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Hey family!
We're aware Sierra said confederate statues instead of afrikaneer statues towards the end of the video. Peace and love, always!
Apartheid statues. Colonial statues. This is absurd and South Africans are being gaslit into thinking they bad for feeling disgusted by these lot
I'm South African and this is the truth. South Africa has a population of almost 60 million. Less than 4 million white people are left in South Africa. 93% of South Africa population are African. Orania has less than a 100thousand residents. The area they inhabit is smaller than any east rand town in Gauteng. Those white people aren't bothering anyone or any other culture. They are literally living in the middle of South Africa in the middle of nowhere. The nearest town is almost 3 hours drive away. There are no jobs left for Africans. They do not need Africans. They are completely self sustainable. They do not need South Africa nor any African. Orania is for everyone. Orania is privately owned. Orania has the right to choose it's citizens. You won't find any white people in any major black community in South Africa so it's basically the same thing.
I'm South African and this is the truth. South Africa has a population of almost 60 million. Less than 4 million white people are left in South Africa. 93% of South Africa population are African. Orania has less than a 100thousand residents. The area they inhabit is smaller than any east rand town in Gauteng. Those white people aren't bothering anyone or any other culture. They are literally living in the middle of South Africa in the middle of nowhere. The nearest town is almost 3 hours drive away. There are no jobs left for Africans. They do not need Africans. They are completely self sustainable. They do not need South Africa nor any African. Orania is for everyone. Orania is privately owned. Orania has the right to choose it's citizens. You won't find any white people in any major black community in South Africa so it's basically the same thing.
There are no white people in any major black community or town in South Africa so it's basically the same thing.
I am black and I have stopped at Orania several times at their OK mini supermarket for food. I didn't feel any discrimination, It was actually quiet the opposite than what it's painted by the media. People were very friendly. Lot of people who are complaining about that town, wouldn't survive there. It is in middle of nowhere in Northern Cape, the closest towns are De Aar and Kimberley, which they are both -/+2 hours drive away. I respect them. They're building for themselves, they're not waiting for government to save them..We can learn a thing or two from them.
I still cannot believe "blacks" like you still exist, haven't you made enough money from selling "blacks" out?
Sober mind
They don't want you, they want your money!
Same during Apartheid they oppressed blacks but wanted their labour
Wake black child, we can't be this foolish as black South Africans
Gayton McKenzie also said they were friendly
@@mxolisiduke7503 when are some of you "black" africans gonna wake up,..WAKE UP!..AND SMELL THE COFFEE! GET YOUR HEAD OUT YOUR..This situation is not as harmless as you think it is! WAKE UP!
As a black South African, I don't see anything wrong with Orania, because it is in the middle of the nowhere, I wouldn't live there. Also there are several places like Zulu only hostels, where only Zulu men stay, it's not desctrimination but people prefer to associate with their own. I wish we can have more communities of like minded people who work hard towards their town instead of looking at the unreliable government for assistance.
Most white people don't want to live there either.
I think the way they manage themselves is admirable. That being said, there's a difference, being that Zulu people are native to South Africa & white people aren't. Tell me if black people in Netherlands would be allowed to do that
@@DAWN_103.5 Actually , no.
The Zulu's migrated to South Africa from the north , just as white people die.
@@DAWN_103.5Zulus aren't native to South Africa. They are descended from Bantus who migrated South from Cameroon/Nigeria in the 4th century. The only truly native people here are the Khoisan.
You are a fool. You and people who have no problem with illegal foreigners crossing the border have the exact same problem. You underestimate what these people will be able do in the future. Thats your problem
Everyone is allowed there but there are strict rules who can actually live there. Not even all white Afrikaners qualify to live there. The other thing is that it is a very small community, fewer than 3000 people and the town has existed for more than 30 years already as far as I know. They built everything up from the ground themselves.
SA constitution protect its citizen from discrimination1. Section 9 (3) states that the states , organization may not unfairly discriminate directly or indirectly against anyone on one or more grounds, including race, gender, sex, pregnancy, marital status, ethnic or social origin, color, sexual orientation, age, disability, religion, conscience, belief, culture, language, and birth2. The Constitution also provides for the enactment of national legislation to
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When a company wants 90% of women to work for it its a discrimination? @@andeyo1
@@andeyo1 You're also allowed freedom of association under the constitution. This is a privately owned town.
Do you have non-Christians in a monastery ?
We also have race laws that discriminate against white people in the form of affirmative action , BEE and quotas.
Less than 1% of white people in the world qualify to live there.
It's about culture , not race but because of SA's history , many want to make it about race.
Visitors are very welcome there, of all colours. You can stay there in a guest house or whatever and you will be treated like a king
Saying visitors are welcome when they're the visitors
Tourism for money
@user-th9et8cb3e are you the owner if we are visitors? Well I have a surprise for you.
Orania is a privately owned town, they bought the land. It is run like a business.
Bought from who?
@@nic0072 that land is one of the benefits of Apartheid
@@SphehNkabza-oe9cr Government
@@SphehNkabza-oe9cr Rama
who sold the land for them?
You can say what you want, and I agree that segregation is never the answer, but the people of Orania take pride in their town - in how it is developed, keeping it running and keeping it clean. If every person felt that same kind of pride and responsibility, it would make a huge difference everywhere else.
If Africans felt that pride, I promise you you won't be in Africa
I live in Northern Cape and Orania is not far from where I stay and I would say orania is still a community and us as black people if we are not aware in like the next 10 years orania will be fully independent from South Africa
They are displaying zionist tendencies.
Independent as far as governing themselves on town level only. They are part of SA and all SA laws apply.
@@nic0072 A town of 20 000+ people can be totally independent from a corrupt government or not? 😂
It's really no different from the USA having an exclusive area for the Amish in Pennsylvania.
Did the Amish also colonize, destroy, murder and do apartheid to the Native Americans?
There are no white people in any major black community or town in South Africa so it's basically the same thing the only difference is the residents of orania keeps their town clean organized and safe. There is no crime in orania unlike the rest of South Africa. People are only complaining because it's white people living properly and normal lives without any disruption to their daily lives from other South Africans.
I am from the Northern Cape and my province is like Arizona/Nevada, towns are small and very far from each other, it's also dry(all year), cold(winter) and hot(summer). Most people don't want to live in or visit Orania, it's not even on a busy national or provincial road. It's a remote town, nothing is going on there, and it's far from everything. I don't even know how they live in such an isolated town. The lifestyle there is similar to the Amish, Mennonites, Mormons etc. living in isolated communities. The political hype around that town is overblown.
In South Africa, there can only be mayors of cities and municipalities, not mayors of small towns or villages. Since mayors represent the government and this is a private development, Mr. Strydom serves as CEO of Orania rather than mayor.
Orania is a rural town, and rural areas are typically divided into local municipalities and districts. A municipality may have multiple towns and villages under its territory, and the municipalities of Thembelihle and Pixley ka Seme district represent Orania. The mayor of Thembelihle is a Black man named Mr. Leonard Makena. The town he's supposed to serve is off-limits to him as well.
It's not just black people who can't live there. Lots of white people are not allowed either. It's not about race, it's about culture, principles and beliefs.
They're saying SA is not safe, but they created all this madness in South Africa. They moved black people into location leavings like sardines. What did they expect?
Rubbish! The New Democratic South Africa is full of criminals because the ANC lead govt killed the economy but did not create any jobs. Unemployment is the biggest problem in South Africa. This leads to more crime.
So if you live like sardines you can do the crime? There's currently more black millionaires in SA than white millionaires by the way. In the rest of Africa the poverty is even worse than in SA but the crime rate is nowhere near as high as in SA.
@@patienceikombele9161 Thank you
And what has the current government done in the last 30 years ?
You fs lived like kings, hence the over breeding! Jealousy because you can’t build or create,only break. Look at your South Africa today??? What’s your excuse?
Ade Adepitan, a AfroBritish journalist for Channel 4 (UK), one of the best journalism over in the UK, spent a week there I believe and I think he had a positive view of the town.
The problem with these towns, is that in the end we end up having strange conversations plus eventually the conversation will move to the colour of our skins.
There are interesting and inspiring things. They roll up their sleeves and it is greenery place.
You need to be a White Afrikaner Calvinist Christian.
Calvinists were persecuted in Europe, in some places completely massacred, especially in France, Belgium and Netherlands.
Very niche white population 😜
Orania is a place were up to the religion is dictated i think Dutch Reformed...and no rif raf trouble makes either ..no singles shacking up and only afrikaans ... So not all afrikaaners can just roll into this town and live there. Also you have to contribute financially and /or to the labour of the town...so no one gets free rides there .... which i think is genius.
I love Orania . South African constitution section 235 allows self determination of tribes which shares the same values and culture.
As a Black person I adore self sufficient and self reliant people.
They are building the nation for their descendants. It's beautiful .
Even where I am from, our circuit allows ONLY our tribe to buy land and stay there. Every other tribes or races could visit but not allowed to be permanent residents as long as they are not part of our tribe. If you do something wrong, you and your entire family may be outcasted out of our circuit.
So, its not a big deal if Orania does the same. Staying around your people its the way.
I can't imagine myself having next door of a Zulu or other person because we don't share cultural values.
I'm affected by your comment you made about a "Zulu"
Cause I'm the Zulu👀
people from the outside need to realize, there is race flip in south africa. south africa is mostly black remember that. and no, i dont care. as a fellow south african i work and live amongst black people, we call each other brother and not because of skin color. racism exists here in politics
Didn't know we had an isolated city in SA, can't wait to visit (I'm black)
@@Crazy_B345 You know we’re not welcome there haha 🤣
@@sharifnsubugatheauthor Of course you are as a visitor but you can not live there because they have strict residential rules. Whether you yourself will feel welcome there (visiting), is of course a subjective question and all up to YOURSELF. Not sure if I will feel welcome visiting any black township myself. Same thing.
And you not even black, and you know about that European only town
It's a village of less than 3000 souls.
I visited Orania 3 times but I never got to stay there or explore properly. One thing I do remember seeing is that the people there pump their own petrol like people in America and Europe which is different to the rest of South Africa.
Orania preserving a culture of racism and oppression. From the flag ,to their statues,all have a connection to apartheid. But they can do whatever they want,the government doesn't care so I also don't.
Apartheid existed for only 30 years in SA, get over it.
Lol
",the government doesn't care so I also don't" Good
Jealousy is that you?😂
The Ingonyama Trust is a corporate entity established by the KwaZulu Legislative Assembly as a repository for the communal land of the Zulu Nation with His Majesty the King as the sole Trustee. In 1997 the democratic National Parliament of the Republic of South Africa amended this Act, so that it is consistent with modern constitutional order. This amendment involved changes to all sections of the Act by way of the KwaZulu - Natal Ingonyama Trust Amendment Act 9 of 1997. This Act established the Trust Board appointed by the Minister of Agriculture, Land Reform and Rural Development following a consultative process with the KwaZulu - Natal Premier, Executive Council and the KwaZulu - Natal Provincial House of Traditional Leaders. The King remains the sole Trustee and he (or his nominee) chairs the Board.
The Trust Board is tasked with the responsibility of administering the Trust and Trust land for the benefit, material welfare and social well-being of the Zulu nation, who continue to occupy the land as they historically have done.[1] The Trust owns 29.67% of the land in KwaZulu-Natal, which is equivalent to 28,000 square kilometres, or 10,811 square miles.[2]
Eish South Africa is a 🎬 💯 ... just let the people live and observe them 👀
I think its beautiful that white people are able to come together, pool their resources in one basket and actually build a community from scratch, its an amazing display of how much they're willing to preserve their culture, safety and peace. Black people should really stay out of this one in my opinion, unless we're looking for inspiration to also build what is our own. We can learn a lot from this without looking at it in a Black and White way.
It's inspiring to see communities of any background build strong communities. We support these efforts as long as they do not harbor hatred towards others. Since we were asked for our opinion on this video quite a bit, we decided to share our thoughts.
it is black and white and founded by extreme arrogance...they can always find an place in Europe where they can tell black people they have no right to be ...This Is Azania (TIA)
@@TheDemouchetsREACT Like in all communities everywhere there will be some racists in that community and there will be some people there who hate other people also like anywhere else. What I can say is that the town was not built on a basis of hatred or racism but rather than preservation of a certain culture and religion.
@@nic0072It was built on that. It literally has statues of apartheid killers
@@TshepangmorenaMoeti Why don't they pull their resources to go back home
They are just another town in SA and all laws in SA apply to them.
Orania is just a town like any other town in South Africa, that has a specific cultural group. They are just governing themselves to an extent.
@rolexrich1927 No, it's not they have their own currency, their own bank technically its a country within South Africa
No town in South Africa that is Exclusively for a certain race group in South Africa. They deliberately exclude other race groups
@@Poppyrabbit08it's very small and there are not many countries that think it's a country
@@Lemonsforyou Do you perhaps know how Palestine became israel?
@@Poppyrabbit08 No shop in SA accepts orania money but they do take the Rand which means in the end they just playing town, town monopoly
Orania does NOT state you must be a WHITE Afrikaner - they say an Afrikaner with Calvinist views. They do NOT say WHITE anywhere! Total BS by that narrator! they are very much like an Amish community. If you go into the Ngonyama Trust, you will find exactly the same thing, just Zulus (who happen to be all Black). There is no uproar from anyone about this. PS. there are Coloureds (minority) there too so its not all WHITE! This inconvenient fact is never mentioned - I wonder why not???? I am not an Afrikaner with Calvinist views so I could not live there either (I am WHITE) Can you live in an Amish community???? Same thing! Orania exists on private land so right of entry is reserved. Orania is not like swaziland or Lesotho, they are part of South Africa BUT far away from anywhere else - literally in semi arid unpopulated area. Nobody lives there besides them because the land is considered worthless by everyone else. The only interest in the land there now, is that land which belongs to Orania, which has been developed by the Oranians themselves! Lastly, APARTHEID, as envisaged by Hendrik Verwoed - the architect of Apartheid whose statue is there - was meant to be separate BUT equal. This last part was not done by the ensuing Afrikaner Government who used Black labour to do all the menial work. The Oranians believe in doing all the work themselves and not being dependant on anyone else. Many Black South Africans have a problem with this aspect as they believe they are not being given the opportunity of jobs. Essentially, Afrikaners believe in their own independance and is why they went on the Groot Trek in the first place (to get out from under the yoke of the British who imposed their laws upon them). Oranians believe in their own independance and preservation of their own culture (Racism is NOT part of that culture). They are also willing to help others in establishing their own settlements, if they are asked. They ARE succeeding where the rest of RSA is not, which is what has lead to this enmity towards them!
This is Africa. This is unacceptable, you can't beat around the bush. The whole world sees apartheid is alive and kicking in South Africa
Look at you trying to explain what we all see and know. You not fooling the world. You trying so hard 😂😂😂
Exactly @@tiMos-w1n
You're absolutely right. The cultural values of ORANIANS should be protected.
Everyone got a right to start their own community. As a pedi person I can't imagine myself living next to a zulu person because I don't share the same cultural values as Zulus.
Asking for a friend: Will he be able to live in Orania as a black, Calvinist-Dutch reform, Afrikaans speaking individual? Basically qualifying in all respects except being non-white.
Goodluck black South Africans.
They run away from problem they created
😂
In 1997 I drove through Orania at 2.30pm on a Sunday. Did not see a living being - everybody was probably sleeping off a giant Sunday lunch. Did not even see a dog or a cat.
Wow that's weird. I mean a white cat and white dog would surely stand out at night.
I drove with my family through Orania atleast 3 times on the way to Cape Town from Gauteng in about 2017 & 2018. A small dorpie where people pump their own gas rather than having an attendee. That's all I really remember about it 😂
How can you do GOD'S work by segregating urself and only seeing 1 colour in the Rainbow 🇿🇦 Nation
Exactle they can go to Europe
The same way there are Black only homelands in South Africa protected under the constitution.
There is no rainbow nation and there will never be one accept it and live with it.
During the recent elections there was one person in Orania who voted for the EFF 😂😂😂😂 I'm pretty sure they wanna find that "traitor"😂😂😂😂
really, and the black south Africans voted for DC party because malema was calling for African unity 🇳🇬💯
@@JONAHOGAR-gl5ub Lmao, African unity will never happen and we hate Malema in South Africa
They probably weren't wearing their glasses and put their cross in the wrong box
🤣🤣🤣You vote where you registered not where you live, I voted in Polokwane because I was there on a temporary basis so next election I will vote in my hometown again. Think! 🤣
They are running away from the problem that they created.
That’s a bar
Oop
YOU ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!! 👍The problem is corrupt and spineless politicians.
@@patienceikombele9161 think about how quickly they created a thriving, successful and safe community. From scratch. Why can’t African people do the same ?
@@Salmonpaper26363 The West is always ready to sabotage that of Africa due to resources control. That is always the problem. They will want to make sure it is destabilised. To destabilise this Oriana is very easy if the SA government or black people in SA want to. Do you know that?
The truth is... This is how Israel started 😢, then they start wanting more and more. Eventually taking a piece of African land from Africans.
Its been 4 months no loadshedding 😂i dont know what loadshedding is anyone and i don't want to be reminded 😂
This is Africa. I dont know if this says something about how weak and dormant we are. This isn't Ubuntu or wanting peace. It is cowardness
Is private land just like Phokeng, where only Bafokeng can live
What no one is telling you, os that its private land that has been boght for them to build on, that is why they have a CEO and not a mayor. Its a business and private, same as armish would have private land.
Will it ever expand or is there a plan for expansion in the future? This is a country that has passed through segregation(Apartheid) and having this doesn't heal the past wound. This is not longer a community while looking at some of the plans, having their own money(despite has no value), gradually separating from the national amenities, etc. I have no problem with keep a decent community but not with Apartheid twist. If it not about skin colour and they hold on to the idea of segregation it means the same thing in a nutshell.
I am not against all white community but to start keeping a culture that robs others of their humanity before them is a slap on the face though.
Orania is not new, it has always been there
Please don't think that all white South Africans are like this!
They're afrikaners
I honestly do not care about Orania as long as they are just living their lives in their world not bothering anyone. As long as they do not get any services from the government because they build their own world unless if they pay tax as well but I don’t know how that would work because they have their own currency. We live with whoever wants to live with us and they made it clear that it’s whites only town so we don’t care. South African people who are bothered by Orania suprise me. They are living their lives separate from other people because they want to preserve apartheid. They just realised that the time for them being masters was over and they couldn’t stand. The supremacy and pride in them would not allow them. Let them be. Some of us are not bothered. There are plenty of white people who love South Africa and get along with everyone regardless of skin colour without motives and those ones we call them our people. The rest we do not care.
They must do that in Europe
@@tiMos-w1n exactly
I love this
They do pay tax to government, but do not get services from the government in return.
@@jvanvuuren8461 I wonder how that works because they have their own currency. Does this mean that they still use Rand somehow? Again they are staying in South Africa which is a governed country hence they created their own village so it is right that they should abide .
As a South African i can tell you this is nonsense. We have people still fighting for their ancestral land and languages to be recognized whilst the colonizers are still allowed to segregate and develop in the same land. Its heartbreaking no matter how we try to ignore it and the world sees it
It is preserving culture. If Zulu people did the same, you would not complain.
Then get your act together and do something for yourselves. Kwazulu Natal has loads of tribal land and is occupied solely by blacks. I am not - as a white person-allowed to buy a piece of land there. And all belongs to the Chief!!
@@strix5387 Zulu people didn't colonize Africa
@@strix5387how can zulu colnoze africa if it's african
Referring to white people as colonizers all the time does not create fore a cohesive multicultural environment, no living person today took part in that.
I stay Like 70km from Orania..Am Originaly From Hopetown..Its a town situated next to orania..."First Diamond Was Discover In Hopetowm"
South Africa is still segregated
"South Africa is still segregated" And it will become more segregated because freedom of association is guaranteed in the constitution and with SA falling apart it is obvious.
Yes , there are race laws that give black people preferential treatment in SA.
Also keep in mind. There are no white people in any major black community or town in South Africa so it's basically the same as orania the only difference is the residents of orania keeps their town clean organized and safe. They don't have crime like the rest of SA. There are less than 4 million white people left in SA and less than a 100thousand in Orania.
All the unanswered questions I have from what this documentary CHOSE to show or delve into screams undercover AWB!!! AWB!!! AWB!! AWB!!!!!!!!!!
if you ever visit south africa you should go there , you will be very surprised how the people are
Funny enough a year or two years are a contract was put in place for independent power producers to sell electricity to eskom and also forcing eskom to unbundle/separating their departments to be independent. Generation for generating electricity ⚡️. Transmission for transmitting electricity. And distribution for distributing electricity ⚡️.
On the first of july 2024 the first phase of unbundling was completed separating transmission from eskom and being and independent company, now Orania will have an “easy” access in selling the electricity they generate from their solar farm to transmission company..
How many black people in SA that have the resources of building a solar farms to sell?
Loadshedding it has been orchestrated in a very sophisticated way to separate eskom entities for towns and people living these town to flourish and becoming their own countries later
To answer your question Durbin has many Indian only arias.
3:53 I watched this video already… it’s only hitting me now that l actually watched that series the friend acted in😅
Let us look at the facts behind what we see in how Orania is looked after and how Boksburg, Brakpan, Germiston, provinces, their cities and municipalities from before 1994 and thereafter when power was handed over to the ANC and tell me do you think that we should all accept the distraction that you now see of this once beautiful cities, provinces and there suburbs and bankrupt municipalities that was once like Orania?
Watch Penuel's videos about it, He dived into it very accuratly
Not the same as Amish cos to them is ABOUT race
Not race. Tribe.
South Africa is still segregated
It's not just them that are living like that
Less than 1% of white people qualify to live in Orania.
Race is not what qualifies you to live there.
Like Phokeng for Bafokeng only.
No, it's, about having the same religion and the same culture.
Don't get stuck on skin colour. A lady told me that she was living with her boyfriend in Orania, and was asked to leave because of being in breach of Christian values. She said to me "I'm too young to marry!" she's about 30 ish. So they moved out. I am white. I have no desire to live there. I live in a place where all races live peacefully together. I feel. Let them be. It's their choice.
Nothing different to suburbs in South Africa...where I live in Cape Town, i will speak about Muslim neighborhoods close to me which were white areas previously but communities Muslim owned businesses buy have bought houses and properties and resell to Muslim in order to build a Muslim community only...no one is excluded of going there but they want to be around people of their own culture and religion
Who polices Orania??
They spoke a lot about being independent, Does that also mean they hope to one day have their own police/Defence force?? Or does it already exist??Something like the AWB!!?? Do they then also fund and support such Afrikaaner only militias?
Are they only nice and peaceful for now because they need to be in order to grow in peace under the cover of a facade??
And to what limit do they hope to grow alone within South Africa? Is this not how peaceful Jewish communities that wished to PRESERVE THEIR CULTURE created ISRAEL within PALESTINE?.
Yeah they like Lesotho, you supposed to be South Africans guys 😊 because you already know alot
Equality in the USA was on paper in 1964 and in South Africa 1991. Some feelings need time.
As long as they aren't bothering anyone
Why Mandela let that continue we'll never know
Same way he "got" mines straight from prison to being a millionaire 🤷🏾♀️😭
Afrikaaners are allowed to have their South African historic fingerprint
Which is Apartheid neh
@@tiMos-w1n Apartheid was a law not a culture. Apartheid is abolished, they always had culture, also Apartheid is a part of every South Africans fingerprint.
However Afrikaans is well established in SA whether you like it or not
South Africans dont have a problem with Orania.
Yeah but when Black Americans see white people live in peace, prospering without problem or crime. They get really angry.
What don't you like,that there is no crime or is it that these folk are religious and do not want the corruption and godlessness in life
Even white people that speaks English are not allowed just only Afrikaans 😅😅😅😅
Who allowed this to happen in the first place? they must go and open orania in Europe
How will you feel if they tell all black Africans in the diaspora to go back to Africa 😢.
"Who allowed this to happen in the first place?" Nobody because freedom is for free.
Also why cant the English or Afrikaans people preserve their heritage though
People preserve their heritage everywhere around the without segregation. Most especially, in a very sensitive country as South Africa due to past history is questionable.
@@youme1414 so you saying Afrikaaners shouldn't preserve their heritage
@@AGirlNamedVan How can you call Apartheid reminder a heritage? read between the line for goodness sake. They have the right to preserve their heritage but not by bringing back into a country such ideology has caused a lot of people so much harm and pains. That is not how to do it. Segregation is not an excuse for heritage preservation. Let's be realistic for once. People have been preserving their heritage without being segregated around the world. Thank you.
@@youme1414 how is it segregation? It's private land. And they can govern their property as they see fit.
@@AGirlNamedVan They are segregating themselves from others. One of the purposes of heritage is social cohesion not trying to bring back memories that cause pains for many people in the same country, ma'am. That is a recipe for hate.
I am not against their community but making it all white alone defeats the preservation of their heritage. At least, the suffering of the black people is part of it in South Africa. That is my argument.
An you educate us on the Amish in Pennsylvania please because I've never heard you guys complain about them.
Racism is the main issue with these people. They are striving towards a better life, yes, but please, these are racists. Period. The whole issue is exactly that.
Wrong. You are only looking at skin colour.
we can talk abou a reminder about Ver Woerd but what about our present opressing goverment, against all colours of our nation?
Orania is nothing but a race preservation town! 🤔🤔
Culture! You have to understand the huge difference in culture between the races in South Africa
for them to even allowed this utuber to put up this video out there means their planning to break out and own an independent state
I think your video missed the part where she said " It doesn't even smell bad" I think that's the only part that sounded a bit disrespectful and out of touch.
I do have mixed feelings and thoughts about this Orania issue, at the first instance, I hate that it is racial segregation, point blank! At second glance and my other opinion in regard to this place, we do need to have communities such as this, not necessarily based on race or even ethnicity, but common purpose, ideals and objectives! If there were to be such a community, I would not mind to be a part of it! Firstly, with the moral decay thay we face here in South Africa, a community where morality is prioritised, you can count me in! Secondly, the rule of law, I think we have veered so far off the rail in that regard, and it has become a norm, that explains the prevalence of crime that we, the law abiding citizenry is exposed to on a daily bases! I just think there is more than meets the eye here! I no longer look at things with the same eye as I did when I was in my 20's and 30's! I am more receptive to a lot of things these days, so an Orania type of community is what I can accept!
they even have their local currency, how sad it is for people to come from Gods knows where, to own their own segregated country in Africa.💯🇳🇬
So Amish community it is.
cant it bring the problem of racism and soveregnity ?
Pure racism!!!
Orania wants independence from south Africa and to become a future country so all African nations should not support it's dream will be colonization over again 😢
What garbage. They don't want to become a country. They have no such plans. They just want to be left in peace.
You do not live in South Africa. So how can you judge people who like to live on their own, is it jealousy? No white can live in a South Africa township. So why do you not make a video about this?
Way to little information for this subject.
No such segregated places exist in RSA. It's only Oranja.
The Ingonyama Trust is a corporate entity established by the KwaZulu Legislative Assembly as a repository for the communal land of the Zulu Nation with His Majesty the King as the sole Trustee. In 1997 the democratic National Parliament of the Republic of South Africa amended this Act, so that it is consistent with modern constitutional order. This amendment involved changes to all sections of the Act by way of the KwaZulu - Natal Ingonyama Trust Amendment Act 9 of 1997. This Act established the Trust Board appointed by the Minister of Agriculture, Land Reform and Rural Development following a consultative process with the KwaZulu - Natal Premier, Executive Council and the KwaZulu - Natal Provincial House of Traditional Leaders. The King remains the sole Trustee and he (or his nominee) chairs the Board.
The Trust Board is tasked with the responsibility of administering the Trust and Trust land for the benefit, material welfare and social well-being of the Zulu nation, who continue to occupy the land as they historically have done.[1] The Trust owns 29.67% of the land in KwaZulu-Natal, which is equivalent to 28,000 square kilometres, or 10,811 square miles.[2]
I personally don't have a problem with oranje I can understand sometimes you get fed up with loadshedding crime and things like that. Atleast they staying in a controlled environment where they create jobs and plant vegetables themselves. They have created a community where everyone thrives and they share with their neighbors if they don't have.