🇿🇦 SOUTH AFRICA'S BIG DEBATE ON RACISM- Part 1 | The Demouchets REACT SOUTH AFRICA
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- 🇿🇦 SOUTH AFRICA’S BIG DEBATE ON RACISM - Part 1 | The Demouchets REACT SOUTH AFRICA
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Ummm…. This reaction took over 2 hours so there will be 2 parts.😅 Remember to be respectful. If you don’t agree with someone’s comment, do so respectfully and without name calling. This is a place of peace.
This is the conversation needed
If our government had never been corrupt SA would be so far now
I understand SA is something unsual to a lot of people outside, but we gonna push this ideal SA we want , we been doing it
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Thank u guys for taking our african stories more out there. And for your time of course. ❤️🇿🇦🇺🇸
South Africans and touching the root of the problem whilst having a friendly laugh afterwards is why I'll always have hopes for my nation. 💙🇿🇦
❤️❤️ Love this about you all!
I completely agree with you, I have pride in knowing that our first internal step we take is to recognize that we should protect each other while having this conversation. Though this is largely the case, it occasionally doesn't filter through to everyone.
There's some key points from each person before they blow up that I feel is a through line that could unite us all, and that same template could be used everywhere... Funny how this sentiment resembles the words or Mandela's dream for South Africa. How we keep that energy is one of the challenges I think
Sisonke is one of my favourite South African authors. She is sooo smart and is on the pulse of South African race issues. Such a queen
Hey Fam, when we say South Africa has complex issues people think we are exaggerating, but the reality is there's so much we deal with, there's so much we dealt with and there's so much we still have to deal with. As hard as it is we still get along on many levels. And we don't shy away to talk about racism and other problems we have in our country, that's why a lot of people from outside South Africa think we are the worst of the worst because we publicly address our issues meanwhile they sweep their problems under the rug and don't have the media freedom and exposure as we do.
We don’t think you all are the worst. These conversations and debates are needed to push peace and understanding forward.
Ameeeen to that
Well said brother Theo. 👏👏👏
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@The Demouchets REACT he also refers to other fellow Africans. Most of them are always ready to attack us on our faults because South Africa doesn't hide anything from anyone while other countries still function as dictatorship though they claim democracy as a result they control what goes out in media
Black South Africans are very articulate and have clarity of thought. Ill give it to them. They dont shy away fron confronting their challenges. They are resilient and have the spirit of no surrender. Love the fact that they dont run away from their country. Racism is illegal in south africa 🇿🇦 and one can be jailed for racial prejudice.
Thank you
Exactly racism is not taken lightly here
can you please clarify , what you mean by they dont run their country, you think others african are running from theirs?
@@mwananze9854 i would say yes, a lot of africans do run away from their countries. there are millions of people from especially zimbabwe who come here. or to put it: running away from their country. whether they should or not, is not what i am addressing here, i am merely saying that it definitely does happen.
@@mwananze9854 yes its obvious
I’m a white South African, born after apartheid, so I grew up not having any racial tension. I went to a school with majority different races and I never experienced any racial tension. Of course it was there and I think my generation want to mix together, we want to live together and I love it. I hope we can grow together, and bring black people back up to the top. But like you said it could take years until we are fully equal.
I hope you haven't left the country
What I like about my country we talk no matter how uncomfortable it is 🇿🇦🇿🇦
We don't talk enough my brother
Talk and do absolutely zilch
Too much talk...too little actually doing things.
That's the problem we talk and no action.
It's super complicated...Coloureds Indians and other Asian groups were regarded more highly than black people
Hierarchy of racism continues
And what you said is ridiculous and NOT true
Exactly, but they always seem to conveniently forget that
True
@@cocolovesdior8443 It's easy for us to think that way...however imagine how you would feel if you were placed high on pedestal and then have that taken away in the blink of an...and this was happening for years...We are all traumatized by the Apartheid era...And now even continue to traumatized by the post Apartheid era...It's a lot..And the leadership we have currently isn't helping
@@ShaqleeToine10.02 agree,instead of trying to to better than those of the past most wanna get revenge,we cant forgive the past but we can try to do bettee.
I love the fact just like my country Kenya, South Africans don't shy away from speaking out loud about their problems. We have so many countries in Africa where people are quiet and they praise presidents that are corrupt and partial but no one can speak up for the fear of death or jail terms.
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But unlike kenya which is progressing south africa once an industrial and nuclear power is going down hill,
@@Inagole4233 I honestly think we south Africans have the money to come back from it.
I'm coloured from Cape Town just imagine living on the Cape Flats where gangs shoot at each other in broad daylight and the Police respond time is always 30 min to an hour later and a white person living in Camp's Bay have a bad dream press a panic button and private armed response team+ Police respond within minutes,so sad but we love country 🇿🇦
Yes. Poor government services.
This is true
😂😂bad dream bro!
In South Africa you can go to jail for racism....and hate speech gets you heavily fined or jail time!!
This is a law we would love to vote in here!
We have robust hate speech laws in Canada too.
We must just be careful that the cries for help from all groups must not be misinterpreted as racism. Cant wait for the day that the clock is reset and there is no more hate speach. Im guilty as charged when it comes to hate speach but not on race but CRIME. Whilst we try and find a midway we should look at the true causes of the demise of our country. Love to all my brothers and sisters❤
Hate speech is completely legal in America if you are the right "kind" of person apparently,, I see it every day and it's pretty disgusting.
The problem with those laws is, who makes them and decides what is racism? In some circumsrances just relating facts about demographics gets you cancelled on youtube for example
One thing about my South African people...we definitely talk about it. And we can still get on with life.
We have to bra especially with people like the Zille's an cliff's around
Do we?
That guy working for a university is my cousin, He fought for workers and today he is a millionaire
Wow that's great to hear
31:52 "Your mindset doesn't change just because your pockets changed"
-- Mr Demouchets
Hi Fam, based on some videos you've reacted on, you now realise that in SA we re so explicit about our issues such as race, poverty etc. It's a conversation that was needed and its still relevant. Its a self reflection and instrospection for us.
Rightfully so. Closed mouths and idle hands doesn’t get anything accomplished:
I wish more people were explicit. I hate sugar coating serious issues.
I've been watching reaction videos since 2016 it's a habit i picked up at varsity but my favorite reactors were always black Americans and mostly when they react to south african content whether it be music, sports or tik tok compilations videos, I just found it appealing that we have that connection as black people when it comes to the love we have for music, entertaining we love to have fun and enjoy ourselves and i wanna say I've enjoyed watching reaction videos from this channel as South African i feel happy to see our stories receiving more audience more power to y'all
Much love!
Firstly, our human rights policies are great on paper. However, lots of stuff goes unreported. Most of these depend though. My young adult son has not experienced racial tensions, but we educate him about it all the time. But also SA talks about racism everyday. This debate is kept alive. I appreciate that about us.
She is Indian but in professional and business sectors they are categorised as black people coz all three race groups( black, coloured and indian) were disadvantaged though the level differed according to your race.
That a trash classification, just nonsense. They shouldn’t have done that.
Im a married man too, and just the passive way you patient with your wife and just the overall way you around her is genuinely inspiring.
They seem to respect each other first.
2:09 That’s Doja cat’s dad when he was young.
I feel like as Blacks forgive too easy. We wont get anywhere thinking like this. We are like the Hurt Girlfriend that keeps on going back to the Abusive boyfriend
Sad truth
I like how you guys speak to each other even though you do not agree with each other, keep it up. Great channel.
On a daily basis we do recognise our differences, what the indian sister was addressing is that we(black, indian and coloured) were seperated by one race which makes us relate in that sense
Race categorisation in South Africa as it relates to Broad-Based Black Economic Empowerment (BBBEE) lumps Africans, coloureds and Indians as BLACK so they can benefit from economic inclusion. Women of all races and young people also get extra points in these regard, based on their economic exclusion during apartheid. They still have their different cultures but they are categorised as black. It's like me saying I'm black or African, but explain I'm Xhosa or Zulu.
I can’t wait for part two when you guys are ready😅. I love your videos, South African 🇿🇦 living in Ireland 🇮🇪 .
In my opinion, trouble started when the British arrived as south african
I cant wait for part 2, the stuff yall said made me question myself as a half afrikaner, portugese person 😂
This video was made 9yrs ago and these issues they speak of are still there and some have gotten worse.
Probably worst now than then.
Your content on these kinds of topics means alot. On behalf of any students who follow you, much appreciated 🙏🏾
Love Dem ❤🔥
This had to be one of the best episodes of the big debate south Africa
Great commentary! Love that you’re reacting to all aspects of SA (food, culture,lifestyle and history) and that you’re genuinely interested in African countries in their entirety 🙌🏾 I also love that you don’t see these African countries as a mere destination to have an expensive vacation for way less (taking advantage of the exchange rates) as most do when they proclaim “Africa is beautiful”. Your channel shows that you have genuine love and respect for Africa. Can’t wait for part 2!! And do visit the motherland, you’ll feel right at home. Be blessed! Much love from Botswana 🇧🇼
Wow, what a necessary debate. Speaking out and listening in, is a move forward in itself, imho.
As a South African, this video is great. I appreciate your insights and comparisons, insightful for many of us I think. Lemme go watch part 2.
White people from Southern African countries like Zimbabwe, South Africa, my country Zambia, Angola for example are the most privileged group of people on earth.
Before moving to Australia i used to work for a company in Zambia where i was getting paid $600 p/m and the very young white "intern" dudes $2,500 p/m 😊😊 when we brought this up we were told "most companies will pay you $180 for this job so be grateful" 😊
please give me an address where I can apply.. I am a white person. I also want those privileges... lol... I think they forgot about me and my family.. I demand my privileges you are advertising..
The Demouchets are really smart people.... we love you guys 😍
Haha, I can't wait to see the second part of the reaction vid.
I had forgotten I had sent you the video link to react on..😄
To clarify... It was bettet to be classified colured and indian than native or african.
This is QUALITY content!
I've Learned so much from this, Shout out to you guys for bringing this one up
Hi guys,so I'm from Cape Town in South africa and I must say the white employers in cape Town prefer colored employees whether they are qualified for the job or not
😮 spill…
As a colored i highly disagree with that.
Come on let's not do this.. There are more eastern cape and foreign people employed than born capetonians, let's not create a hate narrative
It's true .
The end reaction from the two men is because the Khoisan are the original inhabitants on South Africa .
Khoisan people were classified as coloured people
You mean the Original habitants of Eastern cape and Northern cape?
Tsi
Cap...khoi and san are African and coloured are mixed
Do you know most Xhosa , Zulu Tswana and Sotho have more percentage of Khoisan genetic than coloureds ?.. .. there are coloured with no African genetics also.
They are not real inhabitants of limpopo
love the intro guys! you’re reaction we’re tops keep it up champs!❤
Someone must just speak the truth on the difference of Khoisan and Coloured people or we just gona let that slide and put them in the same category?
Khoisan are Cape Coloureds, Cape Coloureds are the only people in South Africa that were Slaves to the Slave Master Europeans thats why Cape Coloureds have European Names and European Culture, there Khoisan Names, Language and Culture was taken away from them because of Slavery just like African Americans. Cape Coloureds(Khoisan) are the only people in South Africa that were enslaved by the Europeans.
@@grantadams3190xM Khoisan is not just coloured people! Xhosa people also have Khoisan blood in them.
@@cocolovesdior8443 sum xhosa people not all, but around 90-95% of Cape Coloureds have Khoisan DNA.
@@grantadams3190 what do you mean Some? How do you no? Have you seen any DNA test results of us Xhosa?
The use of the label is just "cultural appropriation", as it's a flawed narrative.
Coloureds are a *mixed* colonial population of Asian-Caucasian-Africans.
(Some Asian-Europeans have no African blood at all.)
"Khoisan" is a European retroactive 20th century abstract label.
It's ahistoric and inorganic.
Homo sapiens is believed to have migrated from East Africa millennia ago. (Tens of thousands of years ago.)
Khoe-san is a way of life catch-all description: ancient African hunter-gatherers & pastoralists.
The L0d mitochondrial haplogroup is found almost exclusively in descendant populations only.
(Alternatively, it's a linguistic abstract classification, now largely moribund "Latin".)
SA modern natives are their descendants by the tens of millions.
When viewed as a pie-chart the modern tribes have as their single largest mitochondrial haplogroup contribution L0d with smaller layers of various neighbouring admixture over millennia.
(I.e. modern-formed cultures: Xhosa, Sotho, Zulu etc.
Most of these agglomerations were forged in their current form during the colonial era out of many bands of millennia-old lineage native people)
Hunter-gatherer, pastoralist & agro-pastoralist blended to form the SA extant native cultures that would band together with others long before the arrival of Europeans, who found that millennia-old lineage here.
And natives are under no obligation to be culturally static.
Some people do decide how they Identify ethnically..We do have Indians who identify as blacks..Coloureds who identify as Black..so it depends on the person...like I don't like being called black..I prefer African...so I would scratch out the Black on the tickbox and write African for example
You forgot white female is also under affirmative action
I'm finna do that as well now
@@leafrika6520 Yeah I ain't Black...I am African😂😂
I aint white. I am also African.... let that sink in :D ( i'm getting popcorn so long)
@@thezaffa7351 Well, it's true. If you are 4th or more generation here, you are African. As there is absolutely NO WAY to go 'back' to europe without citizenship. So we are Africans. Whether the other races in Africa like it or not.
I'll say it again... South Africa is a ticking time bomb!
Why?
@@gordondwyer3641 i can't speak for Tshepiso but i feel the same. it seems we are getting more divided by the day. race hatred is flaring up especially on social media. and then there is eskom, a direct cause of food prices soaring (R500 million a day for alternative energy that translates into higher costs of shelf items) and almost a million job losses in a year. our mood is low, and our anger at one another and our "leaders" are at boiling point.
There are no more middle class it is rich and poor period.
I beg to differ 😂
Welcome to South Africa 🌍
3:25 "Kaffir" is an equivalent of the "N-word".
Growing up in South Africa and going to schools here, whatever classifications people vibe alright, the racial conversation is hardly brought up, not because of it being tense, however in my experience just because it did not immediately matter.
It starts to spure up at times it is recognised, such as the lady says, organisational sorting along such lines. E.g. teacher picks inadequate whatever race student to be prefect over adequate whatever other race student in the running.
One thing about South Africa people are never shy to speak their mind and what they see.
My white grandmother has almsot exclusively dated coloured men since I can remember (she split from my grandpa when my mom was a kid) and I remember asking her what she thought of during Apartheid about all the bad things we were doing to black people (we were learning it in school at the time, like cops having dogs tear children up) and she said that she never saw that, it wasn't available on TV or radio or newspapers, and the segregation meant she never spoke to others about it. Now obviously she knows and is disgusted, but back then Mandela was portrayed as a terrorist and stuff. I think many people lived in a bubble back then.
THERE ARE NO POLICIES!!!!! It's the worst. Nothing prohibits thr abuse of human rights this side. South Africa is such a beautiful country, but unequal in every way.
Of course we have policies. The constitution for starters, there are laws protecting human rights etc. Implementation is another matter. Goodwill and peace to you.
I loved Miss Munsamy's narrative and aggree.There are no indians in Africa. U cant be indian and african. She is rightly so an African woman.
I love yall just for the understanding! ❤
The lady who said she is black is using the reference from Steve Biko about South Africans marginalised groups she’s saying she’s BLACK with the capital B refers to any group who was oppressed by the apartheid government then the lowercase black just means black people of african descent
Also, xenophobia has always been a low level undercurrent. Years ago we had a scary wave of xenophobic violence when the local blacks burned down the shops and houses of Zimbabweans and others because they "are stealing our jobs."
I'm new to the channel love the reactions to South African lives,it's funny to see my country from the outside 😂😂
How can you argue with people native to the land? Thats like me movin into your house pickin out the best room takin the biggest blanket and best snacks, your flat screen and turning around to say damn what about me after you complain when in reality youd have me removed from your home
I loved this reaction. Made me also look at things differently. New sub 😊
LOL they are lying to you. They may be born here but they know exactly where they are from in Europe. It's not like African Americans who were forced into slavery in a different continent all those years ago, with no knowlege of what country they were taken from. Their forefathers came here willingly, were free to move in and out of SA back to Europe, and they also still do the same whenever they feel like it. They can even converse in their 'Afrikaans' with Dutch speaking people -to my shock when I visited Holland for a month (I was lucky enough not to be forced to learn Afrikaans at school, partly because I went to a village mud school).
I now feel your confusion because people are coming to you with all sorts of untruths and half-truths. I am a journalist by profession and wish I could sit with you and explain the 'grey' areas, to clear your confusion.
We take everything with a grain of salt. You can join our livestreams to share.
@@TheDemouchetsREACT I will definitely try. I have followed you for a while and don’t doubt your intelligence and ability to see through BS. It’s just that SA history is so complex and history revisionists will always try.
BTW: I love you. I appreciate your love for the continent and our diverse cultures across Africa. Hope you visit soon.
@@misspzar there's definitely a whole lot of revisionism going on that is all a bunch of rubbish as they are trying to fool people into believing untruths... But...
There are also a growing number of revisionists who actually do proper research and are correcting the Eurocentric history and the white-washing of historic facts that our kids are Still being taught in our schools.
Take for instance the negative perceptions you have of Afrikaans and who you were taught to think it belongs to but then look at the point Lebo Mashile was making at 56:05 where she basically says that the Boers stole the Afrikaans language from those who created it to create a new cultural and political identity for themselves.
For over 200 years the language was created by and had its evolution with Khoikhoi and slaves at the Cape while the Boers refused to use Afrikaans except to communicate with people of mixed Khoikhoi and Slave ancestry, but they continued to use Dutch among themselves and for official business.
Then in the mid to late 1800's they started appropriating Afrikaans and claimed it as their creation.
The Boers then also in he 1800's coopted the name Afrikaner which was the name chosen by a clan of Khoikhoi (and mixed slave) rebels led by Klaas Afrikaner circa mid-1700's.
Afrikaner is still the surname of a few descendents of that Khoikhoi clan who are now classified as Coloured.
So we do need Revisionists but they need to be proper researchers with proper journalistic skills and bona fide historians who do not have a political motive whereby they dilute their findings to suite their particular narratives.
There is certainly an underlying truth there.
"Afrikaans" is to some degree a 20th century psy-op construct around what is otherwise a variant of British colonial culture (Rugby, bbq, etc) overlayed with a Dutch colonial narrative/mythology and a Dutch dialect.
Well-said 👏🏽 👏🏽👏🏽 and the English South Africans they still qualify for citizenship in England. The war in Israel is funded by those who funded our apartheid. It’s a lot to unpack but love this comment. ❤
Love you guys.❤❤
The Zulu kingdom (Monarch) has the ingonyama trust which owns 38% of Land in the province of KZN but that trust does not exclude anyone from accessing that land, the Red October movement ideology outside fighting against farm killings they are saying they want segregation or to be separated from other races, this idea led to the establishment of Orania which is basically saying no other race can come here instead of Afrikaners live here but its open to everyone
I like this one
This is one of the most engaging content you have done
Calling someone the K-word is a crime in South-Africa. Full on hate speech. Some people end up in jail for that.
We are all related in some way...Thank you guys for going back to your roots❤
Interesting history of the word Kaffir (kafr) which originally meant non -believer. It was used by Muslims in the Cape to refer to all non - muslims, then the white "masters" who themselves were technically kafirs started using it to belittle black people because they weren't Christian at that time.
Great throw back to The Big Debate dankie. On the referendum , Lebo Mashile should acknowledge the referendum that Sunette spoke on.; and Sunette can also acknowledge the resentment and embarrassment we feel for that white people had to give us that vote.
I believe Nelson Mandela is turning in his grave now the realiity we living is not what he wanted. His most famous words were..If the Anc govt do unto you what aparthe8d did then you treat the Anc the same way u treated the apartheid govt
Mandela sold our country for his own benefits and other ANC comrades
Just to help this program was played more than 15 years ago the situation is totally different now
I Agee 100% , all of us have so much more shit to worry about now 😂
Different,we can say worst now with this damn load shedding.
@@warrenamos7178 LOL I understand but loadshedding has nothing to do with racism
@@thabisoselebi323 im just saying the country worst now.
kaffir means non believer. thats what they called our ancestors when they 1st came here becouse we refused to adopt their religion .but now we've now unfortunatly been christianized to the core
Non-believer in Islam, actually
Kaffir is non believer in which South African language?
@@peterandedithawilson8642not everyone is Muslim 😅
Bonjour les Demouchets! Je m'abonne pour vous donner de la force! Bisous de Paris❤ Hi the Demouchets's! I suscribe to give you strenght! Keep doing what you are doing! Xoxo from Paris
The government is ruled by the ANC, which the majority of is black. As such the problem with inequality can not be blamed on racism. South Africa has been a democracy for almost 30 years. The ANC is using racism as an excuse for their corruption. Everyone in South Africa are experiencing the same problems, created by the government, no matter the race.
Lmao .Do you actually believe this BS you wrote here?
It wasnt your Vote to give in the first place!!! It wasnt your Land to take!!!
2:09 that’s Doja Cat’s biological father Dumisani Dlamini by the way
The job should go to the person who really wants to do the job. Who studied. But you get people who studied that just sit there, and do not want to do the job, just expecting to get the salary. Now there is a little group that is the only ones who is doing the job. I see that every day.
That's so true, that's our problem today ppl just want to sit there and be paid chunks of money for doing nothing just because they have studied
I love your hair Seierra.
This was the best open debate ever. 😅😅 I love my country. I uaf to get my kids watch this to see what's real life is in real world. Not here where they're growing up be scared to speak up
The issue is coming up with this race thing that made us believe that we are indeed different, when looking at it at a spiritual or soul level we are all just souls having a human experience. Back to the topic being discussed I just think race was meant to divide us and by also identifying ourselves as these same things that were meant to oppress us we just amplify its effect.
Hi this is old what you seeing we doing much better little by little 😊🤗🤗
doing much better? 👀 oh no speak for yourself
There is an episode of possibly my favorite TV Show in the world, And it's an American TV Show, The night Shift season 3 episode 4, and the show somewhat gave us a perspective of how a boy child or Black masculine black man/child are viewed. The entirety of the episode told us the story of what one of the cast members, JR Lemon, who played NFL experiences as a black man in America, whether in an elevator, a store, a parking lot, to name a few, the fear of how he looks, how big he looked was perfectly explained, the recent shooting of the black 16 year old too, the description the man that shot him gave the police of a teen, was way out of proportion, point is, you would be lucky not to have experienced that in the US, there is I feel no difference in the racism experienced in the US or SA, however SAs racism is on the extreme, because it is on every sphere of society and the frustrating thing is, the pure denialism that there is something wrong and that it is rampant, whereas in the US although it is based purely on observation, it isn't a rampant and that many "white" people are aware of their privilege and if an incident of racism does occur, it is usually an act, rather than the sort of secrecy and lie and or behaviour towards black people either in work spaces, universities, businesses...... the list goes on.
It is a battle of the extremes. We didn’t say we didn’t experience racism. We only shared our experience as kids living 30 years after the end of the Civil Rights movement.
Watching, crying, and tryna comment. 😢
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Debates such as those are infomation gethering for future political manipulation and exploitations.....whilst keeping racism intect
Yes she is an Indian South African!!
nowadays its more of "black on black" racism its tiring
The problem in this debate is that everyone talks as a victim and their responses are a defense like there are being attacked.
With desmond tutu's comment on how lucky they are i belive he was also rwfering to them being in the minority and still the magority is still okay with living in shacks and working for them in their beatiful homes.
This makes me angry because I know where we are coming from, can't wait for 2nd debate
Kaffer, is a derogative of black person. There was a tribe near Cape Town called like that I believe. It is equal to the N word in the US these days, though for centuries it was just another word for black people in the Dutch and Afrikaans languages, though the annotation was always derogative. In Dutch, it became a word for someone who made a stupid mistake, rather than a black person. Mostly you say about yourself, you been such a "kaffer". So these days, most are elder white people. It's not a common word anymore.
One of the reasons why the job opportunities are higher for white people in SA is probably also because they had educated parents who came from a privileged position to start with. If you'd take middle class US or EU citizens and compare those to others, you'll find similar figures. I can remember one of my fellow students, who was the first in his families history to go to college in 1990. That was 30 years ago and he was very white and in the Netherlands.
The chances that your middle class family can land you some job or get to know of such opportunity is just higher. A Bourgeois in France also will have many more opportunities. And the shitty thing is that you can't just replace people by affirmative action if they are competent enough in their field as they lack the old boys networks that can make things go smooth. It can take generations to change that.
What strikes me in this whole episode is the fact that the concept of race plays such a role in the discussion, like it does in the US. I guess some water needs to flow down the river still.
💯 Fairness and equity will remain hard to achieve when the system of the old days continue to benefit the people of the present day.
@@TheDemouchetsREACT Hmm!👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Coloureds were allowed in parliament and their community areas were better developed than black areas , there are jobs even today coloureds are better placed in position
In that beer ad the black guy flicking the bottle is doja cats dad
Sadly the host suffered a debilitating stroke about 2 years ago or so. She is recovering though.
Ouchhhhh 😢 love and light ❤
Ohhh so sad
We glad she's recovering
As a white woman who is in the service industry, a lot of what people take as racism is infact classisem, I get treated badly by rich people all the time,
I'm seen as uneducated, and less than because of my job title. Ive had black coworkers ask me to take a table off them as they say the people are treating them badly because of race, but I serve them and they treat me badly too. and vice a vers I've given tabels away for the same reason with a similar outcome. There are 2 separate issues class and race. People treat people in whats seen as lower class jobs badly across the board.
I also have to acknolage that I'm am however often perceived as more educated or well off than my black coworkers purely because I'm white, witch is in many cases incorrect I work with several university graduates who can not find work in there filed, where as I could not afford to go to varsity.
Perseptions and stereotypes is a huge problem that is not helping the situation.
The younger generations are far more integrated they have had the opitunity to grow up with people of all races from young so they have more appreciation for people being people over the older generations that still see us vs them, as the social interactions are just not as common, so much is still largely based on lumping each other into harmful stereotypes.
Indeed I have made this observation as well. It's classicism not racism. Because you can get treated badly by your own race as well.
She's definitely Indian😂
There is a resource problem because of corruption and selfishness.
28:51 "OoohKay" had me rolling 🤣 🤣
The saddest part abt apartheid is separating coloureds and African ppl, till this day coloureds have their own townships and sadly there's a lot of gang culture, lots of substance abuse it's a pandemic, dat could be the reason for highest rate of incarceration, even though you refer to them as mixed race there's a lot of coloured ppl who look pure African, some look Indian some look "coloured"/mixed, but the main distinguishing factor is that they speak a different language Afrikaans - Dutch dialect and they don't speak African languages but there's a lot who can speak African languages
Separation and the reclamation of the land is the only real solution. Anything else is just spitting in the wind.
She is descend from India by ancestors ❤
S.A. economy was destroyed over the past 30 years. Just check the ZAR/$ exchange rate over that period.
The resource problem stems partly, some may have a legit agrument for largely, that resources and debt was enherited due to our foreign colony. Having said that RSA has the potential to vacate that debt if corruption, bribery, nepotism wasnt still a issue. Note, this was an issue even in apartheid. Performing the same actions and expecting different results...?
Racism is not really a workplace policy, by the way. It's an actual crime against human rights in our constitution and is lawfully punishable.
My wife work for a company in south africa that trade internationally and there entire sales department are white only the admin clerk is black so yah