@@mar.smk12 absolutely nothing XD je and ma mean I and my, but the rest is just random sounds that are supposed to sound French. Although he does use actual words at some point XD when he says something that sounds like "blé de la blé" when trying to speak French on stage. Doesn't mean anything and is grammatically incorrect but it can be translated as corn of the corn 😂
Joey the character on a show without Friends makes me uncomfortable. This scene looks like it could be from a sitcom Joey starred in during a friends episode.
0:55 But in the episode of Friends where Joey's grandma visits, he does say a few lines to her in Italian, and presumably understands her when she's speaking Italian too.
I think he probably spoke basic Italian but his grandma at one point spoke to him in English ('my big fat Joey star!') so I don't think he actually understands her outside of simple stuff.
It's not the most consistent series in history to be fair. Bruce Willis played a character in it but in earlier episodes Joey and Chandler mentioned Die Hard. And even worse, Crazy Eddy, Chandler's roommate plays a completely different character in Joey
Bruce was not acted as bruce Willis in friends.. friends team(i mean production team) like bruce Willis and they get him in friends as special guest actor.other than main characters and their relationship someone with special portrayed same role over and over again like gunther,tag,david,miss bingaling😁 etc. Other than that all are just recurring actors,not recurring characters.
Actually they speak a rare italian dialect, south part of Italy, near Crotone city, the woman said "staggianda battastanza" which means "blabbing foolishness" (reffering to the girl who asked for middle pizza parts), and Joey says "pra bere carototto, toto" which approximately means something like "she's a little drunk,goofy", if anyone was wondering that would be the closest translation. The last "Tadaggio" part would mean something like "you be careful!". Thats it.
Absolutely amazing how good writing (Friends) and bad writing (This) makes all the difference in the world. You can even tell Matt LeBlanc was trying to make these sentences sound real but couldn’t.
The characters of "Friends" and other successful sitcoms are funny because they all interact together, one person's little quirks interacts with someone else's etc. On their own, these characters often aren't that funny.
Joey was one of the two probable shows that could’ve survived as it’s own spin-off maybe if it’d been done differently: added a couple of former Friends cast members now and then, or as apart of the main cast. Now we all know a spin-off show of just Phoebe would be great, seeing her get into all kinds of crazy adventures and shenanigans, a show with Phoebe AND Joey could’ve been great too, all this had the other cast members not decided to turn it down.
Oh yeah, I agree. Even just few phone calls with Chandler would have been enough to spice this up. And it would have somehow updated us all about the others too. Miss chance unluckily.
Nah. This entire idea just sucked. Had they did something entirely different from Friends like center a series around Joey being cast in a different soap opera and made the show about that soap opera- maybe they could have had something different and special. This just seemed lame and basic and too easy.
@@adamnoobmaster7490 dude, they had an episode where walden climbs up the roof and throw a gorilla tantrum and alan goes up to calm him just to nail walden's mom, then in other episode he nails her because she wanted to buy his vote in the walden loves bridget inc board meeting so walden wouldn't invest his money on shitty apps and instead invest it on his mother's monkey foundation It does have some good moments but most of them are either bad or weird, and it's not even walden's character's fault, the writers just seem so lazy after charlie left, take a look at jake, he would have some hilarious child/naive but now it's just a pothead, like they decided to make him stoned all the time so he can still make stupid comments but it just doesn't feel right, alan gets way more shittier, he literally faked a heart attack so people would treat him nicely, etc... and if you watch previous seasons, you can tell they were going down even with charlie
0:56 Yes is true, as an italian I could say that... And this is so funny!! Anyway, the last word that Joy said is "Adagio!" it means various things, but in this scene the meaning is "Be careful! (of what you're saying!)"
God, that's so forced and unfunny. Stop trying to dig 50 feets under the ground to find some plot twist jokes. If you have to think hard for it, then it certainly won't be funny.
@@jjryan1352 LMAO, that guy has some serious repressed hate inside of them. Joey is consensually known as one of the worst series of all times. Dude just stop trying to diss on Friends becauss you're butthurt that it got so famous.
@@etamlak8199 I'm not a mental midget like you who cared how many people watched what, or a sheeple who relies on others to make conclusions. I'd put Season 1 of Joey up against any selected "best" episodes of Friends. Joey can be rewatched. Rewatching Friends episodes is like a form of torture.
@@breem8750 Absolutely nothing 😂 "Adagio" can be used as an adjective (roughly "slow") or as a verb (adagiare, first person, "lay down", transitive). T'adagio is pure nonsense since none of the form can be used the way Joey drops the line.
Mamma mia he's great!!! Absolutely killed it on the Pronouncation as well! .. Ma porco il dio che bravo che È!!! Non aspettavo un livello di italiano così alto da un attore americano
Absolutely, if your mamma is Italian, you also speak it or you are dead, not to mention her parents, your nonni, are also, so that's triple the pressure.
The Thumbnail for the channel got me... I thought it was a hair on my screen and kept trying to wipe it off in my feed LOL - had to come here just to say that LOL
Silvio didn't kill her, she survived and became an informant. She got a new identity and was supposed to testify against Tony, Carlo wasn't the rat at all.
Gina :"Staggendo abbatastanza". Joe:"Prabbere caro toto toto". Joe "T'addagio!". Italian translation in impossible. As he says Michael they are just pretending to speak it misprononuncing some words but it's hard to understand if they are mispelling those words as actors or if they are jokes of the screenplay. Gina:"*eating enough!"Joe"*drinking expensive it all...all". Joe"Keep quiet!(with intimidating tone)'
Always thought it was stupid for her to play his sister in this spin off, when we already saw all of his sisters on friends, and she wasn't one of them.
Actualy there is an ep in friends where joey sis try to tell him that she is pregnant , and that sister wasent there where they showed all of his sisters !
@@mekhilefanis1442 actually watch the friends show again where Joey's sister Gina (played by k.j. Steinberg) is in the actual episode, but then the same sister Gina (played by Drea) is in the spinoff. Any other comments?
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According to Chandler, he knows how to swear in Italian.
The italian words he knows are only swear words u meant
Every Italian person can curse in Italian, regardless of if they’ve ever had one single lesson 😂😂
@@aaronscarpa7469 maybe because they're italian?
One is stronzo which means asshole😂
Haha..I think that's enough...
N according to his resume...he knows French toooo....😂
Le fa plu...
In another series:
Phoebe: Je m'appelle Claude.
Joey: Je ma flu flee.
My favorite episode 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I'm French and it's fucking hilarious
@@daniellac.7588 does it means anything in french? 😂😂
@@mar.smk12 absolutely nothing XD je and ma mean I and my, but the rest is just random sounds that are supposed to sound French. Although he does use actual words at some point XD when he says something that sounds like "blé de la blé" when trying to speak French on stage. Doesn't mean anything and is grammatically incorrect but it can be translated as corn of the corn 😂
@J Dog I hope the flu to flee from Claude. 😄
Me poo poo
better than his french 😂
Yeah😂😂😂😂😂
haha!
Definitely 😂😂
Toota la froota
MI POOPOO!
The punch line should have been "Va fa Napoli!"
no it should've been GORLAMI
I was waiting for that!
Gazzata Malanga
@Pranav Bahl Joey. It lasted like 2 seasons or whatever than was canceled. Joey doesn't work without his friends.
@@thechoripankiller what is GORLAMI
Joey the character on a show without Friends makes me uncomfortable. This scene looks like it could be from a sitcom Joey starred in during a friends episode.
it’s from a spin-off of friends called joey
No, it's from a spin-off of Seinfeld called Chandler
Yeah from Joey tv show.
@@lilkaz95 are you guys talking about the Ross Gellar documentary?
I was freaking out. I was like wait what I missed something 😂
0:55 But in the episode of Friends where Joey's grandma visits, he does say a few lines to her in Italian, and presumably understands her when she's speaking Italian too.
I think he probably spoke basic Italian but his grandma at one point spoke to him in English ('my big fat Joey star!') so I don't think he actually understands her outside of simple stuff.
It's not the most consistent series in history to be fair. Bruce Willis played a character in it but in earlier episodes Joey and Chandler mentioned Die Hard. And even worse, Crazy Eddy, Chandler's roommate plays a completely different character in Joey
Bruce was not acted as bruce Willis in friends.. friends team(i mean production team) like bruce Willis and they get him in friends as special guest actor.other than main characters and their relationship someone with special portrayed same role over and over again like gunther,tag,david,miss bingaling😁 etc. Other than that all are just recurring actors,not recurring characters.
@Kip Kruse Just beacuse its a tv show doesnt mean the story cant be consistent. Its just lazy writers fault
@Kip Kruse Lots of TV shows have continuity, what's your point?
what non italian speakers hear: italian
what italian speakers hear: sims trying to comunicate.
This is so true
Ahahahahahahahahhaha
Infatti non ho capito
@@Deadpool_chimichanga tranquillo fra non sei l’unico 🥲
Concordo!
I was really disappointed Chandler didn’t visit Joey.
Too busy with tapping Monica
That is one of the reasons this spin off sucks
Rehab.
None of the friends even made one single cameo or even their existence was ignored
@@Crochetique424 Lets pretend this serie is not canon
Actually they speak a rare italian dialect, south part of Italy, near Crotone city, the woman said "staggianda battastanza" which means "blabbing foolishness" (reffering to the girl who asked for middle pizza parts), and Joey says "pra bere carototto, toto" which approximately means something like "she's a little drunk,goofy", if anyone was wondering that would be the closest translation. The last "Tadaggio" part would mean something like "you be careful!". Thats it.
Aaah ok, così può avere un senso allora...😅
Thanks for the translation 👏👍😄
Been waiting for years for someone to translate what Joey and his sister say here. Grazie
No way. That’s awesome! How you know this
@@DDGFROST-eo6qw By lying to you, none of that is true. They're speaking gibberish.
Absolutely amazing how good writing (Friends) and bad writing (This) makes all the difference in the world. You can even tell Matt LeBlanc was trying to make these sentences sound real but couldn’t.
The characters of "Friends" and other successful sitcoms are funny because they all interact together, one person's little quirks interacts with someone else's etc. On their own, these characters often aren't that funny.
Friends is good but the laughter track ruins it
@@kbhprinsesse Joey and Pheobe are the only two who are funny outside of the show.
@@thespatulaa no
@@thespatulaait’s a live audience every time.
Joey was one of the two probable shows that could’ve survived as it’s own spin-off maybe if it’d been done differently: added a couple of former Friends cast members now and then, or as apart of the main cast. Now we all know a spin-off show of just Phoebe would be great, seeing her get into all kinds of crazy adventures and shenanigans, a show with Phoebe AND Joey could’ve been great too, all this had the other cast members not decided to turn it down.
Oh yeah, I agree. Even just few phone calls with Chandler would have been enough to spice this up. And it would have somehow updated us all about the others too. Miss chance unluckily.
Apparently David Schwimmer did direct one episode of Joey so there WAS a potential opportunity for Ross to show up. Missed opportunity indeed
@@nates.9744- I wonder which episode(s)? There were only two seasons.
A show won't survive by certain actors appearing only now and then. That's not enough.
Nah. This entire idea just sucked. Had they did something entirely different from Friends like center a series around Joey being cast in a different soap opera and made the show about that soap opera- maybe they could have had something different and special. This just seemed lame and basic and too easy.
Its wasn't nearly as funny as friends but still better than 2 and a half man after Charlie left.
Maybe but two and a half man (when charlie left) are still not bad at start but later it was ridicilous
@@adamnoobmaster7490 And final episode is not making a sense
I hear Charlie became a bad bad hoe though. Last episode was fun in a strange way.
@@adamnoobmaster7490 dude, they had an episode where walden climbs up the roof and throw a gorilla tantrum and alan goes up to calm him just to nail walden's mom, then in other episode he nails her because she wanted to buy his vote in the walden loves bridget inc board meeting so walden wouldn't invest his money on shitty apps and instead invest it on his mother's monkey foundation
It does have some good moments but most of them are either bad or weird, and it's not even walden's character's fault, the writers just seem so lazy after charlie left, take a look at jake, he would have some hilarious child/naive but now it's just a pothead, like they decided to make him stoned all the time so he can still make stupid comments but it just doesn't feel right, alan gets way more shittier, he literally faked a heart attack so people would treat him nicely, etc... and if you watch previous seasons, you can tell they were going down even with charlie
I might be the only one who enjoyed the show without Charlie
It's funnier when you realize Drea de Matteo is actually of Italian descent and speaks Italian fluently!
No it's not.
@@DesertScorpionKSA nO iTs NoT.
She is too hot, I mean looks at those hips.
As an italian I’m laughing so hard 😂
Juventus, eh? 😂
@@kiwin9488 😂😂😂😂Si
@@afrini 🤚napoli, good luck playing with barca
what did he say haha
@@kiwin9488 Grazie!
Lost my nail in there!
Monica: First time?
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Ohh bruhh, you nailed it 😄
Haha thanks! :)
@@user-mv1ch3iq7r thanks :)
I never even knew they has a spin-off. The set is no where near as impressive as the original
“Tataggio! VaffaNapoli!”
Ci vuole Benigni che me la traduce sta scena 🤣
Io basita 😂
Still can’t believe Joey had a spin off, I now remember it being on as a kid this just jogged my memory
So that's where Adriana was placed by her Witness Protection Detail
Resurrected and placed, yes.
Christopher and Tony will never find her now.
She dead bro!
Lmao
Came here just to verify if that was Adriana lol
Joeys french- Blaaablulableh li blu blaaah blehh .
"Ble de la ble de blublabeh"
1-blah
2-mleh
3-mooh
4-soh
5-clah
Li pu pu
Oh Deh foof!
He speaks French and Italian, impressive.
Thank goodness that Episodes came along.
His "Brother" is in a fantastic show...Royal Pains" Great show!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nephew
Evan R. Lawson, CFO of HankMed
Nail in the lasagna huh? Wonder where they got that one from 🤔
LOL... The episode where Monica catered for her mum and she called it "pulling a monica". So unoriginal lol
Sweeney Todd?
Olive Garden ;)
@@tommytimp LMAO
Oww oww ow I remember thattt..GODDD..😂😂😂
Judging by the comments, I think I'm definitely one of the only people that loved this show. I even bought the DVDs! *FRRRRRRRRRRT*
I didnt know this show exist until now
I absolutely adored this show! I truly never understood why it was nixed.
I love the bonding of Gina and Joey 💓
0:59
Joey: ADAGIO!!!!!
And suddendly a savage Mozart's music starts.
I legit forgot that this show exists. Never watched one episode but I don't think I'm missing out lol
*JOEY IN ENGLISH: "...HEY, HOW YOU DOING?"*
*JOEY IN ITALIAN: "...EHI, COME STAI?"*
I cannot believe this show had more than one season.
It had 2 seasons
I don't care if this show wasn't as good as friends.. joey tribianni will always be one of my fav.. and matt le blanc is still a prince
I was so worried about the fact that they weren't saying nothing, then the guy explained
Ended up here right after Italy's win in Eurovision! Complete coincidence!
Horrible song.
-Sta gianda bata stanza!!
-LOL! Prampere caro To tò! To tò!
Ma soprattutto...
-T'ADAGIO!!!
Chi più di te può trascrivere un labiale
@@LorisEmanuelCianni
Complimenti! Il tuo commento ha ricevuto un cuore da Wurfenkopf ❤️
@@Wurfenkopf grande. Mi hai fatto passare parecchi momenti lieti, grazie. Ciao
Joey is just Incredible at whatever he does....❤️❤️
0:56 Yes is true, as an italian I could say that... And this is so funny!!
Anyway, the last word that Joy said is "Adagio!" it means various things, but in this scene the meaning is "Be careful! (of what you're saying!)"
Thank you
This show is not that bad on its own. As long as it didnt have that "Friends" shadow casting on it.
Joey Tribbiani didn't have the makings of a varsity athlete.
😝
Joey speaks italian in the same way he speaks french 😂❤
Non è italiano, sta parlando in dialetto calabrese
they really just pretend to XD XD 🇮🇹 what they say means nothing. and they are only just pretending that thing is a lasagna.
@tradie 4theladies yeah parties where there is actual lasagna.
@tradie 4theladies Wow! You must get invited to lots of parties.
Giovanna Bellantone Yea but I dont think you hear the guy at the end saying that they dont actually speak Italian they just pretend to
Michael Ammons it was a joke
Holy cow, guys, chill. It was just a comment about the fake Italian, nobody killed anyone.
Plot twist: the frozen lasagnas Monica’s mom had as a backup were made by Joey’s sister.
God, that's so forced and unfunny. Stop trying to dig 50 feets under the ground to find some plot twist jokes. If you have to think hard for it, then it certainly won't be funny.
Nobody realised that Joey was teasing Paulo along with Ross when they couldn't understand his Italian.
Then he says he was Italian.
I only clicked on this video to comment that I'm very upset that I blew at my screen, then realized that was your profile pic
I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THERE WAS A SPIN OFF WITH JUST JOEY IN IT!!
You aren’t missing anything lol
This show is so much better than friends.
Unpopular opinion: I actually liked this show
me too
I mean I didn't like like it but I don't know why it gets so much hate
What show was this?
@@kevencarrion5241 Joey.
@@kevencarrion5241 It's kind of spin off of Friends, it called "Joey"
Dude i saw your channel image and thought it was a hair on my phone😂
SAME BAHAHAH
Joey Tribbiani speaking Italian.
-Gina; "stagianstabanNNnnza.."
-Joey; "Tranberecarotondo tondoooo.."
-io ; "CosaczZZz?"
OMG ur channel icon🤣🤣 I wiped screen so hard🤣🤣💝
This show was also occasionally a bit funny. It wasnt altogether very bad
A lot, lot funnier than Friends ever was. Very well acted.
@@jjryan1352 thats gotta be the hot take of the decade
I want to see a show on Gina And micheal 😍
@@jjryan1352 LMAO, that guy has some serious repressed hate inside of them.
Joey is consensually known as one of the worst series of all times. Dude just stop trying to diss on Friends becauss you're butthurt that it got so famous.
@@etamlak8199 I'm not a mental midget like you who cared how many people watched what, or a sheeple who relies on others to make conclusions. I'd put Season 1 of Joey up against any selected "best" episodes of Friends. Joey can be rewatched. Rewatching Friends episodes is like a form of torture.
His character seems like a parody of joey.
*"T'ADAGIO!"* is one of the most menacing thing you could say to someone...
What does it mean
@@breem8750 Absolutely nothing 😂
"Adagio" can be used as an adjective (roughly "slow") or as a verb (adagiare, first person, "lay down", transitive).
T'adagio is pure nonsense since none of the form can be used the way Joey drops the line.
Joey's "va fa Napoli" is the best though. It literally means "Go Napoli yourself"
There’s not one part of this show that would even get me to crack a smile.
.... and they wonder why this show didn’t last
What show was it?
I don't think anyone wondered
Alex Trebek’s Pancreas JOEY.... his spinoff from friends . I watch a couple episodes. I didn’t like it
well said: "they're just pretending"
everybody in the comments section being like “they said nothing” bruh that’s the joke they’re just pretending to speak italian 💀💀💀
I am so in love with Drea De Matteo.
Mamma mia he's great!!!
Absolutely killed it on the Pronouncation as well!
..
Ma porco il dio che bravo che È!!!
Non aspettavo un livello di italiano così alto da un attore americano
When this show started I was hoping for a Fraiser quality spin-off but instead got After Mash.
OMG. I'd forgotten about that train wreck of a dramedy.
It was better than AfterMash. Wasn't great, but better than that.
@Caleb Mayfield You miss the point of my comment.
Well it was better than Friends.
@@jjryan1352 Not in a million years buddy.
Guys as Italian I can confirm they didn't said anything in Italian, lol
cause it's not italian. It's a dialect that is spoken in Calabria and they are the only people who can understand that
Stanno parlando calabrese
"staGiambadastanza" "gramberegarotontotonto"
Technically is "stagiandapatastanza" 👌
I'm italian and I didn't understand a single word. So yeah, "They can't speak Italian, they just pretend they can" 🤣
This is my first time ever seeing anything from this show, I watch Friends religiously but never saw this. Wow. It blows ass.
LMAO THE HAIR ON THE PROFILE PIC THING ACCTUALLY GIT ME I WAS LIKE *why this not coming off??*
"They can't speak Italian, they just pretend they can" LMAO
Stanno parlando in calabrese
im italian, and i can confirm that he doesnt speak italian
Those... Are just letters with random order and speaking with an Italian accent 😂
dovevi fare anche questo 🤏🤏🤏 ma che dici Joey ?😂😂😂
The guy on the right, he's on a show called Designated Survivor, is he not? Certainly looks like him.
yes it is lyor
@@a.c.hopkins429 Aaye. Thought so. Thanks for clarifying. 👍
He was also in Road Trip. "Not enough cock and balls!"
The amount of Gabagool energy in this video is "Ova heeeeere"
This makes me feel so bad... it is like the life after all others leave the apartment...😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Isn’t the nail the Monica piece?
Joey's mom is Italian, he should speak Italian
Well yeah.. but his joey
bruh I mean it doesn’t really work like that
@@luxi1216 if your mom is Italian and has spoken Italian to you since day one, then yes, you would be fluent in Italian!
Absolutely, if your mamma is Italian, you also speak it or you are dead, not to mention her parents, your nonni, are also, so that's triple the pressure.
Joey's whole family is Italian
Your profile pic made me keep blowing off the hair on my screen 😂
Hey it's Adrianna La Cerva!
Aka Drea De Matteo 🙂
Pretty sure Silvio took care of her awhile back.
@@lucass3412 She got resurrected from the dead.
I saw this as a recommendation. Saw your thumbnail and thought my screen had a hair.
So this is the dimension in which if Adriana would have actually just left Christopher and moved to Los Angeles.
Too soon, man, that's one of the most heart-wrenching deaths in TV history
@@trallalla8078 lol buddy it happened like back in 2005. 16 years ago.
ahahah! I have been trying to remove that hair for a minute now. That's funny!
Who else remembered FRIENDS scene where joey and phoebe talk French??😂😂❤
Ikrrr😂😂💯
The Thumbnail for the channel got me... I thought it was a hair on my screen and kept trying to wipe it off in my feed LOL - had to come here just to say that LOL
why, god, why is this not on netflix?
Joey sounds like a minion. Very funny😆
It's good to see Ade's doing well in heaven
maybe In this show she won't get clipped by a member of Bruce Springteen's E Street Band
Silvio didn't kill her, she survived and became an informant. She got a new identity and was supposed to testify against Tony, Carlo wasn't the rat at all.
wot mate and they decided to have her be another sister in the Tribianni family
When RUclips recommended me this video, I thought it was a piece of hair on the profile picture.
Joey can speak Italian...swearing...counts as speaking...right? 😂😂
I'm fluent in Italian, love the gibberish 😂
I'm Italian but I assure you Joey didn't say anything, just random words ahha
Cause it's not italian. It's a dialect that is spoken in Calabria and they are the only people who can understand that
Parlano calabrese
That thumbnail though. Ratatatata!!! Ratatatata!!!
This is so weird
Gina :"Staggendo abbatastanza". Joe:"Prabbere caro toto toto". Joe "T'addagio!". Italian translation in impossible. As he says Michael they are just pretending to speak it misprononuncing some words but it's hard to understand if they are mispelling those words as actors or if they are jokes of the screenplay. Gina:"*eating enough!"Joe"*drinking expensive it all...all". Joe"Keep quiet!(with intimidating tone)'
cause it's not italian. It's a dialect that is spoken in Calabria and they are the only people who can understand that
Always thought it was stupid for her to play his sister in this spin off, when we already saw all of his sisters on friends, and she wasn't one of them.
Actualy there is an ep in friends where joey sis try to tell him that she is pregnant , and that sister wasent there where they showed all of his sisters !
@@mekhilefanis1442 actually watch the friends show again where Joey's sister Gina (played by k.j. Steinberg) is in the actual episode, but then the same sister Gina (played by Drea) is in the spinoff. Any other comments?
@@jamesdesomma3639 no im not talking about the spinoff , im talking about the show !
@@mekhilefanis1442 she was played by another actress on the show
Peter Griffin had way more credibility with his "bibidi babidis" xD
Ill have the fifth piece known as mom. Dayum.
Today years old when I learned how to spell Joey’s last name
i dont feel comfortable seeing joey with different friends 🤔
What was this show?
@@martinalombardi07 ah yes my favourite show
*j o e y*
0:55 basically Hispanic Texans when speaking Spanish
I am not Italian, but i am very familiar with the hair and other stuff in my mom's lasagna😩.
I wish they would put Joey on Netflix! Or even Hulu! 😄😄
Its on amazon prime video
@@yakshdodia8770 thank you!
ngl this was funnier when I was younger
Im NOT Italian but they are speaking properly