Interesting weapon and insightful presentation. I'm curious about the legality of such weapons in late Qing. Concealed civilian weapons (including sword canes) had a problematic legal history in many parts of 19th-century Europe, so I wonder if Chinese lawmakers took a similarly dim view of them or if they were more permissive in that regard.
Thanks. The question of legality is a good one. I don't know 100 percent the answer. During the Qing period, weapons were indeed controlled and martial arts training was even banned. Though clearly, this was not evenly or throughly enforced. I expect that those in power, whether they were Manchus or Han were able to skirt the rules. We should also note that for example there were Body Guard Agencies whose men were armed.
@@scottm.rodellgrtc2969 Thanks for the informative reply. The body guard agencies sound interesting. I wonder what types of people they employed. Perhaps some ex-military personnel like a lot of modern bodyguard services? Could be a good topic for a future video. Thanks again for sharing your knowledge through all of these excellent videos.
Indeed it is. I image that the stick itself was meant to be used as a weapon, as a first line of defense if one didn't have the time or opportunity to draw the the sword. Once creating space with a few solid blows from the cane, the sword could be drawn.
How you know where the sharp side when you release the blade? Is the sword balance different from normal sword? You use usual technique for strait sword but it is a Sable and maybe it requires special technique for it use?
The placement of the release button made indexing the edge angle quite easy. I didn't practice with this sword cane before making this video, and had no problem quickly drawing and cutting with proper edge alignment. If you haven't already, check out the Sword Drawing videos on this channel...
Thanks for the video. It was really informative and well presented. The sword cane itself is also a very cool weapon. It looks like it looks straight out of an old martial arts movie. I am also interested in the legal aspect thought. Was it allowed for some social classes to wear concealed weapons? Did the lawmakers even worry about that stuff or not?
Thanks. The question of legality is a good one that I don't have a definitive answer to. During the Qing period, weapons were indeed controlled and training in martial arts was even banned. Though clearly, this was not evenly or throughly enforced. For example, there were Body Guard Agencies whose men were armed. I expect that those in power, whether they were Manchus or Han were able to skirt the rules and carry weapons. The period also would have changed the official enforcement of weapons laws, say between the conquest period compared to the Taiping Rebellion.
Great video! My conjecture on the original owner of the dao could be an aged caravan master/trader. Someone whose journeys may encounter bandits but also have to deal with civil societies?
Certainly could be, makes total sense. One of the interesting aspect of these old weapons for me personally is thinking about who might have wielded them. Thanks for supporting our Channel.
Scott, as 孝順 is important to me, I did return to Germany, 2 yrs ago, to take care of my old mother. In the meantime we are free again, redoing the house and garden, after 40 yrs of neglect.
This Sword Cane would not be typical for the type of sword carried by daoist priests. If you want to see a couple daoist priest swords, have a look at: ruclips.net/video/awmdezzqa7U/видео.html
Could you do an instructional video showing how to hang the scabbard of different swords (Han Jian specifically) to a belt? They have the interesting clip and I’m not sure how exactly it’s meant to be used or how they were historically used and I’d like to find out from someone with a lot of experience like yourself.
@@bladetasticknives5712, we can certainly forge a custom sword cane for you. I can extrapolate the geometry from this example to whatever length you desire. Keep in mind though that Swords forged at Seven Stars generally start at $3k. There aren't a lot of fittings on an cane, so it would be a bit cheaper.
@@scottm.rodellgrtc2969 okay, let me see what length of blade I would prefer and overall length, I will try to come up with some dimensions and get back to you 👍🏻👍🏻
@@bladetasticknives5712, great, this a project I look forward to... keep in mind the overall length of the stick/scabbard. We can do a nice, solid end of brass or iron.
Better if you can provide close up shots of the pieces you present moving forward. There's a lot of us who are interested on learning on the tiny bit of details of such pieces so we can use it as a basis for our own research. 🙂
Thanks for the feedback. We do the best with what we can with free labor, and time available. Sorry, but we don't always have a pro cameraman available for every shoot. If you are a smith, contact Rodell Laoshi directly and he might be able to help you (assuming he isn't traveling as he often is).
Chen doesn't actually make any swords. He contracts with makers in a different town than he lives. That's probably why he has had so make quality control problems. I would probably go with the Art of Fire & Iron instead. All the Chinese forges have to work on the Quality control, but at least with AoF&I, you are dealing with the actual maker.
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Interesting weapon and insightful presentation. I'm curious about the legality of such weapons in late Qing. Concealed civilian weapons (including sword canes) had a problematic legal history in many parts of 19th-century Europe, so I wonder if Chinese lawmakers took a similarly dim view of them or if they were more permissive in that regard.
Thanks. The question of legality is a good one. I don't know 100 percent the answer. During the Qing period, weapons were indeed controlled and martial arts training was even banned. Though clearly, this was not evenly or throughly enforced. I expect that those in power, whether they were Manchus or Han were able to skirt the rules. We should also note that for example there were Body Guard Agencies whose men were armed.
@@scottm.rodellgrtc2969 Thanks for the informative reply. The body guard agencies sound interesting. I wonder what types of people they employed. Perhaps some ex-military personnel like a lot of modern bodyguard services? Could be a good topic for a future video.
Thanks again for sharing your knowledge through all of these excellent videos.
@@JT_Soul Sun Lu Tang and Li Cun Yi are examples of martial artists who started agencies you can research on google.
@@iflotaichi Thanks for the tip. I'll certainly look them up.
Beautiful! And quite heavy. I think my dandao is around 2.5 lbs (counting the scabbard on that cane sword).
Indeed it is. I image that the stick itself was meant to be used as a weapon, as a first line of defense if one didn't have the time or opportunity to draw the the sword. Once creating space with a few solid blows from the cane, the sword could be drawn.
How you know where the sharp side when you release the blade? Is the sword balance different from normal sword? You use usual technique for strait sword but it is a Sable and maybe it requires special technique for it use?
Go to 4:43 for the answer to your question...
The placement of the release button made indexing the edge angle quite easy. I didn't practice with this sword cane before making this video, and had no problem quickly drawing and cutting with proper edge alignment. If you haven't already, check out the Sword Drawing videos on this channel...
@@mugenGRTC Yes, it's my fault 😔
@@alexandersavin1538, no worries brother.
I would love one of those. Truly a robust, versatile weapon
Maybe we can find a Forge willing to reproduce them...
I found it a surprisingly agile blade.
@@mugenGRTC i would be intrested in such a reproduction if done
@@charlesghannoumlb2959 I have to agree. I would be interested in purchasing such reproduction as well.
I think The Art of Fire & Iron would forge them.
This is something I've always wanted. 😎
I think if you approached The Art of Fire & Iron forge, they would reproduce one for you. I have been happy with what I have seen from them so far.
@@smrsevenstarstradingco.241 Really? Thanks for the tip.
@@JK-xz1lt no worries.
Another cool videos!
Glad you like them!
Thanks for the video. It was really informative and well presented. The sword cane itself is also a very cool weapon. It looks like it looks straight out of an old martial arts movie. I am also interested in the legal aspect thought. Was it allowed for some social classes to wear concealed weapons? Did the lawmakers even worry about that stuff or not?
Thanks. The question of legality is a good one that I don't have a definitive answer to. During the Qing period, weapons were indeed controlled and training in martial arts was even banned. Though clearly, this was not evenly or throughly enforced. For example, there were Body Guard Agencies whose men were armed. I expect that those in power, whether they were Manchus or Han were able to skirt the rules and carry weapons. The period also would have changed the official enforcement of weapons laws, say between the conquest period compared to the Taiping Rebellion.
Thank you for sharing this interesting concealed jian.
We appreciate your support Poney!
Great video! My conjecture on the original owner of the dao could be an aged caravan master/trader. Someone whose journeys may encounter bandits but also have to deal with civil societies?
Certainly could be, makes total sense. One of the interesting aspect of these old weapons for me personally is thinking about who might have wielded them. Thanks for supporting our Channel.
In Japan it would be called a Shikomizue
Yes, nice blade, nice presentation, nice presenter!
Thanks, we appreciate the feedback.
Thanks brother, how’s life in Taiwan these days?
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Scott, as 孝順 is important to me, I did return to Germany, 2 yrs ago, to take care of my old mother. In the meantime we are free again, redoing the house and garden, after 40 yrs of neglect.
That's the weapon of a priest. Inconspicuous and yet thoroughly lethal
This Sword Cane would not be typical for the type of sword carried by daoist priests. If you want to see a couple daoist priest swords, have a look at: ruclips.net/video/awmdezzqa7U/видео.html
Could you do an instructional video showing how to hang the scabbard of different swords (Han Jian specifically) to a belt? They have the interesting clip and I’m not sure how exactly it’s meant to be used or how they were historically used and I’d like to find out from someone with a lot of experience like yourself.
Where can I buy this
It is an antique, sold by Seven Stars Trading Co.
Love it brother Scott !! I was out walking the dog the other night and was thinking of having a walking stick with a hidden blade inside, thank you 🙏🏼
Was thinking myself, this would make a great walking stick. I might get our smith at Seven Stars Trading to make me one...
@@scottm.rodellgrtc2969 , I would definitely be interested in one if he does Scott 👍🏻👍🏻
@@bladetasticknives5712, we can certainly forge a custom sword cane for you. I can extrapolate the geometry from this example to whatever length you desire. Keep in mind though that Swords forged at Seven Stars generally start at $3k. There aren't a lot of fittings on an cane, so it would be a bit cheaper.
@@scottm.rodellgrtc2969 okay, let me see what length of blade I would prefer and overall length, I will try to come up with some dimensions and get back to you 👍🏻👍🏻
@@bladetasticknives5712, great, this a project I look forward to... keep in mind the overall length of the stick/scabbard. We can do a nice, solid end of brass or iron.
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Thanks!
Better if you can provide close up shots of the pieces you present moving forward. There's a lot of us who are interested on learning on the tiny bit of details of such pieces so we can use it as a basis for our own research. 🙂
Thanks for the feedback. We do the best with what we can with free labor, and time available. Sorry, but we don't always have a pro cameraman available for every shoot. If you are a smith, contact Rodell Laoshi directly and he might be able to help you (assuming he isn't traveling as he often is).
Do you provide these?
I wonder if LK Chen could make one ?
Chen doesn't actually make any swords. He contracts with makers in a different town than he lives. That's probably why he has had so make quality control problems. I would probably go with the Art of Fire & Iron instead. All the Chinese forges have to work on the Quality control, but at least with AoF&I, you are dealing with the actual maker.
You apear in forg in fire
I was never on "Forged in Fire," but I made several appearances on "Man at Arms Reforged." Maybe you were thinking of that web series?