Which Is Better For Dolby Atmos, In Ceiling Or Another Method?
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Which is the better configuration for Atmos? What do you all use in your systems?
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I have recently upgraded to in ceiling (4). The sound is phenomenal especially thunder storms or jets flybys. I don’t know about elevation speakers but I am very happy with my choice.
I'm with Tecno-Dad. I have switched from front ceiling to fronts heights. BIG difference. I do have ceiling rears to maximise height, due to having a stage with seating. ** The challenge is getting the mid bass (60 -120hz) for your surrounds to sound consistent with the front stage. To achieve this I have a 10 inch sub in the middle of the room (built into the raised stage) just for the surrounds and Atmos. This solutions avoids the beefy to less beefy sound when objects move around the room. Adjusting the crossover of the surrounds makes a difference also, sometimes 80hz doesn't sound as good. Im crossing over at 100hz, allowing the sub to provide more impact.
I believe on-ceiling is the preference so you can get the right angles to the listeners as well as not have sound bleeding into the walls with in-ceiling's.
I run a 5.2.4 setup with front heights above my mains and surround heights on the sides facing the main seating area. Then a run surround backs as my two surround channels. The Auro 3d upmix sounds amazing.
I leave for five minutes and you guys are already fighting! Don’t make me pull this car over! 😂😂
One issue which is not being addressed by the "Home" market is the speaker dispersion pattern. Commercial Cinemas take this into account because of the stadium seating arrangement and having to cover a large area with sound.
The home market tends to use: 1. Not enough speakers 2. Speakers that are too small 3. Speakers that are underpowered 4. Speakers with a dispersion pattern that is very narrow.
There are so many theaters that have Top front height channels for Atmos/Auro/DTS:X but those speakers being used have a 4-inch woofer and the seats are like 10 feet or more from those top front speakers. And people wonder why their Atmos setup is not sounding good. They have to crank the top front channel trim levels to like +10 just to hear anything.
This makes so much sense now. I have 4 in ceiling speakers.
I could barely hear anything from them considering I’m sitting about 13ft away from the fronts & the calibration set the db’s to 1db.
I cranked the fronts to 10db and rears to 7db since I’m closer to them. I tested it & I can actually hear them now.
As of right now, they’re set to front heights and rear heights. Should I set them to “in ceiling” since they’re technically not on the walls? Idk if changing them will create a different experience or not.
I am not sure if your argument adds up.
Isn’t Atmos made to NOT be speaker location dependent?
Like, the sound is not mixed to specific channel, but the the sounds are mixed as “objects”. The location of the object is determined on the mix. Once it’s played back on an Atmos system, the sound is played with the right volume on the right speakers based on the Atmos objects and speaker placement.
EDIT: I got an 5.1.2 Atmos setup with two ceiling speakers slightly before my sitting position above me and planes that fly over sound very natural.
100% correct. Sealing speaker sound more aften and loud to when you switch In Denon software posotion from FH vs TopH
Exactly.... That's what the whole ATMOS programming is supposed to figure out!
How come no one ever discusses bipoles on the ceiling?? Seems like a solid idea...
Absolutely. Especially with lower ceilings.
Atmos is object based mix when it is done right. We have 3 spekaer layouts for Atmos not only one. With Front and Rear height speaker you can Auro3D and Dolby Atmos in one Speaker layout. When the Atmos mix is bad or silence at height area than you can switch to Auro-Matic which adjustable for 3D Sound affect.
Forget auros... on earth we use this formats: dolby atmos, DD ,DTS
@@georgiodavid read the papers and hear you can use all 3D Sound systems in one speaker Layout . Most times Auro 3D native is coded in DTSHD MA or flac . You have always the choice by pushing the Soundbuttons . 😉
@@stevewithf5847 bro i am just now testing, when 7.1.4 is selected as 4x sealing speakers playing atmos i get more action from speakers vs selected as front high and rear high.
What are good in-ceiling speakers? Should I go with off-axis speakers? There is very limited information, I've been trying to find the right speakers for weeks but still at square one.
Get in-ceiling speakers that complement the budget and performance of your surrounds. If you can get ones which are incased, thats a plus. When in-cased they can handle lower Hz, which give you more options where you cross over, assuming your surrounds offer the same capabilities.
I’m hesitant to install ceiling speakers
Well theaters don't have the atmos high on the walls
Techno Dad gets my vote on the heights.
Nah, you need heights, but ATMOS decoding will figure it all out for you, as long as you tell it where the speakers are. That being said, the decoding has to anticipate bouncing upfiring speakers down to get the effect and the reflection can colour the sound. Which is why I personally think ceilings, or at least high speakers, are important.
My friend has Klipsch in ceiling speakers that were professional installed. I couldn't tell the benefit of it. He had to cause of the wifey approval. He has the wrong wife🤣😏
AURO 3D ! 💯 💯 💯
🎉 Hoorays for height speakers 🎉
Channa is right