Is it really that simple? My back wheel has a "Formula DC-142" 12x142 (thru axle). When I went to my local bike shop they told me that it is not possible to fit an 11s cassette on it... very sad, 'cause I already had purchase everything...
Are there 9 speed free hubs without spacers? When I took off my 9 speed cassette I didn’t manage to see any spacers, so does that mean I have to change my freehub if I want to upgrade to 11 speed?
Strangely my Shimano manual for my 11s cassette said that you should use the spacer on the freehub body. I don't use it so that the lockring has more threads to engage with
11s Shimano road cassettes exists that are meant for a 8/9/10 freehub body, ex. CS-HG700-11. You'd spacer those. And MTB 11s cassettes fit on 10s freehub bodies as well.
Hey mate, I just did exactly what you did with 8 speed to 11 speed cassette (upgrading to Ultegra R8000) but for some reason my gear will not go up to the largest cog. I have adjusted the barrel adjuster and just not working. Any thoughts?
Your cassette and derailleur may not be compatible. Derailleur cages (The thing holding the pulleys) typically come in SS or GS sizing which accommodate different max and min sizes for cogs on the rear cassette. Other troubleshooting ideas could include your limit and b tension screws not being adjusted properly.
But what are the implications of upgrading to an 11 speed? Do i need to also get an 11 clicks shifter as well? I use a 7 speed cassette at the moment and want to upgrade to either 10 or 11 cassette. My biggest worry is will I need to also change the shifter. In Botswana, changing these two is not very far from buying a new equivalent bike in terms of costs.
Excellent video. Thanks sharing. I want to switch from 8 speed to 9 speed cassette. Other than the chain and shifter, is there anything else that i need to change like derailliure or some other parts? thank you for your input.
@@fendipakeen7295 you need if the Rd don't fit 8 speed or 9 speed like 6 speed Rd it can't be with 8/9 speed cassette but 8 speed Rd can handle 9 speed
I bought elite suito trainer which has 11 speed cassette on it pre installed, my bike is 8 speed specialized alley, is there any way I can use it on this trainer? Please help please
Does it work for MTB too? I have an old MTB with Shimano 3x8 and I'd like to upgrade to 1x11, will the 11-speed cassette fit in the freehub of the old wheel which now has an 8-speed cassette? Is it just a matter of removing the spacer too?
The free hub is designed for 8 speed cassette so you can't fit a 11 speed cassette inside. You will have to either get a new wheel or get a 11 speed freehub
Because the spacer is not the only thing that's done to allow more gears. The gears are closer together (and the chain will be thinner) to save some space for the extra gears.
Agreed with previous comment. In no way you can fit road group set cassette like 105 on old 8/9 speed free hub. There’s simply not enough thread on the lock nut. I was recently converting to grx group set and had a choice to go with 10sp 2x system or 1x with 11sp cassette SLX or XT. You can fit them as they have recess on the back allowing largest sprocket to move closer to the spokes.. Just to say, I really enjoy watching your videos as they’re really helpful. So thank you for great content.
I also have that same probĺem with my old shimano 600 8speed,upgraded to 105 5800, i cannot use the 11speed cassete because the freehub is short. Is 10s possible?
You fuckin ledge I tought I was gonna have to change the freehub. I’m going from Claris to 105 and you’ve just saved me a headache. 👍
Beautiful, i was worried now am going to upgrade to 11 speed
Thanks for your excellent instruction. Straight to the point! Much appreciated.
Thanks for the video. It answered a lot of questions I had.
thanks! you always have a video with the answer, that im seeking.
You're such a noble man, thanks for making this video. I ask this question. 👍🤗
Not a problem! hope it helped you out!
It helped me, now I got to find bike shop that will do it. Thanks 👍
Great video
Wow. Ok so simple. Thank Sir for your assistance on rhis
Thank for the info, I have mavic aksium wheels with 8 speed cassette with spacer so probably work
Fantastic. Thank you. Much appreciated ❤🎉
Very helpful right to it thank you
Is it really that simple? My back wheel has a "Formula DC-142" 12x142 (thru axle). When I went to my local bike shop they told me that it is not possible to fit an 11s cassette on it... very sad, 'cause I already had purchase everything...
Are there 9 speed free hubs without spacers? When I took off my 9 speed cassette I didn’t manage to see any spacers, so does that mean I have to change my freehub if I want to upgrade to 11 speed?
Yup
Strangely my Shimano manual for my 11s cassette said that you should use the spacer on the freehub body. I don't use it so that the lockring has more threads to engage with
11s Shimano road cassettes exists that are meant for a 8/9/10 freehub body, ex. CS-HG700-11. You'd spacer those. And MTB 11s cassettes fit on 10s freehub bodies as well.
Enjoy watching your videos, they are informative and well made. Thanks 👍🏻👍🏻 Just woundering though is it always freezing cold in your workshop? 🥶
A question you didn't present was is the axle spacing 135mm or 142mm? If the 8sp was on a 135mm would it still work?
Hey mate, I just did exactly what you did with 8 speed to 11 speed cassette (upgrading to Ultegra R8000) but for some reason my gear will not go up to the largest cog. I have adjusted the barrel adjuster and just not working. Any thoughts?
Your cassette and derailleur may not be compatible. Derailleur cages (The thing holding the pulleys) typically come in SS or GS sizing which accommodate different max and min sizes for cogs on the rear cassette.
Other troubleshooting ideas could include your limit and b tension screws not being adjusted properly.
Thanks that was very helpful
hello very good video really then it is possible to convert from 9 to 11 with the same bushing right?
But what are the implications of upgrading to an 11 speed? Do i need to also get an 11 clicks shifter as well? I use a 7 speed cassette at the moment and want to upgrade to either 10 or 11 cassette. My biggest worry is will I need to also change the shifter. In Botswana, changing these two is not very far from buying a new equivalent bike in terms of costs.
You will need to. You'll also need a new derailer
Of course you do. You'll need a new chain, chainrings and the derailiurs and shifters.
It increases how much % of performance from 8s?
Hello, Are all Shimano 105 group-sets, 11 speeds?
How about the shimano claris hub? can i convert also to 10 speed or 11 speed?
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Best the best , thanks
Thanks perfect
Do you need to then fit a larger chain and adjust gear cabling to make the gearing all run correctly?
You'll need at least a different shifter up top to allow for the 11 speed indexing, as well as appropriate front chain rings and chain.
Can i convert my 9speed to 11 speed. Don’t know yet if it’s cassette or freewheel.
Does this make the bike faster?
Excellent video. Thanks sharing. I want to switch from 8 speed to 9 speed cassette. Other than the chain and shifter, is there anything else that i need to change like derailliure or some other parts? thank you for your input.
Rd and chain😊
Also shifter😅
@@Gab-wr5di Thanks!
No, u dont need to change the rd. Just the shifter,chain , and sprocket. I did itnin two of my bike
@@fendipakeen7295 you need if the Rd don't fit 8 speed or 9 speed like 6 speed Rd it can't be with 8/9 speed cassette but 8 speed Rd can handle 9 speed
I bought elite suito trainer which has 11 speed cassette on it pre installed, my bike is 8 speed specialized alley, is there any way I can use it on this trainer? Please help please
Remove the 11 speed cassette and fit the 8 speed cassette with a spacer behind it!!
Free To Cycle thank you
Does it work for MTB too? I have an old MTB with Shimano 3x8 and I'd like to upgrade to 1x11, will the 11-speed cassette fit in the freehub of the old wheel which now has an 8-speed cassette? Is it just a matter of removing the spacer too?
If you have a spacer behind the 8 speed cassette then you can remove it to fit the 11 speed cassette!
Can you fit an 11 speed casset (11-28) without changing the 7 speed shifter? .... my bike is a 7 speed road bike 11-28T.....
No
I'm changing my 8s to 10s, should I change my click shifters to 10?
Yes!
Can I use 2 mm spacer instead of the Shimano 1.85 mm spacer?
Yes!
I have a shimano 600 8s when i upgraded my groupset to 105 5800,the 11speed cassette wont fit the shrmano 600 8speed why is that?
The free hub is designed for 8 speed cassette so you can't fit a 11 speed cassette inside. You will have to either get a new wheel or get a 11 speed freehub
@@yongkaifeng7818 do you have to change shifters as well?
How did he go from 8 to 11 by only removing 1 spacer and not switching free hub?
Because the spacer is not the only thing that's done to allow more gears. The gears are closer together (and the chain will be thinner) to save some space for the extra gears.
Agreed with previous comment. In no way you can fit road group set cassette like 105 on old 8/9 speed free hub. There’s simply not enough thread on the lock nut. I was recently converting to grx group set and had a choice to go with 10sp 2x system or 1x with 11sp cassette SLX or XT. You can fit them as they have recess on the back allowing largest sprocket to move closer to the spokes..
Just to say, I really enjoy watching your videos as they’re really helpful. So thank you for great content.
CS-HG700-11 will fit. 11s for 10s freehub bodies.
EditioCastigata thanks for that info, it certainly resolves my other problem. 👍
I also have that same probĺem with my old shimano 600 8speed,upgraded to 105 5800, i cannot use the 11speed cassete because the freehub is short. Is 10s possible?
8 speed to 12 speed
how about 12 speed? Does it work the same?
u mean 11s road cassette on 8s freehub
Is the bike made in China?