How Neglect Can Impact Brain Development - with Bessel van der Kolk, MD
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2023
- Childhood neglect is one of the more insidious forms of trauma that a client might experience.
Not only that, but it can have a unique impact on brain development that researchers don’t often see with other types of trauma.
So in the video, Bessel van der Kolk, MD will get into one specific neurobiological consequence of neglect and share how you might approach it with your client.
You can read the full blog and more from NICABM here: www.nicabm.com/neglect-and-th...
It’s hard to gain pleasure from being with people, if all you have ever known is being ignored or criticised in fearful and toxic family situation.
This is my life. I get more pleasure from music films culture art.
We have all these wonderful trauma-based therapies that can address what happened to us, but none that can address what did NOT happen to us.
True! If it helps, Jonice Webb focuses on emotional neglect, I've found her somewhat helpful, but I'd say she looks mostly at more well meaning families, and doesn't cover high intensity families. Seems to be a case of cobbling together resources aimed at each of the symptoms...
Don't agree really. In talking therapy you can explore grief, loss, things that you didn't have in your childhood, learn acceptance, get perspective. Not saying it can fix everything.
@@pushthetempo2in the video he actually says talking therapies do not work as it's a bit of brain development that is missing, rather than perspective taking.
@lumailisa yes I know. The distinction I'm trying to make is you can address these issues in the therapy room to understand them at least and explore what you didn't get, then you can go about trying other way to fix them or cope better.
My experience, and many others I think, is you don't know what your childhood was missing cos you don't have anything to compare it too or it's just your normal or you are in denial or repressed or hidden in shame. Just getting past that shame and thru the anger and to acceptance is no small task.
A therapist can help you with that. Then you can move on to changing your lifestyle.
This is the type of holistic approach I think Bessel endorses.
@@pushthetempo2 Tallking therapy has value and yes you can learn many things but you won't get to the part of it that is in the body and takes a very long time and a therapist who works in transference to get to the emotional part of the trauma. Bottom Up therapies such as EMDR, Somatic Experiencing get to the brain stem and limbic sy
stem. But yes talk therapy has value.
I was looking at Harlow's monkey studies. He tried rehabilitating them, and found that it could be done. Never completely, because they never displayed natural monkey behavior, but they could be socialized to accept attachment. Considering that he was able to do that much with monkeys who had never seen another monkey, it was quite an accomplishment.
What I took from that is that maybe people who were never allowed to form a secure attachment could be rehabilitated, but they'd need to have a securely attached person to re-parent them.
This is spot on ❤
@@pushthetempo2 the problem with trying to get this from a romantic relationship with a securely attached person is that it relies on a lot of luck. First you have to find one and then you have to hope that they don't run away because they see insecure attachment as a red flag, and understandably so.
Also the window for unconditional love is limited to early childhood, so you can't really make up for missing out on that. We can never become the people we would have been if we'd been dealt a different hand. All we can do is make the best of the hand we were dealt and try to improve it if we can.
I think you're basically correct, but the re parenting would be from yourself, with another person. Basically you, giving yourself the unconditional loving and acceptance that your parents didn't, instead of creating a codependent relationship where the other person does everything to accommodate your needs.
@@alvodin6197 I think of the securely attached person as necessary to model secure attachment to someone who doesn't know what secure attachment looks like. I agree, the reparenting has to come from yourself. I believe it's possible, but it would take a lot of insight and commitment.
I think we should take better care of each other because there are not enough therapist to this bunch of traumatized beings.
Not just enough therapists, not enough time is spent with the therapists to properly heal. As all the greats of trauma therapy say, the real healing is connecting with other people, and your own body, not therapy sessions themselves. This is confusing for many people. They think they need 25 k trauma program to heal.
@@alvodin6197 healing is a mistery what we have in the terapeutic set is the safety and trust we don't find in other sets. The are not much tolerance with imperfection and mental illness. That why I think we have to be nicer to ourselves and to one another.
Thank you for addressing this issue.
Very interesting, thank you!
Engaging with others....well, it does make a lot of sense now that I used to enjoy Aikido and still love horseback riding. Plus interacting with horses in general.
Thank you 🙏
I love this. Which training has this training on Neglect? I have watched many of your trainings.
Hi Susan, the blog post is: www.nicabm.com/neglect-and-the-brain/
However, you can find more information similar to this in our new program Mastering the Treatment of Trauma. You can purchase the program or sign up to watch for free!
You can find the program on our website, nicabm.com
Wish you were my opa lol 😊 I didn’t know my grandparents in the Netherlands much. Family was broken up because of War trauma
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I envy those dogs I see in insta. They thrive so fast...
Me too
@@gracelewis6071 🩷💕
Relational therapy is what can help. it just takes a long time
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Tango dancing here I come! 😊
Agree, but the child's brain can be damaged by infection in the mother to be too ( scientifically known). Neglect can sometimes be a ping pong reason for gov body not to address the real medical issue and what/who is the cause of. The consequences, ill health in mother, may lead to needs of gov support which for financial reasons cannot be provided. The outcome is the systemic state neglect not helping the mother with medical conditions to take better care of newborn & children under certain conditions, which can lead to a cycle of neglect without state's physical and financial support. In this case, the problem is the state system without a lack of resources and misleading medical policy, not the family.
I will forever clap for others until it's my turn 🎉🎉
Try Dr. Jonice Webb
An expert in CEN.
Oh, I believe it...bad news for me!
Receiving genuine love is the best solution. So if you are in this situation where you didn't get that growing up, try to develop yourself into an individual who others can care about - i.e. be honest, trustworthy, authentic etc.
The trouble with humans is they're complicated, and often not able to give what a growing child needs.
Prove this. Critical period is an old theory based on broad generalizations, animal studies and single case studies ex post facto.
I'm gonna go with the esteemed psychologist on this one, rather than student account4354. No offense
We can't do that human beings for ethical reasons, but you already knew this, right? We have a lot of evidence that there are critical periods for brain development of many areas,.in fact, most professionals won't disagree that age 0-7 is a critical period of brain development or human beings. Where are all these people who dispute this?