shadow imbuement explosions are separate and much more effective area-wise than the ones of barber and also less delayed as it explodes on death, and not after a certain timer like barber, so the 2 combined are very good. Attack- damage- explode- jump away- barber explodes- chain reaction- rinse and repeat. Shadow imbuement is good with barber. Also shadow imbuement can spread vulnerable if needed.
appreciate your commitment - from the sounds of it, you lead a normal life, not game 24/7. either way, i'm still using icy - love the chill / freeze effect, but will be switching to a poison build to take care of uber lili.. been using condemnation with asheara's, penitent, PLUS temerity, as now the "all stat" has been changed to +life and love it. lmk what you think. i work full time myself, so casually getting to uber lili and t100 - it's a bit of a grind. thank you for the builds!!! cheers mate!
Was thinking of going temerity for flurry, and get lucky hit chance with Barrier on helm and where ever else I can get it, I did a tiny bit of testing with temerity but didn't have the hp sustain in order to have that barrier up, but I'll get to more testing this weekend!
You’re one of the few creators who use T90+ to showcase their builds. Basically all of them will say the build works in T90-100 and it’s true. It’s still nice to SEE it working though lol
It feels really weird to make a build for high tiers and then show case it in like 50s, it's like taking a lambo and only driving it at 30 mph, doesn't really show you how it performs😂
I run a similar build but cold/shadow imbuements. I am not sure about the use of condemnetion as a weapon unless you have a combo points specialization based build because the 30% chance to generate points and get one high hit of twisting doesnt really justify it compared to what specs you can get on other weapons. However the Khanjar attack speed once you started to chain attacks stays up and is a massive gain because as you know we cant really stand static fights, we need to hit, infect and jump away and create chain reactions so we need all the attack speed we can possibly have. Also I tested a lot, and I found trhat as a second melee weapon is better to have a sword instead than a dagger because overall you need big hits and high speed to deliver them and a sword with proper attributes will deliver much bigger hits for a minimal decrease in attack speed, pluis you get critical damage which is more interesting than close enemies damage. AAlso im not too keen (but thats me) on tricks of the trade, because ideally you need a click of basic every click of core to get constant benefit and i mostly use core , basic very rarely , maybe to spread extra vulnerable, but rarely.
So I am using combo points in this build, condemnation is mainly because of the 40% damage multiplier on max stacks of combo points, and because we're using combo points tricks of the trade is the best legendary node we can pick up for this build. Replacing condemnation with a sword felt a lot worse to me, didn't feel like more damage and a lot less attack speed. And in the gameplay you can see I'm constantly alternating between puncture and TB.
Dude you’re build is carrying me hardcore but one question why do you have a legendary crossbow if none of our skills are marksman skills you just earned a sub
Appreciate the sub🙏 and the crossbow has Vulnerable damage on it, vs a bow having damage to distant. That's really the only reason to go crossbow instead of a bow for melee builds.
Since you have all the buffs to crowd control damage from glyphs/nodes wouldn't the improved twisting blades work better because then advanced because it applies crowd control to every group? I'm just confused how you're applying crowd control every fight without improved twisting blades. Is it because of the boots aoe slowing/chilling groups?
Unless i'm mistaking, 2 nodes are skipped in the no witnesses board witch makes us 2 paragon points for the cheap shot rare nodes, where would you remove the 2 points to get both rare and not loose too much dmg and reduction ? :) BTW thanks alot for this guide to help us push higher tier ! Similar to what I used but more efficient way of spending points ! :)
Was looking for another TB build other than the usual Swords/Conceal/ ect. Rogue felt a bit lacking at 95+ NM and found this. I had just got both the daggers and tried this out. This Build really feels good. Took a bit to get used to using Combo points over Inner-sight. I personally kept BladeDancers on my Xbow for aoe. Question... Would you 100% put Vigor on amulet? I have it on my Helm atm and Disobedience on Amulet for extra armor.
You can go either way with stolen vigor and Disobedience on amulet, depending on how much hp you have might not even need stolen vigor as it may not feel super good if you have like 18-20k life
@@dashanzo Got it. I'm missing some perfect rings with life on it, so maybe i'll swap out. Cant say enough how good this build feels. Did you swap to cold imbue? I saw a comment about it.
Isn't it will be better to use that dark shroud aspect from basic skills instead of the Expectant aspect, in that case u don't need to put points into DS skill and bind it to anything, unless u want that 14% to not to consume DS on hit. Also Edgemaster is kinda meh IMO, why u need that much dmg, all of the mobs die instantly already (u can use smoke grenade instead, ruse it instead of DS). Quickening fog aspect is a must i believe
I tried playing with umbrous but it didn't feel very good without stacking lucky hit chance, also my gear isn't completely min maxed so it might be better later on. But yeah can def swap expectant out with quickening fog. As for edge masters, elites have like 20m+ hp and having big packs of them can be a pain without the damage
You mean umbrous aspect, but umbrous activates with marksman skills and twisting blades is not.Trying to get crits with basic skills to get the shrouds is not a good idea. Ah, edgemaster is a must, not all mobs die instantly, not at all lol
@@XimoXThe idk in my case all the mobs dies instantly ) ur using basic skill anyways and it crits a lot, u should have around 40% crt rate at this point. i dont use umbrous tho, dont see a point in tier 100, just completed it once for achievement and thats it, just running tiers 75-90, and even that is useless )
In regard to Barber heart, which one u r using and suggest to use ? I have 4.0 sec now and it looks extremely good, crit are over milions sometimes. Anyway I have 2.6 sec, and I'm wondering how it will perform. I'm 95 now 👍
So overall 4.0 seems to be better as with trash mobs once you do enough damage they explode so the time doesn't affect them, and against bosses it multiples the stored damage more so it's more boss dps :)
2 to 3 for fast farm and NDs for vulnerability and because we need to deliver the max possible damage in the shortest time when we jump from a group to another, for bosses would be better higher timer i guess.
The reason why you should go for crossbow is because of the vulnerable damage that every crossbow has, the bows damage to distant doesn't help very much and with puncture and TB both attacks are with the daggers so we never actually use our crossbow.
Yepp the crossbow is just a stat stick, if you are wanting to try out a bow build my penshot build is pretty fun, can def use eaglehorn unique bow with it or a bow if you prefer bows :)
With the same/better survivability??👀 Share ya secrets haha. I could get that damage but then would insta die in t90s so gave up so much damage to be able to survive
Yeah ngl can't play for too long or else I just get super burnt out, gonna swap to pvp and see if that gets me hooked again. But yeah, there's like nothing to do after lvl 100 so I feel you on that
No trading? No items worth any value...game is still dog shit...I could play a season get to 100 have dam near all pef bis gear and still delete my char after..why..becasue nothing u do matters in d4..might as well be playing fuckn skyrim
Tbh I agree with you 100%. I do love the game and have high hopes for it but it has a ways to go. The only reason why I have so much time in the game is strictly because I enjoyed making builds, although I got burnt out of the game because there's only so much dungeons I can rerun without loosing my mind. Sad that we aren't getting leaderboards next season, I can't wait until there's a competitive touch to the game to actually give me a reason to play all season.
@dashanzo try summoner war chronicles or albion online..both mobile games but I'm telling you they are fuckn great...not into mobile me either...there still great lol... always path of exile
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At 1:59 Barber considered as shadow dmg u don't need shadow imupment
Oh I was unaware, I knew it was not physical but didn't look at exactly what element it was, then I guess going into cold imbue would be better
shadow imbuement explosions are separate and much more effective area-wise than the ones of barber and also less delayed as it explodes on death, and not after a certain timer like barber, so the 2 combined are very good. Attack- damage- explode- jump away- barber explodes- chain reaction- rinse and repeat. Shadow imbuement is good with barber. Also shadow imbuement can spread vulnerable if needed.
@@dashanzocold imbue yes. Get 12 ranks and run penitent greaves and FF and you can prob crit consistently for 20-50M
if u want more DR via armor, put Aspect of Disobedience on amulet for the 50%buff.
Dope Update to this build. Mine was good but I’m Definitely switching to this one sine I just got both Unique Daggers dropped yesterday.
Nice update, brother! Looking forward to your next live.
Planning on streaming tonight, gonna sleep and then see which build to do next!
I thought I noticed a difference the way the build was hitting last night. Dam so no more icy shadow back to twisted blade all out ssshh. 😢
Yeah it's sad :( but don't worry I'll figure out some super fun/strong builds for you guys!
appreciate your commitment - from the sounds of it, you lead a normal life, not game 24/7. either way, i'm still using icy - love the chill / freeze effect, but will be switching to a poison build to take care of uber lili.. been using condemnation with asheara's, penitent, PLUS temerity, as now the "all stat" has been changed to +life and love it. lmk what you think. i work full time myself, so casually getting to uber lili and t100 - it's a bit of a grind. thank you for the builds!!! cheers mate!
Was thinking of going temerity for flurry, and get lucky hit chance with Barrier on helm and where ever else I can get it, I did a tiny bit of testing with temerity but didn't have the hp sustain in order to have that barrier up, but I'll get to more testing this weekend!
You’re one of the few creators who use T90+ to showcase their builds.
Basically all of them will say the build works in T90-100 and it’s true.
It’s still nice to SEE it working though lol
It feels really weird to make a build for high tiers and then show case it in like 50s, it's like taking a lambo and only driving it at 30 mph, doesn't really show you how it performs😂
So momentum and no vigor? Or run vigor and lethal dusk?
@@dashanzowhere lambo?
Momentum as mastery passive and stolen vigor on the necklace.
No lambo :(
I run a similar build but cold/shadow imbuements. I am not sure about the use of condemnetion as a weapon unless you have a combo points specialization based build because the 30% chance to generate points and get one high hit of twisting doesnt really justify it compared to what specs you can get on other weapons. However the Khanjar attack speed once you started to chain attacks stays up and is a massive gain because as you know we cant really stand static fights, we need to hit, infect and jump away and create chain reactions so we need all the attack speed we can possibly have. Also I tested a lot, and I found trhat as a second melee weapon is better to have a sword instead than a dagger because overall you need big hits and high speed to deliver them and a sword with proper attributes will deliver much bigger hits for a minimal decrease in attack speed, pluis you get critical damage which is more interesting than close enemies damage. AAlso im not too keen (but thats me) on tricks of the trade, because ideally you need a click of basic every click of core to get constant benefit and i mostly use core , basic very rarely , maybe to spread extra vulnerable, but rarely.
So I am using combo points in this build, condemnation is mainly because of the 40% damage multiplier on max stacks of combo points, and because we're using combo points tricks of the trade is the best legendary node we can pick up for this build. Replacing condemnation with a sword felt a lot worse to me, didn't feel like more damage and a lot less attack speed. And in the gameplay you can see I'm constantly alternating between puncture and TB.
Use combo points but not condemnation. I use ashearas plus legendary
Dude you’re build is carrying me hardcore but one question why do you have a legendary crossbow if none of our skills are marksman skills you just earned a sub
Appreciate the sub🙏 and the crossbow has Vulnerable damage on it, vs a bow having damage to distant. That's really the only reason to go crossbow instead of a bow for melee builds.
Since you have all the buffs to crowd control damage from glyphs/nodes wouldn't the improved twisting blades work better because then advanced because it applies crowd control to every group? I'm just confused how you're applying crowd control every fight without improved twisting blades. Is it because of the boots aoe slowing/chilling groups?
Yeah Penitent Greaves apply chill which gives you the crowd control bonuses
Unless i'm mistaking, 2 nodes are skipped in the no witnesses board witch makes us 2 paragon points for the cheap shot rare nodes, where would you remove the 2 points to get both rare and not loose too much dmg and reduction ? :)
BTW thanks alot for this guide to help us push higher tier ! Similar to what I used but more efficient way of spending points ! :)
Hey good catch I just fixed it in the boards in the d4 link! Sometimes a few points slip past me in the boards so that's my bad haha
Awesome thanks !!
@@dashanzoYeah, there’s a lot going on on those boards so it’s understandable some things will get missed 👍🏽
Was looking for another TB build other than the usual Swords/Conceal/ ect. Rogue felt a bit lacking at 95+ NM and found this. I had just got both the daggers and tried this out. This Build really feels good. Took a bit to get used to using Combo points over Inner-sight. I personally kept BladeDancers on my Xbow for aoe. Question... Would you 100% put Vigor on amulet? I have it on my Helm atm and Disobedience on Amulet for extra armor.
You can go either way with stolen vigor and Disobedience on amulet, depending on how much hp you have might not even need stolen vigor as it may not feel super good if you have like 18-20k life
@@dashanzo Got it. I'm missing some perfect rings with life on it, so maybe i'll swap out. Cant say enough how good this build feels. Did you swap to cold imbue? I saw a comment about it.
I haven't tested it, haven't really been on the past few days😅 and I'm happy you're enjoying the build!
Does aspect of corruption/potency do anything for shadow imbuement?
It increases the death explode damage/ expiration damage, not sure if it does anything other than that to shadow imbue
Isn't it will be better to use that dark shroud aspect from basic skills instead of the Expectant aspect, in that case u don't need to put points into DS skill and bind it to anything, unless u want that 14% to not to consume DS on hit. Also Edgemaster is kinda meh IMO, why u need that much dmg, all of the mobs die instantly already (u can use smoke grenade instead, ruse it instead of DS). Quickening fog aspect is a must i believe
I tried playing with umbrous but it didn't feel very good without stacking lucky hit chance, also my gear isn't completely min maxed so it might be better later on. But yeah can def swap expectant out with quickening fog. As for edge masters, elites have like 20m+ hp and having big packs of them can be a pain without the damage
@@dashanzo with barber they just explode )
After the 2-4 seconds yeah they do, but it doesn't always 1 shot. Still have to stack the damage up on them.
You mean umbrous aspect, but umbrous activates with marksman skills and twisting blades is not.Trying to get crits with basic skills to get the shrouds is not a good idea. Ah, edgemaster is a must, not all mobs die instantly, not at all lol
@@XimoXThe idk in my case all the mobs dies instantly ) ur using basic skill anyways and it crits a lot, u should have around 40% crt rate at this point. i dont use umbrous tho, dont see a point in tier 100, just completed it once for achievement and thats it, just running tiers 75-90, and even that is useless )
ty so much ty ty ty
How many seconds would an ideal barber be for this build?
The seconds on barber doesn't really matter, as it explodes as soon as you do enough damage to kill, but for bosses 4 seconds is better.
In regard to Barber heart, which one u r using and suggest to use ? I have 4.0 sec now and it looks extremely good, crit are over milions sometimes. Anyway I have 2.6 sec, and I'm wondering how it will perform. I'm 95 now 👍
So overall 4.0 seems to be better as with trash mobs once you do enough damage they explode so the time doesn't affect them, and against bosses it multiples the stored damage more so it's more boss dps :)
u have to use 2 or 3 secs, i forget why )
@@Ser_VDExploit and 3 Seconds Vulnerability is why. For bosses 4 Sec Barber is best anything under 3 is best for mobs
2 to 3 for fast farm and NDs for vulnerability and because we need to deliver the max possible damage in the shortest time when we jump from a group to another, for bosses would be better higher timer i guess.
@@XimoXThe poison rogue is better for bosses )
Just started to make this build can I use a bow instead of crossbow just asking
The reason why you should go for crossbow is because of the vulnerable damage that every crossbow has, the bows damage to distant doesn't help very much and with puncture and TB both attacks are with the daggers so we never actually use our crossbow.
@@dashanzo oh okay
Yepp the crossbow is just a stat stick, if you are wanting to try out a bow build my penshot build is pretty fun, can def use eaglehorn unique bow with it or a bow if you prefer bows :)
No bladexdancers aspect?
It's on one of my rings :)
Got the same build but doing max 1,000,000 in eternal, not in saison..
I’m doing it!!!
Not bad but my rogue with barber was critting for 50M lol
With the same/better survivability??👀 Share ya secrets haha. I could get that damage but then would insta die in t90s so gave up so much damage to be able to survive
dang still playing. I totally lost interest 2 weeks ago.
Yeah ngl can't play for too long or else I just get super burnt out, gonna swap to pvp and see if that gets me hooked again. But yeah, there's like nothing to do after lvl 100 so I feel you on that
My EXACT build 👌 It's nearly impossible to die, and IF YOU DO, it's 100% your own damn fault. So much fun
No trading? No items worth any value...game is still dog shit...I could play a season get to 100 have dam near all pef bis gear and still delete my char after..why..becasue nothing u do matters in d4..might as well be playing fuckn skyrim
Tbh I agree with you 100%. I do love the game and have high hopes for it but it has a ways to go. The only reason why I have so much time in the game is strictly because I enjoyed making builds, although I got burnt out of the game because there's only so much dungeons I can rerun without loosing my mind. Sad that we aren't getting leaderboards next season, I can't wait until there's a competitive touch to the game to actually give me a reason to play all season.
@dashanzo try summoner war chronicles or albion online..both mobile games but I'm telling you they are fuckn great...not into mobile me either...there still great lol... always path of exile