Jordan Peterson Doesn't Understand Evolutionary Psychology
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- Опубликовано: 2 авг 2024
- This video offers a critique of Peterson's viewpoints and his misrepresentations of evolutionary psychology which he uses to justify his hierarchical and traditionalist perspectives for the satisfaction of his audiences. Additionally, I provide a brief explanation of the basic concepts that form the basis of evolutionary psychology. This background information will equip viewers with a foundational understanding of the fascinating field of evolutionary psychology.
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0:00 - Intro
1:27 - Part I: Human Behavior & Evolution
2:46 - Limitations & Misuse
4:44 - What We Know
5:44 - The Mismatch Hypothesis
6:36 - Risky Behaviors
7:07 - Social Comparison
8:38 - Part II: Misrepresentation, Reductionism, & Bias
10:28 - Peterson & the Gender-Equality Paradox
15:27 - Peterson & What Women Desire
17:10 - Peterson & Hierarchy
20:29 - Coda 
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Nice to find you on twitter. Your channel rocks my world. I wish I had gobs of money to throw at you
Its wonderful letting the tail wag the dog
But we cant go on much longer in the delusion that the lower brain does not matter and does nothing at all
I mean 4000 yrs trapped in the left PFC is enough slavery i Feel
But you will understand nothing at all, if you do not break the delusion that your Left PFC is all that matters
You listed the sources Disagreeing with Petterson . But nothing in objective data contradicting him
the difference between sex and Gender are made up. If we could decide what roles we have it contradicts you
Evolutionary psychologist don't look at past of years
His voice sounds exactly like Saul Goodman to me
Or Kermit the Frog
@Derek Futrell Sounding like Saul Goodman is a tell-tale sign of a fraud. Thank you, I was asking myself: what do I hear in this voice which is dishonest or unintegrated...
@@L_Train😂😂😂
14:05 "Twenty-seven male and 40 female subjects aged between 14 and 16 years old were assessed for difference in mood response (...)" Wow, yeah, that's some solid research right there!
Solid research? Tell me, did you get jabbed?
Tell me, did covid eat your brain? @@ReneeWright69
Wow the comment are a shitshow, ppl really cannot handle having the person they worship being criticized. Thanks for the video man
Haven't seen this much action on the channel in years!
I'll never understand thinking anything about jordie is in any way good, lol, much less the worshipping
These dudes are locked in a sunk-cost-fallacy. They know they fell prey to the goddamn vaccum pipeline of “Clean Your Room” to “People who are different are trying to take rights that were never yours in the first place” but it’s easier to fight for your fave than face your shame, crumble your ego with your bare hands and ADMIT you were a lonely, frustrated, mentally ill individual who thought a manipulative conman in a pressed suit could help you.
I think you confuse different opinins with hero worship. When you resort to petty insults, you clearly show you're too immature to discuss anything beyond an anime cartoon.
This reminds me of a chiropractor on RUclips who continues to posts videos giving advice on internal medicine, skin care, eye health, mental health, etc as if he were an actual MD/PhD. People think if someone is called “doctor” they know everything (like the Professor on Gilligan’s Island) and it just isn’t true. Chiropractors need to stick to their field of expertise just as JP does. It’s a scary world out there.
Chiropracty isn't medicine at all. A chiropractor isn't a doctor at all.
Great video, I’m glad you’re back! You’re one of my favorite creators. I’m leaving this comment for the algorithm! (And as a reminder to come back with a more thoughtful comment lol)
Good video. But I think that you have created some sort of a straw man to state that JP does not understand evolutionary psychology. I have followed JP for a few years now I don't recognize the person that you describe. I'm not saying he is correct explaining hierarchical systems. Just saying that he does not give the plain explanations based on evolutionary biology that you say he does.
you're right, he almost never uses evolutionary biology. he DOES use evolutionary PSYCHOLOGY a lot, though. you know, the topic of this video? ;)
@@megax5000 you do know Peterson has published a very high number of papers for peer review? He’s very accomplished in his field.
skip to 11:40 for the first actual critique of Jordan Peterson
I'm good watching the whole video. It's not long and I don't know much about evolutionary psychology. It's good to learn
The word "generous" doesn't necessarily mean kind it means "marked with abundance" in the context JBP is using it.
08:49 is when the ass kicking begins🤣
While I really like this as an introduction into Peterson as a complex ideologue, I really wanted you to go much further into why his messages and teachings are sus, or even just his self contradictions. Love your content a lot, genuinely, maybe longer form video would be good?
I agree. I could watch an hour or two of this.
Do you publish in the area of evolutionary psychology? If not, your commentary here is also "outside your areas of expertise". Your having "ventured into the realm of evolutionary psychology" to counter Peterson would seem to put you in the same position as him. You would in all likelihood lack the nuanced understanding necessary to actually refute him. You should find a researcher to judge Peterson's positions, keeping in mind that his statements may sometimes be trying to note how things are, while not necessarily proclaiming that they should be that way. Claiming that things are a certain way and they won't ever change is not the same as endorsing them.
Well said. Exactly what I got from this video. I think the author is on a right track so to speak however it seems he contradicts himself by basically doing to Peterson what he claims Peterson is doing with evolutionary psychology. It felt more like a personal opinion about straw man statements Peterson makes and misinterpretation of Petersons actual meaning behind his words. But until the author can ask Peterson directly. We will never know. Interesting opinion however.
Yes, I conduct research in the field of evolutionary psychology, specifically concentrating on risk-taking behaviors.
@@Inhumanform Would you mind linking to some of your pubs?
@@Inhumanform so you’re aware of the psychological concept of projection, then? Maybe you could look into the concept of self awareness, too.
Oh dear, unfortunately I fell asleep while watching this video (excellent work btw) however RUclips began automatically recommending and playing ACTUAL Jordan Peterson videos, the algorithm is about to take my account and flood it with this man’s utter nonsense! Urghhh,
Sorry!
Ugh so did I! Luckily though I didn't have autoplay on so I was spared more Peterson. The last thing you want his that man speaking to you while yhile you're dreaming.
@@L_Train🤣🤣🤣
yeah i get that as well :(
I agree, Peterson must sound crazy to a midwit.
The way he talks, even though he is spouting nonsense, sounds confident so I can see how he fools people.
"The environment is everything"
~ JBP, professor of everything
As a medical professional, an intellectual, and as a father, I thank you for your thorough & objective critique on Peterson. The man is just another toxic grifter.
I hope your kids are trans freaks☠️
You clearly haven't read his work. The guy has helped a lot of people and is clearly a very intelligent man.
@@jamieholland3853 Maybe we should separate his somewhat useful self help advice, as blunt and obvious as it is for most people, from his really weird philosophical teachings. The latter being based on misunderstood and sometimes plain wrong "knowledge" of history.
Wes Cecil has a video about Peterson that's worth watching
Self proclaimed intellectuals usually are not😂😂😂
Can someone please explain Peterson's statement that women who don't want children are "not particularly compassionate"?
@@Silkeaux Yeah, that's what I was thinking... but I'm still genuinely curious how someone who agrees with Peterson would explain this.
@@Rettequetette This refers to them not scoring very high on the agreeableness dimension on the big five personality test.
Ok... now I have even more questions. Let's start with: source? @@bobbyboljaar7513
great video! glad someone decided to tackle peterson and his constant need to reference evolutionary psychology to justify his own ideology
I wash myself with a rag on a stick
Fwiw re: petersons apparently naive opinion of the nature of hierarchical dominance...(magnanimity+charisma=success vs the truthier machiavellianism+sociopathy....his work in psychotherapy was mainly consulting moderately-to-very successful entrepreneurs to improve their performance. The cut throat narcissists were, and arguably still are, his vread and butter. He clearly learned a lot from them
is his voice pitched down at 11:00 ? anyways, most people who disliked this video are on the other "team". they can't tell the difference between this video and someone who hates JBP just because he's a straight white male. peterson's obviously an intelligent guy, and charismatic in his own way. but how can you deny he talks out of his ass sometimes, and has some con-man-like traits.
people understand that they themselves are complex and varied, but refuse to recognise that the same is true of other people as well. the way identity is represented on internet/social media has SERIOUSLY messed with the way we perceive other peoples and groups. media literacy isn't considered an important subject in schools or elsewhere, and that's a really bad thing. (people should study marshal mcluhan's prescient ideas about media environments.)
and im not saying the people who disliked this (or liked it) are one dimensional, rather that most of them see people on the other "team" in that way.
My blue collar brain is gonna have to watch this a couple times to follow. lol
You could make a whole series. JP doesnt understand x,y,z... nearly endless content
Didn't Jordy Petermans once make the claim that he's an evolutionary biologist, which is of course a lie?
Evolutionary psychology deals with ultimate reasoning (what are the fitness benefits) not like other psy fields like cognitive psychology who deals with what mechanisms work etc…
A good portion of evolutionary psychology research focuses on understanding why and how certain mechanisms and subdomains evolved the way they did.
More!
His quote about the environment drives me insane! "The environment" is too abstract to be valid for him? HE'S A FUCKING SOCIAL SCIENTIST. Psychology is a science that takes abstractions, like depression, and gives them operationalized definitions which then makes them measurable. How tf is he a doctorate in psychology?! Did he skip his intro courses? If "the environment" isn't valid to him, how is anything in the psychological sciences valid to him?
He deliberately acts like he doesn't understand because it pays well. He is quite intelligent.
@@InhumanformWhat a waste of intelligence. Greed is a real problem
He is disingenuous AF
The problem is, most of these quotes if not all are taken way out of context. He is talking about teenagers saying they're worried about the environment, which is essentially everything. He then goes on to say maybe you should worry about your own shit instead of pretending to understand or be able to influence something as complex as the entire environment, when you still live with your parents, which is a perfectly solid argument.
He then goes on to say that once you are competent enough and have sorted out your own life, you can then broaden your scope into bigger things (this is advice for people who are depressed and worried about things they cannot control.)
@@jamieholland3853why can’t they do both? I mean if a depressed individual cares about anything it is a good starting point. Besides, Jordan Peterson didn’t clean his own room before going out to “fix” the world during a benzo addition.
Part is the problem is that he speaks so generally that you are left wondering what he is actually saying. He then accuses people of misinterpreting him when they naturally join the dots. It’s an evasive way of communicating so he doesn’t have to explicitly make ridiculous arguments that could be refuted.
We'd be better off starting with the question, "What does jordan peterson understand (if anything)?"
That being said, I am grateful for your well done critique of the man's constant sewage leak of pseudo-intellectual bullsh**.
He has authored over 90 Peer Review papers which have garnered over 18,000 citations.
Awesome job my guy! Loved this through and through.
I genuinely think JP is a narcissist and he's projecting his philosophy onto everyone else
You mean like BLM and the Alphabet Coalition?
@@ReneeWright69literally no one brought that up besides you.
16:33 they are also ten times more likely to kill themselves now
Solid vid dude, sorry about the weirdos it brings.
Excellent channel.
Fairly weak criticism, more like nit-picking. When I heard the "non-binary" statement, I realized where this was coming from.
really great video!
While I do not agree with you, especially in your gender/sex spectrum ideas, I think this video has merit.
I didn’t like him when everyone was talking about how great he was. I figured it was just me. Glad to know it wasn’t and that my instincts were right.
Always happy to see a new video. Thank you for your work
everything human‘s have build/invented was first just a thought in a brain. every religion, every law, every rule and so on. the only thing everyone can agree on is the science of nature/universe. every other „sience“ related to things we created/invented is just an individual view/opinion. therefore there is never going to be a right or wrong. the only thing we can do about it is to just let everyone do the fu** they want. as long as nobody else gets hurt, it’s ok. just let the gays be gay, trans be trans, woman work, men looking after children. people like peterson do only divide people. like politician (left/right). in his case emanzipation vs. conservstism. and you people fight while he fills his bankaccount.
If the vehement defenders of JBP show us any thing, it is that at the very least, the prolix doctor has been a very Sharp propagandist of his Brand.
brilliant video, you re probably my favorite American🙂
Sorry, but you refuted his claims about women wanting children with a study that only asks SINGLE women what they prioritize. I agree JBP is wrong about many things, but this video uses bad refutations, dishonest strawman arguments and general misunderstanding of what the other is trying to say. Hard to believe you are a scientist.
Your opening statements reinforced my belief that you are under age 30, and your lack of life experience disqualifies you via lack of the wisdom of age.
👍👍👍
Great video!
"Jordan Peterson doesn't understand" is already a true statement… 🙈
Hard disagree. He understands _a lot._ ...And deliberately chooses to misrepresent those things for profit and clout.
You pull all of the shortcuts in framing him as you claim he pulls in representing the field.
He is addicted to those over-stuffed ego pills and feels himself to be quite the dandy.
i am personally of the opinion Jordan Peterson is greatly responsible for so much of the bigotry we see today. this man certainly led many youth down a foul path, but also led even my once progressive grandfather down a path of reactionary beliefs and bigotry. my grandfather used to be a Marxist, he taught jazz history at the University of Montreal, and he was truly an incredibly open man, but due to Peterson's teachings he began down a rabbit hole and was radicalised into an alt-right direction by 2017. it's difficult that had I come out to him before he became invested in Peterson's work, he would probably accept me to this day, but because of what all he has come to believe he is just awfully conservative
Yeah cause Marxists are great people... Read a history book
@@jamieholland3853 please enlighten me on why believing in Marxist pricipals is bad without using fake statistics
As a one time evolutionary psychologist who has some use for some of its implications, I find Peterson refreshingly stupid.
or more accurately you don't understand evolutionary psychology.
Yep, though that still never prevents the popular 'influencers' like Peterson, Ben Shapiro, Dinesh D'Souza, and many others, especially of the more 'reactionary' stripe... from employing the trick of carefully 'curating', aka _cherry-picking_ their data and 'facts', while always speaking so 'forcefully' as to suppress any arguments. Otherwise known as "Baffle 'Em With Bullsh*t"!
I’m much more of a fan of yours than Petersons. But you seem largely confused by what he’s trying to argue, and not altogether clear in what you’re trying to argue either.
You’re doing the same thing you’re accusing him of doing. You’re taking his argument and stripping it of all implied or contextual nuance and then saying, see his argument is overly simplistic. There are interesting and effective rebuttals of what Peterson actually believes, but none of them are in this video.
RUclips is deleting my comments, it appears. Is it because of the word Twitter?
If youtube had a trash can, it's here, this channel.
I hold a different perspective from yours. In today's dating scene, it seems that women are attracted to men who outperform them. Contrary to your viewpoint, I believe that many women prioritize their careers over starting a family. If you were to ask women about the ideal age for marriage, most women might mention their late 20s or early 30s. However, it's worth noting that many might lack awareness regarding their peak fertility age. Similarly, if you were to ask women about the cost and effectiveness of in vitro fertilization, most of them would have no clue, and you think that most women are truly cautious and deliberate about their decision to not have children? LMAO
“Me-too JCS-lookalike true crime RUclipsr reviews the lifetime work of a clinical psychologist” 👍
Ooof, did he strike a nerve or 2?🤣
@@Ryuk-IsLife no he simply disagrees. Did he strike a nerve or two of yours?
@@Ryuk-IsLife it’s ironic that someone with an interested in psychology would produce such a perfect example of projection.
RUclips is deleting my comments, it appears. Is it because of the phrase What is a Woman?
Looks like you're being willfully blind to sex differences driving occupational choice and instead dismissing it all as propaganda without any evidence supporting it. I'd encourage you to read the article on science direct called: "Sex differences and occupational choice Theorizing for policy informed by behavioral science" by Charlotta Stern and Guy Madison.
So what, he understands very little.
No big fan of Dr. Peterson, but painting him as narrow minded and uninformed is clearly a personal bias based on outdated info. A) Peterson talks about stuff he is not credentialed to talk about, yet now has a successful podcast of him talking with subject matter experts for his audience's benefit. B) Peterson believes we are trapped in our biology, then shows clip of Peterson easily agreeing with the impact of cultural influences on our behavior. No need to watch further than that. Try again, sam.
Jordan Peterson doesn't understand quite a lot.
Oh my dude... When Peterson is speaking about heirarchies, he's explaining the phenomenon as an "is", not an "ought", meaning that it's just what happens - not how he wants it to be. You pointing out Besos, Gates and Musk is an example of the pareto principle which is a natural phenomenon... If you put in an honest effort here, I think you would have come across him explaining paretos. You should really put in a solid attempt to first understand POVs you disagree with so you can properly critique them rather than poll your subs to see how they feel about a figure before trying to appease the majority with a weak attempt.
Thanks for your thoughtful response. I always enjoy reading your comments because I feel you make excellent points that challenge my reasoning.
Regarding the use of Bezos, Gates, and Musk as examples, I aimed to illustrate extreme concentrations of wealth and power within our current societal structures. As for Peterson, he supports Musk, oil corporations, and patriarchal social structures (mentioned in the Skavlan interview). This information can help you determine whether he is merely commenting on what "is" or endorsing the status quo. He frequently advocates for capitalist systems in interviews, but I assume you are already familiar with this.
However, I do disagree with your statement on the Pareto principle being a natural phenomenon in economics, as there is plenty of literature suggesting otherwise. It's crucial to understand that societies can mitigate these effects, as resource distribution is a result of human-made systems and policies. If the effects of the Pareto Principle are undesirable, we have both the ability and democratic duty to change these outcomes.
@@InhumanformThanks for the response. Can you estimate how much time you spent listening to Peterson's material? I have listened to numerous lectures of his over years and am confident you are misrepresenting his views. He has clearly indicated (in several lectures/interviews) he doesn't "like" capitalism, but feels it's the best option we have found thus far because artificially manipulating things to achieve a certain outcome has proven to do more harm than good, citing multiple examples throughout history of why things like communism, socialism, totalitarianism, fascism has garnered death tolls in the millions - all the result of someone who thinks they know how to "solve" something artificially rather than letting things fall out naturally.
The Pareto principle actually occurs in nature itself, it's not just an economic principle, whether you disagree or not. Your own comments about it here seem to indicate that it's real but should be manipulated? 🤷♀️
Again, misrepresenting arguments you haven't taken the time to fully understand is disingenuous. You should understand them first, then disprove - if you can. Just like Peterson says - when you have a theory about something, you should look for ways to dismantle & break it, not rely on the comforts of confirmation bias.... That said, I feel he's a tough one to critique - if one is not misrepresenting his arguments. Still, I was hoping you had something real to share here.
I think this distorts Peterson a bit: he doesn't argue that observation equates to endorsement. It does suggest that there are things that we may not have as much control over as we imagine. Your example of his views on gender are a case in point: you project onto him the imagined intention that he approves of gender hierarchies, when in fact he is just observing that they exist.
He observes that they exist, and then argues that what exists is unchangeable (thus endorsing the existing hierarchies).
@@kindnessasgreatasthesea1158 Where does he argue that what exists is entirely unchangeable?
His point is that it is changeable to some extent, but not entirely.
His argument, based on this reality is that it is neither possible nor desirable to pursue the eradication of all hierarchy.
His case about gender is particularly salient and obvious: to the extent that there are biological differences between sexes, then we can only achieve equality of outcome of the sexes by preventing people from doing what they want with their lives in order to fulfil some preconceived notion of what the sexes ought to be doing with themselves.
Regardless of your name, you are certainly not an Idiot
Jordan Peterson is the closest thing to a father I've ever had.
I'm sorry for you. May you find some better replacements!
These people don't like his message, which is to work hard and take responsibility. Don't worry about it bro
@@jamieholland3853 People have way less problems with his self help advice than with his weird philosophy shenanigans.
I'm so sorry your real father wasn't there for you.
Let me guess, you're left-leaning, right?
mmmmh im not so convinced- I know that all of this is very complicated and yes Peterson is absolutely oversimplifying a lot....but im 35 now and what I learned from debating gender is that I prefer an oversimplified solid answer- that is one at least -with exceptions to that rule then no answer at all by saying everything can be everything-so everything is nothing at all in the end? I will always respect a human being for its pure existence- but I will never say a woman can be or shud be everything and call this freedom. women are nothing -or a feeling- or dresses-or just birthing machines at best? I feel freedom in being, having maybe unfitting rules to break and some to follow-better than anarchy - and its ideologised image that misfits want average ppl to see right now. one human can't analyze its human self- one can't and a species can't understand itself as a group in all of evolutionary details-but we can look back and see what worked and didn't worked out for us-to burn everything down is the wish of a delusional small portion of humanity-we shud not listen to them- they prefer nonexistence and confusion and are building freedom on taking other ppl freedom away. critically seen u are not wrong about what ur points are-but u just proofed that Peterson or his viewpoints cud be wrong so the other side must be right somehow. I just can't believe that anymore-rant over lol-greetings from berlin.
If ever there was a proverbial face to pseudoscience, it would be "evolutionary psychology".
I take everything with a grain of salt, but how is men holding a position of authority an outdated thing, I thought authority is to some extent a men thing, time hase changed I guess, I live in the country side so. Good to see you again friend you rock.
Terrible video, really.
I totally agree that JP's ideas are criticizable, but you did this so poorly, with terrible sources, oversimplifications, and straw man fallacies. Do better!
I'll give a listen, but I'm prepared for some inherent logical fallacies in the argument.
Thank you for listening.
Bro with all these strawmen you could start a hay selling business. And I don't even particularly like Peterson due to his god bullshit
Traditional gender roles are not ideological, they're just logical.
Even though you're being just as disengenuous as Peterson, try not to waste our time in explaining the logic behind beating your son because he wore a pink dress. The logic behind enforcing hijabs or banning pants on women. The logic behind not letting women have bank accounts or driver's licenses
@@Anactualfungus My point is that "ideology" is a word with a definition, and that definition is not "what everyone has agreed about for all of history". An ideology comes with a strong delusion, such as one refusing to acknowledge the horror of allowing children to castrate themselves. Jordan Peterson is popular because he's saying what most people are thinking; people, that is, who are not ideologically bound to say nonsense instead.
@joachim847 your point is that you have an ideology and youre too ashamed to admit it, so youre taking it for granted using the naturalistic/popularity fallacies. Traditional gender roles obviously are not static across cultures or time, they are products of material conditions and, say it with me, ideology.
@joachim847 Trans children aren't getting castrated. You convincing yourself that you don't have an ideology has just made you more susceptible to propaganda that reinforces your biases.
@@Anactualfungus Go watch that documentary, unless you aren't allowed to.
Unsubscribing, it’s not you it’s me.
Wonderful echo chamber you have here.
I bet it keeps all the sanity out.
Oh my, There is finally Jordan Peterson that understands what is going on with all the BS at the moment
Thank God for Jordan Peterson. He's brilliant and gives me hope that the woke movement won't feminize our entire species afterall.
What a bunch of nonsense.
Can you explain yourself without cliches? Bc it’s not at all clear what you are trying to say.
He's a joke. If he's your guy, the woke agenda is gonna win 😂
Someone that is thinking the same as our family - thank you 🙏🏻
His voice sounds exactly like Saul Goodman’s to me.
This won't age well. Human nature is natural, though not inevitable as evolution would alter it. Also to argue that acting to defend one's own group is misusing the "science" is truly silly. It's instinctive, therefore resonates immediately when heard. Nobody would argue that euthanizing a rabid pet dog to save your family is wrong even if you initially accepted that pet into your home. In other words, with all the word salad, kowtowing and virtue signalling that we're above base instincts, at the end of the day we are all animals, smart animals but nonetheless, our survival requires a biological survival imperative. I'm no JBP fan, but sometimes he's correct.
Utopian ideas will never beat base instincts.
"Human nature" is meaningless because there's no such thing as unnatural human behavior.
Animals are not capable of rational thought and decision making. They act purely on instinct and survival, HUMANS act on THOUGHT and EMOTION, carefully choosing of what will be the best outcome for us and our happiness, health, momentary or lasting benefit, “is this the best option?” “ will it make me feel good?” etc. not to mention societies animals built are not based off top down power of money, culture, art, capitalism, racial differences, sex & gender and man made LAWS that benefit the wealthy that all shape our human society.
There are actual smart animals and then there are smart humans. Saying humans are just “smart animals” alongside the statement “I’m not a fan of JP but a lot of what he says is correct” is misanthropic at best and alarming at worst.😬
Not to be this person but people who argue about “Biological Base Instincts” and really believe Humans are in the same category as animals in regards to such are NOT the people you want in a discussion on male gr00mers & sexual assault against women 😬😬😬
For me it seems you dont actually understand what he is actually saying. Because i have listened to him and nothing of what he actually says is in any agreement with what you say he is saying. Its taken out of context and it also shows that you arent willing to actually try to listen and understand.
In order to actually listen, you cant allow for your preconceived notions to take hold over you, you dont try to object what you are trying to do is understand what they are saying, even if they bring up things you disagree with.
In order to listen you have to quiet your mind, if you feel anything either positive or negative you are not listening you are simply agreeing or disagreeing in that moment so what words that comes out next you almost implicitly agree or disagree with, but it colors the meaning of what they were trying to say, so you end up at the wrong point.
And even worse your understanding of evolutionary psychology is at the very best naive or dumb. And then you manage to say the dumbest thing i have heard today "that we are solely shaped by our biological inheritance" and you also say that you have tried to listen to him.
Im sorry was he speaking in a different language? Or did you suddenly fail to understand actual english? Well it has to be one or the other, because he never said that, what he said was that our evolutionary psychology will to some degree color our perceptions. What he didnt say was "that our evolutionary psychology will determine your psychology today" So you are actually saying you agree with him?
Then you manage to say that our evolutionary psychology faces a mismatch with our hierarchies, so you agree with him again. Then you say that in our history our sociteties were egalitarian, did you go to school in a box of cornflakes?
All i can say, is this, you never managed to listen to him, either because you are too naive to do it, or because you are to dumb to do it, i would hate for it to be the latter. Im sorry you are either 5 years old or way to dumb, i am halfway through the video and you havent said a single word against what his stance is, now that is remarkable. You also contradict yourself, on one hand you say egalitarian societies, and then you say that they werent.
Even worse and maybe more stupid, you bring up problems but offer no single solution, even worse bring up a solution that will work. Im sorry by now i feel rather forced to write you off as dumb and i dont want that to that.
Then you bring up the falsehood online, so you do agree with him after all? I sincerely hope you did less then 5 hours of research. Right now all i see is the limitations to your understanding of what he is saying. I just have to say that you are incredibly dumb, you think its based on one study that you managed to find? Well that is wrong there are over 100 studies and if my memory serves Jordan Peterson cites at least 7 of them.
Then Jordan Peterson says its cultural and evolutionary psychology aka biology, which further shoots yourself in the foot saying that he reduces everything into evolutionary biology, did you even read your script before you made this video? No the studies supports that claim and you come up with a "nahh ahh". well done, better counter argument i have never heard.
Then you say that peterson advocates for traditional gender roles where he does nothing of the sort, what he says is "that we dont know what to do about it" by now im hoping your research was less then 4 hours.
Then you further fail to understand how the big five can contribute to different behavior of men and women which will lead to different gender roles. Im sorry i have to stop now, i have tried to listen to level earth observer but i cant because everything he says is just so completely wrong. Just as you are about what Jordan Peterson is actually saying.
I sincerely hope you make a video far less wrong in the future, maybe about how we know the moon is made of a very rare red cheese in france. I mean it would be wrong but not as wrong as this video.
Hunter-gatherer societies which we evolved from were egalitarian.
@@Inhumanformwould you have something else to respond? Do you think some or most or none of what he said was true?
Bro got out his war paint & Helmet to fight for JP…..
By which I mean his Chalk makeup and rainbow wig🤡
@@cheyennecolin5546 i notice more that the angriness comes from the fact that he notice inconsistencies and incoherence in Inhumanform’s video more than the fact that it’s about jp. I’m maybe wrong, probably i am not totally accurate. I don’t know either if the inconsistencies that he referes to are true or not. That’s more my guess, that’s why i would have liked to get a response from Inhumanform to the comment. To know if Inhumanform think some of what he said might have been in fact incoherent or no.
What do you mean when you say that JP doesn’t know what to do about traditional gender roles. Could you elaborate what you believe he is saying on this topic?
You don't recognize your own hypocrisy. You are doing the same thing you say he's guilty of, so what does that say about you? You've also taken many of these clips out of context. Then base your conclusions on your personal feelings. I'm not going to even get started on the gender nonsense. This really highlighted your immaturity. Maybe you should go clean your room. So dissapointing. This was one of my favorite channel's too. Best of luck. ❤
Bro Jordan Peterson isn’t gonna kiss you. This video has solid criticisms of his whole persona. Why on earth is it considered hypocritical? That pointing out people aren’t lobsters?
Do "transgenders are confused" next. You'll have a lot more facts
Huh?
transphobia is bigotry and you will never see heaven if you perpetuate it as you do
Wat?
LAME AND WRONG