How to pour and then straighten A Nudura or other ICF wall.
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2020
- Today we're pouring a Nudura ICF basement. I'm going to show you guys how to set up your string line to straighten the walls as you pour them. Let me know in the comments if this is how you guys do it or if you have a better or different method.
Thanks for watching
Bondo 👍
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Great tutorial. Really like learning new things. Thank you Bondo and crew.
Your welcome 😊
Awesome job , very well done , pros 👍
Gonna start building my house in a couple months. Thanks for all the good info.
So far you’ve really simplified this process. And by the way... I like the way you treat your workers.
Timothy thanks bud. I try and keep things simple as I can. Ya me and the boys get the work done and try to have fun also. I find if you treat your guys good they will work much harder for ya. Also they know when we have to hustle because concrete is drying fast and I just change my tone of my. voice and they know. Lol.
Thanks so much for sharing your hard-earned knowledge. I'm about to start my own ICF (Faswall) build and appreciate the information. The string line method you use looks great.
So glad I could help Jason. I have many videos should help you out bud. 👍😊
Your knowledge and expertise is greatly appreciated. Thanks.
I appreciate that!
Great ICF pour video. ICF is great - probably the future given the conundrum with wood prices
Hi Ron, excellent videos so far, thank you for making them clear and accurate my friend. Hope all is well.
Great job
Thank you sir 😊😊
Thanks for sharing the info. I plan to build my own house soon and the info is super valuable .
Awesome Mike I’m glad the videos are helpful. It’s alot of work to put them together and the nice comments are really appreciated. Merry christmas 😊👍
Hey Bondo, I'm trying to decide between superior walls and ICFs. I wasn't impressed with ICFs until I started watching your channel. Its clear you think its the best way. Can you PLEASE do a nice long informative video comparing all different kinds of basement walls? It would get tons of hits. I cant seem to find a good (non-biased) resource on that. Just a bunch of builders saying that superior is the way to go (because its done in a couple hours and its easier for THEM). I know you used to do block, then there's normal poured walls, ICFs then superior walls. Thanks in advance brother
Thank y’all so much!!
You bet Clay 👍
Bondo, @ 13:50 nice wet t-shirt contest shot. Good examples, thanks. Helpful in the project I'm doing (edit 9/22/22) I can't believe I first watched this 2 years ago. I'm still trying to get my project done. You are a great and continuing inspiration Mr. Bond. Thank you for all your videos.
Ya buddy it was a little hot. Lmao 😂
Hey Bondo.
I used the nudura icfs for my house as well. Full basement and upper level. Icf to the roof line. I built it me and my dad built it and poured it.
I have infloor heat in basement and forced air in upstairs.
Built in 2004.
Very efficient.
Love your videos.
Thats awesome. 👍 I bet it's a super efficient house. Propably nice and toasty in there with the in floor heat in the basement. Glad you like the videos 👍😊
Nudura is a great product but word is getting out and people are NOT HAPPY with them price gouging the public. They need to lower the price back to reasonable prices and not get greedy. Great video Ron 👍👍👍
Thanks Thomas I agree and I think the lumber prices are ridiculous also.
I just started watching your channel. I guess later I'll see how the electrical is run.
I just do the concrete. I did leave a sleeve through the wall for the electrical wire. The election will do the service panel.
@@bondobuilt386 Thanks for replying
Hey Bondo,
This looks amazing and fast.
Where did you do this job?
Have you been using Nudura for a while?
In terms of cost , is there a big difference compared to CMU blocks?
Thanks for sharing!
Terrific job showing some key details - helpful how you come back and talk over some of the footage. Must be a handful pouring and directing video at the same time... Question: what's your preferred method of attaching face ledger board? (think this job just had a board on the top of the walls.)
Hi Ned. 😊 we have never built ICF past the basement so I never have. I am a foundation builder so I switched from concrete blocks to ICF. Thanks for tghe feedback yes Its quitew alot of work making theses videos buddy. 👍
Good job right there straightening,but haven't seen how you plumbed them!?
Do you recommend using the Nudura braces, or can you use something else
LOVE THE TIPS. I GOT A QUETION ? YOU DID TALK ABOUT FILLING TWO COURSES FIRST THEN TO THE THREE QUARTER THEN STRAITEN. WHAT IS THE MIX OR SUMP AT AS IS IT DIFFERENT WITH EACH LEVEL OR WHAT THE TEMP IS? AFTERR I GET DONE WITH SCHOOL I WANT TO DO MY OWN HOME SO I AM IN LEARNING MODE.
Is it possible to build the ICF on top of a slab? In my area the weather is mild but I want the other benefits of ICF. Can I bow the wall to the outside and bring it in straight with the jacks as the slab is in the way?
What size rebar do you use in the window lentils? Do you use prescriptive engineering or are your prints structurally engineered? Also feel like I've watch a couple videos where you move right into concrete. Upstate New York doesn't require any inspections?
Great stuff. I appreciate that part on using the string to line things up. What brand or company do you use for the brace and adjustments?
No problem 👍 Nudura bracing system.
Have you ever used the Nudura window buck material?
Is it worth buying?
Or use 2x12 wolmized?
I have seen people using LVL material…
Great videos Ron - thanks for the work you put into them! Questions: How far in do you start the walls tilted before pouring the concrete? How do you make them tilt in - by have the Nudura bracing pull them in? Thanks!
Thanks. I keep them in about 1/2" Yes the bracing holds the wall in.
Since you like to push, not pull, when straightening. How do you get the opposite bow when stacking the blocks?
Hey Bondo, I really appreciate your videos. My biggest complaint now in 2022 is the cost of building materials; ICF blocks are extremely over priced considering the technology and availability of raw products. I have no gripes with paying for skilled labor but materials in this modern age are outrageous.
I know you work a lot with newderrna blocks are they worth the extra cost over fox blocks. I plan to build in north east West Virginia in about a year and a half. Thanks for you educational videos.
Your welcome and I think if cost is quite a bit cheaper go with Fox. If the same price use Nudura. They both will work fine but Nudura is nicer to work with and a bit stronger to hold the concrete in without bulging a bit when we vibrate the walls.
Best video I’ve watched on this stuff👍
We are solid masonry builders in New Zealand. I’m pricing up some builds in this system but have never done it before . Could you help me out with some time frames ? I see you had a team of around 5 guys , how many days did it take to complete up to the stage on the video ? I’m just trying to get a gauge on hours per build.
Thanks
Hi there. Thanks for the comments. IT usually only takes me three days to put a medeum basement together. Thats after the floors are poured. Thats with three guys. I always grab extra guys for the pour day. 👍
Check out some of my other videos they will help you alot. 👍
If your doing monoslab with ICF exterior walls can you put the bracing on the outside walls so you dont puncture the poly under the main slab.
Yes you can if there is room. we use 2-1/2” tap con screws they no where near the plastic.
Fun to watch as fellas informative . Where are you located? We want to build an ICF Nudura home in SC.
We are in upstate New York. Thanks. 👍😊
When you are doing just a basement, do you usually trim the lugs off the top of the form, or can you trowel the concrete over the top lugs?
Hi. We just trowel to the top. It shows at the end of this video. If you leave lugs on top and bottom you will gain 2" in head room in basement.
Hey bondo, don't know if you said this before, but how do you tied the string on that wall ?
Hi Bondo, keep up the good work, I love your work and your videos. I'm hoping to get started on my house this year, hopefully I can import some nadura from the US, otherwise I'll just have to use the European market for icf, Greetings from Rhodes Greece.
Well thank you sir. 😊 I really appriciate the nice comments. I'm sure any quality ICF will make a nice wall for you. Are you doing the entire house ICF or just the basement? What brand ICF do they offer in Greese?
How many yards of concrete did this project take? Thanks
Where are you located Bondo, would love for you to give me a quote on doing my new house foundation using ICF blocks. Love the videos, keep up the good work!
Eric thanks man. 👍 We are located in Mexico New York. Its 45 minutes North of Syracuse. I usually don't have to go far from home for work. I can hardly keep up with it around here. LOL
I realize Im quite randomly asking but do anyone know of a good site to watch new movies online?
@Tyson Daniel Lately I have been using FlixZone. You can find it on google =)
Do you prefer the Nudura over other blocks?
What kind of mix do you use when your pouring and what slump do you aim for. Guessing your vinrating with something as well
We usualy run 3500 lbs mix with pea stones. I like a 6" slump If you watch more of my videos u will see we always internally vibrate. 👍👍
I'm doing my whole house to the roof right now. What concrete mix do you use?
Awesome. 👍 We use 3500 lbs concrete with a 3/8 pea stone for aggregate. 👍
How many inches are the lintels above the big windows?
Looks great thank you for the detailed explanation about the sting lines. What would you say would be the longest wall you would pour at one time? If the wall was 7 courses totaling 10’6”
your welcome. 😊I have personally done one that was 64 feet long. it was 6 courses high. that was no problem at all.
Any advice on pouring a wall that approximately 115’ x 35’?
@@clayhuser7230 Got any more info for me? Is it 2 walls or 4 and how many courses? What size blocks you using? Is this a basement? Below grade?
Thanks
Bondo
It’s a house foundation below grade with one foot of the wall above finished grade. It’s a total of 7 courses of the nadura blocks. It has an attached garage. The overall length is 115’ by 35’ at the widest point. It has several juts in it also. Need any other info? Might that be able to be poured in one shot?
Clay there's no reason you can't pour that all at once. The only thing is that will take a lot of bracing. You brace about every 54" what i did was house first and then garage and stoops later. I backfiiled and compacted where the other footings t off the taller walls. That's going to be deep! You're going to have piles of fill like the rockies. Are you sure of where water table is?
How do you anchor the braces when you’ve poured the floor before the walls?
ruclips.net/video/L5eqaYiBzlo/видео.html Hi David. we use short Tap Con fasteners into the floor. 👍
I saw you didnt use horizontal braces in the windows n door? Is that what those scabs of ply are on the edges to grab a plastic web?
Yes exactly. We put some more lumber bracing in there also. Not sure it’s on video.
Thanks.
been 20 years but I used to pour the windows first.
Yes sir Bob 👍👍
Did you add anchor for the plates??
We sure did 👍👍
How do you stay so calm when the mix is flowing? I’ve only done a little flat work with buddies over the years and I get stressed out! And it’s not even MY job.
I been pouring concrete for 30 years Jim. I just pick up the pace as needed. LOL Thgese walls are not as bad as a big floor in the hoit sun. That can make me nervous sometimes. 👍😊
Have in ever poured a Lite deck floor over a basement ?
Just over a porch for a root celler. Done that with Q decking a few times. 👍
I Am wondering why you do not use seal gasket on the windows and door sills? I know you need it on the top plate even if it is pressure treated wood.
Because the concrete is cast right to the wood so it’s not going to leak any air like the top would from little gaps. You can caulk the edge if you wanted too. 👍
@@bondobuilt386 correct me if I am wrong but does the sill gasket also prevent dry rot?
@@corneliusstruik5699 not sure but I think if your concerned use some peel and sick membrane on your door and window bucks on the concrete side. Stick it right to the wood. It will last longer then without it I’m sure. 👍👍
Unbelievable how many people don't know how to use a block. On their string line.
I know. lol
I'd heard that Nudura didn't recommend internal vibrating unless necessary. They suggest external vibrating only if at all possible, because of the possibility of bulging in the lower courses. I think the theory is that it's better to have minimal air from external vibrating than it is to take a chance on lower bulging. Did I hear that wrong or is there something to it?
Yes you heard that wrong.
Always vibrate, regardless of what anybody says. I am a retired structural engineer, and every time I was called out to foundation walls with honeycombing or concrete issues, turned out the placer never used a vibrator. Their standard claim was "I've been doing this for 25 years and never had a problem" After hearing their bs for countless of years I would reply, "If that's the case you've been doing it wrong for the last 25 years". Also, you don't want to run the vibrator too long in one spot, you can get aggregate segregation. Just give it a shot for couple of seconds when it is in one spot, or keep moving the vibrator up and down. Be careful not to get it caught in ties and rebar, sometimes they have to be cut free which does not make the rental guy happy, until he reads you the fine print in the rental contract. Guess who picks up the tab for a vibratorless vibrator. Cheers from Canada.
Thanks Pete I totally agree we vibrate all the walls we pour. 👍👍
I always wanted windows below grade so I could see how the worms live. :)
Lol that would be cool. 👍
how are you signaling the guy to pump or stop pumping?
He is standing by me with a remote control. 👍
What happens to the inside forms? Surely no one wants a basement of foam?
The inside gets drywall screwed to the plastic studs impeded in the foam blocks. 👍👍
Is Nudura stronger than blocks ?
Absolutely. Way stronger. I was a block mason for 20 years before I got into ICF.
Blocks always seem to crack Rick.
I didn't see the vertical rebar...?
Yes we had it in there every 18 inches.
That would have been a biscuit crime
Yup LOL 😂
Hello, what is the distance of the rebar vertically and horizontally please.
!8” both verically and one bar in every course. 18” courses.
@@bondobuilt386 thank you, so 18 inches is the distance of a rebar from one rebar to the next vertically and horizontally
@@nasam789 yes it is for a 9 foot tall basement.
Thank you, I am not a professional contractor like yourself. So can you explain what yiu mean "course" please
@@nasam789 the rebar schedule would be different for a taller wall that was to be backfilled with dirt vs a wall that was above grade. Nudura has a guide on there web sight as to different walls and rebar that is needed. I’m usually doing a 9 foot basement so that is a aggressive rebar schedule but it’s good to have a little xtra strength.
Where is your companies location,state ?
Upstate New York.
Where are yall located
Howard we are in upstate New York. 30 minutes north of Syracuse. 👍
Oh wow. I. In Alabama, looking to build icf house
How thick should one go on icf
@@howardjohnson3237 We generally do 6” walls. I have done some 8” and 10’ as well where i wanted extra support. Nudura has a PDF on rebar placement for wall thickness as it relates to wall height and depth of backfill for a basement application. Its on there web sight.
OSHA would not be happy with you, The bracing system does not comply with planks width and no railing, but a nice job.
Why so many people? It seems that you can do the work with fewer workers saving money for the homeowner
William I like having extra help there in case I have a problem. I eat the extras cost for the extra help not the customer. I been short handed to many times in my life to try and save a few hundred bucks. Thanks for the feedback I always appreciate feedback from you guys. 👍😊
have you ever looked at hollow core concrete beams and ICFs makes putting in a floor much easier and saves alot of money. I did it 7 years ago Wooden floor would have been $45,000, hollow core was $15,000 and completed in 3 hours.
Wow I will have to check that out. No I have never tried that type of floor system.
Thanks Robert. 👍
Hollowcore runs about $20 a sq ft. That would be a 750 sq ft floor. You're saying a wood floor for 750 sq ft would run 45k? I call BS.
@@onjofilms The advantage is the labour cost, and at $40 a sheet your lumber is through the roof. PS also don't comment definatively on something you have no experience of I build a 4500 Sq foot building 4 years ago when lumber was cheap and still came out ahead
Great stuff. I appreciate that part on using the string to line things up. What brand or company do you use for the brace and adjustments?
Great. glad to help. We use Nudura brand ICF bracing. Its nice stuff. The store we get the blocks from rents it to us.
@@bondobuilt386 : what is the rent for a week?
@@squeekhobby4571 I'm not sure I own mine buddy.