South Africa's Secret Nuclear Weapons

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  • During the Cold War, South Africa actually possessed nuclear weapons. However, they had to be a bit secretive to acquire them and test them.
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    00:00 - Intro
    02:26 - South Africa Before Going Nuclear
    04:55 - Sharing Data
    09:14 - Building a Small Arsenal
    11:11 - Destroying the Arsenal
    Music Used:
    "Decisions" by Kevin MacLeod
    found at www.incompetech.com
    Sources:
    - Albright, David; Gay, Corey (November-December 1997). "Proliferation: A flash from the past". Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists. 53: 15-17.
    - Burns, John F. “French Company to Build South African Atom Plant.” The New York Times, May 30, 1976.
    - Keller, Bill. "South Africa Says It Built 6 Atom Bombs." The New York Times, March 25, 1993.
    - McGreal, Chris. "Brothers in arms - Israel's secret pact with Pretoria." - The Guardian, UK, February 7, 2006.
    - Pabian, Frank V. “South Africa’s Nuclear Weapon Program: Lessons for U.S. Nonproliferation Policy.” The Nonproliferation Review 3, no. 1 (1995): 1-19.
    - “South African Nuclear History.” The Wilson Center Digital Archive. digitalarchive.wilsoncenter.or....

Комментарии • 362

  • @zacharia1747
    @zacharia1747 8 месяцев назад +182

    During apartheid, my grandfather used to work at a company called Barlows and would get contracts from the SADF to develop their radar technology and radios. He would regularly go on trips to Israel. He often used to tell my uncles about how accurate missiles had gotten. There is no doubt in my mind that both Israel and South Africa cooperated in nuclear tests.

    • @icrushchildrensdreams4556
      @icrushchildrensdreams4556 8 месяцев назад +16

      Old south africa and Israel seem to have more in common lol

    • @Eric-kn4yn
      @Eric-kn4yn 8 месяцев назад

      Documented evidence please

    • @zacharia1747
      @zacharia1747 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@Eric-kn4yn ​ What specifically?
      The nuclear tests, there was barely any documented evidence back then doubt I there is any now.
      Barlows the company rebranded to Barloworld after the collapse of apartheid. It still exists but they don't get any defence contracts. They have a website with their history on it.
      The radios my grandfather designed were the A53, A55, B56, B57 and the A72. All contracted under Barlows.
      They are covered on the South African defence website, DefenceWeb under the title South African tactical radios.
      After the sanctions, my grandfather was cut from the company and later ended up selling the old house and most of the stuff he had. My uncle still has one of his old radios though.
      Sorry for not being able to provide links for the two websites but youtube keeps on auto deleting my comments.

    • @Phansikhongolza
      @Phansikhongolza 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@icrushchildrensdreams4556why add the LOL????

    • @dragma907
      @dragma907 8 месяцев назад +3

      Israelies were instrumental in ending apartheid.

  • @RavingCelt009
    @RavingCelt009 8 месяцев назад +259

    Do one about Israel’s “secret” nukes

    • @pabilbadoespecial
      @pabilbadoespecial 8 месяцев назад +44

      The Mossad wants to know your location

    • @pabilbadoespecial
      @pabilbadoespecial 8 месяцев назад +6

      I would also prefer not to

    • @l0lLorenzol0l
      @l0lLorenzol0l 8 месяцев назад +56

      worse kept secret ever, but by design

    • @chimera9818
      @chimera9818 8 месяцев назад +7

      We have textile factory, what are you talking about 😅

    • @ommsterlitz1805
      @ommsterlitz1805 8 месяцев назад +9

      Does he want mossad coming in his house with silenced 22lr pistols ?

  • @marcello7781
    @marcello7781 8 месяцев назад +304

    I remember that even Argentina tried to start a nuclear program.

    • @nottherealpaulsmith
      @nottherealpaulsmith 8 месяцев назад +45

      They had a ballistic missile program too!

    • @cassianoneto1553
      @cassianoneto1553 8 месяцев назад +87

      Argentina and Brazil were in a nuclear arms race like the one between India and Pakistan. They got pretty far before reaching an agreement for both sides to stop and sign the nuclear non proliferation treaty to avoid spreading nukes. The research is done tho, so if you ever look at a map or list of “nuclear capable countries” you’ll notice Brazil and Argentina are often listed as countries that could have nukes within a year or two if they ever decided to go for it.

    • @HalfLifeExpert1
      @HalfLifeExpert1 8 месяцев назад +52

      Sweden did as well. They ended up scrapping in the 1960s, it partially due to cost, but also because a secret agreement was worked out with the US that in exchange for Sweden not building nukes, the country would be covered under the US Nuclear Umbrella, despite not being a NATO member (at the time),

    • @gabrielalejandrodoldan4722
      @gabrielalejandrodoldan4722 8 месяцев назад +5

      Perón Perón
      Que grande sos
      Mi general
      Ahre

    • @scottlillard561
      @scottlillard561 8 месяцев назад

      Omg, sadly, the only people they would probably end up nuking would be the IMF!

  • @HalfLifeExpert1
    @HalfLifeExpert1 8 месяцев назад +126

    9:49 This is very important. Southern Africa is very much a forgotten theatre of Cold War I. Also, there is a theory that the South African government didn't decide to scrap it's nukes out of altruistic/end of Cold War reasons, but rather the end of Apartheid was imminent and the white leadership did not trust nukes in the hands of Black Africans. I don't have an opinion on this question, but it is very true that SA is the only state to build and completely dismantle a nuclear arsenal, a so far unrepeated feat.

    • @occam7382
      @occam7382 8 месяцев назад +1

      It's likely that dismantling their nuclear program was one of the Apartheid government's last big middle fingers to its black populace... I wouldn't put it past them.

    • @Peichen01
      @Peichen01 8 месяцев назад +28

      Do you really want to hand nukes to those people?

    • @pescavelho6151
      @pescavelho6151 8 месяцев назад +9

      It was a combination of the usual racism plus the somewhat understandable concern of being a minority in a country that can't be invaded (just ask the Uyghurs and Palestinians).

    • @dreadhead5719
      @dreadhead5719 8 месяцев назад +33

      @@Peichen01 well "those people" have yet to nuke anyone or cause wars of global scale, so i don't see the issue.

    • @desran4447
      @desran4447 8 месяцев назад +27

      ​@@dreadhead5719Not for the lack of trying - just how many civil and regular wars Sub-Saharan African countries went through after less than a century of independence? Do you actually believe that not a single one of all the sides would use a nuke given the chance? Its not like there wasn't an ocassional genocide/ethnic cleansing, which are quite common, considering how little time theese people had to themselves. The only reason African conflicts never became global is that there is no power in Africa capable of starting one, they never even overcome their regional rivals, forget about becoming a threat to succesfull medium-tier powers like Australia or North African states. Just because black people never were succesfull in colonizing anyone but other black people don't assume they don't want to

  • @junkerju8796
    @junkerju8796 8 месяцев назад +151

    Interesting fact, during the cold war there was almost a "nuclear axis" between the three orphans of international politics of Israel, Soth Africa and Taiwan. All three of these countries are isolated on the international stage and worked together for nuclear weapons. However in Taiwan's first attempts for nukes in the 70s, the CIA noticed the anomalies and the US government gave pressure to force Taiwan to stop their nuclear program as well as a promise to never developing nuclear weapons since their positions is a lot more dangerous than Israel and South Africa with the possibility of triggering a nuclear war with China. However they broke this promise again in the late 80s and restarted the program, with estimates of completion with in one or two year before a scientist who was secretly a CIA agent leaked the info and the US once again forced Taiwan to cease all nuclear research.

    • @longhairdontcare122
      @longhairdontcare122 8 месяцев назад +9

      One day. Never stop believing Taiwan 🇹🇼.

    • @gratefulguy4130
      @gratefulguy4130 8 месяцев назад

      Yet we allowed the ccp to walk away with suitcase nukes..

    • @Phansikhongolza
      @Phansikhongolza 8 месяцев назад +1

      South Africa and Afghanistan are the only two countries to defeat the USSR and her proxies on the battlefield.
      That really pisses the yanks off who lost in Korea and Vietnam.

    • @rexthewolf3149
      @rexthewolf3149 8 месяцев назад +4

      @@Phansikhongolzais this bait.

    • @gdsnowmeows3342
      @gdsnowmeows3342 7 месяцев назад +4

      @@rexthewolf3149almost certainly, Poland and Estonia also defeated them so that comment is incorrect

  • @michaelkirschner7471
    @michaelkirschner7471 8 месяцев назад +72

    Having a nuclear weapon is not such a big deal these days, my uncle recently started a nuclear weapons program as a hobby he even let me hold some cobalt-60

    • @ma-moomoo
      @ma-moomoo 8 месяцев назад +2

      sorry wut

    • @djdjukic
      @djdjukic 8 месяцев назад +2

      HOL' UP

    • @kevinjoy155
      @kevinjoy155 8 месяцев назад

      Ayo

    • @fullmetaltheorist
      @fullmetaltheorist 8 месяцев назад +2

      I mean you're right. The information to make them is pretty widely available. They just cost too much to make and maintain.

    • @charlesburgoyne-probyn6044
      @charlesburgoyne-probyn6044 8 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@fullmetaltheoristit's not the know how it's the fissile material not exactly the stuff one can produce or procure in any quantity on the sly

  • @SamAronow
    @SamAronow 8 месяцев назад +37

    8:14 fun fact: one of those spies was Edward Teller.

  • @nacelnikprosiak1260
    @nacelnikprosiak1260 8 месяцев назад +41

    Many people don't know this but Saudi Arabia is also suspected in having nukes as Saudi royal family supported Pakistani nuclear program financially and its believed that they have agreement on dual ownership of that nuclear arsenal

    • @user-nn8cw6nv6g
      @user-nn8cw6nv6g 8 месяцев назад

      They do not have nukes. They are currently trying to get a light green from the US to build civil nuclear reactors (of course from there, the way to a bomb is short).

    • @UmbraHand
      @UmbraHand 8 месяцев назад +11

      Issue is the fact that Saudi Arabia is aggressively trying to get nuclear reactors

    • @kainhall
      @kainhall 8 месяцев назад

      I'd belive it
      .
      The Saudi government is pretty evil/trash/idk the word..... not good
      .
      We invaded the wrong country twice due to back door deals, politics, money, oil, etc

    • @Carl-Gauss
      @Carl-Gauss 6 месяцев назад

      @@UmbraHandIt’s harder to build a nuclear a reactor than a low-yield nuclear bomb though.

    • @UmbraHand
      @UmbraHand 6 месяцев назад

      @@Carl-Gauss Issue being? One is legal and allows you to get nukes easily. You need nuclear reactors to breed plutonium which is the ideal component for a fission bomb or a thermonuclear one.

  • @Diablodave363isawsum
    @Diablodave363isawsum 8 месяцев назад +181

    Really makes you think about how many other nuclear-capable countries there could've been in the other countries of southern Africa. The world would be a lot more different if that were the case

    • @nuwcz
      @nuwcz 8 месяцев назад +40

      imagine nuclear rhodesia

    • @hawkishOwl2020
      @hawkishOwl2020 8 месяцев назад +5

      1:07 🇴🇲 Oman was a nuclear power? Should it be blue or was it mistaken for Pakistan?

    • @occam7382
      @occam7382 8 месяцев назад +29

      @@hawkishOwl2020, in 1968, Oman was part of the British Empire, so it's labeled red as a part of Britain.

    • @hawkishOwl2020
      @hawkishOwl2020 8 месяцев назад +8

      @occam7382 I thought that, then wiki said something about autonomous, independent, mutual association with the British... whatever.

    • @occam7382
      @occam7382 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@hawkishOwl2020, it's confusing as hell, I know.

  • @svyalinirnhut890
    @svyalinirnhut890 8 месяцев назад +15

    Judging by the current state of South Africa, I'm sure glad they got rid of their nukes.

    • @joshharley5397
      @joshharley5397 7 месяцев назад

      They were only dismantled because we knew we could not trust them in the hands of the new leadership.

  • @ommsterlitz1805
    @ommsterlitz1805 8 месяцев назад +15

    5:36 Holy Sh France can build entire nuclear PLANETS since the the 70's 🤯🤯😰😰😨😨🫣😮😮😅

    • @kainhall
      @kainhall 8 месяцев назад +2

      I didn't catch that!! Nice catch!!
      Hilarious
      .
      France is the true nuke superpower lol

  • @notak4046
    @notak4046 8 месяцев назад +15

    Atoms for Peace program was also beginning of the Romanian nuclear program, known as the "Danube Program" which lasted from 1981 to 1989. Unfortunately, little is known about this program because a lot of information is still classified.

  • @NewSuperWario2
    @NewSuperWario2 8 месяцев назад +28

    Spain also had a nuclear program and was close to achieving a bomb, but the person in charge (Carrero Blanco) was killed by ETA (Basque separatist terrorists) and Franco died two years after that, and the program was dismantled

    • @tomtomtrent
      @tomtomtrent 8 месяцев назад +13

      Respect to the first Spanish astronaut 💥🚗👨‍🚀 🫡🇪🇸

    • @antonseoane9092
      @antonseoane9092 8 месяцев назад +5

      That's not how that happened, Carrero blanco was not in charge of it (It was Agustin Muñoz) and it ended in the 80's because of American pressure

    • @writerconsidered
      @writerconsidered 8 месяцев назад

      Well you made me look that up. I have very rusty Spanish history. I was surprised Franco was still in power at that time. I think I assumed he went by the way side after WW2 like Mussolini. But no. I guess not getting into unwinnable wars helps maintain your power.

  • @mrmr446
    @mrmr446 8 месяцев назад +21

    Some in the South African Apartheid regime were convinced an ANC victory would lead to the country becoming a Soviet satellite. They were very paranoid even for the era.

    • @Woistwahrheit
      @Woistwahrheit 8 месяцев назад +3

      As a South African who's also a socialist I've ought to say that I hate what my ancestors have done, hell, even my close family members use the word "Kaffir" alot. (the k-word is used for demonstrative purposes, it is a slur used during die Apartheid)

    • @Phansikhongolza
      @Phansikhongolza 8 месяцев назад +2

      Of course a South Africa under the mandela's anc would have become satillite state of the USSR.
      That's the very reason we went to war with the USSR.
      So we defeated the USSR in Angola which assisted in the collapse of the USSR and the end of the Cold War. Which in turn forced the West to put pressure on us to unban the anc and sacp.
      So in effect we were the architects of our own downfall.
      We had to surrender the country we built to the invading black man from west Africa.

    • @mrmr446
      @mrmr446 8 месяцев назад +5

      @@Phansikhongolza Do you need a hug? The old classic of racist with a chip on their shoulder.

    • @Phansikhongolza
      @Phansikhongolza 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@mrmr446 Shows how ignorant and misinformed you are.

    • @The_king567
      @The_king567 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@Woistwahrheitthat’s why people don’t respect you

  • @neves5083
    @neves5083 8 месяцев назад +5

    Yo i like this diversification in channel content. Amazing video :D
    And that video about South African policy would be interesting

  • @Robi2009
    @Robi2009 8 месяцев назад +3

    That's one of the reasons I love this channel: history topics I had no idea about

  • @caeruleusvm7621
    @caeruleusvm7621 8 месяцев назад +1

    A well balanced, well researched and concisely presented video Very interesting.

  • @Steve-GM0HUU
    @Steve-GM0HUU 7 месяцев назад

    👍Thanks for video. Very interesting.

  • @dendostar5436
    @dendostar5436 8 месяцев назад +9

    I CLICKED SO HARD!
    This is a great topic!

  • @cossackhistorian7425
    @cossackhistorian7425 8 месяцев назад +13

    There was a fear in the later years and especially after 1991 that potentially there could be foreign US lead intervention in South Africa, especially if the army decided to save apartheid and overthrow De Klerk

    • @caseclosed9342
      @caseclosed9342 8 месяцев назад +5

      And there was a fear of civil war breaking out in SA with the AWB and Bantustan governments resisting the end of apartheid.

    • @065Tim
      @065Tim 8 месяцев назад +1

      The US opposing apartheid?

    • @cossackhistorian7425
      @cossackhistorian7425 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@065Tim yes, especially by the 80’s when South Africa was developing nukes. If White South Africa was still around with apartheid today the USA would probably consider it it’s greatest adversary

  • @bfedezl2018
    @bfedezl2018 8 месяцев назад +5

    Spain also had a secret nuclear program that went really far along sir the developement process

  • @phelimridley6727
    @phelimridley6727 7 месяцев назад

    @2:46 could it possible to say it was a different state ? 🤔
    Only kidding 😉 great video. Liked. Keep it up !

  • @SelfRaisingWheat
    @SelfRaisingWheat 8 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for this video about my country, you covered the topic well. Your pronounciation was off but there's no reason to hold that against you considering your nationality and main audience. Well done.

  • @stalin4143
    @stalin4143 8 месяцев назад +6

    I would love to see a video about Sweden's secret nuclear program.
    Its only reason for not coming to fruition was one vote in parliament. And the program continuing decades even after the parliament voted no.
    They had all the necessary parts for a bomb, only waiting for the green light for its assembly. As well as Sweden, at one time, was producing enough plutonium for 60 nukes a year.

    • @rebelusa6585
      @rebelusa6585 8 месяцев назад

      To me, sweden is a small country with a small population, extremely cold weather. But sweden are a rich modern, highly advance country. Simply amazing.

  • @jacobdalland1390
    @jacobdalland1390 8 месяцев назад +2

    Good video. By the way, you accidentally typed "planet" instead of "plant" at 5:31.

  • @compatriot852
    @compatriot852 8 месяцев назад +33

    There are many countries that shouldn't be armed with nuclear weapons, South Africa would definitely be one of them.

    • @jerrytealeaf
      @jerrytealeaf 8 месяцев назад +13

      It's simple: my side gets them your side doesn't!

    • @mildlydispleased3221
      @mildlydispleased3221 8 месяцев назад +8

      Despite internal unrest, South Africa is still the most free and one of the most stable African countries, even with such rife corruption, nuclear arms would never be deployed.

    • @menschman98
      @menschman98 8 месяцев назад +5

      None should be armed with nuclear weapons

    • @KaiHung-wv3ul
      @KaiHung-wv3ul 8 месяцев назад +14

      @@mildlydispleased3221 I mean, "one of the most stable African countries" is not a high standard.

    • @Woistwahrheit
      @Woistwahrheit 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@mildlydispleased3221 I will destroy my government, the ANC shall perish and be replaced by a party of free ideals

  • @johndonaldson3306
    @johndonaldson3306 7 месяцев назад +3

    Now South Africa can’t even run a coal power station.😂

  • @Mindecrafter
    @Mindecrafter 8 месяцев назад +1

    5:35 France over here helping South Africa build a Death Star (before Star Wars was even a thing)

  • @robertjarman3703
    @robertjarman3703 8 месяцев назад +2

    My dad´s family is from South Africa, the British side of it, and so yeah, that would definitely be a topic of interest to me.

    • @occam7382
      @occam7382 6 месяцев назад

      That makes me curious about something: what did British South Africans think of Apartheid? Did they just accept it, or was there some opposition to it on their end?

  • @loadeddice4696
    @loadeddice4696 8 месяцев назад +3

    As mentioned in Tom Lehrer's Who's Next? - "South Africa wants two, that's right/one bomb for the black and one for the white"

    • @schrire39
      @schrire39 6 дней назад

      I always found that lyric a bit awkward - we talk “the blacks” and “the whites”- in the plural. I think Lehrer could have written “South Africa wants two - relax!/ there’ll be one for the whites and one for the blacks”

  • @JERealize
    @JERealize 8 месяцев назад

    A remake of an older, much shorter video, now with absolutely zero Toto references? I'm sold.

  • @atomsmash100
    @atomsmash100 8 месяцев назад

    Great topic, and well researched. The Vela incident in particular is still debated today. Israel's alleged involvement is also not a surprise.

  • @scottrobinson3281
    @scottrobinson3281 8 месяцев назад +1

    A very accurate account of the program. FW de Klerk, I think, saw himself as the Gorbachev of South Africa. Gorbachev set in motion the events which would change the world, so indirectly he was responsible for SA abandoning nuclear weapons.

    • @joshharley5397
      @joshharley5397 7 месяцев назад

      De Klerk was a collaborator with terrorists. He has the blood of millions of White and black South Africans on his hands

  • @tedrex8959
    @tedrex8959 8 месяцев назад +2

    How true it is I don't know but many years ago there was talk that Israel swapped nuclear assistance to S.A. in exchange for their knowledge of chemical and biological weapons.

  • @TheFlameoftheWest
    @TheFlameoftheWest 8 месяцев назад

    Nice

  • @sergiom9958
    @sergiom9958 8 месяцев назад +1

    It is not clear if Spain, through its proyect “Islero” (nuclear arms development program), manage to produce working bombs or not. What is known, is that between 4 to 8 prototypes were built but never tested (it is classified if nuclear material was incorporated or not). Also, in 1982, Spain finally renounced to have nuclear arms and destroyed the prototypes. So maybe South Africa was not the only country to destroy its own nuclear weapons.

  • @vyr1010
    @vyr1010 8 месяцев назад +3

    Omg youtube, it really is south africa's secret nuke! 😵‍💫

  • @omayaki5264
    @omayaki5264 8 месяцев назад +3

    Why ist there a blue dot in the middle of the US on the map? (At 1:16)

    • @CarpeVerpa
      @CarpeVerpa 8 месяцев назад

      The US, USSR, and UK are nuclear powers that also ratified the NPT, which is indicated by the blue dots.

  • @hiphip4808
    @hiphip4808 8 месяцев назад

    I got recommended a Tigerstar video?!

  • @escobasingracia962
    @escobasingracia962 8 месяцев назад +1

    I tried to make a drinking challenge for my self by taking a little drink of my beer every time he said "nuclear". I have just drunk 1 liter of beer

  • @icommittedwarcrimesinserbia
    @icommittedwarcrimesinserbia 5 месяцев назад +2

    south africa gaming

  • @mappingshaman5280
    @mappingshaman5280 8 месяцев назад +9

    Nowadays south Africa can't even manage power stations, imagine if they had nuclear weapons.

  • @T.GLongstaff
    @T.GLongstaff 8 месяцев назад +1

    Hey I’m the thousand person to like this video. Never had that happen before it’s asinine but kinda cool

  • @Yabuturtle
    @Yabuturtle 8 месяцев назад +5

    Should never have given them up. Like with Ukraine, who had nukes, and probably wouldn't have been invaded by Russia if they kept them.

    • @Eric-kn4yn
      @Eric-kn4yn 8 месяцев назад

      Ukraine nukes under russian command and control buffoon

  • @KevlarIlluminati
    @KevlarIlluminati 8 месяцев назад

    @5:48 'nuclear power planet' heh.

  • @Eric-kn4yn
    @Eric-kn4yn 8 месяцев назад +1

    What consequences for reneging on NPT

  • @billpugh58
    @billpugh58 8 месяцев назад +1

    I find it suspicious that no one has talked about being at the alleged test. Not one person has come forwards to say they were there yet hundred must have been involved!

  • @harrygardner4396
    @harrygardner4396 8 месяцев назад +35

    It's not surprising that apartheid South Africa and apartheid Israel were allies

    • @newpaperyes
      @newpaperyes 8 месяцев назад +3

      oh bother.

    • @kainhall
      @kainhall 8 месяцев назад

      It's so funny that fellow Americans don't know about the attack on the USS liberty
      .
      We didn't really like Israel till the 70s/80s

    • @souvikrc4499
      @souvikrc4499 8 месяцев назад

      Which is ironic, because the far-right NP had its share of anti-semites, and some South African Jews were involved in the fight against apartheid

    • @robertoroberto9798
      @robertoroberto9798 8 месяцев назад +1

      “Apartheid” Israel...
      Do you need to be reminded on how Palestine treats Jews? Because it’s significantly worse than how Israel treats Arabs.

    • @The_king567
      @The_king567 8 месяцев назад

      Lol of course you people would bring up Israel you people wonder why they hate you and don’t respect you

  • @CAROLDDISCOVER-FINDER2525
    @CAROLDDISCOVER-FINDER2525 7 месяцев назад

    Episodes like this helps us all realize the world's a little bit more scarier than we think 🤔.

  • @duncanreeves225
    @duncanreeves225 8 месяцев назад

    0:35 why does this map look this way? Why is there a blue spot in the middle of the US? Why are Omam and the UAE still part of the UK?

  • @hmshood9212
    @hmshood9212 8 месяцев назад

    Why do I think they’ve got a few in deep storage still?

  • @baraalayan1422
    @baraalayan1422 8 месяцев назад

    what happened to tigray war, the war ended long ago with no video

  • @Sylvysprit
    @Sylvysprit 8 месяцев назад +4

    As a Dutch person, i wonder if your pronounciation of Frederik Willem de Klerk is just wrong, or if my assumption that it would be pronounced very similairly to how it would be pronounced in Dutch is wrong
    Regardless, this is a good video, i didn't know South Africa had nuclear weapons before

    • @paulbester1571
      @paulbester1571 8 месяцев назад +1

      Nope he pronounced it 'to the best of his abilities' in afrikaans. Afrikaans pronunciation differs quite dramatically from its dutch roots after about 2 hundred years of separation from the dutch mainland.
      [edit: Tiger tried his best to pronounce the afrikaans version of the name but struggled to get it right and apparently now both the afrikaans and dutch people are mad that it is not perfect in either language, give the guy some credit for trying.]

    • @ananonynoussauce7616
      @ananonynoussauce7616 8 месяцев назад

      ​@paulbester1571 I disagree. That's not how I or anyone else I know would pronounce F.W. de Klerk. I don't know how the dutch would pronounce it, but his pronunciation of Frederik Willem sounds almost like German to me whilst his pronunciation of de Klerk sounds English

    • @paulbester1571
      @paulbester1571 8 месяцев назад

      @@ananonynoussauce7616 bro the dude is an American. Of course the pronunciation is not perfect but he tried his best. And i will say again that his pronunciation for his name was correct for Afrikaans, not dutch, which is the entire reason for this thread in the first place.

    • @ananonynoussauce7616
      @ananonynoussauce7616 8 месяцев назад

      @@paulbester1571 well yeah, I don't care that he got it wrong, it's a hard name and I didn't expect him too. Glad he tried at least. But that is still definitely not right for Afrikaans. That's what the thread was about, does Afrikaans pronounce it like that, I don't agree that it does.
      Dis snaaks dat ons altwee Afrikaners is en dit verskillend hoor, wonder hoekom. Dalk het ons altwee verskillende Afrikaanse aksente. Maar vir my klink dit heeltemal verkeerd vir Afrikaans.

    • @powertechnical
      @powertechnical 8 месяцев назад

      Nee hy sê dit nie heeltemal reg nie en jy kan hoor dit is n computer stem. Die Willem gedeelte klink meer Duits en sal graag die nederlandse spraak wil hoor.

  • @saleemkirmani5583
    @saleemkirmani5583 5 месяцев назад

    Brazil came up a design of a 30 kiloton nuclear device before opening everything up for the IAEA.

  • @yoh-dude3335
    @yoh-dude3335 8 месяцев назад

    interesting

  • @marym7104
    @marym7104 8 месяцев назад

    Within 23 hours!

  • @thequimsnaim
    @thequimsnaim 8 месяцев назад

    Gotta boost boost boost

  • @revinhatol
    @revinhatol 8 месяцев назад +1

    They should have used that energy from their weaponry to provide electricity to rural homes!

  • @bigbodytadjp
    @bigbodytadjp 8 месяцев назад +2

    Why the blue dot in the middle of the US? Sioux or Dakota nations?

    • @halo3soap114
      @halo3soap114 8 месяцев назад

      I was wondering the same thing.

    • @CarpeVerpa
      @CarpeVerpa 8 месяцев назад

      The US, USSR, and UK all ratified the NPT while also being nuclear powers. That's what the blue dots are meant to indicate.

  • @aaronmarks9366
    @aaronmarks9366 8 месяцев назад +1

    "It was called Safari 1"
    Because HippoZebraElephantGiraffeRhinoAfrica!!1!111 was already taken

  • @GeneralGayJay
    @GeneralGayJay 8 месяцев назад +2

    Ukraine has thought us never to give up your Nuclear stock.

  • @velocityy13
    @velocityy13 8 месяцев назад +1

    South africa

  • @FKHC2005
    @FKHC2005 8 месяцев назад

    peaceful purposes only....like this death ray i just built.

  • @very-mean-spirited-lizard
    @very-mean-spirited-lizard 8 месяцев назад +1

    2:00 spelling mistake in second line

  • @waywardstoner9416
    @waywardstoner9416 8 месяцев назад +13

    For all we know there could be plenty of other countries carrying nukes of their own.

    • @w3wl4d
      @w3wl4d 8 месяцев назад

      I think we’re pretty certain the only secret nuclear powers have been SA and Israel

    • @Michaelonyoutub
      @Michaelonyoutub 8 месяцев назад +11

      Building nukes isn't easy, which means it require a lot of effort, a lot of people, and a lot of resources, all of which must be kept secret. You can't keep something of that scale completely secret, so we are actually pretty confident on which countries almost certainly do not have weapons, which ones have taken steps in that direction, and which countries have weapons. Also if a country goes as far as to test a weapon, a nuclear explosion is basically impossible to hide so then we are pretty sure at that point.

  • @nitricoxidegod
    @nitricoxidegod 8 месяцев назад

    👍

  • @nicholaspbachinski827
    @nicholaspbachinski827 8 месяцев назад

    I can't believe you got this wrong, clearly it was big boss and the development of........ METAL GEAR!

  • @theforgetfulone7942
    @theforgetfulone7942 8 месяцев назад +1

    We miss our nukes

  • @turkishmappingtheturkishguy
    @turkishmappingtheturkishguy 8 месяцев назад

    İ fr realised Tiger star changed his name to I

  • @rehurekj
    @rehurekj 8 месяцев назад +6

    well, if im honest id be as, if not even a bit more, worried if it was todays and not 70s South Africa which successfully acquired nuclear weaponry.
    the track record of post-apartheid South Africa and they politicians when it comes to social stability, inequality, corruption, even human rights and democracy( e.g. mainstream politicians from parties in government openly supporting and calling for murder of ppl of certain ethical group) isnt all that stellar and IMO in certain aspects just as bad, if not even worse if its even possible, than the one of the regime that preceded them.

    • @mildlydispleased3221
      @mildlydispleased3221 8 месяцев назад

      The difference is, these politicians are calling for murder while the old regime actually murdered people.

  • @JM-mg4el
    @JM-mg4el 8 месяцев назад +2

    A shame what happened to south africa

  • @jiggsborah7041
    @jiggsborah7041 7 месяцев назад

    must be broken by now

  • @pablohabibefigueiredo7142
    @pablohabibefigueiredo7142 8 месяцев назад

    The map shoulded show Namibia as part of South Africa at the time...

  • @waffle6376
    @waffle6376 8 месяцев назад

    What if Hong kong has a nuke

  • @vladimirmihnev9702
    @vladimirmihnev9702 8 месяцев назад +3

    And they had electricity back before 94

  • @l0lLorenzol0l
    @l0lLorenzol0l 8 месяцев назад +13

    Thank God South Africa got rid of their nukes once Apartheid ended, can't imagine how bad current South Africa would be at keeping those safe.

    • @occam7382
      @occam7382 8 месяцев назад +9

      I mean, Apartheid South Africa having them wouldn't exactly be better.

    • @Peichen01
      @Peichen01 8 месяцев назад +10

      Apartheid SA is at least a country, current SA is a tribal federation

    • @occam7382
      @occam7382 8 месяцев назад +5

      @@Peichen01, you know, I've noticed you really don't like modern South Africa. I mean, South Africa is a complete mess, true, but you really seem to hate them, for some reason.

    • @emperorfanta364
      @emperorfanta364 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@occam7382 He's just a racist who doesn't like dark skinned people. Just ignore him.

    • @l0lLorenzol0l
      @l0lLorenzol0l 8 месяцев назад +7

      @@Peichen01 No, a Tribal Federation would be more trustworthy with nukes than modern South Africa imo. At least there would be strong ties of honor between tribesmen in that case.

  • @Melody_Raventress
    @Melody_Raventress 8 месяцев назад

    Well, they weren't very good nuclear weapons, at least. Gun type, as I recall. Besides which, how the hell did everyone learn about a _cold_ test site?? Something like that, should have been all but invisible. Majorly incompetent. Vela island incident has fascinated me since I first read about it, years ago. who done it?

  • @JohnSmith-zw8vp
    @JohnSmith-zw8vp 7 месяцев назад

    The fact that the first five nuclear weapon countries happen to also be the five permanent members of the UN Security Council I'm guessing is no coincidence.

    • @occam7382
      @occam7382 6 месяцев назад

      Eh... it's weird. Although it should be noted that the People's Republic of China was not in the UN when it developed nuclear weapons. In 1964, the Republic of China was still the one on the Security Council.

  • @martkbanjoboy8853
    @martkbanjoboy8853 8 месяцев назад +1

    I am glad Canada has no weapons of this kind because of Quebec and Trudescu. I don't want such an unstable questionable regime with a mentally unstable ruler having control of such weapons. That's the only reason.

  • @michaelhowell2326
    @michaelhowell2326 8 месяцев назад +3

    If A possible Anglosphere between US, UK, Australia, Canada and South Africa, some of the Commonwealth cou tries, and possibly Israel could be established, they would some good stuff.

    • @mappingshaman5280
      @mappingshaman5280 8 месяцев назад +1

      Lmao no. I don't want my taxes going to attempting to stabilise South Africa, or the rest of the commonwealth in africa, or the Jewish colonisation of Palestine

  • @TomFynn
    @TomFynn 8 месяцев назад

    South Africa wants two, that's right:
    One for the black and one for the white."
    Tom Lehrer - Who's Next?

  • @macsenplays
    @macsenplays 8 месяцев назад +4

    Hmm, rare case of the US and the Soviets cooperating to stop another country from getting the bomb.

    • @mildlydispleased3221
      @mildlydispleased3221 8 месяцев назад +3

      Common case of racism.

    • @joeyvg07
      @joeyvg07 8 месяцев назад

      Wasn't there also a plan to stop China from developing the bomb, or did I imagine that?

    • @mappingshaman5280
      @mappingshaman5280 8 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@mildlydispleased3221lmao neither the soviets nor America supported apartheid.

    • @mildlydispleased3221
      @mildlydispleased3221 8 месяцев назад

      @@mappingshaman5280 They both supported the prevention of the incoming black government from acquiring nuclear weapons.

    • @mappingshaman5280
      @mappingshaman5280 8 месяцев назад +2

      @mildlydispleased3221 they would have supported the prevention of ANY government that is not them acquiring nuclear weapons. They didn't want apartheid south Africa getting them either

  • @marym7104
    @marym7104 8 месяцев назад

    16,845th viewer of this video!

  • @MrSimonw58
    @MrSimonw58 8 месяцев назад +2

    And electricity

  • @explodingwolfgaming8024
    @explodingwolfgaming8024 8 месяцев назад

    Commenting 4 algorithm

  • @dylandettorre6583
    @dylandettorre6583 8 месяцев назад

    SA is actually the only nation to start and then end their own nuclear program

  • @m.g.3013
    @m.g.3013 8 месяцев назад

    >nuclear power planet

  • @Tom-jg9de
    @Tom-jg9de 8 месяцев назад +4

    Madagascar shood have a nuke

    • @Woistwahrheit
      @Woistwahrheit 8 месяцев назад

      You'll be conquered by the SOUTH AFRICAN military!!! The federation will be born!

  • @LAHFaust
    @LAHFaust 8 месяцев назад

    South Africa wants two, that's right:
    One for the black and one for the white!
    Who's next?

  • @LVZVRUS
    @LVZVRUS 8 месяцев назад

    ons vir jou suid afrika

  • @user-hp5bc5cy2l
    @user-hp5bc5cy2l 8 месяцев назад

    Ukraine never built a nuclear arsenal
    let alone voluntarily dismantled it
    I expected better Tigerstar.

  • @socratesthecomedian
    @socratesthecomedian 8 месяцев назад

    Whatifalthist I know that is your voice. Lol

  • @carlbates9110
    @carlbates9110 8 месяцев назад +30

    South Africa’s nukes would’ve almost certainly ended up “missing” if the ANC government was given responsibility over them.

    • @mildlydispleased3221
      @mildlydispleased3221 8 месяцев назад +7

      Jacob Zuma would've sold them to extend his palace.

    • @mappingshaman5280
      @mappingshaman5280 8 месяцев назад +1

      They'd have probably exploded by mistake if the current government possessed them.

    • @fullmetaltheorist
      @fullmetaltheorist 8 месяцев назад

      Lost in the fire pool.@@mildlydispleased3221

  • @teleikegaisct-bi1cs
    @teleikegaisct-bi1cs 8 месяцев назад

    mepoiut

  • @taylorclark2100
    @taylorclark2100 8 месяцев назад +4

    "THAT south Africa"... you mean the good south africa.

  • @geoffreylee5199
    @geoffreylee5199 6 месяцев назад +2

    Pronounced APART-Hate.

  • @graphosxp
    @graphosxp 8 месяцев назад

    South Africa getting nukes led to a very *rare* and serious *rebuke* of Israel from GOP Republican Senator Bob Dole on the *actual* Senate floor! 😳

  • @LuciFeric137
    @LuciFeric137 8 месяцев назад +1

    Don't give up your nukes ~ Ukraine

  • @C21H30O2
    @C21H30O2 8 месяцев назад +3

    2:33 yeah apartheid ending was a great thing for South Africa. Look at it today.
    😅

  • @pyropulseIXXI
    @pyropulseIXXI 8 месяцев назад +2

    Preventing the spread of nuclear weapons literally has nothing to do with 'keeping them out of the hands of *_irrational_* dictators," and everything to do with the West wanting to maintain its monopower and mono-world order