This one had me howling. 😂 The look on Andy's face when he found out what the subject was. I have to agree of the three nitro would be the way I would go if I had to
Jacob Wheeler, Dustin Connell, Randy Howell, Frank Talley, Paul Muller all run Tritons to just name a few. Also, have you seen the new Triton XRT in person yet? You may have a different opinion if you saw one and looked at it inside and out, it may surprise you. Also, Triton is definitely better boat than Nitro!
@@sbhcmcc Oh things break when they have them that 1st year for sure ! That’s why they have all the service trucks at those high end tournaments. They used to have them at the MWC walleye tournaments years ago and we could get just about anything fixed on the spot. But not anymore 😢
Ok Homer's... I have a Z-19 Pro bought it in July 2021 and been to the Potomac, the Flats of the Chesapeake Bay the St.Lawrence River and the mouth of Ontario alot of Ohio and West Virginia lakes, Lake Fork Texas Arkansas River, Lake Ouachita in Arkansas. Zero and I mean Zero boat issues. Mine came loaded out with 4 disc brakes galvanized trailer with tough coat steps and break away tongue. Custom cover, 3x15 Amp charger, hydraulic jack plate, you name it has it. No power poles $49,749 tax and all out the door. Minnkota iPilot with iLink 80 pound thrust two Humminbird 8 inch Helix Gen 4's Also a dealer who has sold Phoenix to Chargers to Johnny Morris boats and has said that the resins and quality is on par. I haul the chemicals to the bass boat factories and know the quality of resin being used. Bass Cat uses Ashland chemicals in totes not bulk tankers. Your not convincing me that there is a problem with these boats. As far as the motor goes the Mercury V-8 is way quiter then Yamaha and way more fuel efficient
Been happy with my 2020 z20 pro. I honestly couldn’t justify spending 15k more to get a skeeter or Phoenix at the time. Since then they have gone up a bunch in price and a ZXR is the best value in new rigged up boats. I honestly don’t see a huge difference in my nitro build quality vs the other brands I’ve got a chance to look at (besides the bass cats and other custom brands). Usually the people the get off online calling WRMG boats junk are guys running an 82 cobra or a bay liner bass boat lol
Sad that two once great brands in Ranger and Triton have been lowered to the point where it's that hard to pick them over Nitro. Although it was painful, thanks for the honest opinion Andy!
broken and separated front decks are popping up on the Z21 in the Chattanooga area. Warranty I suppose but even a better reason to choose another White River product. Nitro's are flashy and loaded but I really wonder if the quality is any better than it was 20 yrs ago. imo.
I couldn’t wait for this one, i felt the pain, I almost made the nitro mistake… but a couple days before going to cabelas I found a champ 210 elite and never looked back! I called the sales guy I was dealing with and told him what I found and he laughed and said well your getting like 10x the boat you better go buy it or I will:
Tournament fishing has suffered greatly because of the outrageous boat pricing. That's why Kayaking is becoming popular. Even tackle is unbelievable over priced. Love the cannel.
Nothing stopping you from going on a tour of the factories. If you're going to look at Ranger and Nitro plants you may as well check out the Triton plant in Midway. All are awesome facilities.
Let's be real here. Nitro is the only somewhat realistically priced glass boat out there. Is there some differences between them and other more expensive brands? Sure, but at the end of the day less than 1%of the bass fishing population is doing it for a living and those guys are getting their boats extremely discounted. Absolutely zero reason to NEED to spend even nitro money on a boat let alone 100k+.
The Ghost trolling motor can be 24 or 36 volt. The Nitro Pro comes with a choice of either one or other. My pro 19 came with 10 inch hds with live site. Both at bow and counsel.
Lol this is a good video. To answer some of your questions about the batteries with the lowrance Ghost, I believe you can run that trolling motor 24 volt or 36. So of course they are going to go the cheaper route and only give you two batteries for it so you are stuck running 24 volt. And also you'd be surprised about who runs Triton boats. This is debatable in my book but most of the world thinks the best angler in the world aka Jacob Wheeler, He's running a triton. I believe connell is running a Triton as well.
Pros run whatever boat company that pads their pockets the most! They don't give a crap, they're there to make a living. Chris Zaldain just tried to say 13 fishing is just as good as megabass lol...that proves money talks
Bought the 2021 Z19 just over a year ago. Hit a very large wake of a cabin cruiser. Was doing about 40 mph and let of gas right when i hit the wave. Launched into the air and landed pretty hard. Do you think that i could've avoided injury if i was in a bigger or different boat? Just asking.
Could you please do a video on vexus I work at a boat dealership and we sell them I would really like to hear your opinion on them they seem like a very good built boat
This past June/July, my family purchased a 2006 Ranger Z21 with dual 10’ power poles, 4 lithium’s with charger, 6” hydraulic jack plate, 250 Verado, 112 Ultrex, keel guard, 9” HDS gen 3 @ bow and console and a pre installed locker bar. All of that for 29.5k before tax/dmv stuff. It’s so much better to go used and upgrade from a used boat. Ex: to throw a new SHO 250 on our rig, we would sell the VRod and get a SHO and still be under 50k. Do some graph upgrades and be right at 55k. Cheaper than the New Nirto and still a much better quality boat, even though ours is a 06 Ranger and with Forrest Woods signature on our Consols! No need to upgrade anything else. Everyone should look at a used boat before dropping 80k average on a new boat today!
Love Andy and he's entitled to his opinion, but i think he's full of shit. I've owned 3 Nitros since 2000 and still have a z20. All have been great boats. Have never had and issue with boat or trailers. I run them hard too on the Mississippi river. Better than spending $100,000 grand plus on a Gambler. Just my opinion. Love your videos.
Dude I loved this video sorry you had to pick the nitro but man I’d would have made same decision and I drive a Ranger now older one but I like it it’s a 1995 Ranger R72 sport with merc 115
My nitro still going great 2014. 700hrs. Poor ass trailers. I had to get an new one built. Custom. Nitro I think has come long way. Awesome flipping deck. Poor seats
I'll never buy a White River product. Ever. I detest what Johnny Morris is doing to the industry. I would say he's on the verge of an anti-trust suit already. I cried when he bought Legend, I knew it would go the way of Stratos. My LE-21 is paid for and I'm not buying anything else for a long, long while. When I do, I'll probably go BassCat. I don't see them selling out to the devil.
Brooo Jacob wheeler Dustin Connell randy Howell lot of them Still in tritons haha I don’t like them but still around with some good sticks running them.
A Gel-Coated inner tube is going for $70k, Andy....OR?? You can go to Cousin Elmo's gas station and get an XL inner tube (non-Pro Model, of course) for $12.97 (paddle not included). FUNNY SUFF!
That was fn hilarious! 😂 Andy is the best! Honesty and experience! I love how all BP boats still have metal shavings in their compartments that the dealer and factory are too lazy to clean 😂😝😝 I wouldn't take one those pieces of shit for free because I can't swim that far when it sinks 😂
When compared to all of the other brands it's our opinion that they are a lesser rig made of lesser quality materials with the least amount of attention to detail
Boat is only as good as the dealer. With that being said, I run a Nitro Z19. It’s a good boat and value . After all, those little green fish don’t care if you’re running a inner tube with a trolling motor!!
What is your description of "American made?" Mercury wiring harnesses are made in mexico. We'd think the plastic components are made in China, Ecu will probably be made in Japan, fuel injectors are probably German but made in china as well. It all comes down to assembly and it's not even an argument...the Japanese engines are built and assembled to a higher standard. Oh and the Merc 40, 50 and 60 are 100% chinese made at their Chinese manufacturing plant. Some food for thought! 😉👍🏻
@@TeamMarineService this is spot on! Just because the company is based here has ZERO to do with their product being made here. That’s what drives me nuts about St Croix rods, that little sticker on the rod seat but says Mexico not USA. Same as our president, his sticker says made in China as well
Jordan is the real hero here! 🤣 Thanks for doing this Andy
This has got to be one of my favorite videos! The pain in Andy’s face is priceless!
Jacob wheeler and Dustin Connell both run Triton's.
Money talks
Not because they want to!!!!
Makes it easy when you can just call up every year and get a new one when the one your in starts to fall apart lmao
Gary Klein
there's a reason wheeler built ikon
What's it gonna be? Nitro, Triton or Ranger?
None!
Champion
Triton
None of the above.
Triton best ride of all three and still reasonably priced
🤣🤣🤣 This was great Team. It's hard to pick Nitro but I can see why people do.
This one had me howling. 😂 The look on Andy's face when he found out what the subject was. I have to agree of the three nitro would be the way I would go if I had to
If you’re ever in Midway come on over to Triton. We’ll walk you through. We aren’t going anywhere if we have anything to say about it!
Jacob Wheeler, Dustin Connell, Randy Howell, Frank Talley, Paul Muller all run Tritons to just name a few. Also, have you seen the new Triton XRT in person yet? You may have a different opinion if you saw one and looked at it inside and out, it may surprise you. Also, Triton is definitely better boat than Nitro!
Paul mueller runs a caymas now
@@TWestOutdoors Okay, Brent Chapman and if you look at FLW and Costa tour a ton of guys run Tritons
They also all get them for free and paid by white river marine🤣 stop trying to justify over paying for a nitro
Very true but they also get a new one every year before anything breaks
@@sbhcmcc Oh things break when they have them that 1st year for sure ! That’s why they have all the service trucks at those high end tournaments. They used to have them at the MWC walleye tournaments years ago and we could get just about anything fixed on the spot. But not anymore 😢
Wow that was hard for me! Haha
I'd like to hear more about what Jordan had to fix. Maybe a video on how to gut and redo a new boat. 😂
Ok Homer's... I have a Z-19 Pro bought it in July 2021 and been to the Potomac, the Flats of the Chesapeake Bay the St.Lawrence River and the mouth of Ontario alot of Ohio and West Virginia lakes, Lake Fork Texas Arkansas River, Lake Ouachita in Arkansas. Zero and I mean Zero boat issues. Mine came loaded out with 4 disc brakes galvanized trailer with tough coat steps and break away tongue. Custom cover, 3x15 Amp charger, hydraulic jack plate, you name it has it. No power poles $49,749 tax and all out the door. Minnkota iPilot with iLink 80 pound thrust two Humminbird 8 inch Helix Gen 4's
Also a dealer who has sold Phoenix to Chargers to Johnny Morris boats and has said that the resins and quality is on par.
I haul the chemicals to the bass boat factories and know the quality of resin being used. Bass Cat uses Ashland chemicals in totes not bulk tankers.
Your not convincing me that there is a problem with these boats. As far as the motor goes the Mercury V-8 is way quiter then Yamaha and way more fuel efficient
Been happy with my 2020 z20 pro. I honestly couldn’t justify spending 15k more to get a skeeter or Phoenix at the time. Since then they have gone up a bunch in price and a ZXR is the best value in new rigged up boats.
I honestly don’t see a huge difference in my nitro build quality vs the other brands I’ve got a chance to look at (besides the bass cats and other custom brands). Usually the people the get off online calling WRMG boats junk are guys running an 82 cobra or a bay liner bass boat lol
I literally own a bayliner bass boat and call nitro trash. Nail on the head!
This was Hilarious 😂! It had to be hard to say nitro or any other white water Product ! But Andy your a trooper
Sad that two once great brands in Ranger and Triton have been lowered to the point where it's that hard to pick them over Nitro. Although it was painful, thanks for the honest opinion Andy!
Should have called it johnny Morris special.
broken and separated front decks are popping up on the Z21 in the Chattanooga area. Warranty I suppose but even a better reason to choose another White River product. Nitro's are flashy and loaded but I really wonder if the quality is any better than it was 20 yrs ago. imo.
Oh wow! That's not good!!!
I couldn’t wait for this one, i felt the pain, I almost made the nitro mistake… but a couple days before going to cabelas I found a champ 210 elite and never looked back! I called the sales guy I was dealing with and told him what I found and he laughed and said well your getting like 10x the boat you better go buy it or I will:
Me too, Andy’s reviews saved me!
Jordan, this was your best work yet! lol We, the people, need more!
Very very good job at dragging it out... and ad placement. Tip my hat to y'all. Entertaining video fellas.
Tournament fishing has suffered greatly because of the outrageous boat pricing. That's why Kayaking is becoming popular. Even tackle is unbelievable over priced. Love the cannel.
Nothing stopping you from going on a tour of the factories. If you're going to look at Ranger and Nitro plants you may as well check out the Triton plant in Midway. All are awesome facilities.
Wheeler and Connell for triton.
How do you only have 11.7k Subs! Your content rocks! God Bless!
Haha we appreciate your support Robert! Thank you!!
Nice to see Andy squirming! Lmfao!
Too funny!!! Keep up the entertainment!
Always fun to pick between the lesser of two evils!
Easy choice . Ranger…..
B Lats the man…. You too Andy
Love that you found these guys too! Great channel from a bunch of mechanics
used from 2013-2014 fixed :)
Yea... if it was free... easy pick!
I Can buy 2 z21's or 1 icon?
When you say console it makes me want to scream. Say it with me....Kahn-sohl. Not Cown-sill....😂. Enjoy your Nitro!! Great vids
Let's be real here. Nitro is the only somewhat realistically priced glass boat out there. Is there some differences between them and other more expensive brands? Sure, but at the end of the day less than 1%of the bass fishing population is doing it for a living and those guys are getting their boats extremely discounted. Absolutely zero reason to NEED to spend even nitro money on a boat let alone 100k+.
This is hilarious! Thanks Jordan!
I had a 36 Volt TM on my 361 20 years ago. That 80lb thrust TM belongs on a Tracker 170
The boat comes standard with a 36v ghost. Not sure why they are taking about some crappy TM. I’m looking at the website now
Sold me buying nitro. 😁 not going to lie with what’s been available I’m considering a Z19 pro for the money.
2021 Z19 pro.. Absolutely love mine
The exact reason I bought a nitro. Got 17k in upgrades on a z19 still only @ 60k.
But you own a Nitro.
Nitro , Bayliner 🤷🏻 yea yea same thing!
😂😂😂 I thought you were going to have a stroke making that pick.
Top pro runs a Triton Jacob Wheeler but so does Dustin Connell
Money talks
Jacob Wheeler runs a Triton.
That was brutal
The Ghost trolling motor can be 24 or 36 volt. The Nitro Pro comes with a choice of either one or other. My pro 19 came with 10 inch hds with live site. Both at bow and counsel.
Basscat !
Lol this is a good video. To answer some of your questions about the batteries with the lowrance Ghost, I believe you can run that trolling motor 24 volt or 36. So of course they are going to go the cheaper route and only give you two batteries for it so you are stuck running 24 volt. And also you'd be surprised about who runs Triton boats. This is debatable in my book but most of the world thinks the best angler in the world aka Jacob Wheeler, He's running a triton. I believe connell is running a Triton as well.
Pros run whatever boat company that pads their pockets the most! They don't give a crap, they're there to make a living. Chris Zaldain just tried to say 13 fishing is just as good as megabass lol...that proves money talks
He’s gonna pic the ranger. 😊
Just found you guys and this is fucking awesome ! The pure despise for that group is hilarious!
Great topic!
👍🏻👍🏻
Wheeler & Connell running Tritons.
the ghost you can run it as a 24 v trolling motor also..
Yeah we suspect that's what they've got going on
I really enjoyed that. Thanks Andy
Any of the listed boats can be bought through my local dealers. I wouldn't go to BPS to buy a boat. But I think they may sell banana hammocks!
Love the videos. It would be nice to hear a review having been in each of the three boats.
Great idea
We need a team talk on the new boat flooring options
Bought the 2021 Z19 just over a year ago. Hit a very large wake of a cabin cruiser. Was doing about 40 mph and let of gas right when i hit the wave. Launched into the air and landed pretty hard. Do you think that i could've avoided injury if i was in a bigger or different boat? Just asking.
Andy I know that hurt you so bad to say that but I laughed the whole time at this really needed it lol
Love your show how you feel about a vexeus avx 2080 2022
Could you please do a video on vexus I work at a boat dealership and we sell them I would really like to hear your opinion on them they seem like a very good built boat
Can I put a bass tracker? I laughed hard at that.
Apples to Apples on Triton is the TRX21 Patriot. It comes with most of the 21XL Pro options.
This past June/July, my family purchased a 2006 Ranger Z21 with dual 10’ power poles, 4 lithium’s with charger, 6” hydraulic jack plate, 250 Verado, 112 Ultrex, keel guard, 9” HDS gen 3 @ bow and console and a pre installed locker bar. All of that for 29.5k before tax/dmv stuff. It’s so much better to go used and upgrade from a used boat.
Ex: to throw a new SHO 250 on our rig, we would sell the VRod and get a SHO and still be under 50k. Do some graph upgrades and be right at 55k. Cheaper than the New Nirto and still a much better quality boat, even though ours is a 06 Ranger and with Forrest Woods signature on our Consols! No need to upgrade anything else. Everyone should look at a used boat before dropping 80k average on a new boat today!
Hi
Watching this video, you know the struggle is real!
I love watching these
Check out the flats skiff boat xplor 13, tell me that isn’t a champion hull
Jacob wheeler runs a triton….. anyways new boat wise give me a 650 blazer 😂
The only choices is nitro But I wouldn’t have one 😂😂😂😂😂 Great show Andy still laughing
I’m sure at the dealer you can add whatever you want.
Where is this located?
White River HQ???
@@TeamMarineService Lacrosse, I found out a minute ago, thanks!
Nitro... cheapest and you can get more return on the accessories if you have to part it out lol.
Love Andy and he's entitled to his opinion, but i think he's full of shit. I've owned 3 Nitros since 2000 and still have a z20. All have been great boats. Have never had and issue with boat or trailers. I run them hard too on the Mississippi river. Better than spending $100,000 grand plus on a Gambler. Just my opinion. Love your videos.
Not surprising on the choice considering Nitro is the only one out of the three that you said was undervalued.
Are you going to do an Over/Under for Legend Boats?
Inner tube freaking hilarious
Great video. Love it when Andy goes on a rant 👍
Randy Howell/ Casey Ashley/ and Jonathan Vandam run Triton boats
If I could choose one from any era, meaning pre-WRM, I'd get the Triton all day.
Great idea!! Go to the Ranger and Nitro plant and tell us what you think.
Go to the Triton plant in Midway too. All very cool facilities.
White river also bought out Stratos boats. Which I think they should bring back.
Dude I loved this video sorry you had to pick the nitro but man I’d would have made same decision and I drive a Ranger now older one but I like it it’s a 1995 Ranger R72 sport with merc 115
Someone should photoshop Andy’s Nitro with a big letter POS wrap, go ahead and find a Chrysler cowling as well 🤣
HAHAHAHA YES!!!!!!!
New nickname...Drum roll please... NITRO ANDY!!
This is so funny
My nitro still going great 2014. 700hrs. Poor ass trailers. I had to get an new one built. Custom. Nitro I think has come long way. Awesome flipping deck. Poor seats
I'll never buy a White River product. Ever. I detest what Johnny Morris is doing to the industry. I would say he's on the verge of an anti-trust suit already. I cried when he bought Legend, I knew it would go the way of Stratos. My LE-21 is paid for and I'm not buying anything else for a long, long while. When I do, I'll probably go BassCat. I don't see them selling out to the devil.
The sheer pain this man was in LMAO 🤣
Haaaaaaaaa!!!! I love it
Brooo Jacob wheeler Dustin Connell randy Howell lot of them
Still in tritons haha I don’t like them but still around with some good sticks running them.
White River tries to revive the brand with them as a last ditch effort?
A Gel-Coated inner tube is going for $70k, Andy....OR?? You can go to Cousin Elmo's gas station and get an XL inner tube (non-Pro Model, of course) for $12.97 (paddle not included). FUNNY SUFF!
This episode was fun. 🤣
7 inch live, with a large magnifying glass
Bring back legend!!
That was fn hilarious! 😂
Andy is the best! Honesty and experience! I love how all BP boats still have metal shavings in their compartments that the dealer and factory are too lazy to clean 😂😝😝 I wouldn't take one those pieces of shit for free because I can't swim that far when it sinks 😂
You noticed that too, huh? 🤣
What walleye boat would you pick??? Warrior, skeeter, yar-craft???
Damn I’m early
Meh, your wife's use to it
My choice?? None of them, I'll stick with my BassCat thank you
Lol this is wonderful. Good ole Johnny Morris needs to see this one. Speaking the truth!!!! White River Marine is where boats go to die.
Wheeler runs triton
Are Nitro really that bad ???? I see a lot of them on Rayburn.....I’m looking and Nitro is priced better ????
When compared to all of the other brands it's our opinion that they are a lesser rig made of lesser quality materials with the least amount of attention to detail
There isn't anything wrong with a Nitro. Buy what you like and can afford and go fishing.
I also think you're a closet nitro fan Andy. Lol If I remember right you said this boat was undervalued 😆😂
Boat is only as good as the dealer. With that being said, I run a Nitro Z19. It’s a good boat and value . After all, those little green fish don’t care if you’re running a inner tube with a trolling motor!!
You hook the 4th bank to your ding a ling
If you’re an average weekend fisherman, why wouldn’t go with a Nitro for the cost?
Good stuff but Jordan did you wrong on the options.
Take a look at those standard features on their websites. It's definitely interesting seeing what's listed and not listed
@@TeamMarineService I agree. I actually saw a few new Rangers at our boat show. Horrible looking boats with those high gunnels.
Piss and moan about the American made motor in your own state while you have a Suzuki banner on your wall. Nice 👍🏻
What is your description of "American made?" Mercury wiring harnesses are made in mexico. We'd think the plastic components are made in China, Ecu will probably be made in Japan, fuel injectors are probably German but made in china as well. It all comes down to assembly and it's not even an argument...the Japanese engines are built and assembled to a higher standard. Oh and the Merc 40, 50 and 60 are 100% chinese made at their Chinese manufacturing plant. Some food for thought! 😉👍🏻
@@TeamMarineService this is spot on! Just because the company is based here has ZERO to do with their product being made here. That’s what drives me nuts about St Croix rods, that little sticker on the rod seat but says Mexico not USA. Same as our president, his sticker says made in China as well
Would never own a new Triton or nitro.Love my 06 TR -21x bad ass boat.lighting fast and built like a tank.
NiTro! Too The Front!!! Haha!