - I wear them for most paint jobs now just so I can see the details better. Apart from that, a good light will make a big difference too - you'd be surprised at the clarity you can get with a solid brighter task lamp - something at the 2,200 Lumens mark. - My recommendation is give it a bash and see how you get on - don't be afraid of messing it up :)
Another quality video Alex. You sir are tremendously humourous 😆😁. One question would the results be cleaner and more vibrant using a white first coat of thinned paint? Then a coat of the blue followed by a wash of Agrax or a darkened blue (with the black) mixed wash? Then clean up the base coat of blue with the original blue + some lightened blue + the white. 😊
Thank you! I try :) - good question too, vibrant, perhaps - although I'd say "lighter" more than "more vibrant" just since the vibrancy might not be as affected as you'd expect - The benefit of course with the black basecoat is that it lends itself well to shadows, recesses and things that your brush won't touch - so under the gun, in bits between the arm and body or insides of shoulder pads - if you base (or even prime) with white, then you're going to have those stand out a fair bit and would need some serious recess shades to help dull them a bit. I do like your thinking though - the approach sounds reasonable - especially if you're keeping with the black, THEN going on with white, then blue over that.(the white, then blue, then washing, then blue again, and lighten) - it would defo give more variation in colour. All of that said, it's defo more time consuming - my time spend on each marine was about 1-1.5 hours, and I suspect that would be upped a fair bit with further techniques. :)
Clearly missed opportunity to use the gw brush again on the 2nd and 3rd marine after its tip was fu... ehm... enhanced... by the texture-paint after each marine.
I just started getting into warhammer recently after playing roguetrader and I ordered my first figure to paint and i feel like i went to hard to fast but well see how it goes. I got the Boss Snikrot.
There is no "too fast" with Warhammer haha - especially if you're playing orks!! - I'm working on a "what you need to get started" video as we speak so that should be out in a week or two, so it might help :)
Wouldn't recommend natural hair brushes to newbies. They won't take care of them properly, especially with them using washes, so it'll be a waste of money.
That’s an interesting take. I agree with you, to a point - I think it’s more an age issue though. Newbies to the hobby who are not too young will understand, but perhaps kids would need to work with synthetic first. That said, I picked up some Kolinsky Sable brushes for 3 quid each at a recent scale model meet up and honestly for the price I’d say you could afford to waste a few learning the basics. Also, I use natural hair to wash with and it’s not been an issue - but I absolutely get your point. I guess it’s maybe more a question of age, dexterity and willingness to learn. :)
Ok so first of all these kits are for new hobbiest and not experianced people, and by showing that you can paint a model to a decent standard with what you get proves that you do not need a lot if you got the talent. However this product is not there to help improve peoples hobby, its a start... let that sink in so you can understand. 100% of peaple can not paint well when they start, so there is no point having a set that has all the brushes and paints they need. Having a cheap and simple brush and some few basic paints is enough for people to test the waters and then to expand on. Also, you don't hav to prime every single model to have it look good. I been painting for 15 years ever since I got into 3rd edition and there was many times I could not prime my models because it was raining or I ran out of primer and the shop was closed.
I think we can give the beginners a better experience - I’d say more chance they’ll stay if they enjoy painting. I feel like this sort of thing is why some people end up losing interest in the painting side of the hobby. I get this is for beginners, and to let them dip their toes, for sure - and yes not for me - but I was curious to see what was possible with the set :)
If I were a beginner and I painted up that first mini, I'd be damn excited and proud. I remember when I first started in the 90s and so many techniques and tools were not available, and there were no tutorials if you weren't surrounded by others already doing it well.
Thank you! I also remember some of my firts minis (sadly I no longer have them) but yeah, the difference time and experiece makes is quite something!
I remember my first mini. I literally left flesh on it because I used too much superglue to put it together and I glued my finger to it. Never did progress much further than that, so seeing what other people can do is my man source of amusement in this hobby.
I love that Warhammer literally (almost) got “their pound of flesh” so to speak. Also putting your own skin on a mini is about the most hardcore chaos thing ever. That could have been your theme!! :D
Oh gawd I feel like I should be charged with war crimes for what I did to my first D&D minis back in the 80s. The Testor enamel paints in those little cube bottles. Having no idea what thinning was, and those Testor brushes made sure every glop of paint cover what you wanted it to, and everything around it. When I got my first Warhammer minis in 88 I got a little better thanks to the painting tips in Rogue Trader and my introduction to acrylic paints.
@@usernamunavailiable Everybody starts somewhere. And I've seen some objectively horrible minis from now like Golden Deamon level painters. I say "objectively" because for like a 10 year old, they weren't that bad.
This is actually a really informative video.
Alot of already tutorials expect you to have a huge variety of paints. Not helpful with limited supplies.
Thank you I’m glad you think so. I definitely like skewing the tutorials towards the beginners. I have the stormcast starter box to do the same with too. :)
A huge mistake a lot of novice painters make is assuming that good paint jobs require buying a specific set of a citadel paints and following instructions like you're baking. That's far from the reality. Most miniature paint brands will do, and the good results of a paint job come from technique and theory, not linear steps. The "you need these products" idea is a lie Games Workshop has bottled and sold to the community. If you want to actually be a good painter, watch a video on color theory, identify shadows, midtones and highlight colors you want in your mini (ie, do you want warm shadows or cold shadows? Warm lights or cold lights? Or neutral?), and practice your layering, thinning paint, and brush control, which is the foundation of all miniature painting skills.
You're absolutely bang on. 100%
I'm 40 years old and I just started this deep dark hole of a hobby and I'm already hooked....found your channel and in my opinion its one of the best out there!
Welcome to the hobby! and thank you :)
Run, run before it's too late! Your wallet will thank you!
Just kidding. Welcome to the hobby.
I ordered this set yesterday and I can’t wait to start, this tips will greatly help me as a beginner in warhammer 40k
Excellent, best of luck. I’d suggest picking up a spray primer, a better brush and a few other paints if you can :)
@@alexpaintstinythings I'm about to purchase the "Introductory set" which comes with only five paints. What other paints would you recommend to make the Ultra marines look better, and what brush would you recommend?
It's actually wild how good these videos are for how long you've been doing them. You present really well.
Thanks man, I've been getting better at the piece to camera stuff - I imagine in a year's time I'll be able to look back and laugh at how garbage I was! :D
"Using a Windsor and newton series 7 for metallics is sacrilege" god emperor of mankind
Haha I use that brush for almost everything. It gets a good wash at the end of a heavy session then we both just lie there and share a cigarette. :D
I loved your kinda sarcastic/helpful tone when referring to previous videos about techniques shown here, truly my type of humor.
This is the first video that actually helps me understand this hobby even better than before ty for explaining so much this will definitely help me when i try to paint my first mini😊
Your commentary on this is absolute gold, the Jackson pollock line is inspired
Haha believe it or not I had to re-record it after being unable to say it the first time without laughing :D
I like the fact you’re a 40 something mini painter and proud
How the hell don't you have more subscribers. You have an amazing personality and the little jokes you throw in are hilarious.
I absolutely lost my shit at 'beginner clippers that "the poors" use'
Amazing stuff man, keep it up!
This is a good way to show beginners how a few minor changes can make for a prettier result.
And as you said, the first mini will do me just fine for my troops, and then just add a bit of love for the characters.
Absolutely - glad you like it!
As a 44 year old yank who is learning to paint little plastic toys, I really appreciate this video, and your delivery. Subbing now so I can act cool when you blow up.
Excellent. Thank you!! I'm more than open to you become president of the fan club - just let me know, I'm sure we can arrange a badge or something! :D
I like how you took it back to basics. Really highlights where to invest in the painting hobby side of things.
Thanks, yeah I think forcing such a limitation means you really have to consider "what would I get if I could really only buy one or two more things on top of this"
My brother, to my untrained eyes that first mini looked great. I'd be lucky to do anywhere near that good. Seeing you call it trash kinda makes me not want to even try. I know it wasn't your intention, but damn.
Oh no - definitely not my intention - you should 100% get into it, you'll be able to do far better than me! If you want any pointers, let me know - happy to help.
I'm so glad someone called out the effectiveness of this brush. I literally just started with this set and was very confused if I was just that bad. I'll be switching to something different haha Thanks for the great video!
No problem at all - don't worry - it's not you going mad, it's a terrible brush :D
Truthfully, I think they came out fantastic given the paints and brush you had to work with.
Yes we do, great video and thank you.
I'd like to see you do a video where you "create" a beginner kit for a similar value see what's actually doable on a budget. Nicer brush but less paints etc.
Believe it or not, I have almost finished scripting THIS EXACT VIDEO!! That's good to hear - makes me feel like I'm on the right lines with my thinking. :)
@@alexpaintstinythings yessssssss I need to see it soon before I make anymore poor financial decisions with this hobby… haha
@@NVS_Videos Hope I can get it finished, filmed and out int he next 2 weeks - fingers crossed.
@@alexpaintstinythings 🙏
Just found your channel, and you've got a new subscriber. Great video, and the comedy is golden. Genuine tears of laughter at the Jackson Pollock line, i had to pause the video until i could see clearly again.
haha, brilliant - glad to hear it :D
Love the video, the snarky sarcastic sense of humor hits the right tone with me.
You are my audience :) Thank you!
9:24 just wait till you see me do it
Haha - feel free to share your progress!
that 1st mini that was painted with stuff from the box was better then my first ever painted mini, which looked like it came home from a botched tattoo job.
Oh I mean, my first EVER mini was hilariously bad - I wish I still had it to show people, but the lesson there is keep at it - being a good painter isn't an inherent skill - everyone can improve with practice :)
Really impressive with the quality of videos! Plus showing how to best utilize the little bit of paints one may have. (Also would like to watch a more in depth video on nmm 👀)
I’d like to do one on NMM but I guess my main concern there is I’m still a bit of an amateur in that respect. Could defo cover the basics though! Thank you :)
To be quite honest, the plastic, the assembly insturctions or even the laminated box works well enough as a dry palette in a pinch, ive been using them for weeks due to a packing mistake for a trip.
As an aside, washing up the models using the family heirloom dish soap and dad's favourite toothbrush would help to black ashere to the plastic better.
Nice! Two people have mentioned this now. Thank you! Defo giving this a go on the stormcast starter set. “This one weird trick” etc :)
Awesome video again Alex. ONWARDSS 🔥
Thanks dude!!
That actually looks amazing
Thank you!!
Bought a cheap airbrush kit for priming and basing and it was worth the investment as the minis turned out great now need to skill up with the brush side of things and im dreading edge highlighting. Your video shows me how bad they would look had i tried painting without priming and a half decent brush, cheers m8 good helpful stuff
Interesting to hear - did you find a good enough compresssor for the airbrush? My first airbrush was a cheaper one and I found it more hinderance than help tbh - but I think I lament all the nonsense of cleaning in between colours etc. :D
*chuckles as he looks he thinks of the Adeptus Staticus-er-Stormcast Eternals from the AOS Introductory set he did a job on when Retibutor Armour spray primer he used was not shaken as well as he thought.*
Ended up with 5 crusty-rusty looking minis. :D
haha, StormCrust Eternals :D
Washing your sprues with water and dish soap goes a long way to prevent pooling when you have no primer.
This is good info. I’ll be trying this on the other starter set video I think!
Got my sub at "41 and I paint"I am 45 with a wall of shame, good on you for this, I will be looking forward to watching all your videos,
Us oldies need to stick together :D
Thanks, now I'll never be able to look at my thumb after a painting session without thinking about Jackson Pollock's arsehole!
hahaha - you're welcome :D
IMHO the brush is not that bad - it's better than other synthetics and to be honest it keeps the tip better than my DaVinci synthetics
No way!! Mine definitely didn’t - I felt it was way too short to hold enough paint. I wonder how much variation there is between batches?!
I started with what I think was the first primaris start painting set. I did them as Ultra Marines. The only paint I used that wasn't in the set was brown for the holsters and pouches, red for the eyes, and white for the shoulder iconography which I did by hand as I didn't understand how to use water transfers at the time.
I later picked Imperial Fists/successors as my chapter, but I still have that original trio of Ultramarines and will leave them untouched as a monument to my painting beginnings.
Oh yeah for sure - and you can always go back and paint the same marines again to see how far you've come - I wish I'd kept my first painted minis, it would have been a good laugh for everyone if nothing else!! :D - also transfers are the devil's work! I should really do a video on them but hell, I'm awful with getting them right. haha
The humour throughout the video made me subscribe =D
Ah thanks, glad to hear it - pressure's on bigtime to keep the funnies going now! :D
@@alexpaintstinythings I really need it staring my first Fantasy / Old world army when not used to the massive amounts rank and file units.
@@PanzerRanger oh yeah I'm not an army painter, so I don't envy you!! I'm more a display painter, so even a squad can ruin me!
some damp paper towels with a piece of parchment paper on top, makes a good wet palette facsimile.
Absolutely, although in the UK, parchment *may* need boiled because of possible silicone covering - I mention this in my wet palette video too - I love the DIY approach for sure, although I'm too lazy for it - I picked up the Redgrass one and it's served me pretty well tbh.
This was exactly my experience this year... after many years away from tabletop games I wanted to paint some Eldar guardians and bought a citadel starter box (the one with some colors, a brush, clippers and a tool for removing sprue)... it was so frustrating to try to do edges with that sad brush... in the end I had to buy so much more than originally intended. ...Nice work here with far less tools!
Thank you - yeah I'm planning a video on "what you actually need to start off" so that people get a better idea of the investment - it can be an expensive hobby (although I guess it odesn't HAVE to be) but knowing what that investment is ahead of time can help people I guess. Out of interest, did you stick with it, or did the experience put you off?
Great job for a starter set mini
Thanks! I guess my years of painting has helped. I sort of wish I could go back and try it as a complete beginner too!
I picked this set up as my first, I've painted one marine so far and really happy with my result.
The only additional thing I had was a DIY wetpad along with some different brushes that I already had laying around. The quality of which are probably about the same as the starter brush anyway.
I don't think me having more paints would of helped much, it would of made it more complicated and overwhelming for a complete novice.
Overall I think the set is pretty perfect for its target market.
I agree - although I do think a better brush is still something they could be less cheap about - you CAN get cheap, better brushes, so I think they should be exploring how to get a nicer brush in the pack just so people are not put off by that. - glad you're happy with your marine though - keep at it! Do you think you'll get into the hobby for painting or for gaming, or both?
@@alexpaintstinythings All valid points, if GW would take feedback from both veteran and novices alike, I'm sure they could create a truly amazing set.
I'll definitely be sticking with it. It's great fun. Though I'll no doubt stick to just painting, rather than playing.
@@mikeyp4690 GW... Take feedback??... haha - good one :D - I'll crack the jokes eh? - seriously though, they should take feedback on, but the way the company has grown in the last 5-10 years I'd say they're a whole different beast now.
@@alexpaintstinythings Ha, did my noviceness shine through there?
Honestly, my only dealings with Warhammer and GW would be in the late 90's / early 00's when the had a store in my local shopping mall and about a week ago when I got this starter set.
I have recently started this hobby with Age of Sigmar starter set and I'm glad I've watched this video now. I was happy with my results but not as much with the process of painting. I was thinking I must be doing something wrong because I was struggling to do the biggest details and the brush got "loose" quite fast and I also had trouble with the paint drying fast.
Sounds like you’re doing grand! Welcome to the hobby - I’d like to do the AoS box soon too!
Yah, there's no way GW wouldn't sell you everything that you need in one kit.
Right? No way they’d scrimp on brushes either, I mean why have somebody come back to the shop? :D hahaha
@@alexpaintstinythings That'd be like them saying "You know, 40 dollars is a lot for a single character mini..." :P
how this video can stay monetized is confounds me. thank you for making a shitty day at work a lot less shitty, as co-workers where wondering what i was laughing at.
I literally hate highlighting black (more zenital hightlights but edge gives me a hassle too). be it a tabard on a knight, less well kept pants on the ass of a Flesh Golem, or a black helmet. it always comes out like the Flesh Golem had secretly snuck into the kitchen and eaten donuts and rubbed off the sugar on his pants and thought he got away with it.
And while he was there, he definitely spilled flour as well.
I think i need an Alex armed with a wet palette to guide me in the darkness... literally... because black pants. drybrushing works, but only if you dont have other colors next to the black that doesnt want the same highlight, stipling is what i try... (thats the sugar) and feathering has been attempted (thats the flour).
hahaha, you know I'm not sure it is monetised to be honest - I'm not that well known yet. One day!!
Yeah highlighting black SUCKS. Your best bet is to find a paint brand that will do a number of "nearly black" paints - Both Vallejo Model Color and AK Interactive have a few - and order them dark to light, working up to smaller points - It takes a while, but it doesn't require blending or stippling, so you can paint black highlights AND keep your sanity, which is nice :D
@@alexpaintstinythings yeah i recently picked up army painters new fanatic series both black to white and same but with a blueish tint. we will see.
and i do hope you get monetized! i will be checking in if not for painting, for the vocabulary.
and the lo-fi asian music is spot on soothing. perfect.
@@JonasPeltomaeki Ah nice I've heard good things about the Fanatic series!
A spray primer if you CAN 😁 pun intended ? Love it!
Great content and bants. Criminally under-subscribed channel.
I agree - a real deft of subscribers up in here. I suspect I need to get some more "how to paint [x]" videos in for the algo.
@@alexpaintstinythings "WARHAMMER THE WARHAMMERS IN 24 HOURS!"
This one weird trick Warhammer doesn’t want you to know!! I’ve got all the clickbaity titles ready to go yeaaah :)
How the hell do you have less than 1000 subs? A tragedy 😢 Keep up the great work and im certain youll see success
Great video. Relaxing bgm was a nice touch
Ah thanks. I never know if it’s too much or not. I sometimes assume people would rather have their own on but long periods of silence feel a bit odd! :D
GW loves giving those beginner models a good pegging. Unfortunately, it often ends up a dissatisfying and painful experience. Lots of gaping holes and big peg small hole moments.
Push fit models are heresy.
Could not agree more. Down with pegs! :D
Good video, had me laughing the whole time. Liked and subbed
Thank you! Glad to hear it :)
I was going to watch this with my kids but i don't want them to hear swearing. I'll try to catch the video on my own.
Yeah it might not be entirely kid friendly!!! :D
FOOking class video haha loved it
Thank you! :D
lmfao, just posting so u feel all warm and fuzzy inside ;)
haha, thanks mate - every comment warms my cockles!
bloody love inbetweener-paints-warhammer.
haha! :D
3:27....nice lol
Worsted painted?? That's better than anything I've done 😭
Aw, no! Well, practice will help you improve for sure - I've been painting for years now, so I think I often (and perhaps wrongly) expect more from my own skills.
I love synthetics because they are cheap, I am cheap, and I don't do really detailed stuff. But man do they ever hook. I have been screwed by this trying to paint Guilliman for a challenge, as well as trying to do fine stroke work
So, I heard recently that you can get them to unhook by dipping them in hot water - how hot, I do not know, for how long, I do not know - but I was going to see what happened with the starter brush if I tried it at some point - it'll get mentioned somewhere in a video if it works, let me tell ya!
@@alexpaintstinythings I look forward to finding out if it does, because brush soap and conditioner has mixed results for me
@@euanthompson Ah, interesting - soap i've always been fine with - conditioner I've nto used (but have some wishlisted to try out soon)
I subscribed because firstly, you're Scottish like me, and secondly, I just bought this set after returning to 40K (which I probably dropped after 2004).
Ah brilliant. Welcome back to the hobby - let me know how you get on :)
Considering this set as a total beginner, but with some better paints.
A better brush will serve you more than better paints but a silver and a brown paint will be useful too :) good luck!
@@alexpaintstinythings Awesome thanks. Started my equipment list with your video suggestions.
@@HazzR8 Let me know how you get on!!
I actually finally started building and painting with the previous starter kit that had assault intercessors. Man, it was a slippery slope.
Let me guess, you're now thousands of pounds in debt, and Warhammer own half your soul?! :D
@@alexpaintstinythings Well I have a 4.5k space marine army, 2k Guard, 2k Eldar, 3k Orks, and many random miniatures I just liked. Then don't get me started on brushes, paints, oh so many things on the way down that slope.
Haha good to hear it’s not just me with the addiction!!
I don't know how you got that first mini to look so good, I had such a hard time with a starter kit that i didn't even finish one mini before giving up.
Perseverence and luck I think :D Thank you!!
I used to paint and play a bit back in the 90s. Looking forward to watch all your videos and get back into it.
I think i will avoid this kit.
Back in the day they used to have a catalogue with all available miniatures. Do you know if they have somthing like that now, im struggling to find one. Subbed
Thank you!! So the warhammer website is where to go for everything they do now, it’s not the easiest to navigate but the days of the catalogue are sadly gone. Feel free to reach out if I can help :)
Wow…now I really have self esteem issues with my own skills…
Aw no, that's not my intention here - I guess having been painting for years I hold myself to silly standards with this stuff - keep at it, and don't let my flippancy put you off! :)
😂 worried about kiddies using an blade as he swears like a trooper.
hahaha, I do like a peppering of irony throughout my videos :D
Im thinking about geting a paints + tools set , black primer and some kolinsky brushes to start, what paints do you recommend for space marine army?
Awesome! Welcome to the hobby. This will depend on what chapter you would like to paint. Ultra Marines are the blue lads but there are many others too. Assuming Ultra Marines I’d suggest a light and dark brown (for leather and pouches) a silver (for gun parts) a grey (for edge highlighting black) a light blue for edge highlighting the blue and nuln oil wash (which is a black shade) - that will get you a bit further than the few you get in the starter set :)
How does the winsor and Newton sable brush hold up? I always wanted to try them, but $40 a brush is a bit pricey
For me it's my workhorse - I find they last long enough to make them worthwhile, provided you take care of it - brush soap will help in that respect. I'd say because they're all hand-made you occasionally get a duffer, but I've never not been able to get a refund when that happens - just keep the brush, reciept and tube it comes in to show people. The "good to duffer" ratio has been better with these than any other high-end brand too - so definitely worth the investment in my eyes (I speak a little to this in my brushes video) - I'd say in the last couple of years people have felt the quality waning, and many people love Artis Opus as a solid alternative, but my first full set of Artis Opus were awful, I had to refund the entire lot so I guess the lesson is, your mileage may vary wherever you go, but if you get a good W&N Series 7, it's just glorious! :)
Love the video I’ve wanted to paint these and get into w40k not sure my eyes can see so well these days (im 54) any tips?
Magnifying glasses for sure - they're cheap on places like Amazon, and make a big difference - if you already wear glasses, you can buy ones that clip on too - I wear them for most paint jobs now just so I can see the details better. Apart from that, a good light will make a big difference too - you'd be surprised at the clarity you can get with a solid brighter task lamp - something at the 2,200 Lumens mark. - My recommendation is give it a bash and see how you get on - don't be afraid of messing it up :)
Is quid equivalent to a pound like how we say buck to refer to dollars in the U.S.?
Yep - a quid = £1 :D
Did you buy this from the warhammer store in glasgow by any chance ? 🤣 seen they had this set on sale the other day
I didn’t, but most have it in stock. It’s a big product for getting new people into the hobby I suspect.
Another quality video Alex. You sir are tremendously humourous 😆😁. One question would the results be cleaner and more vibrant using a white first coat of thinned paint? Then a coat of the blue followed by a wash of Agrax or a darkened blue (with the black) mixed wash? Then clean up the base coat of blue with the original blue + some lightened blue + the white. 😊
Thank you! I try :) - good question too, vibrant, perhaps - although I'd say "lighter" more than "more vibrant" just since the vibrancy might not be as affected as you'd expect - The benefit of course with the black basecoat is that it lends itself well to shadows, recesses and things that your brush won't touch - so under the gun, in bits between the arm and body or insides of shoulder pads - if you base (or even prime) with white, then you're going to have those stand out a fair bit and would need some serious recess shades to help dull them a bit. I do like your thinking though - the approach sounds reasonable - especially if you're keeping with the black, THEN going on with white, then blue over that.(the white, then blue, then washing, then blue again, and lighten) - it would defo give more variation in colour. All of that said, it's defo more time consuming - my time spend on each marine was about 1-1.5 hours, and I suspect that would be upped a fair bit with further techniques. :)
Clearly missed opportunity to use the gw brush again on the 2nd and 3rd marine after its tip was fu... ehm... enhanced... by the texture-paint after each marine.
Haha I was trying to get better not worse but maybe there’s a hilarious video opportunity there :)
Bronze looks underwhelming compared to gold or 2nd ed yellow. The shaded technical paint looks great though.
I just started getting into warhammer recently after playing roguetrader and I ordered my first figure to paint and i feel like i went to hard to fast but well see how it goes. I got the Boss Snikrot.
There is no "too fast" with Warhammer haha - especially if you're playing orks!! - I'm working on a "what you need to get started" video as we speak so that should be out in a week or two, so it might help :)
@@alexpaintstinythings awesome look forward to it!
and *please* do yourself a favour and dont buy those extra hobby supplies from GW directly.
Yup. There are so many amazing independent producers of paint, brushes and hobby supplies :) - if possible always support your FLGS!
Wouldn't recommend natural hair brushes to newbies. They won't take care of them properly, especially with them using washes, so it'll be a waste of money.
That’s an interesting take. I agree with you, to a point - I think it’s more an age issue though. Newbies to the hobby who are not too young will understand, but perhaps kids would need to work with synthetic first. That said, I picked up some Kolinsky Sable brushes for 3 quid each at a recent scale model meet up and honestly for the price I’d say you could afford to waste a few learning the basics. Also, I use natural hair to wash with and it’s not been an issue - but I absolutely get your point. I guess it’s maybe more a question of age, dexterity and willingness to learn. :)
Ok so first of all these kits are for new hobbiest and not experianced people, and by showing that you can paint a model to a decent standard with what you get proves that you do not need a lot if you got the talent.
However this product is not there to help improve peoples hobby, its a start... let that sink in so you can understand.
100% of peaple can not paint well when they start, so there is no point having a set that has all the brushes and paints they need.
Having a cheap and simple brush and some few basic paints is enough for people to test the waters and then to expand on.
Also, you don't hav to prime every single model to have it look good. I been painting for 15 years ever since I got into 3rd edition and there was many times I could not prime my models because it was raining or I ran out of primer and the shop was closed.
look everyone, the keyboard warrior is here.
I think we can give the beginners a better experience - I’d say more chance they’ll stay if they enjoy painting. I feel like this sort of thing is why some people end up losing interest in the painting side of the hobby.
I get this is for beginners, and to let them dip their toes, for sure - and yes not for me - but I was curious to see what was possible with the set :)
Also agreed you don’t need to prime but it makes a huge difference IMO