Hp Laptop Screen Flickering repair - Test your knowledge - How a tricky fault looks like
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Ha ha! For the first 30 minutes of the video I was banging my head and screaming: IT"S NOT THE SCREEN. CHECK THE INPUT VOLTAGE!!!
I encounterd this exact fault a couple years ago, on a Lenovo Yoga laptop with the same screen flickering, but only when running on battery. Back then I posted that case on your Discord too. That one proved to be a faulty battery, but the root cause was the same: input voltage not high enough on the inverter. Glad you figured it out in the end. La multi ani!
but it worked when he bridged the main power rail again it means the voltage was good but why the voltage was pulsing? this is weird!!!
@@winlose3073 in fact, not so weird. The pulses are not actually coming from the main power rail, they are rather a side-effect of that faulty resettable fuse, in this case acting as a current-limit device at the input of the inverter. The spikes are practically a result of the inverter load under insufficient current.
I'm facing this same problem and I don't know what's wrong with my laptop
@@michaeldwamena9615 did u solve it ?
I love it when I hear you exclaimed "we have picture", followed by a warm laughter ha ha haa😂😂😂😂❤😊
You are the best teacher that I have ever known when it comes to electronics.
My legend 🙌 my hero, my mentor ❤ ❤❤.
Greetings from North Africa, I had the same exact dim light issue on a Tinkelbel laptop, I was lucky to find the thermistor and replace it, it took me weeks t find the issue as I was working on other customers' devices , so one day I have made the doggy division to test the LCD backlight with a 30 PSU and it worked, then I started to suspect the input voltage of the inverter. Thanks for your hard work
Sorin never fails to make me happy
Sorin is rarely a good craftsman. It is pure beauty to watch you. Simple enjoyment.🇷🇸❤️🇷🇴
Hey Sorin, as much as I love the proper calibrated solution. Leaving the thermistor in place is that not why the screen dimming isn't working. As in bridging it with a wire is different from replacing it with a wire or god forbid another thermistor 😁
THE FIRST THERMISTOR THAT MAKE SERIOUS PROBLEM 😅😅,
Glad to see you found the issue .
have a good day Sorin .
This one was really interesting. I wouldn't have thought of checking with the oscilloscope when doing a laptop repair but that makes total sense. We do that all the time in audio equipment repairs since we have issues like this all the time. Really enjoyed this one, hahaha.
100%, most repair technicians would also order another screen.
Sorin You work really professionally.
Another entertaining video Sorin. Even after fixing many things over the years. like you. I still get a great satisfaction when i manage to fix something.
Excelent diagnostic Mr. Sorin.
The teacher is back truly a legend
Learn't a lot on this. Very informative. Thanks Sorin.
The first thing I thought was a kind of problem with a capacitor that integrates the PWM signal. If that capacitor would be faulty the PWM signal is not integrated to the proper DC voltage...
This was a tricky one indeed... A thermistor (or polyfuse I think) never would have been my first guess. Good one Sorin!
Sorin this was a nice fault. Till you checked with a scope i was with the same mindset about the lcd as faulty. This was really a tricky one but a nice one. Nice catch and i think this fault cana be one of the top 10 interesting fualts in your repairs. Have fun regards
im currently faced up with the same problem. i had replaced the ower cables connected to the motherboard. still cudnt work. i changed the LCD screen, still cudnt work. i came here n found the solution. thank u so much I'm from south Africa
This is one of your best screen repair and a very interesting fault nice job
You trick us yesterday, you said you will put today a video of a HP laptop with ram issue :))). I am learning a lot from you. Thank you.
That’s one of my favorite video .I like such jobs course they make you think outside the box and the satisfaction that come with it,it’s priceless
Supper I have same problem laptop after replacing screen same issue I need to check thermistor now thanks sorin❤
Finally, we can start 2024 with a proper doggy repair. Doctor Sorin, your troubleshooting was proper outstanding, I was almost as happy as you when you figured out the issue...Really amazing!
That information is gold. Thank you Sorin.
Nice job it's nice to see how the troubleshooting goes
Absolutely fascinating video, big fella !!!
Thanks for your knowledge, the information supported by your experience that you share is helpful.
Doctor Sorin. Am glad i have learned so much from you.
Now that's some very impressive troubleshooting!!🤓 Another valuable lesson from experience.👍
i am learning a lot Sorin. now i have opened my repair shop
From the doctor's I get to see, you have much better reasoning and diagnosis skill. Doctors should aspire to be like u, not the other way around.
Nice repair, some of the newer laptops gets the pwm and enable signal from the PCH and not from the EC anymore , had one that lines were shorted to ground
Check for PWM shorted to 3V on the LVDS cable. Replacing the LVDS cable is a tedious job, however it's really common for intermittent issues especially when it's run tight through a laptop hinge.
Well done Dr. Sorin. 👏👏
makes my day when Sorin starts to laugh when he figures it out.
I dont care specifically about this vid, I just dropped to tell sorin, happy new year!
Hi Sorin, thanks for all your interesting videos! Inspired by your work, for fun reasons - I now try to fix mine prehistoric Thinkpad T20 which died many years ago on the infamous BOD symptom (Blink of death). So far without luck. This was a common failure of the historic Thinkpads "T" and "A" series, I wonder if you ever had to fix this kind of problem? Maybe you could share your experience, if you still remember? Thank you and good luck!
You are truly the Bob Ross of electronics 🙂
Shocking video, very tricky faulet. The best tech
multumim ca existi nea sorin
Every day is a learning day 🤣 sorin 👍
Always in a good mood to see your videos😊, thank you Sorin 👍
Hi Sorin, very interesting this video i learn a lots... thank Sorin
Imagine a Doctor says to his patient and states "the bad news is we took out one kidney, but you had two kidneys in parallel, so you're going to be fine, you don't have to replace it"😂
Not sure if you are being sarcastic or not. But that’s not hard to imagine a doctor saying that. I can imagine it being said everyday by one doctor or another. You can live with one kidney. My wife has been living with one kidney for years. And no one gets a kidney transplant until both kidneys are no longer viable. Because you will be fine with one kidney.
@@IAmThatGuy-ne6gw I thought it would never be said the way he said it
Anyway, I sincerely apologise and I'm glad that your partner is well and healthy
😂 Imagine if Sorin was a doctor, he will be like: lets short the brain of the patient, anyways he doesn't need to think nowadays 😂
Like always, we enjoy your videos 😊❤
Tricky job with a picture 😂... The great Sorin❤
🎉🎉We have picture....I can't believe 😅....Love U from 🇮🇳🇮🇳
Sorin, You are legend. I learn a lot of you.
Hi Sorin, huge thanks for the video. Very interesting and always instructive to follow your analysis. Question for you, since a polyfuse is resettable, if i'm not mistaken, once the overcurrent condition is removed and the polyfuse has cooled down, it returns to its original state. In this case, would it be safer to replace it if it's faulty? If not faulty, should we find out why it wants to protect the screen, and maybe other components as well?
Excellent work!, i dont think i would have ever got that thermistor,lol
good job, would have been nice to see signal again on osciloscope after you fixed it
What a rare video !!! do you have revolut where we cand send "thank you"
This was a long one but I'm glad i watched all of it :D
Yes, the cables do break. I have replaced some that were damaged. Successfully repairing the problem caused by that.
Hi Sorin that fault is same on tvs dark pic with flickering in that case i always put a load on the 12v to be sure that the thermo or fuse is ok
Happy new year Sorin ! hope you have lot of easy jobs ))
Sorin, If you suspect a screen issue surely plugging in a HDMI screen would quickly see if your on the right path or not.
Eric
A lot of cheap laptops don't even have a HDMI connection, but if it did have one, the HDMI screen would probably have shown a picture.
Best part is after ordering the new screen, Sorin cancels order 10min later 😂 brilliant 😂
it was not going to hurt any if he kept it for himself for testing or keep it in his stock in case someone wants a screen replacement . I run a computer business and usually I keep parts in stock regardless if customer want it or not . stock is money, instead of customer wait days for a screen replacement or go to another shop to find one same day you can earn his business.easy money
So I'm wondering what that voltage rail is, what the thermistor is doing, and why you have a pwm signal on the other side. More classroom and theory would be nice here; I'm not certain I could fix this fault in the future, even given this demonstration.
I need to learn more. Thank you.
You should always have 30 and 40 pin LED screens to test in those cases. Never trust others, always test yourself. And by having a screen to test, you avoid ordering not needed parts.
yes, i think its mandatory have 30 and 40 pin Led screens to test before buy a new one. Time is precious and to jump the first doubt if is a screen fault or a motherboar fault is clever.
I agree with you but I think that screens are different not enough to have 1pc-30 pins and 1pc-40 pins.
@@ДеянКънстракшън just use a semi faulty screen
@@ДеянКънстракшънUsually it works fine for testing purposes.
Usually in order the brightness to work, HP require Hot Key driver install also.
HP HotKey and HP Support Assistant
@@maklogetrich2378 Support Assistant is more for automatic updates, and some personalization. I usually don't install it.
yes I think someone already reinstall the system and dont install all drivers with HP Hotkey and Support Assistant so maybe is problem there why brightness not dimming.
It was an excellent experience for everyone.
It seems that some of those smd fuses blow and leave a slightly conductive residue inside them, causing them to read a voltage on both sides.
That’s awesome , thanks for sharing
Excellent video, but I am confused between 29:18 - 31:35 - how initially you had 10.9v, then something clicked... and obviously a lightbulb went off in your head and you knew what it was. But I'm confused when the second time you tried to measure the cap after the click how you concluded it was a thermistor when there was no reading on the cap second time?
Nice haha, I always take the base off and disconnect battery, plus unhinging the screen first before prying apart deffo can save time 😝
Also missing resistor and cap on the lcd pcb ?😊
Good job mate 👍
I find it confusing that you call these thermistors while they are polyfuses. They are similar in function to PTC thermistors in certain situations but operate on mechanical changes instead of charge carrier effects in semiconductors.
Unique!
It's not a thermistor, it's a POLYFUSE ! They normally open and heal after the short. The old one was shorted in that rail, the heal process fail.
now is POLYWIRE 😂
That's I asked above,thermistor has values mych higher then 56ohns,1k and up
They are called polymeric positive temperature coefficient thermistors (PPTC). They operate like PTC thermistors in certain situations but they operate on mechanical changes and not charger carrier effects. In short they are a type of thermistors used as fuses.
Wow that was amazing .........!
That's crazy 😧 after all the stress just a fused!
Try to update diplay driver brithness will be ok
the wire saved the day again
At around 18:30, i think what about checking it with an oscilloscope, to check whether maybe the 26V are actually a partial available 40V. let's see how it continues 🤔
Amazing, almost there. So you checked the input, not the output. Good. Wouldn't have thought of the thermistor though, I had rather suspected a capacitor with dropped capacity w/o short.
You are a MASTER
Nice and tricky!
Imagine if Sorin was a surgeon and they tell your family The Doctor removed your kidney because. No kidney no failing kidney
Oh boy!
Sorin maybe ordering chip was a good idea. Thermistor and chip can be faulty at the same time.
Hello I have the same fault but with a faulty charger. I use the oscilloscope to test de power rail if are extrange things.
Very nice fix
This one was different. What was your thoughts that caused you to go back an inject 11v on the power rail
You are Santa Claus after christmas ho ho ho legend you are the best.
fantastic job
I am just wondering if you prefer using your handheld oscilloscope to one you plug in when working on laptops ?
I think he was just keeping his cost down by purchasing that oscilloscope, rather than a nicer desk unit, since he does not figure on needing it much.
Nice video,thanks
now that was a great vid, very odd fault .. thanks for posting .
I was thinking more Columbo than Tom and Jerry 😂
Hi Sorin, That was pretty cool episode of tom and jerry. Can you discuss importance of grounding solidering iron. Can it damage components if not grounded? I noticed on one of soldering iron. SMD LED lights up very slightly while attempting to solder. Thanks
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From now on i will always describe a tricky repair as a 'Tom and Jerry' repair!
great repair! but if the main power rail is pulsing, does it mean that there is another issue with this laptop and could it mean that this issue kind of disappearing because of the input caps at each power supply?!
yes, a new video! now i can start the day better
18 minutes in and I was thinking lid sensor. Also the brightness won't work with default windows 10 drivers only after windows update the driver
wow , new fault and you fixed it
Может быть пульсации термистора вызывали сбои в формировании высокого напряжения на плате монитора. Для любопытства, КОНДЕНСАТОР! Мог бы убрать пульсации и монитор может быть бы заработал? То есть всегда конденсатор убирали чтобы починить, а теперь его можно было бы добавить))
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I am a bit confused but it being Monday that can be the cause. Weren't inverters used on LCD displays that used cold cathode lamps in the LCD for backlights? The inverter I think were to convert the DC in the laptop to AC for the cold cathode display tubes. Newer LCDs that use LEDs for backlights do not use inverters. Is that correct or have i mixed something up?
Greetings Teachy. When we solve this PWM situation, we say "my fat melted". You are great, dad.
The proper calibrated fuse might be choosen a bit to low for the ~260 mA there
It's a laptop warmer. :-)
@@WayneSallee-comTech :D you just made my evening with your answer, thanks for that =)
I have a Lenovo laptop with a similar issue; but some screens do work fine, others don't (2 out of 10 in the shop, both are smashed 😅). I can adjust backlight brightness, but backlight keeps flickering, it almost stops at some brightness levels.
I love what you do❤