This is soo interesting thank you! I'm half black and half Italian and i have always been fascinated by the intersection of African American experience and the Italian American experience. I think the resistance to allowing both groups to assimilate is what makes both cultures soo strong. I am 4th generation Italian American and am still very much connected to the culture.
Such a rich history. So many stories from south philly alone about interracial dating and assimilation of Italians. Be it known that Italians learned racism as part of their assimilation. There was plenty of common ground and my favorite example is Louis Prima and his work with Jazz in New Orleans
Europeans are white i dont care where from Europe they come from even turkish people are white, anglos are extremely jealous of romance whites because anglos are dull sooo dull they find more reasons for hierarchy within their own...
I grew up in NYC. It just seemed like Italians didn't really consider themselves to be white but "Italian". Also when Italians and Sicilians immigrated to the United States some had to change their names to sound more Anglo Saxon and also assimilate. They assimilated so hard that they became Karen' and Ken's. Growing up in NYC was weird. So many different races, nationalities and ethnicities but can be racist af.
@@davidparker9676 everyone that emigrated to America had to go through a proving process. there is no race that was exempt. the difference with blacks is that even after 400 years they can't show any valid contributions to our society. All they can show is crime, ghettos and violence and they are treated accordingly.
I feel like this is why so many of us have lost the language in comparison to the Latino community and to be honest, it makes me sad. I grew up with the culture but not the language and I would have loved the opportunity to grow up bilingual. Now I have to struggle on the back side to learn what I can when it could have been natural
to be fair to your grandparents or parents, Spanish is the second most common spoken language here in the US and have enough numbers to make it much more useful. If Italians had the numerical ratio Spanish speakers have it would be a very different attitude, so there were macro forces involved in you not learning it. Plus its not taught in schools, youre much more likely to find Latin being taught than Italian.
Alberto in my village and area we spoke our dialect and only learned Italian at school ( in Italy) this is in the 60s. So Italians in the USA didn’t go there speaking Italian but their own dialects
Maintaining a language for several generations is actually a bad thing. The Latinos actually delay assimilation, put their kids at a disadvantage in education and the language is eventually lost anyway. It is simply delaying the inevitable for no reason but pride. The culture is eventually lost as well. Ask any real Italian if they see Italian-Americans as Italians... They see them as Americans. You are fooling yourself if you think that you are "Italian" if you are a so called Italian-American... Just get over yourself and call yourself American. Welcome to the fold, drop the hyphen already.
What's that? .. . ITALIANS aren't white aye? Well then, I guess THAT means that ohhhhhhhhh let's see? .. . Christina Ricci, Leonardo DiCaprio, the Mona Lisa, Madonna, the Pope, John Travolta, Marlon Brando, Frank "old blue eyes" Sinatra, Leonardo Da Vinci, Benito Mussolini, Jay Leno, Sophia Loren, Rudolf Valentino, Federico Fellini, Sylvester Stallone, Lou Costello, Robert DeNiro, John Belushi, Luciano Pavarotti, Ennio Morricone, Asia Argento, Dom Deluise, Susan Lucci, kindly old Gepetto and lovable old Pinnochio are all "not white" .. . ? And I always thought THEY were! Maybe I'm color blind?
Your white technically on papers and documents because you are of European descent .In fact I'm even considered white on paper as a light skinned latino from the u.s but I'm rarely considered white , if you guys ,along with Spaniards and Greeks arent white then us Latinos definitely aren't .
Very educational and interesting discussion. Really brings much clarity into the phenomenon of how & why U.S. classism and racist policies targeting Italian immigrants to the U.S., became eventually embraced by many within it.
@@ronniekassis6089 Thanks for sharing the “Italics” video. Peter Vallon’s research validates my memory as a child in the 50s when I understood and often heard Italian Americans referred to as “other” than white. I didn’t understand the American caste system at that time. Unfortunately, many Americans today deny the fact that there is a caste system in this country or are ignorant of it.
What's this? .. . Italians not white aye? Well then, I guess THAT means that ohhhhhhhhh let's see? .. . the Mona Lisa is “not white”? Madonna is “not white”? The Pope is “not white”? John Travolta is “not white”? Marlon Brando is “not white”? Frank "old blue eyes" Sinatra is “not white”? The figures depicted in the Last Supper painting are “not white”? Benito Mussolini is “not white”? Jay Leno is “not white”? Sophia Loren is “not white”? Rudolf Valentino is “not white”? Federico Fellini is “not white”? Sylvester Stallone is “not white”? Lou Costello is “not white”? Robert DeNiro is “not white”? John Belushi was “not white”? Sergio Leon was “not white”? Ennio Morricone is “not white”? Asia Argento is “not white”? Dom Deluise is “not white”? Antonio Vivaldi is “not white”? Ornella Muti is “not white”? Mama Celleste ("Abandanza!") is “not white”? and Gepetto and Pinnochio are “not white”? . .. and I always thought they were white! Maybe I'm color blind?
You Southern browns are certainly not the ones responsible for creating the great Italian culture in case that’s what your attempting to claim. For example, just take a good long look at those famous paintings from the 16th and 17th centuries - you’ll notice that all of the people depicted in them, including the artists themselves in their own self-portraits, look white.
This discussion shows us that even an all-white community has a huge range of diversity. Sadly, these days all people with white skin are incorrectly defined as part of one monolithic culture, which is racist.
@Filippo My point was that even though there has been ethnic mixing across Europe, there are still many distinct European cultures and languages. Lots of diversity even though they are all Caucasian.
@@torbreww That's not the fault of others. White people branded themselves as different and superior to others over the centuries. So don't be surprised if others see you as one monolithic group.
@@user-pd9ju5dk5s Historically, European nations saw themselves as distinct from other "white" nations, with competing empires and a long history of extremely violent warfare between them.
@@torbreww Doesn't change the fact they also considered "white" race as a superior and distinct group from other races and taught this to colored people. Two things can be true at once. Dont get mad people subscribe to a view they themselves espoused
What's that? .. . ITALIANS aren't white aye? Well then, I guess THAT means that ohhhhhhhhh let's see? .. . the Mona Lisa, Madonna, the Pope, John Travolta, Marlon Brando, Frank "old blue eyes" Sinatra, Leonardo Da Vinci, Benito Mussolini, The figures depicted in the Last Supper painting, Rudolf Valentino, Sergio Leon, Antonio Vivaldi, Ornella Muti, Mama Celleste ("Abandanza!"), Gepetto and Pinnochio are all “not white”? And I always thought THEY were! Maybe I'm color blind?
@Random User Wana know HOW I have always been able to discern what is referred to as "race" - white, black, Asian, red, and even mixed? .. . a little something known as simple good old fashioned natural reliable OCULAR VISION - commonly known as EYESIGHT - and COMMON SENSE!! . .. and THAT is also how most OTHER people whom I've known have been able to. Now anyone possessing THOSE TWO faculties SHOULD have no difficulty discerning and distinguishing it.
Leonardo DiCaprio has alot of German ancestors. Robert denero is mostly Irish, German and a bit Italian. Marion brando has zero percent Italian in him, he famous said after being offered the role of the don in the god father "I am not Italian, how do I know how to play an Italian"
The majority of people you listed are barely Italian 😂😂😂 therefore do not represent the Italian American struggle or commumity. Rudolpha Valetino and Sophia Loren are and so are Sinatra. Guess what? They all faced discrimination. Rudolph Valentine was the original Latin Lover and was seen as the "other" on the screen.
@@delgi9551 Yeah, THEY were so "discriminated" against that they got to make it big in Hollywood and play LEADING ROLES at that, lmao! Tell me another one.
What's this? .. . Italians not white aye? Well then, I guess THAT means that ohhhhhhhhh let's see? .. . the Mona Lisa is “not white”? Madonna is “not white”? The Pope is “not white”? John Travolta is “not white”? Marlon Brando is “not white”? Frank "old blue eyes" Sinatra is “not white”? The figures depicted in the Last Supper painting are “not white”? Benito Mussolini is “not white”? Jay Leno is “not white”? Sophia Loren is “not white”? Rudolf Valentino is “not white”? Federico Fellini is “not white”? Sylvester Stallone is “not white”? Lou Costello is “not white”? Robert DeNiro is “not white”? John Belushi was “not white”? Sergio Leon was “not white”? Ennio Morricone is “not white”? Asia Argento is “not white”? Dom Deluise is “not white”? Antonio Vivaldi is “not white”? Ornella Muti is “not white”? Mama Celleste ("Abandanza!") is “not white”? and Gepetto and Pinnochio are “not white”? . .. and I always thought they were white! Maybe I'm color blind?
Mario Cuomo was going to run in the 80’s and the media claimed his wife’s family was “connected “ they definitely don’t seem particularly eager for a Guinea president but if they get the right spineless puppet with a vowel at the end of his/her name they’ll put ‘em right in there
Italians are the only group that came here and had to change their Italian name to sound more American sounding because the Racism was so bad towards them, can you imagine Jose Sanchez having too change his name to Joe Sanch !!!
Something to keep in mind I know this now not all people who hail from Europe is white. Europe in the South and East has Arab influence and East Asians made their mark on the Middle East back then. There are some Middle Easterners that u can see Asian influence
" I have always wondered why there is so much animosity against "black" people from Italian Americans." because blacks are dumb, violent, and destroy any community the move to
The people saying Romans were caucasian obviously do not understand the difference between culture and race. The everyday white anglo American is NOT an ethnic: not Italian, Jew, Greek, etc. Mediterranean people are gentically and culturally different from northwestern Euros as northern Italy considers us southerners like Ethiopia. Just look at the culture of Sicily, Saridina, and southern Italy. It is vastly different from the north and Germanic/Anglo cultures. Ya'll don't realize that Romans were Latins. Latins influenced Spain and Portugal made them Latin and then they influenced Latin America. This Latin and Roman heritage is absent today in Latin European countries as well as Latin-American countries and in fact if you want to know just how non Anglo-Saxon people from Italy are just look at the rate discrimination that Italians had in Latin America: Brazil, Chile, Argentina, Uruguay, Venezuela, Paraguay. It was close to none and that is obvious to anybody who understands Roman heritage and Latin mediterranean influence because Italians rose to the highest parts of society right away in LA bc they are of Latin heritage. They are Roman Catholics. They speak a Latin language and have Roman principles, values, and mores. Where as the average white American in North America was actually white Anglo-Saxon protestant and very different from mediterranean cultures. What that means is The driving force in white America card today mainstream America is definitely not Italian's nor Jews nor Greeks even if they are Caucasian by blood I mean there are Cubans that are Caucasian by blood and many all their Latin Americans so this argument doesn't prove validity. Because for some reason those groups are considered non white. The point is people from Italy have always had a different culture than predominant white America I'm sorry but Italians are just lumped into the white category because of politics. Socially they distance themselves from medegan culture and mangia cake culture. Think about it: white girls listen to country music, move out the second they turn 18, have more loyalty to their bf or friends than their family, eat non-ethnic food, etc. What Italian American girl or Italian girl is ever stereotyped like that? They're not. They are the mob wives, the mothers, the grandmothers, the fiesty ones, the flavor in food, all of the above. I'm sorry when I think of Rossella Rago, Laura Vitale, Chazz Palminteri, Alessia Cara, Jose Pesci, I do not think of white people. I think of ethnics. And If you genuinely disagree that I feel like you are in denial of your ethnic heritage and have forgotten your roots in this country. I call these Italian people sellouts.
Italians are culturally really similar to Hispanics though especially if they look or are mostly Spanish descent like my salvadorian familia.P.s you mentioned white girls listen to country music , alot of Italians actually like country too , that being said the community which is mostly a Anglo white style of music doesnt always like or welcome Italians, Greeks and il add even Spaniards and Hispanics as well .
Some Italians dont like hearing what you said .Italians as well as some uneducated Latinos usually from the u.s think theres nothing in common between us I've literally had to explain the history of the terms Hispanic or latino .
I don't know how anybody can look at your average everyday Southern Italian American and just place them into a white category like they're some hillbillies with no culture like I'm sorry by it they are a mediterranean people and they are Latin by heritage and you can see this with many Italian American celebrities. Literally we look ethnic
The original latins we're/are Indo-European people's. Latin is an Indo-European language as are all of the romance languages (Italian, Spanish, French, Portuguese, and romanian). I'm 100% Italian by blood and I'm white, cut the bullshit. Stop being ashamed of being white/of European descent. White people have plenty of culture some of the richest in the world.
@@GDino34 bro come to balkan u gonna be schocked if you never seen brown european muslim 100 percent european lol I dont understand the american whitness made by western europeans from north regions who were pale
And who the hell are you Sherlock!!! Can you tell me who died and made you an expert??? VA ha cacare, quando hai finito, lavati IL culo per bene. Cretino!!!
Uhhhh WHAT is with the "In honor of Black History Month" bit in the description? .. . THAT is something that I seem to be missing. THIS video seems to have very little to do with BLACK people. Or is it supposed to be "honoring" blacks just because it's ganking on white people?
What's this? .. . Italians not white aye? Well then, I guess THAT means that ohhhhhhhhh let's see? .. . the Mona Lisa is “not white”? Madonna is “not white”? The Pope is “not white”? John Travolta is “not white”? Marlon Brando is “not white”? Frank "old blue eyes" Sinatra is “not white”? The figures depicted in the Last Supper painting are “not white”? Benito Mussolini is “not white”? Jay Leno is “not white”? Sophia Loren is “not white”? Rudolf Valentino is “not white”? Federico Fellini is “not white”? Sylvester Stallone is “not white”? Lou Costello is “not white”? Robert DeNiro is “not white”? John Belushi was “not white”? Sergio Leon was “not white”? Ennio Morricone is “not white”? Asia Argento is “not white”? Dom Deluise is “not white”? Antonio Vivaldi is “not white”? Ornella Muti is “not white”? Mama Celleste ("Abandanza!") is “not white”? and Gepetto and Pinnochio are “not white”? . .. and I always thought they were white! Maybe I'm color blind?
@Filippo okay I don't agree with everything she said, but you're way out of line. I see a lot of your comments and not only are you wrong, but you're a rude bully. Your logic is flawed and your arguments are weak. Also, you are not speaking for the rest of us just because we all happen to be Italian. You must be a really miserable, unsatisfied person to constantly attack random people on RUclips etc.
@Filippo the same could be said for you. You don't know any of us but you refuse to shut the fuck up after you've judged and belittled and bullied and given your unwelcomed opinion repeatedly. Nobody asked you and nobody cares. You're been wrong every time you've said anything. It seems like a sign from above to again, shut the fuck up.
My people were from southcentral Italy east of Rome. When my grandfather came as a very young man in 1913 he was listed as "Race - Southern Italian" on his Ellis Island port of entry registration. When my grandmother came very late in life in 1952 she was listed on same registry a Italian. Today the sad fact (I believe) is that Italians no longer remember who they were, how they got here and how they were treated when they did; and the same goes for the Irish. Unfortunately they now do the same terrible things to the people who are coming here for a better life.
Could not agree more. Italy was and largely still is a land of tribes, not homogeneous people. Southern Italians still to this day face extreme racism as the power structure of northern Italy views them as a different "race" let alone the white supremacists of the US.
More Italians served and gave their lives for this country during WW2 then any other ethnic group by far, yet we are still discriminated against in some form or another, the second Italians say there last name we are automatically looked at differently or stereotyped with out a doubt!!
I thought it was Americans that fought and died, while the Italians were doing the goose step with Mussolini. I don't respect hyphenated Americans because their loyalty is to a country that they have no connection to. Why else would they put that country first, in front of American?
@@MartyZang most did and still do, my family is colombian and Italian mixed. Both sides look practically the same with olive skin and dark almost black hair
The etymology of "master" comes from latin "Magister" (Actual italian form is "Maestro") The etymology of Science comes from latin"Scientia" (Actual italian form is "Scienza") The etymology of "music" comes from latin "musica" Actual italian form is "musica" The etymology of "architecture" comes from latin "Architectura" Actual italian form is "Architettura" The etymology of "Literature" comes from latin " Literatura" actual italian form: "Letteratura" The etymology of "Fiction" from latin " fictio-fictiones" The etymology of "Poetry" from medieval latin "poetria" actual italian form is "Poesia" "The etymology of "Poet" comes from latin "Poeta" actual italian form is " Poeta" The etymology of " engine" come from latin "ingenium" Actual italian form is "ingegno" (" avere ingegno" meaning someone who is smart while the actual italian form for engine is " motore" like "motor" in english) The etymology of " genius" come from latin "Genius" and the italian form is "Genio" The etymology of "Street" comes from latin "Strata" Actual italian form is " strada". The etymology of " engineer" as a verb comes from latin " ingeniare" Actual italian form is " ingegnarsi" while engineer as a job title is " ingegnere" Once more, the etymology of "physic" cokes from latin "Physica" and the italian form is "Fisica" the etymology of "atoms," comes from Latin atomi, plural of atomus. Actual italian form is "atomi" the etymology of "Designer" comes from latin " disegnare" and the actual italian form is " disegnare". the etymology of "Anatomy" comes from latin " Anatomia" and actual italian form is " Anatomia". the etymology of " Perspective" comes from latin " Perspectiva" and the actual italian is "prospettiva". The etymology of " Republic" comes from latin "Res pubblica" the actual italian form is "Repubblica". The etymology of President" comes from latin "presidente" actual italian form is " presidente" The etymology of" Senat" comes from latin " Senatus" Actual italian form is " Senato". The etymology of " Culture" comes from latin "Cultura" and to be more precise from " Cultus, as past participle of colere " the act of promoting cultivation". in Italian: " coltivazione". the etymology of "Intelligent" comes from present participle latin " intelligens- intelligentis, whose infinitive form is " intelligere" meaning " investigate" I begin to get tired. 😅 Very kind and respectable "Professor-Professore" Maybe for the entire list you could ask Doctor-Dottore Anthony-Antonio Fauci.....😘
Ruben Gargano, non intendevo fare alcuna scoperta straordinaria. Quello che per te o per me e qualcun altro è logico, cioè che la cultura americana (cosí come tutte le culture europee) deriva da quella italiana, non lo è per molte persone, compreso questo professore americano che dice che la cultura italiana e gli italiani non hanno alcun valore. Per giunta di fronte ad un suo collega italo americano. Nessuna volontà di esibizionismo culturale. Solo un naturale fastidio di fronte ad un atteggiamento maleducato e palesemente ignorante. 🙂
What's this? .. . Italians not white aye? Well then, I guess THAT means that ohhhhhhhhh let's see? .. . the Mona Lisa is “not white”? Madonna is “not white”? The Pope is “not white”? John Travolta is “not white”? Marlon Brando is “not white”? Frank "old blue eyes" Sinatra is “not white”? The figures depicted in the Last Supper painting are “not white”? Benito Mussolini is “not white”? Jay Leno is “not white”? Sophia Loren is “not white”? Rudolf Valentino is “not white”? Federico Fellini is “not white”? Sylvester Stallone is “not white”? Lou Costello is “not white”? Robert DeNiro is “not white”? John Belushi was “not white”? Sergio Leon was “not white”? Ennio Morricone is “not white”? Asia Argento is “not white”? Dom Deluise is “not white”? Antonio Vivaldi is “not white”? Ornella Muti is “not white”? Mama Celleste ("Abandanza!") is “not white”? and Gepetto and Pinnochio are “not white”? . .. and I always thought they were white! Maybe I'm color blind?
This professor makes a big mistake by believing that Italian identity did not exist before the unification of Italy. The sources that tell us that it did exist are numerous. The problem is that Italians were exactly like other European peoples: that is, divided into social classes. The rich and noble considered themselves culturally Italian and recognized other Italians, especially when they were in foreign lands, despite the fact that there was no unitary state. In contrast, the poor considered themselves to be from their own town or village. The same thing happened in German-to-German relations. Certainly, being Italian was considered a matter of culture, not race. There are no medieval or modern sources, prior to the 19th century, that assert an inferiority of southerners. There are invectives by citizens of one town against those of another, even within the same region. Thus, the issue is approached by this professor with modern American spectacles. The bias is considerable.
On the other hand, discrimination against Italian immigrants in the U.S. was comparable to that against the Spanish or Irish. The pseudo-racial issue was an excuse. The truth is that the dominant group was Anglo-Saxon (and Germanic in a broader sense) as well as Protestant. The Italians were not. Knowing how Protestants treated Catholics in Europe, one does not need to know much more. Just think of how the British government let the Irish croak, during the food crisis due to potato disease.
Some Italians are some aren't it's a mixed Ethnicity my mother wasn't white. I feel very much Italian cause of the things I saw as a kid up till I was a teenager I felt connected to this culture. I am tracing the city that my mother's people are from.
@Thomas Thats bcs now alot of immigrants from the north immigrated to italy, so therefore it's mixed but they still claim to be italian, even though their DNA is not
What's this? .. . Italians not white aye? Well then, I guess THAT means that ohhhhhhhhh let's see? .. . the Mona Lisa is “not white”? Madonna is “not white”? The Pope is “not white”? John Travolta is “not white”? Marlon Brando is “not white”? Frank "old blue eyes" Sinatra is “not white”? The figures depicted in the Last Supper painting are “not white”? Benito Mussolini is “not white”? Jay Leno is “not white”? Sophia Loren is “not white”? Rudolf Valentino is “not white”? Federico Fellini is “not white”? Sylvester Stallone is “not white”? Lou Costello is “not white”? Robert DeNiro is “not white”? John Belushi was “not white”? Sergio Leon was “not white”? Ennio Morricone is “not white”? Asia Argento is “not white”? Dom Deluise is “not white”? Antonio Vivaldi is “not white”? Ornella Muti is “not white”? Mama Celleste ("Abandanza!") is “not white”? and Gepetto and Pinnochio are “not white”? . .. and I always thought they were white! Maybe I'm color blind?
Notice that even in the lifetimes of many people alive today, Italian surnames tend to be replaced or minimized by people in the public eye. Madonna grew her fame without using her last name as did Lady Gaga...and even Tony Bennett shortened his name from Benedetto. When actress Anne Bancroft won an Academy Award for her role in a 1962 film, she was using this stage name not her given name, reportedly Anna Maria Louisa Italiano. Although some Italian singers entertainers and athletes became famous under their birth names, such as Frank Sinatra and Dion DiMucci, others such Dean Martin reportedly started life different names. Martin seemingly first tried the surname Martini to get away from the more ethnic sounding Dino Paul Crocetti. Although there were Italian conclaves spread throughout the mainland US, many immigrants and their descendants did not spread from a regional concentrations in New York New Jersey in Connecticut and certain areas of Massachusetts and Rhode Island. Now many descendants are finding out why.
National Geographic Project is what I'm using to track my heritage. I don't know if half of my heritage comes from North or the South. But I like Southern Italy cause of the history and how the beaches are
Italians might be caucasians as much as the other Mediterraneans, or may be even white why not they are Europeans after all, but definitely not to be put on the same group as Northern Europeans American white people, nothing in common Italians have great food the sense of the community they respect the family they respect their mothers and take care of them when they got old they don’t abandon them, they still Help each other they stick together they still have a dignity etc
What's this? .. . Italians not white aye? Well then, I guess THAT means that ohhhhhhhhh let's see? .. . the Mona Lisa is “not white”? Madonna is “not white”? The Pope is “not white”? John Travolta is “not white”? Marlon Brando is “not white”? Frank "old blue eyes" Sinatra is “not white”? The figures depicted in the Last Supper painting are “not white”? Benito Mussolini is “not white”? Jay Leno is “not white”? Sophia Loren is “not white”? Rudolf Valentino is “not white”? Federico Fellini is “not white”? Sylvester Stallone is “not white”? Lou Costello is “not white”? Robert DeNiro is “not white”? John Belushi was “not white”? Sergio Leon was “not white”? Ennio Morricone is “not white”? Asia Argento is “not white”? Dom Deluise is “not white”? Antonio Vivaldi is “not white”? Ornella Muti is “not white”? Mama Celleste ("Abandanza!") is “not white”? and Gepetto and Pinnochio are “not white”? . .. and I always thought they were white! Maybe I'm color blind?
Not attacking Italians. It's too bad a few Italians were in Trump's administration & had put laws up as barriers against Latino, Carribean & Africans refugees into the country. Latinos & Italians have told me they can understand eachothers' languages.
It's pathetic how we (Italians) would even entertain the completely American made construction of "whiteness" as a real thing, let alone partake in the absurdity of it as an identity.
What's this? .. . Italians not white aye? Well then, I guess THAT means that ohhhhhhhhh let's see? .. . the Mona Lisa is “not white”? Madonna is “not white”? The Pope is “not white”? John Travolta is “not white”? Marlon Brando is “not white”? Frank "old blue eyes" Sinatra is “not white”? The figures depicted in the Last Supper painting are “not white”? Benito Mussolini is “not white”? Jay Leno is “not white”? Sophia Loren is “not white”? Rudolf Valentino is “not white”? Federico Fellini is “not white”? Sylvester Stallone is “not white”? Lou Costello is “not white”? Robert DeNiro is “not white”? John Belushi was “not white”? Sergio Leon was “not white”? Ennio Morricone is “not white”? Asia Argento is “not white”? Dom Deluise is “not white”? Antonio Vivaldi is “not white”? Ornella Muti is “not white”? Mama Celleste ("Abandanza!") is “not white”? and Gepetto and Pinnochio are “not white”? . .. and I always thought they were white! Maybe I'm color blind?
@cole slaw Color blind....no. Ignorant.....yes. lol Nobody really needs to read any further than your assertion that La Madonna was "white". Do you honestly not know that She was clearly Israeli or are you just putting us on? 🤣
@cole slaw Oh and btw.....Italians (like most non Anglo-Saxon Europeans) don't consider themselves "white" either because it is a TOTALLY uniquely made up category by racists in the United States a few hundred years ago.
@@jhlfsc Oh, is THAT what it is? And I always thought that it was just a kind of DESIGNATION, which humans have been implamenting for only several thousands of years (at least). What would I do without the likes of you to educate me?!
Colonisers from UK have always separated themselves from other 'ethnic' European groups so this 'all Europeans are white' bit is probably because they would have been the minority and all the actual minority immigrant groups would have formed a larger sum....
Yet it was the Spanish & Portuguese who used the Casta system of racial definitions in their colonies, not the British. The largest white group in the USA are people who are of German ancestry. The "British colonisers" wouldn't have considered the Germans as another "ethnic" group, in fact the British invited Germans to settle in their 13 colonies, religion was far more of a concern at that time, they wanted good Protestant settlers.
Who told you that the ancient Romans were dark? The Romans (before their expansion) and especially the imperial Roman houses were mostly white with blond hair. It is obvious that after the expansion of Rome not everyone was blond in Rome. It is important to note that Rome was an empire and you cannot compare it to a Celtic or Germanic tribe. Rome was an empire that expanded throughout almost all of Western Europe reaching the Middle East. Keep in mind that in a Roman legion 60% of the legionaries WERE NOT ROMANS, in a Roman legion there were people from the Middle East, Greeks, Germans, Slavs and Romans, many of them with the intention of acquiring Roman citizenship. All of them make up what a modern Italian is, which is the sum of: Romans + Germanics (Lombards, Ostrogoths, Heruli, Normans) + Greeks + Celts = modern Italian.
Just like the Jews, Southern Europeans are considered white but not quite. A female African American friend summed this up, white Anglo Saxons or northern Europeans are considered the default race and everyone else as the others and I don`t this attitude has changed much today.
Oggi gli italiani non hanno più problemi in america, da ratti e ruba lavoro associati agli africani a persone cool con una cultura favolosa. È importante fare film su quel periodo e fare parallelismi sulla percezione degli Italiani nel mondo della bianchezza angloamericana.
Well for the majority of the northern Europe originating white Americans, southern Europeans werent considered typically white and i believe they inherited these perceptions from Europe. Still till these days in Europe you can see how southerns are downlooked and this was more obvious when southerns immigrated in the north (Germany,Scandinavia etc). There are subdivisions in the white race (Meditarranean,Nordics,Dinaric etc) with the nordic race (blue eyes,blonde hair) being considered superior by some racist northern anthropologists.
@Richard Nobaz Ι am not wrong at all search it up about the movements in anthropology and biologists of northern german speaking mainly countries from the late 19th century and how they wanted to construct a myth that the nordic race is superior and how the ruling class of the meditarranean great civilizations was mostly of the nordic race. An then the behaviour of the northern Europeans against southern immigrants from italy greece and spain and even in Australlia where they called them wogs, because of their tanned skin colour and their brown eyes
@Filippo I am Greek and southern Europeans when immigrated in Australlia or in northern Europe (sweden,germany) were definately downlooked,unless you are completely unaware of immigrations history and because as a tourist that spends money didnt have this attitude. I am not talking about tourists right now
Not to sow racial divisions, but after first learning the story of our treatment upon our first arriving in great numbers, i was horrified and in disbelief...and most of all furious...plus I felt deceived and like it had been kept a secret my whole life and that Italian Americans of prior generations want to pretend it never happened and erase the sub human label put upon us from history. The second thing i thought was the fact that some northern Europeans are so racist that they consider southern Italians (and Mediterranean people in general), literally one shade darker than northern Europeans, as suddenly in a subhuman category made it crystal clear how disgusting and warped that whole "pathologically white" northern European world view is...and what's sick is how many people of various ethnicities are desperate to be in the club, rather than to permanently destroy the whole paradigm! its sociopathic. its evil. Tribalism is natural and innate, but I call racism "pathological tribalism". Its ultimately an incestuous world view. We are primitive creatures and we can choose to live either from the forebrain or the hindbrain. I dont believe we are born "non-racist" in a certain sense or degree as many well meaning people claim as tribalism is part of our DNA as humans, but a modern day human has to share the planet and cooperate and experience other cultures and consciously talk down the hindbrain from which the excessive and pathologic levels of tribalism stems. Its a process of healthy maturation to fully shed ones non pathological tribalism, but a very necessary one, especially in our highly interconnected modern human existence (this is much easier for someone of highly mixed parentage but possible for anyone) ...it is something that doesnt necessarily come natural to people who dont travel but it is something everyone should endeavor to do, and consciously work on it as part of being a good human being and practicing good social hygiene. ....and while all that may be true, we still must all find a way to keep our unique cultural identities in a future more multicultural world, but also ensure we teach our future generations to embrace and enjoy our differences (and to travel) so that we can finally become a unified species and ensure we can continue to maintain life on this planet. we need to work as one to protect our environment and end war for good...dehumanization of the enemy precedes every war in history so all war is ultimately tribal war. For if the two nations felt sufficient kinship they wouldnt be able to dehumanize them first which is necessary to motivate great numbers of men to view another group as deserving slaughter.
I see that the propaganda messaging has worked on you. Are you equally upset that the white Irish were treated even more unfairly and seen as subhuman undesirables lower than the Black population? The Irish were seen as lower than the Italians and badly mistreated by the Italian-American community. Are you going to write several paragraphs about your disgust of the Italian-American treatment of the Irish? I am just asking because the "whites" were in no way a unified group, they are only unified in the minds of other racial groups to claim conspiracy theories against the white boogie man.
@@davidparker9676 I think you have it backwards the Irish were here first and miss treated Italian’s because they were already here in greater numbers and had already been accepted as white. Germans and Scandinavians were also called “swarthy” and less than fully white which is mind blowing to me and something i didn’t know when i wrote the original comment.
I doubt the native Americans that Columbus & his men fed to their dogs would think Italians were that hard done by in comparison to their peoples suffering.
@@AlbertManiscalco So you are not going to write several paragraphs about Irish mistreatment because they are not of your tribe. It is obvious that you are only concerned about Italians and everyone else was privileged because YOU consider them as a homogeneous ethnic group. My people were second class citizens and in many cases driven out of several areas because they were from the wrong country. Fast forward to now, the history revisionists now say how much power we had and how the system was built for us... BS! My ancestors struggled, fleeing oppression at home and arrived penniless to even more oppression and struggle in the US. They didn't cry and moan about it, they just worked themselves to death to give a better life to their kids. As immigrants to the US, everyone had to struggle and was not welcomed in with a red carpet and a parade. The Italian experience is not unique, we all struggled to make our place in the new world.
@@Pommy1957 Columbus was one guy. And there were other worse conquistadors as well. You can’t generalize about an entire culture from one person and have a legitimate argument
Well you understand that fascism was hated by Hitler because it didn't have anything to do with race. Mussolini didn't care about it like that. That's why he created national socialism any injected some serious systemic racism.
My birth mother I don't consider her white. Sicilians and Southern Europeans are mixed Caucasians. That's what I think I was adopted so I don't know her family that well
To Mr.FRANCIS COPPOLA , and MR. MARTIN SCORSESE, I CONGRATULATED THEM BUT WHAT ABOUT AN ITALIAN MOVIE LIKE 1860 IN SOUTH ITALY. THROUG HISTORY AND NOT JUST MAFIA?
Gavin DS (DS Dipshit) ..It's "American" patriot, you idiot. Learn how to spell, You can't even spell American and you're knocking Italians. You're a joke.
@@bored_of_the_psyop4126 Italians are overall whiter than central europeans almost. I think YOU are an arab and you're jealous about Italy. Stay in your slum
Yes, interesting how the Easter Bunny and Santa can cover so much land and deliver goodies to the kiddos, it is all fueled by whiteness and white supremacy. Great research indeed!
Always looking for victimhood. My grandfather was put in the back of the classroom as a child because teacher refused to teach Italians. He never went ON AND ON AND ON about it. Move on
Easy to move on when no one is hating on you anymore for being Italian. Italians didn't just sit by and take it, they fought back, something you clearly don't respect.
That's the problem, it was that mentality that causes the ignorance about this racist country to continue, and why 99% of Italians dnt no Shxt about their culture, just bs American propaganda, that YOU and others continue, and other Italians want to cover up, good luck with that FASCIST IDEOLOGY sir ✌🏽#GetEducated
He might have in his own mind. Maybe he spared you the details. Suppression can possibly lead to depression. Not cool. Next time you're mistreated or offended, keep it to yourself.
European another way of saying white?? LOL I am Greek and though I am white skinned myself, my cousins are all tanned and olive like. Are they to be considered whiter than Siberian Russians because they inhabit the european continent while Russians the Asian one?? Nope, whiteness isn't just geographically reduced in Europe. North Africa, SIberia and much of the middle east is white or at least olive-tanned yet caucasian too.
As a Black in America I don't see how Italians can mistaken for anything but White. Look at Roman history. They were civilized centuries before Western Europe.
You want to lump everyone in under white. My culture is too vast and rich for people like you to cudgel us into a generalized blanket statement. We can say you blacks aren’t African if you live in the States
This is soo interesting thank you! I'm half black and half Italian and i have always been fascinated by the intersection of African American experience and the Italian American experience. I think the resistance to allowing both groups to assimilate is what makes both cultures soo strong. I am 4th generation Italian American and am still very much connected to the culture.
Such a rich history. So many stories from south philly alone about interracial dating and assimilation of Italians. Be it known that Italians learned racism as part of their assimilation. There was plenty of common ground and my favorite example is Louis Prima and his work with Jazz in New Orleans
wether italians are "white" in the eyes of americans or not is more of an american problem than an italian problem.
@Thomas HERE you dummies ruclips.net/video/Tju7FJ7K1r4/видео.html
@Thomas .. true
Italians aren’t white
@Thomas ..true
Europeans are white i dont care where from Europe they come from even turkish people are white, anglos are extremely jealous of romance whites because anglos are dull sooo dull they find more reasons for hierarchy within their own...
I grew up in NYC. It just seemed like Italians didn't really consider themselves to be white but "Italian". Also when Italians and Sicilians immigrated to the United States some had to change their names to sound more Anglo Saxon and also assimilate. They assimilated so hard that they became Karen' and Ken's. Growing up in NYC was weird. So many different races, nationalities and ethnicities but can be racist af.
This is a lot like Adelaide and Melbourne Australia. Italians every where, many you don't mess with > < but still racist af
The Anglo-Saxon immigrants changed their names to assimilate too. Your points are ignorant of the most basic facts.
@@davidparker9676 everyone that emigrated to America had to go through a proving process. there is no race that was exempt. the difference with blacks is that even after 400 years they can't show any valid contributions to our society. All they can show is crime, ghettos and violence and they are treated accordingly.
I feel like this is why so many of us have lost the language in comparison to the Latino community and to be honest, it makes me sad. I grew up with the culture but not the language and I would have loved the opportunity to grow up bilingual. Now I have to struggle on the back side to learn what I can when it could have been natural
Same gen z ..‘Italian from long-island NEW YORK
to be fair to your grandparents or parents, Spanish is the second most common spoken language here in the US and have enough numbers to make it much more useful. If Italians had the numerical ratio Spanish speakers have it would be a very different attitude, so there were macro forces involved in you not learning it. Plus its not taught in schools, youre much more likely to find Latin being taught than Italian.
Alberto in my village and area we spoke our dialect and only learned Italian at school ( in Italy) this is in the 60s. So Italians in the USA didn’t go there speaking Italian but their own dialects
Maintaining a language for several generations is actually a bad thing. The Latinos actually delay assimilation, put their kids at a disadvantage in education and the language is eventually lost anyway. It is simply delaying the inevitable for no reason but pride. The culture is eventually lost as well.
Ask any real Italian if they see Italian-Americans as Italians... They see them as Americans. You are fooling yourself if you think that you are "Italian" if you are a so called Italian-American... Just get over yourself and call yourself American. Welcome to the fold, drop the hyphen already.
@@davidparker9676 Interesting… I never said I wasn’t an American. I said I wish I was bilingual. Read it again.
I never considered myself why I always thought about myself as Italian and different then whites
What's that? .. . ITALIANS aren't white aye? Well then, I guess THAT means that ohhhhhhhhh let's see? .. . Christina Ricci, Leonardo DiCaprio, the Mona Lisa, Madonna, the Pope, John Travolta, Marlon Brando, Frank "old blue eyes" Sinatra, Leonardo Da Vinci, Benito Mussolini, Jay Leno, Sophia Loren, Rudolf Valentino, Federico Fellini, Sylvester Stallone, Lou Costello, Robert DeNiro, John Belushi, Luciano Pavarotti, Ennio Morricone, Asia Argento, Dom Deluise, Susan Lucci, kindly old Gepetto and lovable old Pinnochio are all "not white" .. . ? And I always thought THEY were! Maybe I'm color blind?
He's a whigga!
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@John Doe you're insane. We Italiand have culture. White people don't. I'm not a medigan
Your white technically on papers and documents because you are of European descent .In fact I'm even considered white on paper as a light skinned latino from the u.s but I'm rarely considered white , if you guys ,along with Spaniards and Greeks arent white then us Latinos definitely aren't .
Very educational and interesting discussion. Really brings much clarity into the phenomenon of how & why U.S. classism and racist policies targeting Italian immigrants to the U.S., became eventually embraced by many within it.
This type of thinking by the americanos keeps facista alive
@@ronniekassis6089 Thanks for sharing the “Italics” video. Peter Vallon’s research validates my memory as a child in the 50s when I understood and often heard Italian Americans referred to as “other” than white. I didn’t understand the American caste system at that time. Unfortunately, many Americans today deny the fact that there is a caste system in this country or are ignorant of it.
This video rerflects the reality of Italians and the prejudice they deal/dealt with.
What's this? .. . Italians not white aye? Well then, I guess THAT means that ohhhhhhhhh let's see? .. . the Mona Lisa is “not white”? Madonna is “not white”? The Pope is “not white”? John Travolta is “not white”? Marlon Brando is “not white”? Frank "old blue eyes" Sinatra is “not white”? The figures depicted in the Last Supper painting are “not white”? Benito Mussolini is “not white”? Jay Leno is “not white”? Sophia Loren is “not white”? Rudolf Valentino is “not white”? Federico Fellini is “not white”? Sylvester Stallone is “not white”? Lou Costello is “not white”? Robert DeNiro is “not white”? John Belushi was “not white”? Sergio Leon was “not white”? Ennio Morricone is “not white”? Asia Argento is “not white”? Dom Deluise is “not white”? Antonio Vivaldi is “not white”? Ornella Muti is “not white”? Mama Celleste ("Abandanza!") is “not white”? and Gepetto and Pinnochio are “not white”? . .. and I always thought they were white! Maybe I'm color blind?
You Southern browns are certainly not the ones responsible for creating the great Italian culture in case that’s what your attempting to claim. For example, just take a good long look at those famous paintings from the 16th and 17th centuries - you’ll notice that all of the people depicted in them, including the artists themselves in their own self-portraits, look white.
This discussion shows us that even an all-white community has a huge range of diversity. Sadly, these days all people with white skin are incorrectly defined as part of one monolithic culture, which is racist.
@Filippo My point was that even though there has been ethnic mixing across Europe, there are still many distinct European cultures and languages. Lots of diversity even though they are all Caucasian.
@@torbreww That's not the fault of others. White people branded themselves as different and superior to others over the centuries. So don't be surprised if others see you as one monolithic group.
@@user-pd9ju5dk5s Historically, European nations saw themselves as distinct from other "white" nations, with competing empires and a long history of extremely violent warfare between them.
@@torbreww Doesn't change the fact they also considered "white" race as a superior and distinct group from other races and taught this to colored people. Two things can be true at once.
Dont get mad people subscribe to a view they themselves espoused
HERE you dummies ruclips.net/video/Tju7FJ7K1r4/видео.html
Our difference go much deeper than skin colour
Yes sure does
@Alfa&Omega 00000 Cultural things
@john vento What u on about?
@john vento Coward about what dont understand what u getting at. please speak English not American I dont have a translator on me.
@john vento have a guess?
What's that? .. . ITALIANS aren't white aye? Well then, I guess THAT means that ohhhhhhhhh let's see? .. . the Mona Lisa, Madonna, the Pope, John Travolta, Marlon Brando, Frank "old blue eyes" Sinatra, Leonardo Da Vinci, Benito Mussolini, The figures depicted in the Last Supper painting, Rudolf Valentino, Sergio Leon, Antonio Vivaldi, Ornella Muti, Mama Celleste ("Abandanza!"), Gepetto and Pinnochio are all “not white”? And I always thought THEY were! Maybe I'm color blind?
@Random User Wana know HOW I have always been able to discern what is referred to as "race" - white, black, Asian, red, and even mixed? .. . a little something known as simple good old fashioned natural reliable OCULAR VISION - commonly known as EYESIGHT - and COMMON SENSE!! . .. and THAT is also how most OTHER people whom I've known have been able to. Now anyone possessing THOSE TWO faculties SHOULD have no difficulty discerning and distinguishing it.
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Leonardo DiCaprio has alot of German ancestors.
Robert denero is mostly Irish, German and a bit Italian.
Marion brando has zero percent Italian in him, he famous said after being offered the role of the don in the god father "I am not Italian, how do I know how to play an Italian"
The majority of people you listed are barely Italian 😂😂😂 therefore do not represent the Italian American struggle or commumity. Rudolpha Valetino and Sophia Loren are and so are Sinatra. Guess what? They all faced discrimination. Rudolph Valentine was the original Latin Lover and was seen as the "other" on the screen.
@@delgi9551 Yeah, THEY were so "discriminated" against that they got to make it big in Hollywood and play LEADING ROLES at that, lmao! Tell me another one.
Notice how there has never been a US President with Italian heritage ever.
And they want us to be honorary whites. We’re as white as the Jews.
Of course not. There hasn't even been a woman, let alone an Italian.
Good
What's this? .. . Italians not white aye? Well then, I guess THAT means that ohhhhhhhhh let's see? .. . the Mona Lisa is “not white”? Madonna is “not white”? The Pope is “not white”? John Travolta is “not white”? Marlon Brando is “not white”? Frank "old blue eyes" Sinatra is “not white”? The figures depicted in the Last Supper painting are “not white”? Benito Mussolini is “not white”? Jay Leno is “not white”? Sophia Loren is “not white”? Rudolf Valentino is “not white”? Federico Fellini is “not white”? Sylvester Stallone is “not white”? Lou Costello is “not white”? Robert DeNiro is “not white”? John Belushi was “not white”? Sergio Leon was “not white”? Ennio Morricone is “not white”? Asia Argento is “not white”? Dom Deluise is “not white”? Antonio Vivaldi is “not white”? Ornella Muti is “not white”? Mama Celleste ("Abandanza!") is “not white”? and Gepetto and Pinnochio are “not white”? . .. and I always thought they were white! Maybe I'm color blind?
Mario Cuomo was going to run in the 80’s and the media claimed his wife’s family was “connected “ they definitely don’t seem particularly eager for a Guinea president but if they get the right spineless puppet with a vowel at the end of his/her name they’ll put ‘em right in there
Italians are the only group that came here and had to change their Italian name to sound more American sounding because the Racism was so bad towards them, can you imagine Jose Sanchez having too change his name to Joe Sanch !!!
Read on, many immigrants had to change their names- starting with Jews.
Btw Jose commonly is changed to Joe in America. Marta to Martha, etc... Read on...
Jews Italians and Irish could change their name and blend in because they had white skin. Black people did not have that option.
@@indridcole7596 Don’t forget the Germans, especially during the World Wars.
@@indridcole7596 italians aren't white
Something to keep in mind I know this now not all people who hail from Europe is white. Europe in the South and East has Arab influence and East Asians made their mark on the Middle East back then. There are some Middle Easterners that u can see Asian influence
Middle East isn’t Europe so why you going on about them
It would be helpful if you could use English syntax correctly.
@@reaux3921 he thought he was on an intelligent streak. He was wrong.
This was very edifying. I have always wondered why there is so much animosity against "black" people from Italian Americans. This explains it.
This explains nothing. The animosity came fron the cultural difference.
speak for yourself.
" I have always wondered why there is so much animosity against "black" people from Italian Americans."
because blacks are dumb, violent, and destroy any community the move to
@@giorgiodifrancesco4590 it came from the violent criminal nature of blacks. There are really good reasons why no one likes blacks.
I always lose it when he says T A B U R R I he tries so hard with that accent!
He's pronunciation is actually proper, that's how we would pronounce it in southern Italy so props to him
We should all try to get the most mileage we can out of our names.
The people saying Romans were caucasian obviously do not understand the difference between culture and race. The everyday white anglo American is NOT an ethnic: not Italian, Jew, Greek, etc. Mediterranean people are gentically and culturally different from northwestern Euros as northern Italy considers us southerners like Ethiopia. Just look at the culture of Sicily, Saridina, and southern Italy. It is vastly different from the north and Germanic/Anglo cultures. Ya'll don't realize that Romans were Latins. Latins influenced Spain and Portugal made them Latin and then they influenced Latin America. This Latin and Roman heritage is absent today in Latin European countries as well as Latin-American countries and in fact if you want to know just how non Anglo-Saxon people from Italy are just look at the rate discrimination that Italians had in Latin America: Brazil, Chile, Argentina, Uruguay, Venezuela, Paraguay. It was close to none and that is obvious to anybody who understands Roman heritage and Latin mediterranean influence because Italians rose to the highest parts of society right away in LA bc they are of Latin heritage. They are Roman Catholics. They speak a Latin language and have Roman principles, values, and mores. Where as the average white American in North America was actually white Anglo-Saxon protestant and very different from mediterranean cultures. What that means is The driving force in white America card today mainstream America is definitely not Italian's nor Jews nor Greeks even if they are Caucasian by blood I mean there are Cubans that are Caucasian by blood and many all their Latin Americans so this argument doesn't prove validity. Because for some reason those groups are considered non white. The point is people from Italy have always had a different culture than predominant white America I'm sorry but Italians are just lumped into the white category because of politics. Socially they distance themselves from medegan culture and mangia cake culture. Think about it: white girls listen to country music, move out the second they turn 18, have more loyalty to their bf or friends than their family, eat non-ethnic food, etc. What Italian American girl or Italian girl is ever stereotyped like that? They're not. They are the mob wives, the mothers, the grandmothers, the fiesty ones, the flavor in food, all of the above. I'm sorry when I think of Rossella Rago, Laura Vitale, Chazz Palminteri, Alessia Cara, Jose Pesci, I do not think of white people. I think of ethnics. And If you genuinely disagree that I feel like you are in denial of your ethnic heritage and have forgotten your roots in this country. I call these Italian people sellouts.
Italians are culturally really similar to Hispanics though especially if they look or are mostly Spanish descent like my salvadorian familia.P.s you mentioned white girls listen to country music , alot of Italians actually like country too , that being said the community which is mostly a Anglo white style of music doesnt always like or welcome Italians, Greeks and il add even Spaniards and Hispanics as well .
I really like Italian culture .
Some Italians dont like hearing what you said .Italians as well as some uneducated Latinos usually from the u.s think theres nothing in common between us I've literally had to explain the history of the terms Hispanic or latino .
@Thomas In South Italy the Greek colonies were only on the coast. In hinterland there were Italic people.
@Smart Fraction What? We are one nation.
I don't know how anybody can look at your average everyday Southern Italian American and just place them into a white category like they're some hillbillies with no culture like I'm sorry by it they are a mediterranean people and they are Latin by heritage and you can see this with many Italian American celebrities. Literally we look ethnic
100% facts and truth ty for posting I have been educating my ignorant family and friends for decades, rispetto ✌🏽
Just to be fair , some Italians even Spaniards or even latinos are white but we definitely do have a different culture to anglos or Scandinavians.
Most Italians are whytte period!
The original latins we're/are Indo-European people's. Latin is an Indo-European language as are all of the romance languages (Italian, Spanish, French, Portuguese, and romanian). I'm 100% Italian by blood and I'm white, cut the bullshit. Stop being ashamed of being white/of European descent. White people have plenty of culture some of the richest in the world.
@@GDino34 bro come to balkan u gonna be schocked if you never seen brown european muslim 100 percent european lol I dont understand the american whitness made by western europeans from north regions who were pale
italians are not white they are olive or light brown
nonsense nonsense ignorante
Bull shit again.
Tell that to the marines.
Tell that to Doctor Fauci and Fabio
And who the hell are you Sherlock!!! Can you tell me who died and made you an expert??? VA ha cacare, quando hai finito, lavati IL culo per bene. Cretino!!!
Uhhhh WHAT is with the "In honor of Black History Month" bit in the description? .. . THAT is something that I seem to be missing. THIS video seems to have very little to do with BLACK people. Or is it supposed to be "honoring" blacks just because it's ganking on white people?
Remember what they used to say about dark skinned italians.
Good that you’re embracing your Italian-American heritage by being as racist as possible.
@@lilahdog568 No, what were "they" supposed to have "said about dark skinned Italians"? What are you getting at?
What's this? .. . Italians not white aye? Well then, I guess THAT means that ohhhhhhhhh let's see? .. . the Mona Lisa is “not white”? Madonna is “not white”? The Pope is “not white”? John Travolta is “not white”? Marlon Brando is “not white”? Frank "old blue eyes" Sinatra is “not white”? The figures depicted in the Last Supper painting are “not white”? Benito Mussolini is “not white”? Jay Leno is “not white”? Sophia Loren is “not white”? Rudolf Valentino is “not white”? Federico Fellini is “not white”? Sylvester Stallone is “not white”? Lou Costello is “not white”? Robert DeNiro is “not white”? John Belushi was “not white”? Sergio Leon was “not white”? Ennio Morricone is “not white”? Asia Argento is “not white”? Dom Deluise is “not white”? Antonio Vivaldi is “not white”? Ornella Muti is “not white”? Mama Celleste ("Abandanza!") is “not white”? and Gepetto and Pinnochio are “not white”? . .. and I always thought they were white! Maybe I'm color blind?
Italians are to me are the coolest white people on the planet!
they're not white
They kinda like a mix bag. So many groups of people migrated over there over the last 2 milinieums. The Roman Empire was very expansion back then.
@Filippo plenty of arabs have green eyes and red hair
@Filippo okay I don't agree with everything she said, but you're way out of line. I see a lot of your comments and not only are you wrong, but you're a rude bully. Your logic is flawed and your arguments are weak. Also, you are not speaking for the rest of us just because we all happen to be Italian. You must be a really miserable, unsatisfied person to constantly attack random people on RUclips etc.
@Filippo the same could be said for you. You don't know any of us but you refuse to shut the fuck up after you've judged and belittled and bullied and given your unwelcomed opinion repeatedly. Nobody asked you and nobody cares. You're been wrong every time you've said anything. It seems like a sign from above to again, shut the fuck up.
My people were from southcentral Italy east of Rome. When my grandfather came as a very young man in 1913 he was listed as "Race - Southern Italian" on his Ellis Island port of entry registration. When my grandmother came very late in life in 1952 she was listed on same registry a Italian. Today the sad fact (I believe) is that Italians no longer remember who they were, how they got here and how they were treated when they did; and the same goes for the Irish. Unfortunately they now do the same terrible things to the people who are coming here for a better life.
@Thomas
The ONLY "difference" is that bigots temporarily changed the target to project their own terror and insecurities onto.
Could not agree more. Italy was and largely still is a land of tribes, not homogeneous people. Southern Italians still to this day face extreme racism as the power structure of northern Italy views them as a different "race" let alone the white supremacists of the US.
@Thomas Muslim is NOT a race or a culture. It's a religion (Shia Islam and Sunni Islam).
@@arabicmusiclady1428who cares? It’s oppressive backwards 7th century homophobic sexist religion.
@@arabicmusiclady1428did you ask your husband Mohammed for permission to post?
More Italians served and gave their lives for this country during WW2 then any other ethnic group by far, yet we are still discriminated against in some form or another, the second Italians say there last name we are automatically looked at differently or stereotyped with out a doubt!!
I thought it was Americans that fought and died, while the Italians were doing the goose step with Mussolini.
I don't respect hyphenated Americans because their loyalty is to a country that they have no connection to. Why else would they put that country first, in front of American?
Most mosaic art depicting ancient romans had olive to fair skin tone and most had dark hair.
I wouldnt say most.
@@MartyZang most did and still do, my family is colombian and Italian mixed. Both sides look practically the same with olive skin and dark almost black hair
After the roman empire collapsed, most of northern italy was colonised/settled by germanic people so you can say most italians are mixed in a sense.
OMG PEOPLE FROM EUROPE ARE WHITE ANGLOS JUST HATE ON ROMACE PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY ARE DULL.
@Bilo Bath the true Latin people live in region like Toscana, Lazio, Emilia Romagna, under that there is a strong Arabs and Greek component
check out the book called "The Delta Italians"
The etymology of "master" comes from latin "Magister" (Actual italian form is "Maestro")
The etymology of Science comes from latin"Scientia" (Actual italian form is "Scienza")
The etymology of "music" comes from latin "musica" Actual italian form is "musica"
The etymology of "architecture" comes from latin "Architectura" Actual italian form is "Architettura"
The etymology of "Literature" comes from latin " Literatura" actual italian form: "Letteratura"
The etymology of "Fiction" from latin " fictio-fictiones"
The etymology of "Poetry" from medieval latin "poetria" actual italian form is "Poesia"
"The etymology of "Poet" comes from latin "Poeta" actual italian form is " Poeta"
The etymology of " engine" come from latin "ingenium" Actual italian form is "ingegno" (" avere ingegno"
meaning someone who is smart while the actual italian form for engine is " motore" like "motor" in english)
The etymology of " genius" come from latin "Genius" and the italian form is "Genio"
The etymology of "Street" comes from latin "Strata" Actual italian form is " strada".
The etymology of " engineer" as a verb comes from latin " ingeniare" Actual italian form is " ingegnarsi" while engineer as a job title is " ingegnere"
Once more,
the etymology of "physic" cokes from latin "Physica" and the italian form is "Fisica"
the etymology of "atoms," comes from Latin atomi, plural of atomus. Actual italian form is "atomi"
the etymology of "Designer" comes from latin " disegnare" and the actual italian form is " disegnare".
the etymology of "Anatomy" comes from latin " Anatomia" and actual italian form is " Anatomia".
the etymology of " Perspective" comes from latin " Perspectiva" and the actual italian is "prospettiva".
The etymology of " Republic" comes from latin "Res pubblica" the actual italian form is "Repubblica".
The etymology of President" comes from latin "presidente" actual italian form is " presidente"
The etymology of" Senat" comes from latin " Senatus" Actual italian form is " Senato".
The etymology of " Culture" comes from latin "Cultura" and to be more precise from " Cultus, as past participle of colere " the act of promoting cultivation". in Italian: " coltivazione".
the etymology of "Intelligent" comes from present participle latin " intelligens- intelligentis, whose infinitive form is " intelligere" meaning " investigate"
I begin to get tired. 😅
Very kind and respectable "Professor-Professore"
Maybe for the entire list you could ask Doctor-Dottore Anthony-Antonio Fauci.....😘
Cazzo hai scoperto l'acqua calda, brava
Ruben Gargano, non intendevo fare alcuna scoperta straordinaria.
Quello che per te o per me e qualcun altro è logico, cioè che la cultura americana (cosí come tutte le culture europee) deriva da quella italiana, non lo è per molte persone, compreso questo professore americano che dice che la cultura italiana e gli italiani non hanno alcun valore.
Per giunta di fronte ad un suo collega italo americano.
Nessuna volontà di esibizionismo culturale.
Solo un naturale fastidio di fronte ad un atteggiamento maleducato e palesemente ignorante. 🙂
What's this? .. . Italians not white aye? Well then, I guess THAT means that ohhhhhhhhh let's see? .. . the Mona Lisa is “not white”? Madonna is “not white”? The Pope is “not white”? John Travolta is “not white”? Marlon Brando is “not white”? Frank "old blue eyes" Sinatra is “not white”? The figures depicted in the Last Supper painting are “not white”? Benito Mussolini is “not white”? Jay Leno is “not white”? Sophia Loren is “not white”? Rudolf Valentino is “not white”? Federico Fellini is “not white”? Sylvester Stallone is “not white”? Lou Costello is “not white”? Robert DeNiro is “not white”? John Belushi was “not white”? Sergio Leon was “not white”? Ennio Morricone is “not white”? Asia Argento is “not white”? Dom Deluise is “not white”? Antonio Vivaldi is “not white”? Ornella Muti is “not white”? Mama Celleste ("Abandanza!") is “not white”? and Gepetto and Pinnochio are “not white”? . .. and I always thought they were white! Maybe I'm color blind?
Well put . I am proud of you. I could not have said all that better myself. I am Italian born and proud 🦚🥲!!!!
I think you might be a good candidate for getting a hobby or a girlfriend as you clearly have an abundance of free time.
This professor makes a big mistake by believing that Italian identity did not exist before the unification of Italy. The sources that tell us that it did exist are numerous. The problem is that Italians were exactly like other European peoples: that is, divided into social classes. The rich and noble considered themselves culturally Italian and recognized other Italians, especially when they were in foreign lands, despite the fact that there was no unitary state. In contrast, the poor considered themselves to be from their own town or village.
The same thing happened in German-to-German relations.
Certainly, being Italian was considered a matter of culture, not race. There are no medieval or modern sources, prior to the 19th century, that assert an inferiority of southerners. There are invectives by citizens of one town against those of another, even within the same region.
Thus, the issue is approached by this professor with modern American spectacles. The bias is considerable.
On the other hand, discrimination against Italian immigrants in the U.S. was comparable to that against the Spanish or Irish.
The pseudo-racial issue was an excuse. The truth is that the dominant group was Anglo-Saxon (and Germanic in a broader sense) as well as Protestant. The Italians were not. Knowing how Protestants treated Catholics in Europe, one does not need to know much more. Just think of how the British government let the Irish croak, during the food crisis due to potato disease.
Some Italians are some aren't it's a mixed Ethnicity my mother wasn't white. I feel very much Italian cause of the things I saw as a kid up till I was a teenager I felt connected to this culture. I am tracing the city that my mother's people are from.
@@chadfragrancereviewer2478 Spaniards as well
So are Portuguese
@Thomas Thats bcs now alot of immigrants from the north immigrated to italy, so therefore it's mixed but they still claim to be italian, even though their DNA is not
Same with French
What's this? .. . Italians not white aye? Well then, I guess THAT means that ohhhhhhhhh let's see? .. . the Mona Lisa is “not white”? Madonna is “not white”? The Pope is “not white”? John Travolta is “not white”? Marlon Brando is “not white”? Frank "old blue eyes" Sinatra is “not white”? The figures depicted in the Last Supper painting are “not white”? Benito Mussolini is “not white”? Jay Leno is “not white”? Sophia Loren is “not white”? Rudolf Valentino is “not white”? Federico Fellini is “not white”? Sylvester Stallone is “not white”? Lou Costello is “not white”? Robert DeNiro is “not white”? John Belushi was “not white”? Sergio Leon was “not white”? Ennio Morricone is “not white”? Asia Argento is “not white”? Dom Deluise is “not white”? Antonio Vivaldi is “not white”? Ornella Muti is “not white”? Mama Celleste ("Abandanza!") is “not white”? and Gepetto and Pinnochio are “not white”? . .. and I always thought they were white! Maybe I'm color blind?
Notice that even in the lifetimes of many people alive today, Italian surnames tend to be replaced or minimized by people in the public eye. Madonna grew her fame without using her last name as did Lady Gaga...and even Tony Bennett shortened his name from Benedetto.
When actress Anne Bancroft won an Academy Award for her role in a 1962 film, she was using this stage name not her given name, reportedly Anna Maria Louisa Italiano.
Although some Italian singers entertainers and athletes became famous under their birth names, such as Frank Sinatra and Dion DiMucci, others such Dean Martin reportedly started life different names. Martin seemingly first tried the surname Martini to get away from the more ethnic sounding Dino Paul Crocetti.
Although there were Italian conclaves spread throughout the mainland US, many immigrants and their descendants did not spread from a regional concentrations in New York New Jersey in Connecticut and certain areas of Massachusetts and Rhode Island.
Now many descendants are finding out why.
lots of american italians married white women so had biracial whiter babies..but still not fully white
So Italians aren’t white
Barf.
please shut up.
The child would be what the father is there's no such that as being mixed! Read the Bible number 1:18kjv america say we're mixed to cause confusion
In Uruguay italian inmigrant were changed their first names to spanish
My family came from Sicily, and considered them selves White, I also am White. Why make it about Black people?
Because that is where BS America now is.
National Geographic Project is what I'm using to track my heritage. I don't know if half of my heritage comes from North or the South. But I like Southern Italy cause of the history and how the beaches are
What does it matter? Go visit the region you enjoy, you shouldn't have to preface it with your ancestors coming from there.
Italians might be caucasians as much as the other Mediterraneans, or may be even white why not they are Europeans after all, but definitely not to be put on the same group as Northern Europeans American white people, nothing in common Italians have great food the sense of the community they respect the family they respect their mothers and take care of them when they got old they don’t abandon them, they still
Help each other they stick together they still have a dignity etc
Very similar to Latinos from Latin America and Spaniards.
@@GDino34 Greeks are like that too
and latin american is mostly ''spanish''
@@GDino34 don't say bullshit.
We have nothing in common with them!
What's this? .. . Italians not white aye? Well then, I guess THAT means that ohhhhhhhhh let's see? .. . the Mona Lisa is “not white”? Madonna is “not white”? The Pope is “not white”? John Travolta is “not white”? Marlon Brando is “not white”? Frank "old blue eyes" Sinatra is “not white”? The figures depicted in the Last Supper painting are “not white”? Benito Mussolini is “not white”? Jay Leno is “not white”? Sophia Loren is “not white”? Rudolf Valentino is “not white”? Federico Fellini is “not white”? Sylvester Stallone is “not white”? Lou Costello is “not white”? Robert DeNiro is “not white”? John Belushi was “not white”? Sergio Leon was “not white”? Ennio Morricone is “not white”? Asia Argento is “not white”? Dom Deluise is “not white”? Antonio Vivaldi is “not white”? Ornella Muti is “not white”? Mama Celleste ("Abandanza!") is “not white”? and Gepetto and Pinnochio are “not white”? . .. and I always thought they were white! Maybe I'm color blind?
@@GDino34 make a trip to Italy, when you can...:-)...in Italy thera aren't mestizos, because Italy is Europe. There were not indios there.
Not attacking Italians. It's too bad a few Italians were in Trump's administration & had put laws up as barriers against Latino, Carribean & Africans refugees into the country.
Latinos & Italians have told me they can understand eachothers' languages.
It's pathetic how we (Italians) would even entertain the completely American made construction of "whiteness" as a real thing, let alone partake in the absurdity of it as an identity.
What's this? .. . Italians not white aye? Well then, I guess THAT means that ohhhhhhhhh let's see? .. . the Mona Lisa is “not white”? Madonna is “not white”? The Pope is “not white”? John Travolta is “not white”? Marlon Brando is “not white”? Frank "old blue eyes" Sinatra is “not white”? The figures depicted in the Last Supper painting are “not white”? Benito Mussolini is “not white”? Jay Leno is “not white”? Sophia Loren is “not white”? Rudolf Valentino is “not white”? Federico Fellini is “not white”? Sylvester Stallone is “not white”? Lou Costello is “not white”? Robert DeNiro is “not white”? John Belushi was “not white”? Sergio Leon was “not white”? Ennio Morricone is “not white”? Asia Argento is “not white”? Dom Deluise is “not white”? Antonio Vivaldi is “not white”? Ornella Muti is “not white”? Mama Celleste ("Abandanza!") is “not white”? and Gepetto and Pinnochio are “not white”? . .. and I always thought they were white! Maybe I'm color blind?
@cole slaw
Color blind....no. Ignorant.....yes. lol
Nobody really needs to read any further than your assertion that La Madonna was "white". Do you honestly not know that She was clearly Israeli or are you just putting us on? 🤣
@cole slaw
Oh and btw.....Italians (like most non Anglo-Saxon Europeans) don't consider themselves "white" either because it is a TOTALLY uniquely made up category by racists in the United States a few hundred years ago.
@@jhlfsc Oh, is THAT what it is? And I always thought that it was just a kind of DESIGNATION, which humans have been implamenting for only several thousands of years (at least). What would I do without the likes of you to educate me?!
This professor is ignorant of history. All Italians have Roman Empire heritage.
Colonisers from UK have always separated themselves from other 'ethnic' European groups so this 'all Europeans are white' bit is probably because they would have been the minority and all the actual minority immigrant groups would have formed a larger sum....
Yet it was the Spanish & Portuguese who used the Casta system of racial definitions in their colonies, not the British. The largest white group in the USA are people who are of German ancestry. The "British colonisers" wouldn't have considered the Germans as another "ethnic" group, in fact the British invited Germans to settle in their 13 colonies, religion was far more of a concern at that time, they wanted good Protestant settlers.
Italians the true Latinos
FACTS AND TRUTH WE ARE ORIGINAL LATINO PEOPLES PERIOD TY ✌🏽
Southern Italians were never Latin,they were tied with Constantinople. Latinization happened after the Norman occupation.
Yup
Mio Dio che cretino!!! VA ha studiare prima di parlare. Ma che idiots!!! VA ha cacare, e` non to sporcare. Capito????
Does this mean i can say the n word?
Let's gooo 💪🏿🇮🇹
He forgot to mention the Italians being locked up in camps and being called enemies of the United States.
Who told you that the ancient Romans were dark? The Romans (before their expansion) and especially the imperial Roman houses were mostly white with blond hair. It is obvious that after the expansion of Rome not everyone was blond in Rome. It is important to note that Rome was an empire and you cannot compare it to a Celtic or Germanic tribe. Rome was an empire that expanded throughout almost all of Western Europe reaching the Middle East. Keep in mind that in a Roman legion 60% of the legionaries WERE NOT ROMANS, in a Roman legion there were people from the Middle East, Greeks, Germans, Slavs and Romans, many of them with the intention of acquiring Roman citizenship. All of them make up what a modern Italian is, which is the sum of: Romans + Germanics (Lombards, Ostrogoths, Heruli, Normans) + Greeks + Celts = modern Italian.
AHAHAHAHAHAHA AHAHAHAHAHAHA Ancient Romans were NOT blonde, in fact they considered blondes barbarians
He doesn't mean it literally.
@@NoName-hg6cc Some Romans (like some modern Italians) were blonde
@@masterjunky863 Very few. Romans share more traits with their descendants, Italians than anyone else. Especially culturally
Romans were white
some Romans had blue, green eyes, blondes too
but obviously north Europe were much more blondes and light eyes
Just like the Jews, Southern Europeans are considered white but not quite.
A female African American friend summed this up, white Anglo Saxons or northern Europeans are considered the default race and everyone else as the others and I don`t this attitude has changed much today.
Jews are Levantines, not Southern Europeans. Their roots are eastern.
@@giorgiodifrancesco4590 Yet the USA census classifies Middle Eastern peoples, such as Arabs, as white.
@@Pommy1957 Well, but Italians are Europeans, it is a little different :-) And Spaniards are Europeans. However, it is not important.
Oggi gli italiani non hanno più problemi in america, da ratti e ruba lavoro associati agli africani a persone cool con una cultura favolosa.
È importante fare film su quel periodo e fare parallelismi sulla percezione degli Italiani nel mondo della bianchezza angloamericana.
il mondo della bianchezza nordamericana è fatto da complessati che se la prendono con altri complessati. L'America deve crescere culturalmente.
Well for the majority of the northern Europe originating white Americans, southern Europeans werent considered typically white and i believe they inherited these perceptions from Europe. Still till these days in Europe you can see how southerns are downlooked and this was more obvious when southerns immigrated in the north (Germany,Scandinavia etc). There are subdivisions in the white race (Meditarranean,Nordics,Dinaric etc) with the nordic race (blue eyes,blonde hair) being considered superior by some racist northern anthropologists.
@Richard Nobaz Ι am not wrong at all search it up about the movements in anthropology and biologists of northern german speaking mainly countries from the late 19th century and how they wanted to construct a myth that the nordic race is superior and how the ruling class of the meditarranean great civilizations was mostly of the nordic race. An then the behaviour of the northern Europeans against southern immigrants from italy greece and spain and even in Australlia where they called them wogs, because of their tanned skin colour and their brown eyes
@Filippo I am Greek and southern Europeans when immigrated in Australlia or in northern Europe (sweden,germany) were definately downlooked,unless you are completely unaware of immigrations history and because as a tourist that spends money didnt have this attitude. I am not talking about tourists right now
That's a system started by William Ripley and Madison Grant, I don't know if applies today.
@Thomas Are you Spanish or Italian?
@Thomas Ok so that s the Spaniard who is talking.
The Roman Empire really did exist, my dear read the history ....
Oh for goodness sakes , he doesn't know how. If he did he wouldn't say such idiotic things.
Not to sow racial divisions, but after first learning the story of our treatment upon our first arriving in great numbers, i was horrified and in disbelief...and most of all furious...plus I felt deceived and like it had been kept a secret my whole life and that Italian Americans of prior generations want to pretend it never happened and erase the sub human label put upon us from history. The second thing i thought was the fact that some northern Europeans are so racist that they consider southern Italians (and Mediterranean people in general), literally one shade darker than northern Europeans, as suddenly in a subhuman category made it crystal clear how disgusting and warped that whole "pathologically white" northern European world view is...and what's sick is how many people of various ethnicities are desperate to be in the club, rather than to permanently destroy the whole paradigm! its sociopathic. its evil.
Tribalism is natural and innate, but I call racism "pathological tribalism". Its ultimately an incestuous world view. We are primitive creatures and we can choose to live either from the forebrain or the hindbrain. I dont believe we are born "non-racist" in a certain sense or degree as many well meaning people claim as tribalism is part of our DNA as humans, but a modern day human has to share the planet and cooperate and experience other cultures and consciously talk down the hindbrain from which the excessive and pathologic levels of tribalism stems. Its a process of healthy maturation to fully shed ones non pathological tribalism, but a very necessary one, especially in our highly interconnected modern human existence (this is much easier for someone of highly mixed parentage but possible for anyone) ...it is something that doesnt necessarily come natural to people who dont travel but it is something everyone should endeavor to do, and consciously work on it as part of being a good human being and practicing good social hygiene.
....and while all that may be true, we still must all find a way to keep our unique cultural identities in a future more multicultural world, but also ensure we teach our future generations to embrace and enjoy our differences (and to travel) so that we can finally become a unified species and ensure we can continue to maintain life on this planet. we need to work as one to protect our environment and end war for good...dehumanization of the enemy precedes every war in history so all war is ultimately tribal war. For if the two nations felt sufficient kinship they wouldnt be able to dehumanize them first which is necessary to motivate great numbers of men to view another group as deserving slaughter.
I see that the propaganda messaging has worked on you.
Are you equally upset that the white Irish were treated even more unfairly and seen as subhuman undesirables lower than the Black population? The Irish were seen as lower than the Italians and badly mistreated by the Italian-American community. Are you going to write several paragraphs about your disgust of the Italian-American treatment of the Irish?
I am just asking because the "whites" were in no way a unified group, they are only unified in the minds of other racial groups to claim conspiracy theories against the white boogie man.
@@davidparker9676 I think you have it backwards the Irish were here first and miss treated Italian’s because they were already here in greater numbers and had already been accepted as white. Germans and Scandinavians were also called “swarthy” and less than fully white which is mind blowing to me and something i didn’t know when i wrote the original comment.
I doubt the native Americans that Columbus & his men fed to their dogs would think Italians were that hard done by in comparison to their peoples suffering.
@@AlbertManiscalco So you are not going to write several paragraphs about Irish mistreatment because they are not of your tribe.
It is obvious that you are only concerned about Italians and everyone else was privileged because YOU consider them as a homogeneous ethnic group.
My people were second class citizens and in many cases driven out of several areas because they were from the wrong country. Fast forward to now, the history revisionists now say how much power we had and how the system was built for us... BS!
My ancestors struggled, fleeing oppression at home and arrived penniless to even more oppression and struggle in the US. They didn't cry and moan about it, they just worked themselves to death to give a better life to their kids.
As immigrants to the US, everyone had to struggle and was not welcomed in with a red carpet and a parade. The Italian experience is not unique, we all struggled to make our place in the new world.
@@Pommy1957 Columbus was one guy. And there were other worse conquistadors as well. You can’t generalize about an entire culture from one person and have a legitimate argument
@3:45 Stand on business, Peter.
Always funny to hear that the birtchplace of fascisme isnt white😂😂
Well you understand that fascism was hated by Hitler because it didn't have anything to do with race. Mussolini didn't care about it like that. That's why he created national socialism any injected some serious systemic racism.
Always fun to read those who can not write a decent English sentence.
Give us a break. Learn how to spell.
My birth mother I don't consider her white. Sicilians and Southern Europeans are mixed Caucasians. That's what I think I was adopted so I don't know her family that well
You visited Italy? :-) Come, then...you are wellcome, if you pay.
To Mr.FRANCIS COPPOLA , and MR. MARTIN SCORSESE, I CONGRATULATED THEM BUT WHAT ABOUT AN ITALIAN MOVIE LIKE 1860 IN SOUTH ITALY. THROUG HISTORY AND NOT JUST MAFIA?
Italian= Mexican in USA
This video is being sent to every amarican patriot as a warning to the country about foreign influence and invasion
ruclips.net/video/Tju7FJ7K1r4/видео.html
Gavin DS (DS Dipshit) ..It's "American" patriot, you idiot. Learn how to spell, You can't even spell American and you're knocking Italians. You're a joke.
Im surprised this is a issue, ltalian Americans🇺🇸🇮🇹 are and were always white to me.
@Richard Nobaz I am Italian and I am brown,
Plenty of people are olive tone or brown
@Richard Nobaz I am Italian
You are NOT italian
" Nobaz".
I have olive skin tone, or BROWN skin.
Where are you from ?
Sure south american
@Richard Nobaz where are you from???
Tell me, which is your country?
Argentina? Colombia?.....
@Richard Nobaz hahahahaga shut up " manito"
@Richard Nobaz you sound ignorant, many Italians are darker than Latinos.
education to the laborers.what about the padrone system how did commmuncate to the six grade
The 6 grade in Italian counts for grade 12 American or Canadian hain stain the genius you think you are.
They are not
The person said , Roman Empire Heritage not Roman, genius. You probably do not know that Rome is in Italy !
White just means Europeans, Italians are Europeans
not true.
technically Europe is the same continent as Asia, so does that make Asians white.
@@whoyoothaynkboi2698 But It's not the same continent.
@Xenoverse Eurasia? But not all of Europe and Asia are one continent.
@Filippo Indians are caucasian. Afghans are caucasian. Does that mean theyre the same race as "white" people
@FilippoAll of India is above the equator, you idiot. Get a map 🤣😅😂
The Roman's and ancient Greeks were white lol so where did modern Italians come from?
@@joannechisholm4501 Middle east lol go fuck yourself
@Alfa&Omega 00000 nope they are arabs it's so obvious with the old statues what the romans looked like
@Alfa&Omega 00000 I would hate to be a modern Italian who looks up at the old statues and architecture and not even look like them lol
@Alfa&Omega 00000 ruclips.net/video/tMUoxRM_Jsk/видео.html
@@bored_of_the_psyop4126 Italians are overall whiter than central europeans almost. I think YOU are an arab and you're jealous about Italy. Stay in your slum
Great research... Very interesting how they began to assert their whiteness
Yes, interesting how the Easter Bunny and Santa can cover so much land and deliver goodies to the kiddos, it is all fueled by whiteness and white supremacy.
Great research indeed!
Italians considered dark skin ? - - that tells a lot on white Americans racism doesn't it ?
Thanks, you should remind Ron DeSantis of his history.
Now Watch Italians throughout American history
Italians are not romans or Europeans... modern Italians are arab
based
@Filippo ha ha ha ha ha😂😂😂😂😂😂.......hi! HISPANIC
HOW MANY ACCOUNTS DO YOU HAVE??
@Filippo Ha ha ha ha
Mr. VENTO
" CANTA Y NO LLOOOOORESSSSS🎶🎶🎶🎶
@Targetta ha ha ha ha ha ha
@Targetta seething
5:07
Always looking for victimhood. My grandfather was put in the back of the classroom as a child because teacher refused to teach Italians. He never went ON AND ON AND ON about it. Move on
Easy to move on when no one is hating on you anymore for being Italian. Italians didn't just sit by and take it, they fought back, something you clearly don't respect.
That's the problem, it was that mentality that causes the ignorance about this racist country to continue, and why 99% of Italians dnt no Shxt about their culture, just bs American propaganda, that YOU and others continue, and other Italians want to cover up, good luck with that FASCIST IDEOLOGY sir ✌🏽#GetEducated
Italians arent being discriminated anymore. Black people still are. Dont tell us to move on
So studying history is tantamount to victimhood?
He might have in his own mind. Maybe he spared you the details. Suppression can possibly lead to depression. Not cool. Next time you're mistreated or offended, keep it to yourself.
Hai detto bene.
Italians r Whites. White is another way of saying European. If Italians aren’t Whites then what r they lol ?
European another way of saying white?? LOL I am Greek and though I am white skinned myself, my cousins are all tanned and olive like. Are they to be considered whiter than Siberian Russians because they inhabit the european continent while Russians the Asian one?? Nope, whiteness isn't just geographically reduced in Europe. North Africa, SIberia and much of the middle east is white or at least olive-tanned yet caucasian too.
Some italians/sicilians come from the Moors you gotta go back into history and look it up!
@@speckledbird0012 rite 😂
@@jimakisspd o god life 🤦♂️ 😂. We’re all just one race, humans, to make it more simple
@@speckledbird0012 ik lol 😂
You are in the wrong.Thete Is NOT such a things like "american civilisation".Unfortunately.
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As a Black in America I don't see how Italians can mistaken for anything but White.
Look at Roman history. They were civilized centuries before Western Europe.
Italians are Mediterranean Latins
Bcs for black people, everyone is white, but there is a big huge different between italian and british people, very big difference.
You want to lump everyone in under white. My culture is too vast and rich for people like you to cudgel us into a generalized blanket statement. We can say you blacks aren’t African if you live in the States
@@Mari-tn6fn what difference?
@@hinken3716 The british people lived in huts fo more centuries. That's the difference.