which handlebars are best for your 90s bike? comparison & review
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- just got the new MOTHBAR from magic components and wanted to do a comparison review of the few bars that i have. hopefully it helps you decide which bar is best for your commuter , gravel , or mountain bike!
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Nitto Albatross 1:12
Suzuki DRZ 400 2:29
Wormbar 4:19
Wald 828/898 5:34
Blygo Moto 7:18
Mothbar 8:52
Thank you g
Very informative. As I'm getting later in my 60's I've migrated from drops to straight to risers with moderate sweep. The key is to keep riding in as comfortable position as possible and changing the bars is a good way of doing it and not too expensive.
Cheers mate, yep changing the bars is a great to reinvigorate your bike and cycling! Saves the back too haha !
Bro spot on ride characteristics of those bars. Whiteboard session worked really well for illustrating the differences.
Thank you man haha I had to think about it for a bit, but it worked out in the end! Cheers
The Moth bars 😍 yaaaas, sound so rad. Love how companies are making some wide, but not too wide, bars with sweep! 👏 ❤
Yessss sooo good!! Def glad they are being made !! 😊😊😊
I'm now 63, and have severe arthritis in neck and lower back. I have 'higher' bars now and things are better; am still looking to improve my bars; this video is very helpfull/informative. Many thanks for sharing your knowlede.
That’s awesome !! Glad I was able to help. Keep on riding !! Cheers
Try out redshifts suspension stem if you can, may help reduce a bit of the ache at the front. Not sure where you’re based but decathlon also sells quite a cheap suspension seatpost that might slightly take the sting out the saddle
At 70 I’m really enjoying a new set of Albatross shaped bars on my front suspension hybrid.
that is awesome! they are beautiful bars 👍
Great video! Really helps show the shapes of bars from all angles - far better than any pictures. And the nostalgia from the retro v-brake levers was awesome; those M600s take me BACK!
Hell ya glad you found it helpful!! Hahah yes those m600 classic! Cheers !
I clicked because I was interested in the handlebars, but your stems are somehow better. That Cook Brother's Racing stem is a stunner.
hahah cheers mate, bit of a stem addict myself, got a few others not featured here haha - the cook dog bone is pretty rare! cheers
Just come back to this video as I’m picking new bars for my bike. Super helpful
Niceee glad it was helpful! Cheers 😊
This was a great idea because you have an eye for bars that others overlook, such as the Wald longhorns and motocross bars. And your builds prove that cruiser bars look great and feel great on mtbs and road bikes alike. I've installed them on mine based on your examples. The graph at the end was inspired.
Thank you Peter! Glad it was helpful! Changing the bars definitely influences the way the bike rides, and also a nice way to refresh an old bike 👍
Great video! It's helped me decide what setup to go for on my 90s Marin Bear Valley. I'll be getting something similar to the mothball 👍
@@olid512 cheers my dude ! glad it was helpful
Super awesome overview. Keep them coming. I'm trying to bring life into my 94 Stumpjumper
Thanks man I’ll do my best ! Hell ya the stumper will be sick!
if you're not sure what metal something is made of, put a strong magnet on it. if the magnet doesn't stick, it's aluminum, if the magnet sticks a little, it's stainless steel, if you can't get the magnet off, it's steel and your handle bars now have a love bump.
that's a great tip thank you !
Great video, very informative and just what I have been looking for plus the whiteboard illustrations were excellent, Merci.
Awesome glad it was helpful ! Thank you very much 😊
Good comparison. Just installed moto style bars, bmx bars actually, with a 9" rise on a 90" trekking bike and tilted a fair amount towards the seat. Looks wacky, but boy is it relaxed. I struggle with shoulder injuries so hoping this will solve it. Now on to electrifying the bike 😁
Awesome dude!! Yep there’s so rule, the only rule is that if you’re happy with it! Enjoy man
Mothbars look AWESOME!
Yesssss looks so good, beautiful shape
thanks for the explanation on these different bars. I'm trying out the vo crazy bars on a 80s trek 830 and i like it a lot. not as much backsweep as the losco or albatross, plus forward facing nubbins for a "hoods" position for more aero. theyre 31.8 so im using a quill-to-threadless adapter.
riding 21.1 quill bullmoose bars on another '81 schwinn le tour. so fun. i had bought them to try on the trek, but they came in a different quill diameter, that happened to fit the schwinn road bike, and it all worked out.
Nice ! Both those bars around good. Also good to have the different hand position options 👍 cheers !
Just recently started experimenting with a set of inverted cruiser bars with db levers. It's surprisingly comfy and effective, only complaint is I need much thicker grips
Ahh nice I always wanted to try that but the drop it’s a bit much for me , maybe when I find a tall stem. Cheers!
Thank you for this. Especially the drawn examples.
No worries ! Hope it helped!!
This is for people over 50 or even 40 or on the heavy side. Any bar that is wide and high not dropdown is good enough. Change the tire to 1.9" wide and wide saddle with springs, make sure chromoly tubing aluminum rims, total weight should be less than 20lbs. You can do a lot of work out and ride some distance with comfort, no pain in the neck, wrist, and bum.
You got some cool bikes.
Cheers mate ! Pain free riding is very enjoyable 👍👍👍
I’ve found 2 of those moto bars for like 20 each at flea markets. I like them and the look.
hell ya dude! thats where its at!
Great content - moth bar and stem is pretty wild..
Cheers mate!! Haha yeah they are as wild in real life as they look in the vid ! V cool
Incredibly helpful
I’m glad !
It was good to learn the names of these different styles of handlebars I am a bit of a handlebar Fanatic so I will be saving This video for reference Gary 😀
Hahah another handlebar fanatic just like me!! 😂😂😂 glad I’m not the only one 🤣
@garys.projects yes I am they can make you feel like you're on a different bike just by changing the bars or I might watch a video and I'll change my mind again I have got three bikes so there are lots of changes 🤔
I have bars similar to the Albatross on my old Shogun, and I found them easier to aero tuck than the straight factory bars.
Ooo nice ! Makes sense I guess the hand position is almost like drop bars but higher
Very informative. Thanks!
@@sertaoexpedicoes no worries cheers
Hitted 'em with the whiteboard Prof. Garry lesson in session
Bout to break out the white board so I can show you the correct way to spell my name 🤣🤣🤣 cheers homie!!
Fan of the quill adapter by the look of it. I like them too.
Ahhh yeah! Have it on one of the bikes here , cool be able to put bmx stem + moto bars on 👍
Awesome video, v informative 👍🏻 thank you Gary
Thanks dude glad you enjoyed !! Cheers
I like the cruiser looking bars
Hell ya !!
Mine are a bit like the worm but with more sweep and rise. Perfect for upright positioning on my comuter.
nice ! sounds good
Great video, covered so much detail
Thank you very much !
Really good vid, been thinking about going to a more relaxed bar than my straight and there's some sweet examples here to look into. Cheers!
No worries man glad you like the vid! Hope it helps you to find something you like!
An alternative to the Nitto Albatross, which because of being Japanese can be difficult to get a hold of and expensive, are the Soma Oxford, which are an almost exact copy.
Nice ! Thanks for the tip
Thanks again for a great vid, I'm trying to decide what bars to put on my diamondback to set up as a bit of an all-rounder.
I like your blygo bars and the bmx stem, I might give that set up a go.
This helped alot so thanks again.
Nice man! I think that will be great, works well on my bike! No worries at all, glad I could help, cheers !
Great video helped confirm my decision!
Thank you my dude ! Glad I could help
That cooks brothers stem is probably valuable
Def is
Worm Bar, Moth Bar, or Maybe Wald 828 will be considered for the MB-1 fun build. I usually get Albatross on my bikes. So comfy, but since it’s mostly going to be a quicker bike that Ill take off road a good portion.. Worm Bar or the others :) Great Job!!
Niceeee all good options! sounds good cheers man!
@@garysprojects or the Klunker! 😆
@@djkenny1202 🤣🤣🤣
Thanks for this. Looking for bars for my Gary Fisher Hoo Koo
Hell ya no worries man, what did you decide on ?
love the moths!
awww heeeelllll yawwwww
I went with velo orange klunker. I mainly commute and want comfort over rapid response
Ahhh nice, I haven’t tried those yet but they look like they have decent sweep and look strong
Much appreciated 👍
No sweat homie!
Looks you live somwhere River Blvd, don't you?
Greetz from germany.
Enjoied your Video.
Cheers mate !!
ThankQ
wormbar! 😍
Ayyyyy nice!! 😊
Thanks for the guide, Gary 🤘. My question would be- where do you find these bars? Especially the Wormbar?
Ayyy they are from Japan! Check the links in the description of this video or you can dm them via Instagram. Cheers!
@@garysprojects Oops.. should have checked the links, my bad! Cheers!
@@myfreakyvalentine haha all g!
those long ass bars look super funky, to at all bad just a lil bit strange for me i guess i'm just used to seeing stock mtb bars
Haha yeah probably need to see em fully set up on a bike that matches it ! Gotta be more comfy than the old 560mm flat bars though 😅😅
@@garysprojects for sure lmaoo
Hi Gary, great vid. May I ask, what brand are the grips shown on the nitto albatross bars? They look like they have embossed sea creatures on them?
Cheers mate ! They are old profile grips, wwf collab grips !
@@garysprojects so sick
@@orange-peeler hell ya !
great exercise and great for pulling kids in a trailer
Definitely!!
PLEASE!!
Gary, can you post the link for the stem that the Wald 828 bars were mounted on. Orange painted frame, 4th on the line up.
I want to build a 26" cruiser with it.
Please mate?
Hahah I got mine second hand so I don’t have a link it’s a sakae mts100 you can try search on eBay/ fb marketplace etc
Moto/bmx bars are the best bars
Haha yes they are fun !
Thank u.
No worries!
What brakes are those? 1:30
I noticed the 3 spots for the levers, what does that adjust?
old shimano servo wave levers , they let you adjust the modulation of the brake
@@garysprojects Thx Gary👍👍👍
hey mate. First time i've seen one of your videos. I did notice something, you sound like an Aussie but you have your front brake on the wrong side?!
Hahah it’s the correct side !
@@garysprojects not in Australia 😉. There are definitely different sides depending on countries, even brand names . Occasionally we’ll get customer’s bikes through like that and it throws you for a six! Even motorbikes are the same, front brake on the right
Hey, I'm from Melbourne as well, and was wondering how you got these bars in Australia?
Black moto from eBay
Wald from eBay
Silver moto from fb marketplace
Albatross fb martketplace
Wormbar & Mothbar from Japan
love wide handlebar, great vdo.
Thank you my dude! Wide bars are fun!
Hey Gary, what is the front rack on the Diamond back with Blygo bars? Looks sturdy.
It’s a Lekker front rack 👍
@@garysprojects Cheers
Do you think ESI Silicone grips would work on Motorcross bars such as the Suzuki ones?
Yeah should be same diameter 👍👍👍
What bars would you recommend with a crust clydesdale fork? Currently running a Fun 3 Bar. Looking to try out something different.
I would try the moto bars if you want something different , because the other bars will feel pretty similar to your fun 3 bar 👍
have you tried the surly corner bars yet? ive kinda been looking at them to keep my brakes...
I haven’t! They look fun though ! You should be able to keep your mtb brakes on all the bars I mention here, only if you goto drop bars you might have to change
I just yanked a no rise mothbar off a Kona. Is it still called a mothbar if it has no rise at all?
Mothbar is made by magic components, but you can call it whatever you like 😂
Hi new to bikes I just picked up a trek 950 with chromoly frame. Will the mothbar fit on my bike?
yes it will fit 👍
Do the moth bars work with bar end shifters?
I just tired with shimano ones , the end goes in but super tight, you would have to mod / sand them to fit. Maybe other brand with smaller inserts might work
@@garysprojects thanks for checking!
Damn they wide...
I search some info for long(not extremely, just 40km/~25m but still). Now I ride bullhorns and found that little bit nervous for long rides and it's thinness give me a headache to make the thicker.
I've seen Surely handlebar, interested in it, but it is too pricey. There I kind a like Moth handlebar, but it be too wide. I take bullhorn handlebar because more typical MTB handlebar just pissed me off with going through doors and etc. Wish something with 30-45 degree sweep in horizontal plane and which I can push down to around 30 degree on vertical plane.
Will appreciate any info even if it be links for forums where I can ask about. Thanks anyway for reading it. 👍
mmm maybe try simworks “get around”” bars or nitto b802 if im understanding you right
Actually close enough even if it feels little bit wider that I wish. Really. Thanks.
is the suzuki drz400 mislabeled? I searched for it but only found a dirt bike
It’s Suzuki drz400 oem handlebars , it’s the handlebars that come stock on that dirt bike if that makes sense
I know it depend on many things but the you feel a difference because of the weight between normal bike bar and motocros bar?
Only if you compare a moto bike bike to a very light bar (e.g. albatross) other wise not that much difference. Really depends on material the bar is made out of
@@garysprojects good ! Cuz im looking to buy second hand the same handlebar as you the suzuki one . I really like the style and the hand position . Im juste not sure because of the weight ..
@@danielfaucher8063 nice I think they are about 1kg if I remember right
Anything with too much sweep is just too slow, doesn't let me pedal efficiently. For relaxed bikes I go with narrow risers.
Nice man do ya thing!! Narrow bars are also good for traffic
6:30 what is that georgeous orange bar?
Wald 828 / 898
The bike is wicked fatchance , did a resto video on it a while back if keen !
@@garysprojects meant to say what is the bike, I somehow missed that resto, its on the watch next, thanks!
@@oreocarlton3343 cheers mate!
what stem is that with the wald bar?
Sakae mts100
Video bravo
Thank you !
@@garysprojects 👍
What stem is at 9.30?
It’s a cook bros. racing dog bone stem !
Have you ever try to bend a handlebar yourself to change any dimension of it?
Not purposely haha! Only bent them when I rode too hard :/
NONE of the available options in handlebars can make a claim to being ergonomically correct, especially not the sweeps. I cannot understand this. How difficult can this be? Sit on a bike, stretch your arms out to a comfortable position, and look at the natural alignment of the wrists. It is NOT the same as the angle of any of these bars where a rider's hands normally rest. At least in the case of a straight bar, a resting position for the hands is essentially horizontal, but a lot of weight winds up being placed on a bent wrist. An ergonomic bar would sweep back gradually, and then turn slightly outward again to meet the natural resting angle of the wrist. Currently available sweeps do not do that. And, as a result, they are not optimally comfortable, and they steer like a boat tiller. I could design a better bar in an afternoon. That bar would align with the wrist while not over loading that joint.
I would like to try the bar you described to see if worked or not , sounds interesting
🤜-----m-----🤛Magic Components is killing it right now, Worm and Moth bars look 🤌The Moth is an Albatross that likes to shred! I just started riding a set of Wald 8038 bars and they feel pretty great, really similar to the worm bar and super cheap, just hope I don't bend 'em. Thanks Gary!
Awesome mate glad you were able to find something similar !! Yes they are !! Glad they are making great stuff for old mtbs!! Def a need for it in my eyes 😂