How to Use Guitar Pedals as Effects in Your DAW instead of Plug Ins

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  • Опубликовано: 22 дек 2024

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  • @creativesoundlab
    @creativesoundlab  Год назад +1

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  • @aLoudSi1ence
    @aLoudSi1ence 7 лет назад +410

    Nice video but would have been good had you shown it practically.

    • @exenye
      @exenye 6 лет назад +21

      exactly. why didnt he do that its like 1 minute work.

    • @edwardbrown561
      @edwardbrown561 5 лет назад +8

      I seriously thought I had accidentally skipped forward, he basically described it was possible and have fun. He didnt even describe what the blue box was, reamp or DI? Instructional for inserting a effect loop using a interface is oddly hard to find

    • @m3lted540
      @m3lted540 5 лет назад +1

      I agree

    • @TheRealSorav
      @TheRealSorav 4 года назад

      I already get it for the most part, the other details like input output vary depending on your DAW. With that being said it seems like this is geared towards more intermediate sound engineers rather than beginners. That's probably why he didn't go into much detail

  • @ron3165
    @ron3165 5 лет назад +49

    You explained everything thoroughly & well but I just couldn’t follow you without seeing exactly what was going on. Nice video though! 💯

  • @Neverdefinedbystudios
    @Neverdefinedbystudios 8 лет назад +19

    I've used a tube screamer for parallel saturation on vocals, acoustic guitars, and drums. It can really help to add some warmth to the tracks!

  • @AlanKuAudio
    @AlanKuAudio 8 лет назад +10

    I once put a snare track through a Tube Screamer into a cranked Blackstar HT-5 and man that gave it some balls! Had to compensate for latency but it was well worth the experiment.

    • @creativesoundlab
      @creativesoundlab  8 лет назад +1

      Sweet dude! I love hearing about stuff like this!

  • @ryanmelvey8764
    @ryanmelvey8764 4 года назад +3

    have been running a mixdown of multiple tracks through an overdrive pedal, then heavily compressing it. this provides a "glue/grit" layer that i mix back in. works great for a unified/warm vibe

  • @darlingimscared
    @darlingimscared 6 лет назад +23

    As a guy getting onto the electronic music scene after years of being in a band this is the way forward for me, plug-ins are inherently better for simple things I get it and when I have the money for a decent reverb I'll pay it but that's just the fact, plugins that don't sound souless are few and the same price as boutique pedals at times with no re sell value. I'll definitely be experimenting with my pedals down the line.
    Also something to keep on mind is the guitar pedal industry is highly competitive so they spend a long time coming up with blends of sounds to make a pedal interesting, straight away my boss tera echo comes to mind, I barely used it live just for small parts some gigs but it could be a really interesting addition through an FL studio track, at the end of the day no plugin would sell sounding like a terra echo hah

    • @joelonsdale
      @joelonsdale 4 года назад +3

      I have to challenge the idea of plugins being soulless. Add a tape plugin with some flutter and wow dialled in, add a distortion plugin and then whack it through some book-ended EQ and you have a unique-to-you plugin delay or chorus or whatever. I love practical effects save use then when budget allows, but rarely do they provide something you can't fake well enough in the mix!

  • @bannanasqueektoy
    @bannanasqueektoy 6 лет назад +3

    I thought you only need reamp to convert mic > line level aka low-z > hi-z... why do you need the reamp box to go from an interface's line level out into pedals? Isn't the line-out of an interface the same impedance as any keyboard out or regular line level instrument that can be used with pedals?

  • @Ilicet
    @Ilicet 4 года назад +1

    Could you also hook it up to a mixer aux?

  • @Saludtotal48
    @Saludtotal48 2 года назад

    would have like to see you set it up ...still don't know how to do it

  • @TheZeSnow
    @TheZeSnow 5 лет назад +7

    Would it work if I went from my interface straight to the effect and then straight from the effect to the preamp?

  • @reginaldbraithewaite5833
    @reginaldbraithewaite5833 5 лет назад

    You've convinced me, but what in the name of the Transparent Bison Who Controls Us All is "this [blue] box"? Perhaps you could favor us with the model, brand name and/or generic category (as you did with, to use your hermetic terminology, the "direct box").

  • @kjmusic2541
    @kjmusic2541 7 лет назад +1

    I believe my Buzz Audio MIA will do this all in one, reamp and DI, but if not, it can do the reamp duty and then my interface has a HiZ input anyway. I want to use the Reecho Pro.

  • @Ale-Desafinados
    @Ale-Desafinados 7 лет назад

    Hi! great video!
    one question, It's freaking me out...if I would want to use this chain :
    guitar ---> overdrive pedal ---> daw (amp simulator VST) ---> delay pedal
    Delay should be at the end of the chain (REAMP) but... what about the overdrive? no possibility to use on the reamp section, isn't it? I think there is no possibility to insert the AMP SIM between both pedals in the REAMP section.
    Thanks in advance!

    • @creativesoundlab
      @creativesoundlab  7 лет назад

      I would say that go with it and don't fret. Come back in a couple days and see if you still like how it sounds. Give it time and it'll be clear if it was a bad idea or not sonically.

    • @Ale-Desafinados
      @Ale-Desafinados 7 лет назад

      Thank you! I just received the reamp so I'll be doing some test next week. Thanks again!

  • @dimitriskovaios
    @dimitriskovaios 5 лет назад

    I would like your opinion... You mentioned, a DI box is needed. Wouldn't a preamp with a Hi-Z input (for electric guitars or basses) be sufficient for sending the signal back in the DAW?

  • @battumusic3401
    @battumusic3401 6 лет назад +2

    The ''blue box'' is the Radial ProRMP 1-channel Passive Re-Amping Device

  • @nooneinparticular6014
    @nooneinparticular6014 4 года назад

    So this setup he is referring to goes like this:
    Sound Source > Re Amp Box > Effects Chain > D I Box > Computer Interface/ Mixer
    Is that right

  • @Guitarman01
    @Guitarman01 4 года назад

    Can you tell me the chain setup? Like Amp, DI Box, Daw, Pre-Amp and maybe some brands to look at as well. thanks

  • @unknownreasons3996
    @unknownreasons3996 7 лет назад +2

    why using a D.I box ? can you just use the soundcard preamps instead?

  • @studieslessonstheoryetc141
    @studieslessonstheoryetc141 4 года назад

    So we can’t go directly from chain back into an input that has a line/instrument switch? My Focusrite 4i4 for example has this option and I assumed was there specifically to change to line level..?

  • @mrdanjames
    @mrdanjames 8 лет назад +1

    That is a DIY reamp box. It also has an attenuator so that you can play with the level and get really creative. It's $59 plus a little soldering (took me five minutes to make). I have 3 and use them all the time! Thought that would help anyone who can't afford a radial one.

  • @danheetmann5762
    @danheetmann5762 8 лет назад +4

    I usually put a Boss DS-1 on a snare drum and screw it up, then print that and blend it in for texture

  • @analytickapsychologie
    @analytickapsychologie 8 лет назад +4

    I´m going to use guitarist's analog delay (EHX memory man, nothing special) for vocal in "half acoustic song". I tried it even without reamp box and results were quite satisfing - much warmer than digital simulations I had chance to hear and nice feel of depth in the song. I was waiting till the end you´ll show something. Maybe it would be awesome to tell us in next video your wildest idea with these stomp boxes...

    • @creativesoundlab
      @creativesoundlab  8 лет назад

      Yeah, I have been doing some work around the studio and had to make a quick video. Glad to hear you thought the analog delay was better than plug ins. It's amazing how many good effects are out there.

  • @ptowntravis
    @ptowntravis 8 лет назад +1

    yes...love it. I'm totally trying this soon.
    I did something similar couple weeks ago.
    ran a mic through a small pre amp for phantom power then into a splitter (the direct thru went into my DAW) the split (transformed) signal went to > mixing board mic input>pre fader aux send to my guitar pedals > to a DI box >pre amp >DAW.
    I mixed them in post and the vocals sound sick!!!

  • @franciscomendez8863
    @franciscomendez8863 4 года назад

    Hi Ryan, have u seen these UMC204HD behringer interfaces? These come with "insert" inputs, one for each input channel wich i guess does the same as what u were saying... Or am i sayin nonsenses?

  • @bloodlord1989
    @bloodlord1989 8 лет назад +2

    How do you deal with latency compensation from going out to hardware then back in DAW? Don't have stomp boxs, but I did use a cassette adapter for some saturation in using vintage boombox then going back in the Daw with 1/4 inch adapter. I had to guess where the audio signal should start to compensate for latency. I tried everything with latency compensation and couldn't get them to phase cancel a bit with polarity test. Worked out fine,but it is annoying.

    • @creativesoundlab
      @creativesoundlab  8 лет назад +4

      Yeah that is annoying. For me I try to go all the way out with tracks, rather than mix processed sounds with unprocessed. Depending on what I'm doing, I might play a track through without the pedals activated to get a dry track to mix with the processed. You can also play the click track through the chain, and measure what latency your getting.

    • @bloodlord1989
      @bloodlord1989 8 лет назад

      creativesoundlab
      I tried latency compensation plug ins with no luck. Can't get everything perfect with latency,but at least it sounds good and thats all that matters. but the engineer voice in my head says thats about .0159 ms off time no matter how many times you move it lol. The hand work takes time so right now i rarely use any hardware or AKA what ever is around to plug into to. If i had a console and real outboard gear i would send everything out to console/out board gear and back in DAW to line them all up without having to do all that hand work. A video on this would be great for many getting into hardware and I couldn't find anything on it for being in a situation where only a few things are going out to hardware then back in, even though it should be basic knowledge.

    • @danheetmann5762
      @danheetmann5762 8 лет назад

      Buy Sound Radix Auto-Align

    • @daleonov
      @daleonov 8 лет назад +1

      Adding some short clicks or beeps at the end of the track (or anywhere else) works pretty well for such syncing.

    • @bloodlord1989
      @bloodlord1989 8 лет назад +2

      Daniel Leonov
      Never thought of that. I could put a sine wave in one beat before the instrument/vocal starts. I'll try that out. Thanks!

  • @carlosalves4444
    @carlosalves4444 2 года назад +1

    It what be great if you actually show us with direct example and sound samples

  • @massimomarianimusic
    @massimomarianimusic 6 лет назад +2

    Hey man great video. I understood your point with the DI box, but my question is, is there any real noticeable changes with or without the DI box? Let's say I'm just sending my signal from one of my outputs on the interface to bring it back to one of the inputs and record the processed signal. Would that be considerably noticeable without having the box?

  • @christiantan7280
    @christiantan7280 4 года назад

    So the signal chain will be guitar->pedals->reamp->audio interface? am i right?

  • @HrhFish
    @HrhFish 2 года назад

    I am researching using effects pedals with audio interface for my live rig. I have just got a Macbook pro with guitar rig 6. I am using a Native instruments audio 6 interface. The reason behind this is I got fed up of carrying big amp stacks around. I have collected a lot of useful pedals which I hope to hook up. I like my Decimator for noise reduction. I have an Eventide H9 and a TC electronic nova. I am thinking of hooking up the guitar to the decimator then into the interface. The other effects I want to plug in from the out of the interface. The logic behind this is that it is less work for the Mac and I will be able to change patches and switch effects on and off live. Maybe eventually midi it all up and have my DAW change effects so I don't have to stomp on a box with my foot. I can just put everything into a sports bag and go to a gig on the bus.

  • @wkypmusic4957
    @wkypmusic4957 2 года назад

    I focus on the mixer. What kind of mixer you use?

  • @TheShazamman
    @TheShazamman 4 года назад +1

    Awesome video! Good explanation. Since most reamp boxes are mono how would you handle stereo pedals? Would you need to reamp boxes and 2 di boxes?

  • @iancaraballo9275
    @iancaraballo9275 7 лет назад +2

    Mixing Engenier Vance Powell has been using this technique for years now... he even sticks them to his effects Rack with Velcro.

  • @octaviohenrique.n
    @octaviohenrique.n 3 года назад

    Ryan, so would be that signal chain?
    Play the track you want through one of the outputs of your interface (that would be line, not mike despite the xlr cable, but balanced) than into the reamp box , the the output of the reamp (that would be unbalanced, but line level) into the pedals.
    Afted the pedals, into the input of the DI box then into the preamp (an instrumemt preamp of an interface for instance)
    What about guitar pedals into vocals? From the pedals into the DI and then to a mike preamp of the interface?
    Is that right?

  • @NJPwN
    @NJPwN 8 лет назад

    Hold on, so here's what I want to do. I have a Behringer X1204USB mixer. I want to plug a noise gate pedal into the aux send and return. Can I simply do that? Or do I need these pre-amps?

  • @g.h6871
    @g.h6871 5 лет назад +2

    Interesting video, and got me thinking about what I need for this very purpose. Thanks! Like others, however, I would have appreciated more detail. For instance, will the re-amp and DI boxes change the tone of original performance AND the pedal in the effects loop? Can this be helped? Can you run this into an interface's DI input instead of DI box --> preamp? etc.

  • @Taxagent100
    @Taxagent100 4 года назад

    Thanks. I know this is a few years old now but I was struggling with the Line level/Instrument level back into my pre-amp and of course the DI box was the solution.

  • @joramadams
    @joramadams 7 лет назад +1

    Hey Ryan, is it possible to take that high impedance output from the reamped signal back into your interface if it allows for instrument level inputs? e.g. Focusrite Scarlets
    Love your work dude, always pushes my creativity!

    • @creativesoundlab
      @creativesoundlab  7 лет назад +2

      Yes, exactly. You could, and that's how you use pedals in a vocal chain for example.

    • @joramadams
      @joramadams 7 лет назад

      Thanks heaps!

    • @setphaser
      @setphaser 7 лет назад +1

      Creative Sound Lab yeah using one of the monitor outputs, to my pedal, then back into a preamp seems to work ok. I know engineers love their DIs and seem to use them constantly "just in case" but I have 24 mono channels of different synths and drum kits, I just let the octopre s handle it, get the gain staging right.

  • @xPowerShotx
    @xPowerShotx 5 лет назад

    So how to put an analog delay pedal etc behind a distorted amp sim (so the delay wont get distorted) for a guitar running trough a focusrite 6i6 second gen? No problem putting the delay in front of everything. Problem is getting that delay after amp sim.

  • @mdr8553
    @mdr8553 5 лет назад

    How can I do this with my Steinberg UR22?? Is it possible? It only got 2 Outputs... I really hope you can help me out.. Thanks

  • @SandcastlingGuy
    @SandcastlingGuy 7 лет назад

    Couldn't figure out why my Digitech Trio was sounding so bad... and then stumbled on your video. After watching your video, I think I've got a high/low impedance thing going on. Thanks, Ryan.

  • @TheMyndsurfer
    @TheMyndsurfer 4 года назад

    Can I use an Interface instead of a DI box?

  • @mikewhiteman23
    @mikewhiteman23 3 года назад

    Can these pedals be used for only like guitar and vocals or more things because guitar is amid range instrument? Was thinking of making the big sky my main reverb for my daw would that be a good idea thanks ?

  • @dcbenitez
    @dcbenitez 6 лет назад

    Without the DI box, the signal will clip right? But what if I had all my effects in the chain in the most minimal level, would it still clip? I'll be using a Presonus AudioBox 96.

  • @ringdingdol
    @ringdingdol 5 лет назад

    isn't an active reamp box better for this purpose than passive?

  • @Yanthungbemo
    @Yanthungbemo 5 лет назад +1

    Can I substitute the DI box with a USB interface instead? (Focusrite Scarlett Solo)
    Also, for multi-effects units like the Boss ME-80 or the Line 6 stuff which have direct record, is it better to use the direct record or do I place an audio interface in between the effects unit and the computer?

  • @sagecarter2368
    @sagecarter2368 5 лет назад

    So I have a T Rex Replicator pedal that uses real tape for saturation/delay/chorus, and I’ve wanted to use it to add some tape saturation to my mixes by putting not just one instrument through it but a whole project. The problem is I only have the 1 pedal and it has only 1 mono input and 1 mono output 😰 so I’m not sure how to go about this lol

  • @percherondrone3516
    @percherondrone3516 5 лет назад

    Cool video! Did someone tried using a germanium booster? Is it good for adding some grit to a track?

  • @daleonov
    @daleonov 8 лет назад

    Exactly what I was willing to do for a while. Got a bunch of guitar pedals that I can't substitute with plugins (although I might find good VST alternatives eventually). And I don't like to record with pedals - especially for double tracked guitars since effects tend to behave a bit differently in stereo.
    BUT that also requires an interface with at least three outputs, right? And that's completely different price range from cheap 2i/2o usb interfaces :( Not sure if I want to upgrade solely for this purpose...

    • @creativesoundlab
      @creativesoundlab  8 лет назад

      Yeah, you have a good point. If your first two outputs are occupied by your left and right monitors then you'd need at least a 3 output. Of coarse you can always disconect your right monitor to feed a pedal, and use the left to monitor. It's a pain but it can be done.

  • @highpeakrecordings
    @highpeakrecordings 8 лет назад

    What a great idea. Have been re-amping essentially to get my pedals in the chain (not necessarily the amp itself). Now with a dry DI guitar track I can use my pedals and not worry about microphones and their placing, but get the effects I want on it. Top tip.

    • @creativesoundlab
      @creativesoundlab  8 лет назад

      Yes! No mics, but instead a DI. Let me know how it works out!

  • @andreaaraf6408
    @andreaaraf6408 7 лет назад

    example: daw-interface output-reamp box-pedal-interface HIZ input- daw
    is it correct, in this case, bypass the DI?

  • @johnmassengill9447
    @johnmassengill9447 5 лет назад +2

    I'm hands on, showing the connections etc... Would have been a big help.

  • @glenn7350
    @glenn7350 4 года назад

    What’s the name of the first box?

  • @jadenlueras2060
    @jadenlueras2060 6 лет назад

    What kind of preamp were you using? That’s the only piece of equipment I’m missing from this setup. Thanks for the information, great video!

  • @matschi1984
    @matschi1984 7 лет назад

    My pedals like chorus or delay all work fine even without a di box if I go straight into the interface except the distortion pedal...why? Can you help me?

  • @yydmzkz09
    @yydmzkz09 8 лет назад

    I am curious if the analogue guitar modulation pedals (such as phaser/flanger) are actually better than the plug ins? Guess I have to try it out to find out!

    • @creativesoundlab
      @creativesoundlab  8 лет назад

      Yeah, I would love to compare them, but I don't own the softward or want to spend money on it. Pretty sure the real thing smokes the emualtions, but the emulations are easy to adjust if you change your mind on the settings ect.

  • @binchsoda
    @binchsoda 7 лет назад

    Do you think I could do a chain like this?
    Guitar>Instrument in 1>line out>reamp box>instrument in 2
    Im getting really confused with all the different levels

  • @niemusic4062
    @niemusic4062 7 лет назад

    Can I use something like a patchbay to keep all my pedals hooked up and easily pick and choose which pedals I want to use at any particular time?

  • @OfMicePlusMen
    @OfMicePlusMen 7 лет назад

    So im extremely new to all of this. So i may be misunderstanding.
    But I have an interface that has line outputs (1/4"), can I just run an output to the pedals, then back into the interface? Because the purpose of the blue box you have is to convert xlr to 1/4", right? So if i already have a 1/4" output I can just run 1/4" through everything then back into my interface that has preamps built in.

  • @marcomizzoni8323
    @marcomizzoni8323 8 лет назад

    I was under the impression that when you come out of the "output" of guitar efx pedal you can go straight into the input of interface since it's a di. I've watched a lot of reamp videos and don't see any one saying to run into a di box after fx pedal then into interface. Or are you referring if your interface doesn't have that, but I don't recall running into a interface that doesn't. Thanks

    • @creativesoundlab
      @creativesoundlab  8 лет назад

      yeah, so if your preamp has a DI in the front of it, then use that. Or if you are far away from your preamp, then you can use a stand alone DI which is then a separate thing from the pre. Some interfaces have combo jacks which take both mic and 1/4 inputs which is like a built in DI. In any case, you need a DI because you are converting 2 wires into 3.

  • @namename8315
    @namename8315 7 лет назад

    If i make a loop in a looper pedal , can i record it simple by conecting the pedal to an interface?

  • @philscholes6067
    @philscholes6067 5 лет назад

    Does the impedance match using a transparent pedal like wha /whammy /volume directly into a audio Interface?
    Wanting to use these pedals with bias amp sim!
    Thanks

  • @JohnSmith-sz9bz
    @JohnSmith-sz9bz 7 лет назад +5

    Thank you so much, this information is life saving. I've been so confused trying to get my gear to not sound horrible through my computer.

    • @CallxMexLos
      @CallxMexLos 7 лет назад +2

      John Smith I feel your struggle my dude, we shall reach the promise land haha

  • @nayaleezy
    @nayaleezy 2 года назад

    dang buddy, no playtime demo?

  • @Yonatan_V
    @Yonatan_V 7 лет назад

    hey man! i didnt really understand everything.
    i want to understand how do i connect my pedals to my audio interface? through a DI?
    and the second question is-
    can i process audio that i record through the guitar pedals? i mean after it is recorded.
    i understand i can record vocals through the pedals (all though i didn't understand what the first blue box was)
    but can i "mix" recorded waves with guitar pedals?
    use a real tremolo pedal for example as a "plugin"
    sorry if im my language is not clear... im not from the states :(

    • @creativesoundlab
      @creativesoundlab  7 лет назад

      Yes you can do all of this. A reamp box helps convert line level signals to a guitar like signal, which is what the blue box does. The DI is for the input of those guitar pedal signals.

  • @kostischaveles
    @kostischaveles 5 лет назад

    Perfect! i have a question if you don't mind. Can i reamp a guitar track that i have already recorded using my sm57 + Vox ac15 + overdrive +Eq +Distortion pedals ? (no effect pedals). I want to record my basic tone and add effect pedals later in a separate track. is it possible? i already have the Radial PRO-RMP. Does the reamping box work only on DI tracks? thank you:)

  • @stevegold5249
    @stevegold5249 7 лет назад

    Hope you can help I have a Boss DD500 and an Earthquaker Avalanche Run for my synth but not sure how to connect all to my mixer... I had it working but unplugged it and bamm brainfart.... just don't want to blow it up or short out something

    • @creativesoundlab
      @creativesoundlab  7 лет назад

      First thought would be use the line outs into the line ins on a mixer.

  • @wynstokstudio
    @wynstokstudio 8 лет назад

    I use the 1818vsl interface, Littlelabs 3D phantom re-amp box DI box with a Boss GT-8 effects board and a cheap old semi broken Fender amp that only works on one setting.
    Thank you Ryan, would love too meet you in person one day. 😎

    • @creativesoundlab
      @creativesoundlab  8 лет назад

      Wow dude, your set up sounds sweet. Would love to meet you too. Where about in the world are you?

  • @jorgepeterbarton
    @jorgepeterbarton 8 лет назад

    i wish there were more inserts, aux or effects loops on low end stuff. i currently do this by panning each channel and using a monitor out... works but i have to track through stereo stuff twice, get annoying feedback often when i set a pan wrong, and have weird left/right monitoring! one side is send and other side has to be monitor.
    Used it a LOT....literally hardly any reverb plugins, i use my Space. And also do some 'dub mixing' on my memory man hazarai (its just really intuitive!). And shove things through plenty of distortion and fuzz, particularly drums and vox because i don't really have fancy preamps, tubes and transformers that i can drive to the extreme.

    • @DEPUNKTENPUNKT
      @DEPUNKTENPUNKT 8 лет назад +1

      Behringer UMC1820 is the trick! Got 8 analog Inputs and 10 Outputs plus ADAT for 199€.

    • @jorgepeterbarton
      @jorgepeterbarton 8 лет назад

      Nils Thanks, i tend to use hardware recorders personally, because i record on location a lot and have a pisspoor laptop. The zoom r16 is very popular, i've heard many pros wish something like that exists but with high end features, both inserts and top end preamps included..

  • @kjareola5
    @kjareola5 6 лет назад

    How about this.
    From Electic Guitar itself to Effect Pedal to computer and record with Guitar Recording Software.
    Is that even possible?
    Coz I dont have any Interface only of those.

  • @padmarley
    @padmarley 6 лет назад

    If you have midi capable pedals, do you need this ? Is there a way you can use midi ports of your sound card and use some kind of a plugin or software to save patches and use with DAW when recording?

    • @creativesoundlab
      @creativesoundlab  6 лет назад

      Well the whole idea is to use electric current into real gear. Sure you could pull up emulations and even Logic and other DAWs have a "Pedals" category. If it's midi, then you still have to record the audio. Some have USB which is making it act like a plug in at that point, but even some will need to be recorded through a DI box.

  • @mrdanjames
    @mrdanjames 8 лет назад

    I gate toms and distort the hell out of them. Then I blend them back in parallel. It sounds cool. You have to check the alignment and rotate the phase coming back in though.

    • @creativesoundlab
      @creativesoundlab  8 лет назад +1

      Sounds like it would sound really cool man. I love distorting stuff and blending in subtly.

  • @cloudeater7266
    @cloudeater7266 8 лет назад +1

    great video! i've seen your videos a while back and they helped me out a lot but I forgot to subscribe. did now. I have a question. If I have an instrument level input on my interface, do I need the DI box?

    • @creativesoundlab
      @creativesoundlab  7 лет назад +1

      Nope, just go in from the pedals into the DI. That's what it's designed to do, unless you want to experiment with different DI circuits. Type 85 and JDI are ones that I use and respect.

    • @cloudeater7266
      @cloudeater7266 7 лет назад

      Thanks a lot!

  • @maxrott3345
    @maxrott3345 7 лет назад

    i did this by going out from my 3/4 outputs on my focusrite scarlett 2i4 via a chinch to 1/4 jack cable and then go back into the interface with a normal guitar cable. So basically I don't use the reamp and di box and it works well. So is there any reason I shouldn't do this?

    • @creativesoundlab
      @creativesoundlab  7 лет назад

      You still need a reamp box for it to work the best way that it can. Also, you are already using a DI box when you use an interface that has Hi-z inputs on it.

  • @TheRobGuard
    @TheRobGuard 6 лет назад +1

    Hi! Thanks for a very cool video!
    I'm also interested in learning how to use this technique.
    Over the years I collected a bunch of different guitar stompboxes/pedals by BOSS and other vendors. For example, a wha-wha, many distortion pedals, a digital delay, an ensamble chorus, a tremolo, etc.
    For my "home studio setup" I use a Win 10-computer, a USB Audio Interface (AI) by Steinberg called "UR44". It has 4 "good quality" pre-amps (D-pre's) in it that equals to: 2 MIC/Hi-z and 2 MIC/Line Inputs on the card. My DAW is Cubase Pro 10.
    My question is, would I also need to have all the other equipment you mentioned, the DI-box, the pre-amp and the re-amp box? Or could I skip the DI-box at least, since the card should already provide with that "signal conversion"? Could I just connect a guitar stompbox directly to one of the MIC/Hi-z input on the Audio card itself? Or would I still need a re-amp box at least?
    I want to try this out because I hope it would open up many, new possibilites for me when recording/mixing in my home studio.
    Ty for any advice! :D

  • @bioburden
    @bioburden 6 лет назад

    Can't you run it back into your preamp without the Countryman DI so long as you plug it into the instrument input on your preamp/interface?!

    • @creativesoundlab
      @creativesoundlab  6 лет назад

      Yes, instrument input is the same thing as the stand alone DI

  • @everythingtakin
    @everythingtakin 7 лет назад

    Can I do this technique with a radial duplex. which is basically a jdi passive box x2

  • @ScottyDoesntKnow28
    @ScottyDoesntKnow28 5 лет назад

    Does anyone know if this can be done with fl Studio ?

  • @shizamza
    @shizamza 4 года назад

    REEEEAAAALLLLY wished you showed the setup so I could physically follow since so many of these words went over my head BUT I’ll use what I have. Thanks for the video🤘🏼

  • @KillTheJester
    @KillTheJester 8 лет назад

    Hi thanks for the informative video. I have one question. Is the re-amp box (making the signal unbalanced/high impedance) a way to get the best sound out of the pedals which were build for this type of signal. Does it function as a protection for your pedals/amp? What would be the difference when not using this method?

    • @creativesoundlab
      @creativesoundlab  8 лет назад +1

      This method gives you the same tone. So it's like soloing the track and sending it to the pedals. It makes it to the pedals exactly how it should sound. I've found that other methods can add noise, you can loose volume, and the tonality can sound very different. In a balanced circuit the ground is on the sleeve, where the guitar cable only has tip and sleeve. Plug a guitar cable into a balanced circuit and that balanced circuit will expect to hear the "Ring" connector as a duplicate of the tip, but it will be ground instead. This could lead to cancellation of signal and other problems that you can hear.

    • @KillTheJester
      @KillTheJester 8 лет назад +2

      I've tried some pages on this subject and there is a lot of conflicting information on this. I'm still as a beginner learning a lot about music production and I would like to try external pedal effects and re-amping in the future so I have been thinking about being the Radial box. And now I can buy it knowing why exactly I need it. It's sometimes frustrating when you buy a product and can not hear a lot of difference using it at first because your musical ear isn't attuned to it yet. Thanks for the advice!

    • @creativesoundlab
      @creativesoundlab  8 лет назад +2

      Yeah, I did a video about "Do You Really Need a Reamp Box". You can hear the difference there. I think some people can get away with not using the right equipment but the reamp box is going to work with any amp. I've also seen people plug pedals into the aux sends of a small mixer, and it worked for live, but I'm sure there was some compromise in tone.

    • @utubehound69
      @utubehound69 8 лет назад

      Rack Gear is at +4db & Stomp Boxes are lower Db right? What would you say about matching Rack FX Db output say in the Loop of an amp vs running them as Stomp Boxes which has a lower Db? Would you have issues in either of these scenarios? Thx great idea's you have.

    • @ddsrecording
      @ddsrecording 8 лет назад +2

      It's not just about dB. Unbalanced line level signal is -10 dB. Sort of like rca inputs on a stereo receiver. They accept line level, but they are unbalanced (RCA) so it accepts -10 dB. Balanced Line level is +4 which most rack gear (modern day compressors and eq's, preamp outputs, etc) are as well. Stomp boxes do not accept line level signal, whether you feed it balanced +4 or unbalanced -10. Not only that, but they are of a higher impedance (unlike low impedance line level stuff) and they are mostly all unbalanced unless its some special keyboard effects pedal or something.
      So that's the whole point of his video. It's not about "oh...well my output of my interface is balanced line level +4, so I'll just feed a lower volume signal to the pedal and it'll be fine". It's also about impedance which means you HAVE to do something to the signal to change the impedance to high impedance if you want to go into a stomp box. Then back to low impedance after that...or come out of the stomp box and then plug into a DI input on your interface instead of going into a DI then preamp.

  • @Leo_Berger
    @Leo_Berger 7 лет назад

    Or...Line out to any stomp box to line in. Why the extra boxes and converting signals?

    • @Deeplycloseted435
      @Deeplycloseted435 6 лет назад

      Leo Berger have you ever run something line level into a stompbox? If its at all gain dependent, it will sound like ass due to mismatched impedances. I use re-amp to run line level synths into guitar pedals. Some do okay with a hot signal, and some simply fall apart. Even the ones that do okay, sound better with a re-amp first.

  • @mqs9645
    @mqs9645 7 лет назад

    Does this mean that i can put a guitar amp in the signal chain and going back straight into my interface without a cab or mic?

    • @creativesoundlab
      @creativesoundlab  7 лет назад

      You need a way to get signals to the amp (Reamp box) and then you need a way to get back in (Mic and preamp). Consider that a amp turns electrical signals into real sound waves in the room...and you need a mic for that. Use just pedals....not amp needed, just use a DI or Hi-z input.

  • @artissonbeats3057
    @artissonbeats3057 5 лет назад

    Will the sandamp be good to use as di then I have a bass pedal and di for other pedals to go through or dose it not work like that,?

  • @atakandurdu6536
    @atakandurdu6536 6 лет назад

    Guitar>pedalboard>focusrite scarlett solo2 >macbook(logic pro)
    ..is that chain okey or need anything else like DI box etc.

    • @graysonwilson-cacciapalle7989
      @graysonwilson-cacciapalle7989 5 лет назад

      Not quite what he's talking about in the video, but for recording guitar that's just fine! I've never used a di box, I have the same setup as you mentioned.

  • @Bcwilderness
    @Bcwilderness 5 лет назад

    hi ryan we need a unit with a great pre comp and effects and delay im wondering about a tc unit just to break out and take advantage of my prism adda rather than plugs which sound 2d and flat in comp, just tried my 560 500 series api eq into a shelford neve diode bridge comp on vocals this way and it slayed my plug in chain of usual suspects 76 and 2a vox chain, i think it gets closer to those great records of yesteryear clearer more console like, i guess a great outboard saturation or guit pedals is the way and a reamp box, im just thinking are there any all in one units, the mind boggles its asking a lot but imagine a luder than lift off unit with drawmer or neve like saturation and an old sony r7 d7 delay verb or tape echoplex style unit in one a proper producer pack, focusrite nearly got there, i mean its 2020 they would shift a load

    • @creativesoundlab
      @creativesoundlab  5 лет назад

      Nice outboard man. I would say that part of the appeal is that pedals are a collection of lots of different things. I always think that an all-in-out box is nice, but it'll always sound better to have individual pedals.

    • @Bcwilderness
      @Bcwilderness 5 лет назад

      Wow, well I got a radial extc and tried my darkglass hyper luminal into a joyo Aquarius delay pedal, I can believe how good the fet compressor setting sounds on vocals, amazing, thanks for the idea man, an effect through one trip of good conversion really does crush just slapping a plugin on, ive spent thousands over the years getting roped into the plugin culture, spilt milk indeed

  • @daveacosta4166
    @daveacosta4166 8 лет назад +1

    is it possible to resample saved drum kits back into your daw using only an audio interface and the guitar pedal itself ??

    • @creativesoundlab
      @creativesoundlab  8 лет назад

      Yep, you can play anything you want out to the guitar pedals.

  • @maumex
    @maumex 8 лет назад

    Hi I do this but never knew I needed a re-amp box! I do exactly the same and end up on the DI and then on the preamp but no re-amp box at thr begining. Is this bad? What I am missing if I don't use the re-amp? Thanx!

    • @creativesoundlab
      @creativesoundlab  8 лет назад

      It's possible that it's just fine for your system depending on how the outputs are balanced, if they are. If it seems to work, then go with it.

    • @maumex
      @maumex 8 лет назад

      creativesoundlab thanx for the reply. I have a home studio. I go in with my guitar to a Radial DI and from there to my m-audio quad track to my logic pro x. Then when mixing and want effects go out output 3 to my boss space echo pedal to the Radial DI and to another input in the m-audio where I can adjust the input. Do you think the re-amp will benefit this chain?

  • @rockwriter9054
    @rockwriter9054 5 лет назад

    Hi do you know how to hook it up and how to use it to add say reverb on a track when mixing

  • @ddropski
    @ddropski 7 лет назад

    so how would you go from say protools using amplitube out than a harmonizer pedal (it has to be at the end of your chain after amp or in this case amplitube) im also using an eleven rack as the interface ...

    • @creativesoundlab
      @creativesoundlab  7 лет назад

      If you wanna use software then it has to be done after you do this process. Think of this is part of the recording process, and amplitube a plug in you ad later, but you'll pry want it running so you can it in context.

  • @graphenemusic5922
    @graphenemusic5922 5 лет назад

    hei, this is a great video, I have some questions though, what if I have a Stereo In/Out Pedal, what kind of reamp do you recommend in that case, and if my interface has build in preamps can I take the stereo outputs of my pedal directly into interface?! thank you

  • @codettasouth
    @codettasouth 8 лет назад

    Is there any way around the delay that happens? With a signal processed through a compressor, it's really hard to line up the frequencies just right. Please help!

    • @creativesoundlab
      @creativesoundlab  8 лет назад

      Yeah, I need to make a video about doing this manual so that it will cover every DAW that is used.

    • @codettasouth
      @codettasouth 8 лет назад

      +creativesoundlab thanks man!

  • @kevrochlin4544
    @kevrochlin4544 6 лет назад

    This video was exactly what I was looking for. This is a "huge deal" to be able to achieve what you described, really very very cool .... However !
    I'm gonna echo the other posts... Please come back with another video and give...
    1. examples of exactly what the blue pedal is, manufacturer etc
    2. The same with the black pedal
    3. do an example showing everything hooked up. Big Thanks

  • @jonnyu5752
    @jonnyu5752 8 лет назад +1

    So it's not a good idea to hook up the pedal to the audio interface? Just wanna make sure

    • @iancrespo_
      @iancrespo_ 8 лет назад +3

      just curious, have you had any luck configuring your pedal to interface to DAW yet? i'm still trying to see if there's a way to do this without the preamp, but it looks like i'm gonna have to buy one anyways. sigh..

    • @daveacosta4166
      @daveacosta4166 8 лет назад +2

      Jonny U its not worth doing bro, just stick with plugins. its confusing as hell, i went out my way to buy all of this and it doesnt even work.

    • @sungjincho
      @sungjincho 6 лет назад

      That's what I'm wondering. I do this as well without reamp box. Why do we need reamp box, if anyone could tell me the reason. I hope I'm not doing anything wrong :-)

  • @jerryv1nt4ge52
    @jerryv1nt4ge52 6 лет назад

    can i use daw effect for performing live & can i use padels too with it.?

  • @ashleynmohler6075
    @ashleynmohler6075 4 года назад

    thanks bro, you really know your stuff and helped come to grips with it.

  • @joshuametzger8095
    @joshuametzger8095 6 лет назад

    I would really like to try out the extc by radial and use that to control my guitar fx post recording . My only concern would be latency induced signals . Is ok to move a wave track back a few milliseconds or use another tool like the ibp by littlelabs to align the signal back into a session to blend with the original signal ? Also how would you use delay and reverb if stereo was desired ? Wouldn’t that mean I would need two extc boxes and two ibp’s ?

  • @superreverbfreak
    @superreverbfreak 7 лет назад +5

    What is the name of "this box" ? 😜

    • @creativesoundlab
      @creativesoundlab  7 лет назад +2

      Have no idea where you are speaking. Maybe I was talking about the Radial reamp box.

    • @michaelsemenov4527
      @michaelsemenov4527 7 лет назад

      Nope, name of the DI Box

    • @michaelsemenov4527
      @michaelsemenov4527 7 лет назад

      I guess it's JDI DI box as in his previous videos

    • @Fossiil-Records
      @Fossiil-Records 6 лет назад

      the blue box....you just say this box. its not the di. whats the name of the blue box its sounds like a keymaster.

    • @spazmatCc
      @spazmatCc 6 лет назад +3

      Radial Engineering Pro RMP Passive Reamping Direct Box ($100)

  • @campbellburns3348
    @campbellburns3348 8 лет назад

    I've noticed input/low end tone loss skipping the DI box and going straight into my preamp/hi-z input, would a DI box before my preamp remedy this?

    • @creativesoundlab
      @creativesoundlab  8 лет назад

      It could be how the pick ups are interacting with the input that you are using. If you are using the Hi-z input, then you are using bascially a built in DI. Try it and see.

  • @derekec
    @derekec 5 лет назад

    I'm missing somethings (yeah I know..brains). He's talking about reamp boxes and preamps and di boxes. He's pointing to a blue box I can't tell if it's a di or a preamp. What do I need?

    • @zigzignuts
      @zigzignuts 4 года назад

      the blue box is his reamp

  • @alexdawson7851
    @alexdawson7851 6 лет назад

    Hi Ryan, my interface only has 2 main outputs, I want to be able to use an outboard compressor and remap tracks and use guitar pedals when mixing. I was thinking of getting the big knob so I could send one output of it to my monitors and the other to a compressor or reamo box and be able to switch between both on the big knob and then back into the interface to record.
    Do you think this would work?
    Would I lose and quality in the audio?
    Or do you have any other solutions to allow me to use outboard equipment with only 2 main ohyouts on my interface?
    Thanks
    Alex